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Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Patients Experiences => Topic started by: dunghuynh2227 on August 08, 2019, 09:15:04 AM
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Hello everyone , today im gonna star surgery , i want to share my experience with you guys. Since Dr Luong is one of the best in this field , im want to be his patient . I stay at Bac Ha international hospital , Long Bien , Hanoi. The facitilies here quite new , all staff are friendly . That is all i see until now . I'll update more after surgery.
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Hello everyone , today im gonna star surgery , i want to share my experience with you guys. Since Dr Luong is one of the best in this field , im want to be his patient . I stay at Bac Ha international hospital , Long Bien , Hanoi. The facitilies here quite new , all staff are friendly . That is all i see until now . I'll update more after surgery.
Never heard of him and I’ve been on this forum for a couple years, what are his credentials? Residencies? Education?
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The Dr is from VietNam
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He quite famous in Việt Nam! , he did. Most limblegnthen case in Vietnam
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What is the current price for surgery in Vietnam with Dr Nguyen Van Luong?
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He quite famous in Việt Nam! , he did. Most limblegnthen case in Vietnam
I hope he does offer Stryde or at least precise
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Total is about $6500. First surgery and all fee at hospital include medicine , food , and room sẻvice is $5000. Second time , frame removal , about $1500
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He seems quite cheap, I'm also thinking of doing ll in Vietnam. Does he accept English speaking foreigners? Is there food and accommodation included? What method is used?
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yes it incluced 3 meal perday and hospital room 10 day after surgery. he have done surgery for fogeiner before
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it a bout 4 days i feel hard to go to toilet. i need some help from other people. i cant sleep until the surger day until now. so hurt :((
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Hey, congrats on starting your journey. I had my surgery about a month ago and the first few days after surgery are definitely the hardest I've faced so far, it gets much easier after about a week. I didn't poo for 5 days after my surgery! I had to get an enema, then I didn't poo for another 5 days after that! Had to get another enema, after that I started pooing normally.
What method did your surgeon use? Is there an internal nail inside your tibia also? (i.e LON)
Best of luck
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Hi glad to hear that you are doing well. Could you post his contact details or a website to his clinic/hospital? Thank you
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thanks , i get poo at 4th days too. the method is lengthen and then nailing. this is his offical page https://www.facebook.com/keodaichandrdoan/ but only vietnamese. i think he can reply in eng too
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That website says dr. Doan, is dr. Luong someone else? I found a website with dr. Lương on it too..
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Yeah they works toghether , you can contact anyone . The dr Luong site is keodaichan.com but i didnt see he update it usually.
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It 5ft day after surgery but i still hurt , Can not move by myself
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Yea I contacted both! Dr. Luong haven’t gotten back to me, but dr. Doan has. The price is very fair especially since the price in Ho Chi Minh has increased to USD 19k.. doctor doan told me that the price only includes everything for the operations and the 10days hospital stay after it.. what are your plans during the lengthening process in terms of accommodations and physical therapy?
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I hired room near hospital for 4 Months with another guy. Price is 1k3 for each one in 4 month.
Dr doan say total i think it about firsy surgery . Not inlude frame removal surgery after it
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So it’s 1.3k for all 4 months per person? That’s pretty good too. I’m trying to see if anyone would want to split the cost for the accommodation this upcoming December because I’m planning on having it done then.. and yes it’s, about 5k USD for the first portion, then about another 1500 for the second op and removal.
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Yes true bro . DR say they only do in tibias and can length from 7-10 cm. Many patients had finish and still have good result
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Does anyone have same problem to me , i have no pain in day but at night really hurt . I can sleep without pain relief.
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Yea I’m currently 1.68, doctor recommended 7cm but I’ll try to do 9cm.. how tall were you when you started? Also, they take credit cards too.. so that’s a plus haha
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How are you getting your physiotherapy done? From my knowledge you'll get bad equinus without pt for >5cm lenghtening
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The price quoted didn’t seem to mention anything about PT, but I’m pretty confident we can outsource that to a local contractor for next to nothing in Vietnam.. the doctor will most likely recommend a PT group That he works with. Based on everything I’ve read on their website, this hospital is a army owned hospital. The reason the price is much cheaper than anywhere else is because their government considers this operation to be a necessary corrections, versus a cosmetic correction.
