Limb Lengthening Forum
Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Doctors => Topic started by: Muse on October 02, 2013, 03:37:05 PM
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Here are the response from Dr Salameh regarding the Limb Lengthening surgery.
Note: Dr Salameh currently does the surgery in Germany with Dr. M. Schmidt, due to the ongoing civil war in Syria.
1) How many patients have you operated for cosmetic Limb Lengthening so far and How many patients do you operate yearly?
About 100 cases about 15 per year.
2) What is the estimated total cost, including post-op treatments, stay, medications, physiotherapy? Are unscheduled surgeries covered and How much does a consultation cost?
25 000 Euro for Germany
3) What kind of physical therapy is assigned to the patient?
just exercises .
4) What maximum amount of lengthening do you recommend per segment, regarding patient safety? What is the daily rate of lengthening?
8 cm , 0.8 mm per day
5) What are your opinions regarding the weightbearing of the patients?
With my patients and fixator is very essential , early weight bearing and without aid many times
6) How often will you follow up with patients during lengthening?
Every three weeks during lengthening phase and monthly after.
7) How fast can patients return to normal life (walking without support)? What is the time required to lengthen 5 cm and 7.5-8 cm ?
After lengthening period for 5 cm about two months and about 4 months for 8 cm.
Prof Ghassan Salameh
Salamehfix Centre for Limb lengthening & reconstruction
Tel: +963 11 6618956
Fax: +963 11 6668188
Mobile: +963 944 363156
E-mail: ghassanorth@yahoo.com
Web site; www. lengthening-sldf.com
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Good write up.
I was considering him for Tibias.
Does he do internal femurs ? Does he do it for that price??? ;D
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Good write up.
I was considering him for Tibias.
Does he do internal femurs ? Does he do it for that price??? ;D
He only uses his own external device for lengthening. It is a half-ring and seems to work pretty well.
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Hi,
I am 5' 9' 1/2, aged 32 and been considering leg lengthening surgery for a while now. I would consider having it done within two years. I have been visiting the forums and the websites from many countries which offer the procedure. I live in the UK. If I was considering 6 '1/ 6 '2 as a height, I assume this would take on average about 6 months?
Is physical therapy offered every day as it is an important aspect to the recovery process?
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Dr, Salameh is a good Dr not very expesive , why do people go to Xia while they can go to germany ? Dr salameh is using his own divice ful you bearing and you can walk after 6h from the surgery + not big externel I am considering him for tibia
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You will have to wear the frames for a full year or even more.
But the big plus is that you don't need to split your patellar tendon - twice, and therefore ruin your knees permanently :-\
I was on my way to Syria to do 6cm. Then the war broke out.....
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Sweden, I can't help it but to feel that ur intention is to discourage people from doing LL. Why?
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Sweden, I can't help it but to feel that ur intention is to discourage people from doing LL. Why?
Well it's not.
It is just called the cold bitter ugly truth.
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Sweden's motto: den kalla bittra fula sanningen. (courtesy of google translate)
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why does dr alemhs method require one to ear the frames a whole year?????? Id consider him, but not if i have to be in frames a year!
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id love to see his fixator. if it can really be hidden under jeans,that is a big plus
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fantastic!!!!!!! now that is what im looking for
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Would anyone happen to know if it still an option to do the surgery in Syria for under $20,000 USD? I'd sure rather do LL in Syria, with Dr. Salameh, than in India, with Dr. Sringari. From what I hear, there are lots of parts of Syria that are relatively unaffected by the recent instability, but the media often chooses to portray a skewed perception of the entire country.
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Here are some photos Dr. Salameh sent me of the fixators being worn under someone's baggy athletic pants. I've blurred faces so the guy lengthening in these photos won't get upset with me! :P He ultimately ended up lengthening 7.5 cm on his tibiae.
BD,
the patient in these pictures, is he in consolidation or distraction phase of his LL?
this makes a diff because the salmefix is reduced by removing some rods and disc once you complete distraction.
Thanks for the pictures
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wow...the guy on picture 3 looks so disproportionate.
//edit: at a second glace on pic 1... wtf.. the femur - tibia ratio is disastrous. looks like a freak, sry
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looks fine to me
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I thought his proportions looked weird as well. Maybe he lengthened a little too much. Does anyone know his height stats before and after?
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Dr. Salameh is an excellent surgeon, but I would only consider him if I lived in Syria or Germany. With the Salamehfix the device remains on your legs for quite a while. I'd rather not spend so many months in a foreign country. Alternatively, perhaps one could be let to travel home with the fixators on, but they need constant care to avoid pinsite infection, and I'd rather not be far away from my doctor after the surgery until the end of consolidation, in case anything goes wrong.
