Limb Lengthening Forum
Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Patients Experiences => Topic started by: tallmf on June 15, 2019, 07:16:04 AM
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Hey, guys, I have run into some trouble.
I have very very delayed union (almost none union). I'm thinking of undoing/reversing the surgery
I removed my frame on the 23rd of March. It is almost 3 months, still, my callus is not forming. Please see the attached link.
https://imgur.com/undefined
my left leg, there is a bone bridge however it was there even before the removal of the frame.
does anyone here or does anybody know anyone who did the reversal? what are the risk and complications?
What about bone grafting to stimulate growth, is it worth it? I do not want to be bedridden or in wheelchair long time. also, my family do not know about this surgery, so I have to be in my country by the end of this year.
I have made my mind. all I want is get up and walk, I wouldn't worry about the money, efforts spent during the last 6 months. So I would rather undo the surgery completely, please drop your advice.
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https://imgur.com/a/UAkYcEK
xray link
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Consult another doctor. Hopefully there are solutions not requiring shortening.
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yea my doctor doesn't want me to shorten, it's my decision. he says bone will come
I don't want to be cripple for years and tall
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I understand, but there may be other solutions like grafting. Please consult another doctor before doing anything hasty. Don't decide by yourself.
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Ask other doctors for an advice first.
Write them an email with your latest X-ray, explain your path so far. You will get responses like the other user here whose bones were misaligned after surgery. He also wrote to other doctors. And now he has a few more options.
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yes my doctor gave an option, they are willing to perform bone grafting, they will take the bone from my hip.
however, I don't know how long it will take to unite.
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hi ،how old r u ,how much u lengthend and Who is ur doctor?
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I'm sorry to hear ... about your problems.... can you kindly tell us ...who did your surgery and where was it done ... also have you spoken to your doctor about this and what did he say?
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Jesus man, I am actually heartbroken. I try to tell people that the recovery for this surgery is painstakingly difficult. I know how you're feeling, but I can't see a reversal being anything but a bad decision.
I would immediately get onto doing electro-therapy and really start walking and hitting the pavement. I don't know what you've been doing to recover, but try everything. Get an Exogen 4000+ and on whatever painkillers you can to get walking. Bone growth and recovery doesn't happen unless you have inflammation. You only get inflammation from walking and exercising. Get the fck up and start moving.
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You already have some consolidation in fibula, shortening at this stage could be very painful, complicated, and it is unnecessary in your case. Try stem cell grafting first. It is shown to work with 5 cm gap. You also need to walk everyday. Your lack of consolidation is likely due to diet and not walking enough.
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it will consolidate. give it time
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Jesus man, I am actually heartbroken. I try to tell people that the recovery for this surgery is painstakingly difficult. I know how you're feeling, but I can't see a reversal being anything but a bad decision.
I would immediately get onto doing electro-therapy and really start walking and hitting the pavement. I don't know what you've been doing to recover, but try everything. Get an Exogen 4000+ and on whatever painkillers you can to get walking. Bone growth and recovery doesn't happen unless you have inflammation. You only get inflammation from walking and exercising. Get the fk up and start moving.
https://hyperbaricoxygentherapy.co.uk/applications/sports/bone-growth-fractures/
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dont doctors tell their patients to stop lengthening if no callus has formed, and continue lengthening after some callus has formed?
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https://hyperbaricoxygentherapy.co.uk/applications/sports/bone-growth-fractures/
I don't get why you're quoting me... I don't have any interest in a hyperbaric chamber.
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Tallmf,
How old are you?
Who is your doctor?
What method is it?
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I don't get why you're quoting me... I don't have any interest in a hyperbaric chamber.
I was quoting in reference to your .. message.. that oxygen does help in certain cases of nonunion
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I’m sorry to hear this man.
I definitely advise emailing/calling several other doctors.
May I ask what nationality and age you are, please?
I wish you the best. Stay strong.
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I’m sorry to hear this man.
I definitely advise emailing/calling several other doctors.
May I ask what nationality and age you are, please?
I wish you the best. Stay strong.
You can see his previous posts
Sarin he chose
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=9672.msg100940#msg100940
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Thanks for the link. I’ve read through it but think I can’t seem to find the nationality.
It’s okay.. if anyone knows tho just drop it here if you don’t mind.
Cheers
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Thanks for the link. I’ve read through it but think I can’t seem to find the nationality.
It’s okay.. if anyone knows tho just drop it here if you don’t mind.
Cheers
Would the nationality.... really make a difference to you?
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Would the nationality.... really make a difference to you?
Sorry, I meant Ethnicity.
That would do because I’ve read things like East Asian and maybe South Asians are more prone to these sort of complications. I’m Indian so just wanted to know. Again sorry not nationality, but ethnicity.
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Really.... so Indian people are more prone to complications?
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Really.... so Indian people are more prone to complications?
Maybe this particular one. I don’t know anything about any other complications.
Indian people may be quite similar to East Asian people. So yeah just doing my research as we do
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yes my doctor gave an option, they are willing to perform bone grafting, they will take the bone from my hip.
however, I don't know how long it will take to unite.
Get away from Dr. Sarin if you dont want to be crippled or potentially die.
dude is a butcher of a surgeon. I have warned many people on this site before yet they dont listen. They let height dysphoria cloud their judgement and do 0 research. Im pretty sure thats what you did: 0 research. Not trying to sound harsh, but this is your life and your damn legs. You should of tried to save up for the best surgeon possible in India: Dr. Mangal Parihar instead of jeapordizing your health by going to a butcher.
Get away from Dr. Sarin as soon as possible and treat your complications with Dr. Parihar. Its not too late yet.
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Get away from Dr. Sarin if you dont want to be crippled or potentially die.
dude is a butcher of a surgeon. I have warned many people on this site before yet they dont listen. They let height dysphoria cloud their judgement and do 0 research. Im pretty sure thats what you did: 0 research. Not trying to sound harsh, but this is your life and your damn legs. You should of tried to save up for the best surgeon possible in India: Dr. Mangal Parihar instead of jeapordizing your health by going to a butcher.
Get away from Dr. Sarin as soon as possible and treat your complications with Dr. Parihar. Its not too late yet.
Completely agree friend, why don’t you check the facts first. You should have gone through the previous post at least. Never too late change your doctor before landing up to any other complication .
Why did you choose Dr sarin on first place. Now no one want to go there. People should know about him.