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Just some normal leg raise and ankle schetching. All patient here have done 7-10cm in tibia. My goal is 8cm
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Im 162cm and goal is 170
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The price quoted didn’t seem to mention anything about PT, but I’m pretty confident we can outsource that to a local contractor for next to nothing in Vietnam.. the doctor will most likely recommend a PT group That he works with. Based on everything I’ve read on their website, this hospital is a army owned hospital. The reason the price is much cheaper than anywhere else is because their government considers this operation to be a necessary corrections, versus a cosmetic correction.
yeah , you can even do the PT exercise by yoursefl , just simple
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Hey,
I hope this email sees you well,
I am planning to do limb lengthening in Vietnam, I was initially planning HCM as well but you had stated it has increased to 19k USD, so I am looking for more details on Dr Nguyen Van Loung and Dr Doan, and are you doing the surgery in December ? maybe we can work out accommodation together,
Thank you and Warm Regards,
Anthony Tia
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And also is the price 6500 for the surgery the same for foreigners ?
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Hey,
I hope this email sees you well,
I am planning to do limb lengthening in Vietnam, I was initially planning HCM as well but you had stated it has increased to 19k USD, so I am looking for more details on Dr Nguyen Van Loung and Dr Doan, and are you doing the surgery in December ? maybe we can work out accommodation together,
Thank you and Warm Regards,
Anthony Tia
thank you but i cant see your email , just resend or send me by dungdaica456@gmail.com
Im start sugery on 8/8 and maybe finish at december , sorry for that. Besides I think that the price for fogeiner too , but it increase by month . I think you should ask when it near the surgery for exaclty price
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How are you getting your physiotherapy done? From my knowledge you'll get bad equinus without pt for >5cm lenghtening
as you know , the more we length the longer time we need to recover. we can length as much as we want but proposion is the key. I have see one patient of him gain 10cm in tibias and it still fine but Dr not recomment it , 7-8 is everage
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Today is day 9 after surgery and im star lengthen for 2 days. The knee is less hurt , i can do almost personal routine by myself. If everything ok I will comeback the apartment
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I just messaged him and its 10,000 USD, can you send me details of the hotel you are staying at, and does it include meals, and a caretaker? He said its 15,000 USD for the package including stay and pick up
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Hey Anthony! Yes I am planning on going to Vietnam in December for the operation, but not until end of December. I don’t have any details on the hotels yet, the doctor said he can help us find accommodation when we are there. He quoted you 10k and what does that include? I’m definitely interested in splitting the accommodations if our dates work out
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I would not mind end of December so we can go through this together,
He said it includes frame installation and removal, 10 day hospital stay and medicine,
I am trying to negotiate with HCM as well since I only want to do 3 month stay instead of 4 months as I am aiming for 5cm, since any complications is sorted for no extra cost, and there is a translator it gives you peace of mind,
I need to find out if the 10,000 USD package includes X-ray and consultation, as well as visa, if that can be sorted, we can just split the accomodation somewhere else and save the 3,000 USD for a rainy day.
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I sent you a personal message, let’s exchange contact infos there so we can contact outside of the forum.. it’s a little inconvenient
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did you receive my message
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Yea I got it. I responded!
For HCM the prices went up for the operations, something about how foreigners must do the operation at a more expensive hospital.. not so much for the accommodations.
Let me know if you found about about the x-rays and consultation being included in the price. But in terms of accommodations, a nice Airbnb nearby the hospital only cost about 300-500 USD per month.. split between 2 will be a joke haha.. so the 15k price is definitely not worth it.
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Hi dunghuynh2227, what technology they are using in vietnam? STRYDE, PRECICE2, LON, HOLYFIX, or ILIZAROV ?
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Hi dunghuynh2227, what technology they are using in vietnam? STRYDE, PRECICE2, LON, HOLYFIX, or ILIZAROV ?
Lengthent and nailing with new fame , less scar then ikizarov
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glad it's getting better, could you post some pics of the frames & x-rays? it'll be very helpful
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as you know , the more we length the longer time we need to recover. we can length as much as we want but proposion is the key. I have see one patient of him gain 10cm in tibias and it still fine but Dr not recomment it , 7-8 is everage
Fake diary. No xrays and every one knows the max safe limit is 5-6cm. 7-8cm on tibia will likely leave you crippled
Maybe price is cheap because you are paying to butcher yourself
Moderator or someone ban this account
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Why Is there always negative comments on every single bloody diary, just leave it Alone we are not interested in your thoughts if you have evidence it is fake provide it, if not stop spamming with negativity about the surgery, the forum is called limb lengthening, go provide your negativity on Facebook or anold forum.