I would do LON/LATN elsewhere instead.
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wow...the guy on picture 3 looks so disproportionate.
//edit: at a second glace on pic 1... wtf.. the femur - tibia ratio is disastrous. looks like a freak, sry
I agree. He also looks like he's hiding something in his baggy pants. I'm surprised if he wasn't asked to be checked leaving a department store.
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can go home with fixators on. id rather have that small evice on than have nails in my knee. you guys are worried about the wrong things... its better to have a little bulge at the bottom of the pants than nails drilled in the knees
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can go home with fixators on. id rather have that small evice on than have nails in my knee. you guys are worried about the wrong things... its better to have a little bulge at the bottom of the pants than nails drilled in the knees
I'm also more worried about the effects of nails inserted on my knee (which I assume happens with any form of internal/LATN/LON surgery) and that means externals only is the only way to skip it. I'm surprised this was not common knowledge.
On the other hand, I'm not sure how to hide the frames from family when I return home after lengthening period. Plus 10-12 months is a long time, I'm planning 7 to 8cm.
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It's a shame syria got war ...
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On the other hand, I'm not sure how to hide the frames from family when I return home after lengthening period. Plus 10-12 months is a long time, I'm planning 7 to 8cm.
I have the exact same problem. I don't have to hide it from family, but from all other people.
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Maybe I will choose Dr Salameh for external. I don't care his Germany price is higher. I would never ever go to Syria even for one million dollars to step foot there. I just saw a video of some terrorist group or something in Syria made a guy convert to Islam right before they took a saber and sawed his head off alive. It's on internet right now.
This video where Syrian terrorists kill a non Muslim guy is making way all over internet.
http://www.barenkedislam.com/2014/03/04/syria-christian-man-forced-to-convert-to-islam-then-gets-beheaded-anyway-warning-graphic-imnages/
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Maybe I will choose Dr Salameh for external. I don't care his Germany price is higher. I would never ever go to Syria even for one million dollars to step foot there. I just saw a video of some terrorist group or something in Syria made a guy convert to Islam right before they took a saber and sawed his head off alive. It's on internet right now.
This video where Syrian terrorists kill a non Muslim guy is making way all over internet.
http://www.barenkedislam.com/2014/03/04/syria-christian-man-forced-to-convert-to-islam-then-gets-beheaded-anyway-warning-graphic-imnages/
Holly fking , Thisis not islam those are some crasy sones of bitcheches who practice what they want in the name of islam,and you people should stop talking about islam if you know non about it, Dr salamah is muslim and you peobebly sould not go to him causehe will rip your head off cause all muslim are like that
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Glad to see the "freedom fighters" that the U.S. regime supports are doing their job.
Then again every "war" the U.S. has been involved with post-WWII has been roughly the same. Everyone in the world knows it except the blinded people under the tent who are wondering why everyone else hates their government. Some peeps need to read Nineteen Eighty-Four to see the Orwellian parallels, especially in political dialogue such as masking horrors or tragedies with media manipulation or words like "freedom", "patriotism", etc. It was a mandatory novel when I was growing up.
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Wouldn't worry about having the fixators on. If you went home and you told someone what they were for chances are, they wouldn't believe you anyway.
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I thought his proportions looked weird as well. Maybe he lengthened a little too much. Does anyone know his height stats before and after?
The guy does have some long-ass legs, but i think the average person won't think that much of it. They'll probably just think "wow, that guy has long legs."
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Who are you talking about?
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The guy doing the squats on the first page.
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I honestly might do Dr. Salameh rather than Dr. Guichet. Salameh seems like a competent surgeon for a much, much lower price!
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Lower price is in russia
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I know, but Russian doctors don't allow early weight-bearing, strength training, or such a fast recovery. Plus, I've always wanted to see Germany; I was a huge WWII buff from ages 5-10.
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I know, but Russian doctors don't allow early weight-bearing, strength training, or such a fast recovery. Plus, I've always wanted to see Germany; I was a huge WWII buff from ages 5-10.
yeah I personally would like to visit germany as a tall one
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What do you mean "as a tall one"?
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I have made up my mind to do surgery with Salameh.
its a no brainer to me when I put everything together. An affordable price with a Doctor who knows what he is doing and has a lot of experience and NO DRILLING into my knees twice to insert and remove nails.
Another plus is that I get to do the surgery in a first world country.
That's it, im having my surgery by the end of this year.
Is any1 planning to do the surgery with him in the next few months?