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Get away from Dr. Sarin if you dont want to be crippled or potentially die.
dude is a butcher of a surgeon. I have warned many people on this site before yet they dont listen. They let height dysphoria cloud their judgement and do 0 research. Im pretty sure thats what you did: 0 research. Not trying to sound harsh, but this is your life and your damn legs. You should of tried to save up for the best surgeon possible in India: Dr. Mangal Parihar instead of jeapordizing your health by going to a butcher.
Get away from Dr. Sarin as soon as possible and treat your complications with Dr. Parihar. Its not too late yet.
It's funny because actually, Sarin has more successful cases on this forum than Pairhar or Giotikas. It looks like you did 0 research.
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It's funny because actually, Sarin has more successful cases on this forum than Pairhar or Giotikas. It looks like you did 0 research.
But are they genuine... ?
Panda 8)
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But are they genuine... ?
Panda 8)
I don't have any reason to not believe them. Do you have?
I'm more suspicious about Jolien diary with Giotikas.
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I don't have any reason to not believe them. Do you have?
I'm more suspicious about Jolien diary with Giotikas.
you have 13 posts and literally every one of them you are promoting Dr. Sarin after so many butchered cases. lol.
I've been here long enough to know who and what is real and who and what is fake.
You are suspicious about Jolien's diary with Giotikas when she literally has videos of her walking with external fixator and with the nail in post lengthening?
lmfao
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you have 13 posts and literally every one of them you are promoting Dr. Sarin after so many butchered cases. lol.
I've been here long enough to know who and what is real and who and what is fake.
You are suspicious about Jolien's diary with Giotikas when she literally has videos of her walking with external fixator and with the nail in post lengthening?
lmfao
Sarin has a lot more cases, than Giotikas, however a lot of complications as well (by complication I mean even delayed healing, or slower, than expected consolidation). I think Sarin wouldn't be a safe decision either, however Giotikas has also few successful cases, maybe zakika is one of his patients, who consolidated really well. I would be curious how he is doing now..The other too doesn't seem to me to heal well (of course besides genetics), plus this fraud looking girl seems to undermine his reputation deeply.
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Sarin has a lot more cases, than Giotikas, however a lot of complications as well (by complication I mean even delayed healing, or slower, than expected consolidation). I think Sarin wouldn't be a safe decision either, however Giotikas has also few successful cases, maybe zakika is one of his patients, who consolidated really well. I would be curious how he is doing now..The other too doesn't seem to me to heal well (of course besides genetics), plus this fraud looking girl seems to undermine his reputation deeply.
why fraud?
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Yeah she now wants to get paid for her google doc but that has nothing to do with Giotikas. She probably just wants to make some $ back that she spent on the surgery itself. She had the google doc up for many months and you coulda saved it. I think the videos and pictures are still up tho
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I'm not saying Giotikas is comparable to someone like Rozbruch or paley or even mahboubian
but his pts so far have healed up very well and he has very good credentials (MD and pHD in trauma surgery/leg deformity correction)
Dr. Sarin has had many many pt complications. Some have never fully healed. If you look at some of his pt x rays you will realize the bones are not aligned correctly. This is what usually results in delayed consolidation and even non union.
not to mention, some pts have had nerve damage as well from the surgery
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You got me wrong, I'm not protecting any of those doctors, and I wouldn't opt for anybody from India except Parihar, but Giotikas is not set in my eyes at all. I only saw 1 patient, who consolidated well, it is zakika, there is another guy from Germany, his consolidation wasn't quite strong as well (even if the guy thought he had pseudomembranous colitis, what nobody looked after while he was still in Greece).
I wrote fraud (you can call somebody like that Sharlatan as well, as others already did), because that person started an advertisement based solely on her own physiotherapy, without being a certified person (3-4 years of medical school, come on..), and we are not talking about healing, only flexibiity, soft tissue excercises. Separate the two things from eachother. This girl started to spread the holy word by having a quite slow consolidation so far (flexibility is another thing). But even her consolidation would have been better, she didn't have the strong evidence based - and supported with a bigger number of cases - how to heal from an extensive surgery like this. It is, why it is called fraud, if she hadn't been asking for her advises money, she only would be an overly confident, dumb girl (enough to look at the advertisement, she put online), who thought she is clever probably by later making money out of her story, by supporting her credibility with her real person. Things changed with the ultimate wrong step to go into finances (no matter why she needed the money).
And I'm still curious about zakika's current stage, because I think he has the highest chance of healing the fastest of his 3 patients.
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here is another guy from Germany, his consolidation wasn't quite strong as well (even if the guy thought he had pseudomembranous colitis, what nobody looked after while he was still in Greece).
I'm 8 months in. On average I'm pretty sure, that's still normal speed. I just had unrealistic expectations beforehand. And that's where I would critize Dr. Giotikas as he let it appear that it usually takes less than that before the surgery. Dr. Pili for example made it clear that frame removal takes 7-11 months. So I'm still in the normal range. After every X-ray I naively thought that it might only take 2-3 months more and psychologically that was a lot better than me thinking that it will take me for example 6 months more... Also a German doctor told me that even a normal bone fracture could take a year.
About the Clostridium Difficile I had... yes, that's a very bad risk in general with antibiotics. I got it from the antibiotics of the intial surgery. I didn't tell Dr. Giotikas about it until the last days of my stay in Athens. So they couldn't do anything because I didn't tell them. I was lucky because the symptoms of that infection can be a lot worse. Mine weren't as bad, so I felt uncomfortable telling anyone about my occasional diarreah. In Germany I was treated with vancomycin and now the results are all negative <- good sign. I'm fine again. I wish I had told Dr. Giotikas about it when I was in Athens. My insurance would have paid a treatment.
What matters is that my bones are growing. That's not something a doctor can just speed up. Ultrasound is not helping according to studies of 2017. What he can do is to watch the callus formation carefully during the lengthening phase and say when to stop or even to shorten again. I just lengthened again for 6mm which slowed down my consolidation.
Everyone will have their own problems. Remember how Jolien couldn't walk without the walker until the very end? Only after the frames were removed she was "magically" able to walk again unaided. Her bones are still not consolidated. Of course that takes time but she has certainly not recovered fully yet. And I know that if she had done fully externaly, she would still use the walker or crutches. Zakika unfortunately couldn't walk much because of pin infections in the ankle area. After frame removal he was soon fine again.
I know that I will also drastically improve once the frames are removed. So please stop with your presumptions of who is a good case and who is not. You can't compare LON cases to fully external cases anyways. Of course someone who does LON will be able to walk and "recover" earlier but LON has its own risks.
I don't mind being judged by random guys on the internet but don't forget to think realistically about this whole surgery.