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Why Is there always negative comments on every single bloody diary, just leave it Alone we are not interested in your thoughts if you have evidence it is fake provide it, if not stop spamming with negativity about the surgery, the forum is called limb lengthening, go provide your negativity on Facebook or anold forum.
It’s not negativity. He is misguiding people by saying this doctor can do 7-10cm on tibias which is comedy at that point. It is fake you idiot if the worlds best surgeons tell you the maximum they can safely do is 5-6cm what makes you think nearly double that is ok with some bootleg doctor? If one can not provide xrays it is a fake diary. On this forum that is the general consensus between us, if you cannot provide proof it is fake. It is not true until proven false, it is false until proven true. The MAXIMUM one can do is 6cm which is even then a long shot many people cannot even reach it that far without quitting. This guy said it’s okay to do 7-10cm and it will be okay which is hilarious because every single diary on this forum of people doing 7cm on tibias resulted in permanent loss of strength of function and strength. Never the less more
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Are you a qualified general practitioner? If not your statements and opinions from online research means fk all.
I just read through your post, you claim to pick up girls with a Porsche and dressing nicely, mate how old are you 12? LMAO.
I wouldn't trust a single word coming from someone saying that, LMAO.
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Drafw people have length more than 20cm in total , do you think safe . Absolutebly not. I have post the offical page of the DR in 1st page , you can go there and see . I already have Xray and i will upload right now
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(https://www.facebook.com/100003233093037/posts/2305066469611100?s=100003233093037&substory_index=0&sfns=mo)
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https://imgur.com/R9d5g9e
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https://imgur.com/QUtgGY6 this is me , I dont give a if you dont trust me , just get out
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https://imgur.com/a/0kI5Q9k here is 10cm in tibias , stupid. all of you say they cant length over 7cm is as same as eating after 8pm will make you fat. It just take longer time recover and healing.
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Thanks for the pics you look well, I messaged them and was recommended 8cm for 164cm so it seems pretty standard for most people in that height range. How's their caregiving?
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Thanks for the pics you look well, I messaged them and was recommended 8cm for 164cm so it seems pretty standard for most people in that height range. How's their caregiving?
quite well if you do at Bac Ha hospital because it a international hospital
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Hi im interested in doing tibia lengthening in vietnam too but i am unable to find the contact details of the Doctor. Can any of you kindly send me the details? Thank you :)
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Hi im interested in doing tibia lengthening in vietnam too but i am unable to find the contact details of the Doctor. Can any of you kindly send me the details? Thank you :)
at first page
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Are you a qualified general practitioner? If not your statements and opinions from online research means fk all.
I just read through your post, you claim to pick up girls with a Porsche and dressing nicely, mate how old are you 12? LMAO.
I wouldn't trust a single word coming from someone saying that, LMAO.
No but I am quoting the best orthopedic surgeons in the world you d*mb f*cking idiot
Actually I don’t claim, that is my reality. That has no logical relevance to the fact you can’t lengthen that much and be anything more than semi-crippled
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No but I am quoting the best orthopedic surgeons in the world you d*mb f*cking idiot
Actually I don’t claim, that is my reality. That has no logical relevance to the fact you can’t lengthen that much and be anything more than semi-crippled
could you show any science-based evidence such as study or newspaper about that? I didn't see any research tell that until now
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total medicine fee for home treatment is 200$ for 3 month
1) totcal , talimin, newcobex , fuxicure, cefpiroxil
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Why are you on this forum then ? 😂😂😂 it seems like you are trying to get approval you are a lady’s men, it won’t be the case on this forum unfortunately,
Reality ? 😂😂😂
Quoting from the best orthopaedic ? Hmm where’s your reference their the best ? 😂😂
I’m the best doctor, now go jump the bridge 😂😂😂
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Why are you on this forum then ? 😂😂😂 it seems like you are trying to get approval you are a lady’s men, it won’t be the case on this forum unfortunately,
Reality ? 😂😂😂
Quoting from the best orthopaedic ? Hmm where’s your reference their the best ? 😂😂
I’m the best doctor, now go jump the bridge 😂😂😂
My reference to my life and also women was to give people some background on why I want to do the surgery. I feel as if that is the only flaw in my life, I’m doing decent for my myself financially, have a girlfriend, and am comfortable with the rest of my body. I’m not trying to convince anyone of anything. Simply my height is the only thing that bothers me. Anyways you trying to use that as a point to disprove medical facts is a logical fallacy. Regardless of anything I’ve said from a different topic doesn’t prove your point.