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I have made up my mind to do surgery with Salameh.
its a no brainer to me when I put everything together. An affordable price with a Doctor who knows what he is doing and has a lot of experience and NO DRILLING into my knees twice to insert and remove nails.
Another plus is that I get to do the surgery in a first world country.
That's it, im having my surgery by the end of this year.
Is any1 planning to do the surgery with him in the next few months?
But you gotta stay there until your bones consolidate or you go back home with the frames.
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What do you mean "as a tall one"?
when I'll become tall
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$25,000 and thats not including accommodation, food and everything else in between. Russia with Dr Solomin will cost you $4,000 euros which also includes 3 weeks stay :o
Thats a big difference and a hell of a savings imo
Do you intend to stay there until frame removal or do you plan on going home after distraction and consolidate at home?
Good luck though and all the best, good doctor, not so sure about affordability anymore though
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$25,000 and thats not including accommodation, food and everything else in between. Russia with Dr Solomin will cost you $4,000 euros which also includes 3 weeks stay :o
Thats a big difference and a hell of a savings imo
Do you intend to stay there until frame removal or do you plan on going home after distraction and consolidate at home?
Good luck though and all the best, good doctor, not so sure about affordability anymore though
Well that's only the case if you can have things done in a month (aka consultation + surgery + hospitalization)... Tourist visa only lasts 30 days and Russian visa is so complicated to get...
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I would not go to Syria.
when you are doing LL you lose the ability to escape bad situations fast.
Holly f**king s**t , Thisis not islam those are some crasy sones of bitcheches who practice what they want in the name of islam,and you people should stop talking about islam if you know non about it, Dr salamah is muslim and you peobebly sould not go to him causehe will rip your head off cause all muslim are like that
that is correct, it is (patsy) Islamic low level pawns who are controlled by luciferians pretending to be Islamic extremists, who are controlled and funded by the CIA, who are part of the federal army occupying the already invaded nation of the united states of America, who has been captured by international bankers who in tandem operate with a corporate oligopoly.
in short. America is captured at the federal level, and its resources serve international bankers, and those resources include the proxy army called isis which is really al-Qaida.
nope I would never commit myself to a 8 month stay in Syria. anything could happen. but you are right, never drill into the knees with LON/LATN for tibia. it not worth a 25% chance of chronic knee pain.
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I agree 100%, but he is doing the surgery in Germany.
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Well that's only the case if you can have things done in a month (aka consultation + surgery + hospitalization)... Tourist visa only lasts 30 days and Russian visa is so complicated to get...
It is... Hence why Im not going to Russia sadly, god damn their visas are so complicated to get.
Its ridiculous and agreed 30 days is simply not enough time to do anything what so ever. Those who can get the 6 month visa are lucky
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I know, but Russian doctors don't allow early weight-bearing, strength training, or such a fast recovery. Plus, I've always wanted to see Germany; I was a huge WWII buff from ages 5-10.
Same here. If my consultation goes well here then I'm gonna do ll with Salameh. Don't care if I have to wear the frames for almost 1 year. Would do it just to not feel more pain and be able to walk for 4 months.
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This sounds really good. I'm going to seriously consider him after reading a few diaries.
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You will have to wear the frames for a full year or even more.
But the big plus is that you don't need to split your patellar tendon - twice, and therefore ruin your knees permanently :-\
I was on my way to Syria to do 6cm. Then the war broke out.....
I can live with that. You'd hardly notice the frames, anyways.
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I know, but Russian doctors don't allow early weight-bearing, strength training, or such a fast recovery. Plus, I've always wanted to see Germany; I was a huge WWII buff from ages 5-10.
Okay I lived in Germany you will not make many friends if you go there and talk about WWII just a heads up. You will piss off any annoy people, however Germany is a great place to live and like you say weight lifting is very important to keep your muscles active. I have muscular legs if muscles atrophy you always look very fat as the muscle just ew goes everywhere nasty.
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I can live with that. You'd hardly notice the frames, anyways.
Yeaaaaaaaah, that's utter bullcrap. You will notice the frames and you won't be able to live with them. The pins will tear you skin apart and you will get infections. Then you will notice.
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Well, but you wear the frames during 9 months more or less. And around 5 moths the frames are smaller
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I would rather be able to walk w/o support within 2 months and wait 9 months to take the frames off then do Lon and wait 6 months to walk w/o support with the nails inside my shin bones. It's a small price to pay in my mind.
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Okay I lived in Germany you will not make many friends if you go there and talk about WWII just a heads up. You will piss off any annoy people, however Germany is a great place to live and like you say weight lifting is very important to keep your muscles active. I have muscular legs if muscles atrophy you always look very fat as the muscle just ew goes everywhere nasty.