LL is not a walk in the park. Now after my experience, I don't recommend fully externals. But I don't regret having done it.
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you have 13 posts and literally every one of them you are promoting Dr. Sarin after so many butchered cases. lol.
I've been here long enough to know who and what is real and who and what is fake.
You are suspicious about Jolien's diary with Giotikas when she literally has videos of her walking with external fixator and with the nail in post lengthening?
lmfao
I'm not promoting Sarin ;D! I'm considering to get surgery with him, so I want to know as much as possible about this doctor. If I had more money, I would go to Paley of course, but I don't have.
This is very strange for me that almost everyone on this forum tells that Sarin is a butcher and it's crazy to go to him, but if I ask about examples, nobody replies to me. I even created a special topic to get more information: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=34000.msg135491 but I was told only about Crazy+6. Crazy+6 did external femurs with Sarin, but Sarin doesn't offer external femurs now.
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Hello everyone,
just updating- no improvement in my callus.
so I'm thinking to do bone grafting .the question for you guys is grafting is for my tibia right? so what will happen to my fibulas? they'll be forever nonunion?
thanks
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Hey tallmf are you ok?
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Did you see other doctor? Do you have any clue what caused non-union?
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Please take some other good doctors consultation before taking any big decision. I’ve read so many dairies for Dr Sarin not even one patient had complete recovery. Almost everyone have some of the other issues like nonunion, late healing, consolidation issue and some of even had gone through the wrong procedure.
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Reversing the lengthening may not cure non-union...
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Please take some other good doctors consultation before taking any big decision. I’ve read so many dairies for Dr Sarin not even one patient had complete recovery. Almost everyone have some of the other issues like nonunion, late healing, consolidation issue and some of even had gone through the wrong procedure.
Lol I've seen at least 20 patients here since the last time I was here in 2012-2013 And in 2018 and currently there is another 7 here now one of which is on his second lengthening, His exact words to me today were I haven't had one problem.
Bruh you got no idea what you're talking about and whilst there may be patients with complications from time to time sarin doesn't reject them and always offers to fix any complications.
Like I said there's about 7 patients here atm.
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ah.. dannyDeCromagnon aka 4cms is back defending his surgeon again.
This guy did two LLs, both with complications. Archieved a total height of 7.5cm.
Now he has bone non-union. Of course its not the subpar HLN nails fault, of course its not Dr. Sarins fault.
If this is not stockholm syndrome, i dont know what.
And nobody on this forum ever talked about Sarin and money. Only you.
Everyone else talked about how sh!te he is. How 9 of 10 patients get complications and many of them long-term.
4cms, Sarin could offer me free LL. I would never do it. Man the fk up and stop defending your e surgeon you inbred moron. ::)
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ah.. dannyDeCromagnon aka 4cms is back defending his surgeon again.
This guy did two LLs, both with complications. Archieved a total height of 7.5cm.
Now he has bone non-union. Of course its not the subpar HLN nails fault, of course its not Dr. Sarins fault.
If this is not stockholm syndrome, i dont know what.
And nobody on this forum ever talked about Sarin and money. Only you.
Everyone else talked about how sh!te he is. How 9 of 10 patients get complications and many of them long-term.
4cms, Sarin could offer me free LL. I would never do it. Man the fk up and stop defending your e surgeon you inbred moron. ::)
Hey Gronk No.1 I had no complications with Tibias and 2 My complication was fixed over a week ago and i wasnt charged 1 cent for the surgery or accommodation.
Didn't I tell you to stop hiding and come to brisbane Australia so I can beat your Ass!
In 6 weeks my right leg will be done, Come down Coward.
Pm me and I'll send you my location.
Don't tell me to man up, I'm 100 times a man over you, You say im inbred? But im actually mixed race ....Come to brisbane in 6 Weeks and say it to my face.
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ah.. dannyDeCromagnon aka 4cms is back defending his surgeon again.
This guy did two LLs, both with complications. Archieved a total height of 7.5cm.
Now he has bone non-union. Of course its not the subpar HLN nails fault, of course its not Dr. Sarins fault.
If this is not stockholm syndrome, i dont know what.
And nobody on this forum ever talked about Sarin and money. Only you.
Everyone else talked about how sh!te he is. How 9 of 10 patients get complications and many of them long-term.
4cms, Sarin could offer me free LL. I would never do it. Man the fk up and stop defending your e surgeon you inbred moron. ::)
Look at your quote from last year
TinyTl:
" I am 30. Let me tell you something,
alone on a weekend, 30 years old. The future seems like an empty black wall, I don't think what awaits me but this pain is unbearable at times. "
I'm not surprised that No girl will come near you.
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Look at your quote from last year
TinyTl:
" I am 30. Let me tell you something,
alone on a weekend, 30 years old. The future seems like an empty black wall, I don't think what awaits me but this pain is unbearable at times. "
I'm not surprised that No girl will come near you.
if you havent noticed, this is a parody account. But your main trait is low IQ, so I am not surprised.
I have another account which I dont use anymore as I just want it to die on a "high". I did stryde this year, I can do anything but running fast. I can jump about half a meter, it gets better every week. I havent tried running because I feel I need to build muscles first, or i may end up hurting the bones.
4cms...4cms.. 4cms... what can I tell, I knew you from the old forum. I seen the "doxxing" page Apotheosis made for you. You sure fit the description in it:
- Low IQ
- Narcistic
- Overly agressive
and this goldie:
4cms was very insecure about his penis size, as well. He would often psychologically project his small penis size onto other people when arguing with them. During his consolidation phase, 4cms traveled to the city of Mumbai in India to have penis enlargement surgery by having fat surgically removed his back and then injected subcutaneously into his dinky weenie.
lets see what fellow Sarin patients have to say about 4cms:
He's a former patent of Dr. Sarin. After Dr. Sarin reputation was tarnished in the Summer 2013 due to his malpractice, he reached out to his former patients and made deals with them to encourage their friends to have surgery with Sarin and the former patients will get a cut of the $15,000 - 17,500 price Sarin charged. Back in Fall 2013, 4cms has made similar agreements with Sarin because he posted a Facebook status, asking his friends: "if they want to get taller, send me a private message". 4cm's friends were previously aware of him having LL surgery because they found his diary due to him stupidly posting much of his personal information on there; such as his name, pictures of his face, his hometown, his username containing most of his date of birth and his email address.
Today, I believe 4cms must be getting some kind of discount for posting a femoral lengthening diary because he is determined to prove Dr. Sarin is a competent doctor for no good reason. 4cms is nothing more than a shill for a corrupt butcher, so don't trust a word he says. The man is a pathological lair and will make up lies about people to demonize them. An example of this is, the lies he made about Dr. Guichet about Guichet stealing from 4cms.
