Congrats on your success. I had a couple of questions. It seems that you gained a lot of height in about two months. How much were you lengthening a day? Did it seem easier at first to lengthen bigger amounts? I want to do 4 cm if I do externals so I was thinking of doing a bit over a mm to get distraction done quicker. Do you mind sharing which doctor you had the procedure with?
What were your motivations for doing it? Were you depressed about your height, did you have an inferiority complex? Or was the goal of having the social benefits of being taller your only reason, seeing as you must have known the possible lifelong consequences of doing such a procedure beforehand? I'm not criticizing you, just looking for an honest answer.
Great decision to do LATN rather than LON. Could you walk during the lengthening process?
Good question. I think that anyone eager to do this surgery should deeply reflect on their motivations for doing it. Lack of motivation after you break your legs could lead you to not have good outcomes because you can't push yourself through the pain, physio, and immobility
In my case, nope, I wasn't depressed about my height. I was considered average height in my country at 176 cm, even in the younger generation. Though in short, if a short man becomes average via this surgery, he would have liberated himself from the discrimination of being short, be it from women or other men. For an average-height man becoming tall the same way, he brings onto himself many social benefits i.e. naturally having an aura of dominance over shorter men, making women safer to be around with. No one can deny this.
Lower physical strength to run may or may not be a long term consequence, it may get better with time depending on many factors. Either way, I didn't play much sports or went to the gym to begin with, so I don't think it's too big of a deal
I think that a lifelong consequence would be the change in the natural biomechanics of walking; the femur is naturally longer than the tibia marginally, and this procedures disrupts this balance.
So I suppose yes, I did consider these beforehand, but it's too early to speculate how long it would take to recover to a satisfactory level.
Good question. I think that anyone eager to do this surgery should deeply reflect on their motivations for doing it. Lack of motivation after you break your legs could lead you to not have good outcomes because you can't push yourself through the pain, physio, and immobility
In my case, nope, I wasn't depressed about my height. I was considered average height in my country at 176 cm, even in the younger generation. Though in short, if a short man becomes average via this surgery, he would have liberated himself from the discrimination of being short, be it from women or other men. For an average-height man becoming tall the same way, he brings onto himself many social benefits i.e. naturally having an aura of dominance over shorter men, making women safer to be around with. No one can deny this.
Lower physical strength to run may or may not be a long term consequence, it may get better with time depending on many factors. Either way, I didn't play much sports or went to the gym to begin with, so I don't think it's too big of a deal
I think that a lifelong consequence would be the change in the natural biomechanics of walking; the femur is naturally longer than the tibia marginally, and this procedures disrupts this balance.
So I suppose yes, I did consider these beforehand, but it's too early to speculate how long it would take to recover to a satisfactory level.
One user here (Sweden) lengthened less on his tibias than you did and he regrets his choice, he says he won't ever again be able to perform on the same athletic level, can't excercise without days of pain, can't really run despite 3 years of recovery. Just to put that into perspective of the risks you take. How long did you take to make the choice of having the surgery? What did you friends and family say about it?
8cm are too much on tibias and it is for sure that the mechanics of the body won't be the same as before the tibia is way too longer than it used to.
At 1.76 initial height you should have stopped at 6cm max because you would have been tall with a small impact on your sport capabilities which are now much decreased for no real reason.
That said, Sweden has big problems with bone misalignment and thats the main reason for his problems that won't be improved if he doesn't do a new surgery to fix it, not the lengthened height.
So if you are lucky and everything went fine I think that you'll live completely normal but with worse sport cababilities compared to a more sensible lengthening.
But it was your choice and I respect that.
Keep strong!
For all the guys out there: this is a really dangerous surgery. Very imprecise with a lot of minor and major complications. Do not have unrealistic goals specially if you are already tall as in more than 1.75. If your ambition is too much. Lengthen 4-6 in femur and 4- 5 in tibia. Not more. Don fk up your life for vanity.
May I know why you changed your initial goal of 5cm to 8cm?
this whole story is scary, he said he got LL from an *inexperienced* doc who allowed him
- to lengthen 2 mm per day
- to lengthen 8 cm
my only request is to keep updating this journal for up to years after so we can see if irreparable damage has indeed occured
Good question. My main plan was a generally agreed upon 'safe' plan: 5cm on tibias and 7 cm on femurs. That would put at about 188 cm, as tall as my brother. But I realised that that I would be spending a total of 1-2 years in either crutches or a wheelchair; it would just be far too long, not to mention the cost of internal femurs :-X. So I decided to push myself for that extra 3 cm and reach a respectable 184 cm and not go through such a long time of my life recovering. I was a gymnast throughout my schooling years, I'm very flexible for a guy so I was quite sure my body could take more than the average person
I do think flexibility helps tremendously.