I meant touring battlefields and stuff lol
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I mostly mean that they aren't as clunky as classic Illizarov frames. Obviously you'll feel them, but they won't look nearly as freaky.
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2) What is the estimated total cost, including post-op treatments, stay, medications, physiotherapy? Are unscheduled surgeries covered and How much does a consultation cost?
25 000 Euro for Germany
Dr. Salameh tells me that the cost for LON femur is 30,000 Euros. ???
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2) What is the estimated total cost, including post-op treatments, stay, medications, physiotherapy? Are unscheduled surgeries covered and How much does a consultation cost?
25 000 Euro for Germany
Dr. Salameh tells me that the cost for LON femur is 30,000 Euros. ???
Hi
Are this prices meant for each leg or both legs? Is 25,000 the cost for both legs?
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Yes, that's for both.
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Thank you
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i am considering him in Germany. Has anybody done the surgery with him yet? I am interested to see how they are doing and their experience with him was like!
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Hello Jaymorgan,
I have done surgery with him (9-10cm on tibias) and I'm now in the consolidation phase:
You can find my diary on Make me taller forum
Dr. Salameh and Dr. Schmidt are very experienced surgeons, Salamehfix is good and small device.
Greetings Morpheus
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Hello Jaymorgan,
I have done surgery with him (9-10cm on tibias) and I'm now in the consolidation phase:
You can find my diary on Make me taller forum
Dr. Salameh and Dr. Schmidt are very experienced surgeons, Salamehfix is good and small device.
Greetings Morpheus
What is the world record for cms done on the tibias?
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Some guy did about 12-13 cm with Dr. Salameh on his tibias.
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Dr. Salameh told me, there was one guy in Syria, who did two times 8 cm on tibias (after a break between) in fact 16 cm in total. He lived 3 years in fixator. I have seen pictures of that guy, he had quite bulky legs. He went from 160cm to 176 cm height.
And there was a girl on the old forum (Sam), she did even more (but she had achondroplasia)
Greetings Morpheus
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Geese, 16 cm on the tibias? How the hell?
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Hello Read Rothbard
Yeah, 16 cm, but two times. I think this guy was an exception like some people in sports: there are people, who can do things that 99.9% can't do, for example run 100m in under 10 s.
Greetings Morpheus
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Hello Read Rothbard
Yeah, 16 cm, but two times. I think this guy was an exception like some people in sports: there are people, who can do things that 99.9% can't do, for example run 100m in under 10 s.
Greetings Morpheus
like a jackpot, u ever hit it or waste all your money trying to do that
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I saw the picture on his website. Looked very disproportianate.
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I have a friend who want to do this surgery with Dr. Salameh cause he cannot afford other doctors like Paley. Germany is to expsnive for him to but he is wondering if Dr. Salameh will perform for reduced price in Syria? If so then my friend will go to Syria for leg lengthening and then he can post his exprience here. Does anyone no if Dr. Salameh still does Syria surgeries?
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Sure, and ISIS will escort you out of the hospital and provide the aftercare free of charge. How's that for a discount!
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I have a friend who want to do this surgery with Dr. Salameh cause he cannot afford other doctors like Paley. Germany is to expsnive for him to but he is wondering if Dr. Salameh will perform for reduced price in Syria? If so then my friend will go to Syria for leg lengthening and then he can post his exprience here. Does anyone no if Dr. Salameh still does Syria surgeries?
oh my god, how people could say things like this? your friend is a retarded are you too for asking that , do your friend want to die?
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Sure, and ISIS will escort you out of the hospital and provide the aftercare free of charge. How's that for a discount!
Silly to think ISIS will target random hospital of Dr. Salameh to grab a random Indian guy.
oh my god, how people could say things like this? your friend is a retarded are you too for asking that , do your friend want to die?
What would make him die? I think you are watching to much media to believe if you go to Syria you are automatically dead.
My question still remains. Will Dr. Salameh do surgery there for the lower cost?
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Didn't Salameh flee Syria because of the civil war?
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Didn't Salameh flee Syria because of the civil war?
Yes
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Yes
So scary the situation in some LL countries because of war!
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A year with frames still feels like a very long time...
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The interview style info can be confusing going from doctor to doctor. Some answers are incomplete it seems.
Can anyone chart the cost/duration in a clear and concise arrangement?
i.e.
Process:
1. Consultation: $500 USD
2. Operation: $35,000 USD
- Included: X-rays (10), 1 Week Hospital Stay, etc.