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if you havent noticed, this is a parody account. But your main trait is low IQ, so I am not surprised.
I have another account which I dont use anymore as I just want it to die on a "high". I did stryde this year, I can do anything but running fast. I can jump about half a meter, it gets better every week. I havent tried running because I feel I need to build muscles first, or i may end up hurting the bones.
4cms...4cms.. 4cms... what can I tell, I knew you from the old forum. I seen the "doxxing" page Apotheosis made for you. You sure fit the description in it:
- Low IQ
- Narcistic
- Overly agressive
and this goldie:
"4cms was very insecure about his penis size, as well. He would often psychologically project his small penis size onto other people when arguing with them. During his consolidation phase, 4cms traveled to the city of Mumbai in India to have penis enlargement surgery by having fat surgically removed his back and then injected subcutaneously into his dinky weenie. "
lets see what fellow Sarin patients have to say about 4cms:
Blah blah blah, Be a man and come and say what you want to my face, If you're a man.
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also
Hey Gronk No.1 I had no complications with Tibias
Truth:
4cms regrettably had to cut his leg lengthening phase short as he suffered from a nerve issue. He achieved 6cm of lengthening, but his bones later compressed to give him 5cm of extra height.
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alsoTruth:
You're proving exactly what I suspect, That you're a keyboard warrior without the balls to be a man, Things like doxxing petrify you but for me that's just the world where cowards like you live.
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You're proving exactly what I suspect, That you're a keyboard warrior without the balls to be a man, Things like doxxing petrify you but for me that's just the world where cowards like you live.
ehm? I never doxxed you or anyone. Infact, in the text above I replaced your real name with '4cms' to protect your identity. so shut ur whoremouth about my ethics.
also, do you have anything to say about the accusations above? or do you feel that your lies and your shilling for Dr. Sarin has been exposed and that there is nothing to do about it than to challenge me to "fight" half-way across the globe.
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ehm? I never doxxed you or anyone. Infact, in the text above I replaced your real name with '4cms' to protect your identity. so shut ur whoremouth about my ethics.
also, do you have anything to say about the accusations above? or do you feel that your lies and your shilling for Dr. Sarin has been exposed and that there is nothing to do about it than to challenge me to "fight" half-way across the globe.
Words have consequences and people like you need to learn that you can't go talking a bunch of trash over the internet because one day you're going to run into a real dude that's gunna make you pay for it.
I suspect your misery causes you to be the big mouth you are, I bet you don't have the balls to talk the way you do over the internet in real life cause you'd get your head bashed in.
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4cm its getting embarasing m8 you lost take it on the chin like a man
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Words have consequences and people like you need to learn that you can't go talking a bunch of trash over the internet because one day you're going to run into a real dude that's gunna make you pay for it.
I suspect your misery causes you to be the big mouth you are, I bet you don't have the balls to talk the way you do over the internet in real life cause you'd get your head bashed in.
fine, lets say me getting my "head bashed" is my faith.
What faith awaits someone who 'shills' for a proven malpracticising surgeon who has already ruined many innocent peoples lifes?
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@daikioni
Now thats exactly what I'm talking about, To people like you and Tiny winning over the internet is what counts as if what you find on it is the truth and tangible. Strong men are thick skinned especially when it comes to twisted rubbish coming from miserable beta cowards.
Winning in life and talking trash over the internet are 2 different things im not going to dignify rubbish with a response but i will call out the coward who says them hiding behind his Mobile phone /Keyboard.
@Tinytl I've been 100% honest in my experience and I've reported the good and the bad so don't talk like you're not a scum bag that's in need of having his mouth smacked.
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This forum is all about ego dispute and nothing about helping LLer. I don't know why some people don't just leave as they promised.
tallmf, where do you live? In your country do you have a good public health system (Unicorn for example has NHS which is great)? If you do not trust in your doctor, you need to chose something to do now, and where to do it. How are you planning to reverse the lengthening?
Birkholtz don't do CLL anymore, but he may fix CLL patients treated by other doctor he is not expensive, if you can't find help in your country. Or you may try Parihar. Or... you may want to keep your doctor.
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This forum is all about ego dispute and nothing about helping LLer. I don't know why some people don't just leave as they promised.
tallmf, where do you live? In your country do you have a good public health system (Unicorn for example has NHS which is great)? If you do not trust in your doctor, you need to chose something to do now, and where to do it. How are you planning to reverse the lengthening?
Birkholtz don't do CLL anymore, but he may fix CLL patients treated by other doctor he is not expensive, if you can't find help in your country. Or you may try Parihar. Or... you may want to keep your doctor.
Bruh Tallmf hasn't updated his diary he probably will soon, I've seen and talked to him he's doing fine I'll let him do the update its his thread.
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a man of his words :
Latest Thoughts
Due to the toxicity of this forum once i finish lengthening im not coming back other than to give one update on wether im walking unaided or not.
Pm me for any questions.
::)
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Im 100% a man of my words I came back and updated with complete honesty because I was asked by 2 people who were interested, Its there clear as day.
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Bruh Tallmf hasn't updated his diary he probably will soon, I've seen and talked to him he's doing fine I'll let him do the update its his diary.
So I have to believe his callus is growing strong now.
Or are you really saying someone who has non-union is fine?
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So I have to believe his callus is growing strong now.
Or are you really saying someone who has non-union is fine?
I'm saying he's doing fine because I have seen and talked to him and he's in higher spirits, I won't give the news or update on his behalf because i believe that's up to him.
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Ok, maybe our definition of fine is not the same. I respect that. I'll be waiting for his update.
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Yea He'll update when he's ready.
@Tinytl There's no making cowards into men is there?
You admitted yourself that you're 30 years old and alone on a weekend.
You deserve every bit of insecurity, misery and suffering in your life because you're a big mouth. It's easy to see why you're alone.
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such new lows in this forum. why cant people attack problems instead of people?
my 2 euros:
sarin has shown business mind in the past and has admit himself of dealings. this is not ethical. unless he is proven to have change his practise he should be seen with doubt. giving free treatment for complication is not enough. preventing complication is more important.
hydraulic length. is it used in belgium where it is created? if they use it in belgium i will be convinced. is it 'supplied' only to india to some doctors like sarin? why no other known doctor uses hydraulic nail?
why doesnt sarin use precise or stride?
why is there 0 recovery evidence of sarin patients? specially hydraulic nail. why is there 0 evidence?
see... discussing like this is more constructive. show each other some respect..