Very true. One would have to deeply consider all the risks and potential benefits of the few cms of height before embarking on this journey
The sad truth is that the taller your initial height, the more your body can tolerate the lengthening without developing complications. So paradoxically, the shorter you are, the more you would 'need' the surgery, yet the harder it would be compared to a taller person. Sad, but that's the reality guys...
Back to temporal factors, since I generally don't have much time (I'm hustling for online jobs currently) I won't be posting much of a diary.As you are currently looking for online jobs, I am guessing you quit your job in order to do this surgery?
Yunggud you know many people that did 10cm in tibias and are not got crippled?
And with an initial height of 1.76 8cm lengthening was an unnecessary risk but fortunately everything went well.
Sibirsky you should have better stayed at 6-6.5 cm to have more proportionate tibias and most of all to not change so much the biomechanics of your feet, as you already had a good initial height and you didn't need so much lengthening but congratulations for your smooth LL trip.
Keep strong!
He did a ridiculous amount at 8 cm yet you ask why he didn't push beyond that....sorry ,i haven't noticed that it was on his tibias,my bad
sorry ,i haven't noticed that it was on his tibias,my badΕven for femurs 10cm is way too much.
Εven for femurs 10cm is way too much.I think for my starting height 8 cm on femurs will be affordable and within safe zone ,If he did 8 cm on tibias with almost same height as me
I think for my starting height 8 cm on femurs will be affordable and within safe zone ,If he did 8 cm on tibias with almost same height as meEvery body adapts different to lengthening. And 8cm in tibias is really too much, only 4 months after surgery is too soon to know the final outcome of the surgery.
Do you feel tall enough at your present height?
Do you planning any additional operation in a nearest future ?
Pic at 184 cm:From my sight,you look proportional
https://imgur.com/a/QW4eW
I think I look proportional from this angle, but I'm not sure. My shorts end right in between my femurs and tibias on the knees
How do you feel right now compared to your pre-op conditions?
I feel great actually. I no longer get Morning stiffness on my ankles at all. My ankle muscles are about the same size as they were pre op but quads need a lot of workThat's great!congratulations
Sibirsky have you got any xrays?
Sibirsky,
I have read it, thanks for your answers!
good consolidation for tibias but yeah quite unusual for the nail to stick out. I guess it makes no difference as long as you dont hit that sticking out part. Did you get any recent xray to see progressing consolidation ?
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The doc knew his stuff. You had the hexapod frame , the same used by Dr daghoon Lee.
Hey, I was just wondering how long did it take you to walk on crutches after nailing? I heard it hurts a lot that you technically can be using them but they might cause damage until a certain time has passed. What was your experience with nailing like?
hey
thanks for your sharing of your experience, its helpful.
about LATN vs LON:
you wrote ... "Discussed about benefits of LON( cheaper, 1 major surgery + 1 minor frame removal surgery, no corrections possible at all) vs LATN (more expensive, 2 major surgeries, correction can be done before nailing) Eventually I settled for LATN and the surgery was scheduled a week later.
From what ive read, I couldnt find an explanation for the LATN being superior (and hence why is it more expensive). Ive read (correct me if im wrong) that LON allows your consolidation time to be shorter. add this to making it a "1 major surgery" vs. 2 (LATN) , im trying to find the reason to choose LATN.
if its the corrections before nailing thing, well could u elaborate on that? what and how the surgeon correct exactly? how often is correcting needed? did u have any corrections before nailing?
Thanks!
and another thing, about the scars. do they bother you?
I suppose theyre not going away, but to what extent they will be fading out?
From what ive read, I couldnt find an explanation for the LATN being superior (and hence why is it more expensive).
你好，我27岁，164CM。我想做断骨增高。想咨询以下一些问题，麻烦你帮帮我。另外，我164CM想长到175CM就可以了。虽然不能保证，但是我有点担心你们的钉锤打下去，会不会把骨头打成裂纹，然后骨头就竖着的方向裂开，我很害怕。听说还有骨头连不起来的问题，很担心。我27岁了，你觉得还有可能长高的空间吗?哈哈怎么可能啊，你的骨头没你想象得那么脆弱，不过这是髓内针一代，二代就不是这样打下去植入的了。骨不连是有可能但是好的医生会很好地避免骨不连。还有27岁不可能长了，这哪怕是70 80年代都不能。175完全可以，就是必须大小腿，光小腿或者大腿是找死。
1、手术是在哪个国家或者城市做靠谱？
2、手术费用是多少呢？包括后期调理的补品一共需要多少钱？
3、真的有残疾或者死亡的风险吗？我担心的是骨头连不上的问题等，想咨询一下您，希望你能帮帮我。谢谢你！