- Complications: Additional Cost
3. Accomodation: $1000 USD / Month
4. Physical Therapy: $1000 USD / Month
5. Duration (Est):
- Tibia
- 1 cm = 1 month
- 6 months average time for most patients
- Femur
- 1 cm = 1 month
- 4 months average time for most patients
6. Cost(s) not included: plane ticket, meals, transportation, medication, etc.
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If you'd like to volunteer, that would be great.
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I am learning german onces i get my b1 i'll to study there and to get tall as well and go back home a holle new one
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Why do almost all his patients develop bad ballerina feet. His equipment too bent down to the feet?
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So are there diaries of LL with this doc in this forum? I am wondering 7 - 8 cm on tibias. 173 cm at the moment. He has his own patented prdoduct ''salamehfix1''. And it says on his website ''Possibility of walking without aid and full weight bearing after surgery.''
So how long time after the surgery is it possible to return to the work with the fixators hidden under the pants?
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Hi Aistro10 - best diaries are on the old forum. RTW date depends on what you do. He showed me some vids of patients who could do a lot in the frames - takes time though! You can hide them - wear Oxford bags trousers, or flares/bell-bottom jeans, etc. Hippie fashion. I'll let you know - I'm gearing up for surgery this Oct. Go & meet him & Dr Schmidt. They are seem nice, genuine.
8cms seems a lot - especially if you are already 173cms, which isn't that short... 6cms or less is safer, according to LL Vets here from what I have read...
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Dr. Salameh is a fine Doctor. Yes 7-8cm is possible
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It's 25k$ per segment, right? So I'm assuming it's 50k$ for tibias+femur... am I wrong? Is it 25k$ if you're doing both at the same time?
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It's 25k$ per segment, right? So I'm assuming it's 50k$ for tibias+femur... am I wrong? Is it 25k$ if you're doing both at the same time?
It's 25k euro for tibias only,I don't know about femurs but as people always said:external femur is not a smart choice
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It's 25k euro for tibias only,I don't know about femurs but as people always said:external femur is not a smart choice
Thank you!
Could you please tell me what's the safest way to do tibias+femur?
Cheers.
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Thank you!
Could you please tell me what's the safest way to do tibias+femur?
Cheers.
Just avoid external femurs due their painful nature.
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How was he able to do 16 cm just in tibia if most people at 5 cm are over?
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I read somewhere he can do femur LON for 30k EUR. I know it might be painful and so on - but my question is, what can be the limit for such operation, how many cm?
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If you would bear the pain i personally wouldn't go past 6cm.
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There was once a civil war in my country, while all the western news were blowing out showing how dangerous it is in my country, it wasn't at all, unless you are really a foreigner. I will contact dr. Salameh before going, I will ask him whether it is safe. The soonest I can, I will fly to Germany or see my family in Turkey. I'll do my best to lower my risks but i just also know how media works and how things on the ground are much more different.
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Hey guys!
Have found this doctor.
http://www.lengthening-sldf.com/index.php?act=open&programid=16
What do you think?
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In what city in Germany does the surgery take place?
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Hey guys!
Have found this doctor.
http://www.lengthening-sldf.com/index.php?act=open&programid=16
What do you think?
Dr Salameh is well known on this forum and has some diaries. I had a consultation with him this year in Frankfurt. He is very good.
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How much is CLL with him?
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How much is CLL with him?
Around 25k Euros for tibia lengthening.
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do you do this operation with him?
I called dr schmidt and will do it in 2020. It would be nice to hear you experience
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do you do this operation with him?
I called dr schmidt and will do it in 2020. It would be nice to hear you experience
HI, hope u r in Germany and have started ur journey, if yes pls how can i follow your dairy?
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Thanks for sharing..............
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Is there any news about the price for the surgery (year 2021)?
Is he still offering it?
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what is the general consensus on this doctor? good?
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What is the price for tibia lengthening in 2021?
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I have contacted Dr. Salameh through emails. The price is still 25k Euros excluding accomdation. He also said he has updated his salamehfix device, no need to wear it for 1+ year anymore
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Any idea how long you would have to wear the fixators for after lengthening?
This doctor seems to know what he is doing. Anyone heard anything negative about him?
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anyone done LL with salameh recently? I've read he updated his device so you only need to wear it for much less time than before. would love to hear more about him, seems like a good doctor but not much diaries here, and one diary was very concerning because the patient took a couple years to complete the consolidation process.
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Anyone done with this doctor? I'm travelling to Austria to live so he seems really good
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I spoke with Dr Salameh about his device it seems good but you have to wear the device for more than 10 months ( the whole consolidation phase) which I found to be too long.
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More than 10 months? So how long exactley are you in this stuff?