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Mate go back and look who began disrespect.
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Sorry, I don't want trouble, but I just imagine. You are with broken femurs, TinyTL is with broken femurs. If you engage in a fight and start to kick each other would be really funny.
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My left legs healed and my right leg will be done in 6 weeks.
Thats not the point though a bitter miserable coward who talks about people he doesn't know and attempts to dirty their name while behind the safety of his mobile/keybaord is a coward regardless.
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ok.. leave this fighting topic. this is tallmf diary.
my skepticism of sarin remains but i raise it respectfully
1) hydraulic length. is it used in belgium where it is created? if they use it in belgium i will be convinced. is it 'supplied' only to india to some doctors like sarin? why no other known doctor uses hydraulic nail? is not shady that a nail is prepared in some country just to be used in india? is the nail not fit for use in the EU>?
2) why doesnt sarin use precise or stride?
3) there is 0 evidence of sarin patient full recovery? specially HLN. after 100s if patients 0 proof?
no need to answer but this is for readers..
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ok.. leave this fighting topic. this is tallmf diary.
my skepticism of sarin remains but i raise it respectfully
1) hydraulic length. is it used in belgium where it is created? if they use it in belgium i will be convinced. is it 'supplied' only to india to some doctors like sarin? why no other known doctor uses hydraulic nail? is not shady that a nail is prepared in some country just to be used in india? is the nail not fit for use in the EU>?
2) why doesnt sarin use precise or stride?
3) there is 0 evidence of sarin patient full recovery? specially HLN. after 100s if patients 0 proof?
no need to answer but this is for readers..
What kind of evidence do you want? I have surgery with Sarin next week and can provide you that after my recovery.
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What kind of evidence do you want? I have surgery with Sarin next week and can provide you that after my recovery.
All that I ask, if it's not too much, is a video sprinting 100m, jumping and lifting some weights. It doesn't need to be immediately after surgery, it can be 2 years after it. You don't need to be Usain Bolt, Mike Powell or Vlad Alhazov, just show you still can do these things.
off topic: women are way more sophisticated than us.
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No problem. I will provide these videos. I just want to mention that already Sweden recorded videos like that.
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No problem. I will provide these videos. I just want to mention that already Sweden recorded videos like that.
Thank you very much.
Do you mean this kind of video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RYwSJ4abdA
I didn't see any further so I don't know if situation miraculously improved years after lengthening (he was depressed in time of this video), but if he is trying to run full speed at this video it's totally unacceptable to me, and my threshold is not that high. My father is elderly and has COPD due to cigarettes and he probably could beat Sweden at this speed.
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here is the more later video: https://youtu.be/QF1LiHU_D-o
he seems to be 'ok' in recovery except for x legs. which is completely sarin's mistake. sweden had 0 control on x legs. he muscles are full, flexibility is good. he even made this video more later https://youtu.be/ERZTTxINR0w
he is missing good recovery because of x legs. something sarin should have prevented..
sweden is only person who has posted videos honestly. but he has x legs as u can see. something sarin should hav prevented.. not swedens mistake..
now even if sarin gives 'free' correction for sweden sweden has to bear the pain suffering and further risks. so 'free' correction as 4cm got is not a valid replacement here.
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In these videos his recovery looks more acceptable to me (not ideal).
But yeah, with xlegs, no matter what caused it, in the long term he is screwed. He is stubborn and will not correct that.
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here is the more later video: https://youtu.be/QF1LiHU_D-o
he seems to be 'ok' in recovery except for x legs. which is completely sarin's mistake. sweden had 0 control on x legs. he muscles are full, flexibility is good. he even made this video more later https://youtu.be/ERZTTxINR0w
he is missing good recovery because of x legs. something sarin should have prevented..
sweden is only person who has posted videos honestly. but he has x legs as u can see. something sarin should hav prevented.. not swedens mistake..
now even if sarin gives 'free' correction for sweden sweden has to bear the pain suffering and further risks. so 'free' correction as 4cm got is not a valid replacement here.
Lmao mate I don't have xlegs and my tibia recovery was 100% with no loss of athletic ability. You can take my word for it or think I'm lying, Up to you.
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In these videos his recovery looks more acceptable to me (not ideal).
But yeah, with xlegs, no matter what caused it, in the long term he is screwed. He is stubborn and will not correct that.
It depends on how you see it. It's maybe crazy, but for me having xlegs is better than being short ;D. But, of course, I hope my recovery will be full :)
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It depends on how you see it. It's maybe crazy, but for me having xlegs is better than being short ;D. But, of course, I hope my recovery will be full :)
i highlight in bold ur reply part for others to note. thanks for being so clear on this. others can take note.
its however possible to get LL without getting x legs. i hope u do. its completely dr sarin. it all depends on he puts the frame, where he makes bone break and how he inserts rod and how he monitors lengthening. its completely on sarin.
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Lmao mate I don't have xlegs and my tibia recovery was 100% with no loss of athletic ability. You can take my word for it or think I'm lying, Up to you.
honestly man - i dont trust any one's word. its important to see recovery. sweden said he is world class athelete. it may be true but only after u see his videos u can see x legs. u are not posting x rays after bone graft or videos so its not possible to take word like that. but no disrespect or force m8.
and just because u didnt get x legs doesnt mean sweden also didnt. sweden got x legs and he is genuine person and doesnt hide anything.
why did sarin let sweden get x legs? sarin should hav prevented it.
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honestly man - i dont trust any one's word. its important to see recovery. sweden said he is world class athelete. it may be true but only after u see his videos u can see x legs. u are not posting x rays after bone graft or videos so its not possible to take word like that. but no disrespect or force m8.
and just because u didnt get x legs doesnt mean sweden also didnt. sweden got x legs and he is genuine person and doesnt hide anything.
why did sarin let sweden get x legs? sarin should hav prevented it.
Hahahah then don't read diaries.
What happened to this paley patient???
Hes got way worse xlegs than sweden or you gunna look past it cause its a paley patient?? Bahaha
He also paid 220k for it......Fail 😂
https://youtu.be/tXC_eSGFeHw
And I'm not going to post anymore xrays or a video either and I'm happy about that🤩
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he posted x rays and they were good alignment. may be this was due to muscle weakness. u can see his legs internal rotated. and this was very early in recovery.
however u may be right. u did a good thing pointing this out.
but why mock him? why take enjoyment out of this? why mention 200k? are u saying if he had paid 20k it would hav been ok? why not be respectful>?
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he posted x rays and they were good alignment. may be this was due to muscle weakness. u can see his legs internal rotated. and this was very early in recovery.
however u may be right. u did a good thing pointing this out.
but why mock him? why take enjoyment out of this? why mention 200k? are u saying if he had paid 20k it would hav been ok? why not be respectful>?
Ahhhhh so because its a paley patient its muscle weakness, You guys are funny 😂😂😂 and I'm being Disrespectful am I ? Sorry mate I think you don't know what being respectful is. I'm laughing at you actually because you made an effort to point out Sweden's xlegs but conveniently left out this paley patient.
No further comment.
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hey guys, I did bone grafting surgery on both legs 5 weeks ago. also, I fixed my ballerina with a foot frame,( i was in frame for 20 days) so I'm on the cast now, ill remove my cast in one week and ill post my Xray in one week. by the way, my regeneration is good already. how do I know? because I went to remove the frame a couple of weeks ago, I saw it on the operation theatre Xray machine ( I don't know the actual name of that thing) and the doctors confirmed it.
I'll be leaving India by the end of the month. so when I'm back home ill write my complete experience and future progress. hanging there guys. I'm okay right now.
in the meantime, for the future, LL's my advice. safe limit is 4-5cm keep this in mind, yes some people do 6,7,8,9 and get away with it. stretching capacity is different person to person, never get carried away with the bragging of the previous patients or doctors. if you are a pro/semi-pro sport, athletic, gym person your tendons and muscles are tight. after 10% lengthening of your bone, you will have problems. MOST IMPORTANT 5cm is a GOOD fking height remember this.
and if you are doing lengthening on non-weight-bearing frame, please do exercise every day. here dr sarin provides physiotherapy every day. however I couldn't do physio from 4cm to 6cm ( almost a month) for several reasons which ill explain later. I think I was the only patient who stopped doing physio halfway through since the dr sarin changed his frame to nonweight bearing a couple of years ago.
so I got unlucky. I hope this explain the reason why I did have nonunion, however, I'm glad it has been fixed and I take this as everything happen for a good reason.
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and of course, I didn't pay anything for the surgeries and hospitals, complications included in the package,
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Good to see your update, tallmf. Hope everything goes fine for you.
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thank you
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It depends on how you see it. It's maybe crazy, but for me having xlegs is better than being short ;D. But, of course, I hope my recovery will be full :)
i highlight in bold ur reply part for others to note. thanks for being so clear on this. others can take note.
Some people may say they prefer limp for the rest of their life or even have severe arthritis than being short.
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and of course, I didn't pay anything for the surgeries and hospitals, complications included in the package,
They don't care about that mate, They want everything to be perfect from start to finish with every single patient.........complications are unacceptable 😂😂😂and who cares if you didn't get charged to fix the complications lol.
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honestly man - i dont trust any one's word. its important to see recovery. sweden said he is world class athelete. it may be true but only after u see his videos u can see x legs. u are not posting x rays after bone graft or videos so its not possible to take word like that. but no disrespect or force m8.
and just because u didnt get x legs doesnt mean sweden also didnt. sweden got x legs and he is genuine person and doesnt hide anything.
why did sarin let sweden get x legs? sarin should hav prevented it.
Quick question, Have you done even 1 surgery yet?
And changed your mind now aye?
https://imgur.com/wCl7xNq
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I'm not shilling for or attacking any doctor. This is a very personal decision depending on your pocket, your location, the research you did.
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what is x legs?
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No problem. I will provide these videos. I just want to mention that already Sweden recorded videos like that.
Nice meeting you tonight @Tallpersonality, Just a genuine nice guy.
@tallmf , was a nice little party we had. Was fun and glad to see you happy. Loved the Home talk.
@Arabic man I love you dude, You are very similar to me especially how you throw your rubbish behind the door haha. Would be great if you migrated to Australia, Could see us being very good friends.
Hiyusna el lela! Kan Ahla youm hena.
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Thanks 4cm and others for inviting me to the party! Everybody was very nice and helpful for me. I saw tallmf and he looks good :)
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4cm: likewise man :)
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Nice meeting you tonight @Tallpersonality, Just a genuine nice guy.
@tallmf , was a nice little party we had. Was fun and glad to see you happy. Loved the Home talk.
@Arabic man I love you dude, You are very similar to me especially how you throw your rubbish behind the door haha. Would be great if you migrated to Australia, Could see us being very good friends.
Hiyusna el lela! Kan Ahla youm hena.
Loooool it was a nice day to gather all of you to spend a night to remember each other in the future as awesome memories.
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if you havent noticed, this is a parody account. But your main trait is low IQ, so I am not surprised.
I have another account which I dont use anymore as I just want it to die on a "high". I did stryde this year, I can do anything but running fast. I can jump about half a meter, it gets better every week. I havent tried running because I feel I need to build muscles first, or i may end up hurting the bones.
4cms...4cms.. 4cms... what can I tell, I knew you from the old forum. I seen the "doxxing" page Apotheosis made for you. You sure fit the description in it:
- Low IQ
- Narcistic
- Overly agressive
and this goldie:
lets see what fellow Sarin patients have to say about 4cms:
It's only right that I address your claim.
Here's what you said about me :
Quote 4cms was very insecure about his penis size, as well. He would often psychologically project his small penis size onto other people when arguing with them. During his consolidation phase, 4cms traveled to the city of Mumbai in India to have penis enlargement surgery by having fat surgically removed his back and then injected subcutaneously into his dinky weenie.
@Tinytl
My response:
I am in no way ashamed of anything I have done, This is proof you are an insecure scum bag. The fact is i mentioned in my diary that i had a motorbike accident in 2012 to which I suffered trauma to my penis which resulted in loss of function that required surgery. The surgery in exact detail was the grafting of skin at a point around my penis in order to pressurize the chambers that fill with blood on the inside.The effect was that my recovery was immeadiate after the swelling went down and full rigidity was restored and as a side effect I would have a larger circumference which is understandable since my own skin was used and sutured tightly which in turn gave normal function back. I wouldn't wish such an accident on no man and am in no way ashamed. I talked about it openly on my diary and til today would talk about it. Surgery in Australia for my injury was 25k while in India it was 8.5k. YES ! I did have surgery and again I talked about it openly and still do......I'm not one bit ashamed and have no reason to be after all this repaired all the damage I suffered in my motorbike accident where I slammed directly into the motorbike tank. The court case against the insurance company took over a year and the injury itself was devastating. I'm supposed to feel shame that I repaired an injury that would of took years to heal on its own? Now because you are such a scummy insecure maggot, Let me say this because in your mind you think you are in some way making yourself look good by trying to put others down. Real talk now, Tinytl. If i one day you manage to trick a female into your life, If i wanted to i could easily take her from you. Just by your own admission of you admitting that you are 30 years old and alone on a weekend is enough to know your calibre with women. I'll say this, before even my first LL I had women and would go out with my friends fishing ( picking up girls ) i mean you already have seen what i look like yea doing LL was more related to my fighting arts and the way other fighters perceived me. You know it and I know it , Let me say it again just to rub it in, If i wanted i could take the 1 girl you have which I doubt you even have 1 or will have in the future and leave you alone and miserable You are so you deserve to hear this. You talked about me attempting to make me look bad but since you are so low and scummy its 100% deserved for me to put you in your place. You say im low IQ but you're a guy that said he will sell his house to do LL, If thats not an indication of low IQ then it definitely shows how desperate you are and we all know women hate desperate men, Face it dude you are a beta male and LL cant solve that mate. I know there are confident men here who do LL but you are one of the desperate creeps reeking of neediness.
From your own admissions I know im better looking than you, have had beautiful girls in my life which again im sure you have had none from you admitting yourself that you are always alone on weekends which also means you don't get laid at all , Better than you in every aspect of manhood.
I got married at 35 so almost for almost 4 years now but I could of kept it rollin til my late 40s if i wanted to.
These are Your own words Tinytl :
" I can save up money instead and do LL in 2 years, but thats 2 years of my time wasted on walking around in the body i dont feel confortable with. Low self-esteem, missed oppourtinities. "
" I hate being so self-conscious about this, some days im ridiculously tired but I try to stay awake so I don't shrink "
" Its small things like that which tilts me towards LL, i want to be a free man again. I want to live without such fear and self-conscioussness. "
" alone on a weekend, 30 years old. The future seems like an empty black wall, I don't think what awaits me but this pain is unbearable at times. "
Does any of that sound like a guy who should even be attempting to make fun of anybody ? Lmao
Don't talk about insecurity because you are the definition of it.
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It's only right that I address your claim.
Here's what you said about me :
Quote 4cms was very insecure about his penis size, as well. He would often psychologically project his small penis size onto other people when arguing with them. During his consolidation phase, 4cms traveled to the city of Mumbai in India to have penis enlargement surgery by having fat surgically removed his back and then injected subcutaneously into his dinky weenie.
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Does any of that sound like a guy who should even be attempting to make fun of anybody ? Lmao
Don't talk about insecurity because you are the definition of it.
seriously you replied again to a 3 weeks old post even when the thread had become inactive?
talking about having nothing to do on weekends... get a life ya limp-d!cked fraud xD
tell me when you are off crutches so we can fight ;D
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seriously you replied again to a 3 weeks old post even when the thread had become inactive?
talking about having nothing to do on weekends... get a life ya limp-d!cked fraud xD
tell me when you are off crutches so we can fight ;D
You can come down now, Il take you the way I am.
Let me know as soon as you touch down in brisbane!
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seriously you replied again to a 3 weeks old post even when the thread had become inactive?
talking about having nothing to do on weekends... get a life ya limp-d!cked fraud xD
tell me when you are off crutches so we can fight ;D
So I've told you, You can come now.
You want to tell me why you have 5 accounts on here?
Have a read of them.
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=6863
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=5502
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=6250
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=6566
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=6722
https://www.reddit.com/user/throwaway_LL_truth/
In case you don't know, TinyTL is also BladeRunner, tlannister, llshouldbebanned, third_world and ned_flanders and this user in reddit.
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I have come home last week and I'm walking with crutches now. that's an improvement after bone grafting however I'm still fearful about my recovery, I really hope my bone get consolidated as I'm started walking now a lot, so I'm looking forward to my xray at the end of the month
however, I have a few concerns.
My fibula consolidation is not known.
also, I have extensor tendonitis and plantar fasciitis in the right foot, because I had severe equines contracture in the right foot so I still have lingering effects on my foot and ankle stiffness which affect my gait too. I need to sort this out in a hospital in Australia.
please see attached links of the xray taken in the hospital after the bone grafting surgery ( I had frames on because I fixed my ballerina by using Ilizarov foot frame without cutting the tendon)
https://imgur.com/a/IMW5VMr
also you can see the xray pictures taken a couple of weeks back,(just before I have started walking with crutches) however, the xray contrast is very bad there in India.
https://imgur.com/a/rPkUgSk
https://imgur.com/a/SS4jW8V
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just to update,
I'm walking with one crutch, I think my muscles are getting stronger. in the morning when I woke up I have half a cm ballerina, after walking it goes away, it comes back again in the morning.
in my request, I have done the Ilizarov foot frame surgery instead of the normal Achilles tendon cut surgery, (obviously you do not want to lose your calf strength permanently) it fixed my ballerina however during the foot ring frame, my foot arch muscles got weakened. so now I have flat feet, which something I need to fix over time.
I did my first Xray in my country ( away from India) on the 29th of October. so I will do the next x-ray at the end of the month, so I can compare both the xrays to see the regeneration of bone. because the xrays I took in India contrast is different.
Also, I took an ultrasound to my ankle. because I still have pain in the right foot anterior tendons, in the toes, my whole foot feels very tight, also ankle movements are painful. especially my ankle is blocking the planter flexion movement and when I try to do it I feel stress on my tibia when I walk this ankle affects my gait, also what I noticed was when I wear a high heel Nike shoe, this ankle seems unstable and weakened compare to the left ankle. I really wish my right foot is the same as the left foot.
so ultrasound results indicate, that my right foot anterior tendons are still inflamed and thickened and I still have a sprain in my ankle. which all happened during frame removal due to the severe ballerina, my anterior tendons in the left foot must be partially/completely are ruptured. because I had severe pain for 6-8 weeks after frame removal, I had to take anti-inflammatory pain killers to manage pain, maybe this could have caused me non-union along with non-weight baring, as it would have stopped the broken bone getting inflamed. So now it has been 7 months since the frame removal, my torn tendons would have patched up so ultrasound will only detect it is thickened.
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my anterior tendons in the *right foot*
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Thanks for the update tallmf. It sounds like a tough time and I hope you stay strong until one step after another the problems are solved. I kind of can imagine what you are going through as I also had/have consolidation problems and pain in my feet. (still pain in my left foot)
Are you going to PT in Australia now?
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Hi TallMF,
Hope you are doing alright these days.
Have your doctors been able to offer a solution for your non-union?
Wish you the best, don't give up hope and definitly update when you can!
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no physio, I just do Achilles tendon stretch and ankle stretches. I just keep walking one-two hours a day unaided but slowly. however, my progress has been stopped in the past couple of weeks due to bone pain in right leg.
It's been exactly one year and a week still, I have foot pain in the right foot along with wobbly weak and painful right ankle. It feels like a prosthetic foot. all because of ,I had a huge ballerina. I really wish I did fully external, I should have gone with my first choice kurgan, being in frame for 8-10 months, is not difficult honestly, living with complication really is.
not much bone growth from bone grafting in the past two months, I could not be bothered updating, if I see any significant bone growth I will update the xray.
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hello my dear friend Arch, how are you man, long time no chat.
Dr sarin said it may take another three months for consolidation, bone graft itself can take up to three months for healing. other than that no any particular treatment options were given to me at this stage.
I have also had a consultation with another Limb lengthening surgeon, he also asked me to keep on walking for a few more months, if not there is a new treatment called " Ossron" for bone defects along with stem cell therapy. however, undoing/reversing no longer an option.
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i had shortening of 1.4 cm with stryde nail when i had non union. within 2 weeks after shortening i had alot of callous form. i dont know if that is possible anyway without a reversable nail. but the shortening was extremely effective and fast for non union
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Its been almost more than 7 months now from my bone graft from my right leg however not much of progress.
the left leg is having a delayed union.
other than bad bone healing, I still have my right ankle pain from ligament damages + right foot muscles contracture + i have bowed leg ( not obvious bowed still its noticeable when I walk) + slightly inward rotated ankle - xray scan says i have mild osteoarthritis in both ankle. to sum up my legs and life is ruined and I'm crippled. this is all because of sarin's team pure negligence and incompetent.
now they even want to ignore my complaints. I'm fking furious. I will write a whole review and my experience from day one. starting with how I ended up get trapped in their marketing to how i ended up staying their 9 months.
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can you post a photo of your delayed union?
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tallmf, I'm not a doctor.. but could it be that where they broke the bone was too low? I've heard from other doctors that if the break is too low that could cause non-union problems. It should be closer to the tibia tuberosity area?
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Is there any update to this? I'm very sorry about your condition.
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Keep walking with crutches,. Are u allowed to weightbear? If so then walk religiously. I honestly don't know if LON the nail is weight bearing lol, I literally don't know, never asked ever since stryde preoccupied my research.
Weight bearing and forcing urself to walk is the Only Way to build bone at this point. Laying in bed can't do anything
And sry ur doctor is a monster. Sarin must've told you to lengthen 2mm a day. Disgusting
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Keep walking with crutches,. Are u allowed to weightbear? If so then walk religiously. I honestly don't know if LON the nail is weight bearing lol, I literally don't know, never asked ever since stryde preoccupied my research.
Weight bearing and forcing urself to walk is the Only Way to build bone at this point. Laying in bed can't do anything
And sry ur doctor is a monster. Sarin must've told you to lengthen 2mm a day. Disgusting
If there is a non union then walking won't do anything.
Shortening back and "injure" the bone with a surgery to make it to try to heal again is the only way to go.
Non union is not usual if you lengthen at a normal rate and you are not taking antiinflammatory drugs. However, 2mm is 2x the normal lengthening rate and any doctor that suggests his patient to lengthen that much is a butcher.
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feel so bad 4 tallmf.
Fück sarin. Stupid áss hòe. We need to stop this man from practicing medicine.
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feel so bad 4 tallmf.
Fück sarin. Stupid áss hòe. We need to stop this man from practicing medicine.
We should keep track of the all the major complications and malpractices of LL doctors so this doesn't happen to anyone else or so people can make better decisions on where to go for LL.
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tallmf, how are you doing now?
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I would like to know as well..
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Hey, i was wondering how you've been so far? I am absolutely terrified of non-union, for me, it's a big worry and i was wondering how you've been holding up
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sorry about your complications, hope you get well soon
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It's useless to just plain talk about whether surgeons are good or not, unless you do a statistical analysis and estimate the complication rate and such, especially after one has already finished surgeries. But it indeed stroke me that Sarin told him to lengthen 2x faster. It seems to me this doctor is totally a retard since I don't know much about him. But what is the point discussing how good/bad random surgeons when it totally sidetracks the main point of this post?
Not everyone can afford for Paley and such either. I just hope OP is alright now.
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Thats true. He is not. This surgery only works if you have money as fuk
Of course, otherwise there will be 10x more short people doing it. But I am wondering why OP did not give that retard surgeon up when he suggested to legnthen 2mm per day. Of course it will cause non-union as expected because your body can't catch up with such high rate. It's indeed important to have primary knowledges about this surgery, to avoid being crippled by any bad surgeon.(Btw I am not blaming OP for his ignorance about this surgery. Just try to aware other potiential patients of the importance of primary knowledges. This surgery is really not a joke. You really will not even know if your legs will be screwed up if you don't know them, and cry about the disability without the surgeon giving any fks about you).
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hey guys, I did bone grafting surgery on both legs 5 weeks ago. also, I fixed my ballerina with a foot frame,( i was in frame for 20 days) so I'm on the cast now, ill remove my cast in one week and ill post my Xray in one week. by the way, my regeneration is good already. how do I know? because I went to remove the frame a couple of weeks ago, I saw it on the operation theatre Xray machine ( I don't know the actual name of that thing) and the doctors confirmed it.
I'll be leaving India by the end of the month. so when I'm back home ill write my complete experience and future progress. hanging there guys. I'm okay right now.
in the meantime, for the future, LL's my advice. safe limit is 4-5cm keep this in mind, yes some people do 6,7,8,9 and get away with it. stretching capacity is different person to person, never get carried away with the bragging of the previous patients or doctors. if you are a pro/semi-pro sport, athletic, gym person your tendons and muscles are tight. after 10% lengthening of your bone, you will have problems. MOST IMPORTANT 5cm is a GOOD fking height remember this.
and if you are doing lengthening on non-weight-bearing frame, please do exercise every day. here dr sarin provides physiotherapy every day. however I couldn't do physio from 4cm to 6cm ( almost a month) for several reasons which ill explain later. I think I was the only patient who stopped doing physio halfway through since the dr sarin changed his frame to nonweight bearing a couple of years ago.
so I got unlucky. I hope this explain the reason why I did have nonunion, however, I'm glad it has been fixed and I take this as everything happen for a good reason.
The amount of your tibial lengthening lies within the safe range. 6-6.5 cm is not hard to breeze though. Just you lengthened too fast, so of course your bones could not catch up.
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