My reference? Here is a video from dror paley the most experience like lengthening surgeon in the world saying how going over 5-6cm tibia and 7/8cm femur is very risky and also going over by a large margin will greatly damage your soft tissue and the risks involved that are likely to happen such as extreme loss of athletic ability, nerve damage, being in a wheelchair, etc
http://www.mheresearchfoundation.org/dror_paley.html
Now you go jump off a bridge you dumb pathetic f*ck
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could you show any science-based evidence such as study or newspaper about that? I didn't see any research tell that until now
http://www.mheresearchfoundation.org/dror_paley.html
Watch the video
This is by Dror Paley the most experience and best doctor in the world
However this is just one example. I don’t go off of one opinion even if it’s a credible source. Literally nearly every credible doctor from mahboubian to giotikas to debiparshad to solomin to parihar etc are in consensus going over 5-6cm in tibia and 8cm in femurs is very risky. Going over by a large margin like 8cm tibia Or 10cm femur will greatly damage your soft tissue, nerves, and athleticism. These are medical facts stated by all these doctors backed with research. Unless you are a drawf and have short bones with loads of extra soft tissue or a have a deformity and extra soft tissue (nerves joints tendons)
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My reference to my life and also women was to give people some background on why I want to do the surgery. I feel as if that is the only flaw in my life, I’m doing decent for my myself financially, have a girlfriend, and am comfortable with the rest of my body. I’m not trying to convince anyone of anything. Simply my height is the only thing that bothers me. Anyways you trying to use that as a point to disprove medical facts is a logical fallacy. Regardless of anything I’ve said from a different topic doesn’t prove your point.
My reference? Here is a video from dror paley the most experience like lengthening surgeon in the world saying how going over 5-6cm tibia and 7/8cm femur is very risky and also going over by a large margin will greatly damage your soft tissue and the risks involved that are likely to happen such as extreme loss of athletic ability, nerve damage, being in a wheelchair, etc
http://www.mheresearchfoundation.org/dror_paley.html
Now you go jump off a bridge you dumb pathetic f*ck
Let this idiot become crippled.He's not worth your time.
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how's lengthening going? I'm also curious if the doctor has performed any Achilles tendon release surgery for people going over 7-8cm
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Let this idiot become crippled.He's not worth your time.
Doubt he’s even lengthening hasn’t provided xrays or any proof.
I’m just trying to watch out for the newbies by commenting facts on these posts
When I very first found out about cll I too was gullible enough to believe posts like these and the amount you can lengthen
It’s probably a doctor or advertisement from the clinic or money scammers
These accounts are more than likely even the same person
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Doubt he’s even lengthening hasn’t provided xrays or any proof.
I’m just trying to watch out for the newbies by commenting facts on these posts
When I very first found out about cll I too was gullible enough to believe posts like these and the amount you can lengthen
It’s probably a doctor or advertisement from the clinic or money scammers
These accounts are more than likely even the same person
i bet you never do any LL before right ? I have posted my xray but you didnt catch up.
You always scare that u will fail , when everybody doing fine. I feel sorry for you , baby. Btw this is my dairy , i dont want to make war , if u dont believe , just leave.
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https://imgur.com/a/5q5eRsu for people who think this is fake, look at this , your life would be better if u start to believe
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My left leg is hurt right now :(( . Hard to move now
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https://youtu.be/Fy1oupcGYe4 this guy had done 10cm in tibia , what do you think
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https://imgur.com/a/Zd6fZkg Im doing cavles strech now
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10cm on tibias looks abnormally long to be honest
so you're doing the stretches by yourself without a physiotherapist? how's the pain currently and pin sites?
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https://youtu.be/Fy1oupcGYe4 this guy had done 10cm in tibia , what do you think
He received two surgeries and lengthened a total of 10 cm tibia, 5 cm at a time.
I think that is a reasonable approach. But you lengthened 10cm at a time.
No offense to you,
How is your ballerina foot while standing?
How long does your doctor think it takes for the bone to consolidate?
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He received two surgeries and lengthened a total of 10 cm tibia, 5 cm at a time.
I think that is a reasonable approach. But you lengthened 10cm at a time.
No offense to you,
How is your ballerina foot while standing?
How long does your doctor think it takes for the bone to consolidate?
thanks but i think just do 7-8cm , i just say 10 is maximum.
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10cm on tibias looks abnormally long to be honest
so you're doing the stretches by yourself without a physiotherapist? how's the pain currently and pin sites?
my pinsite still fine untill now . But my left feet is hurt at the bone , which make me hard to sleep at night . I usually sleep 2-3hours at night
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thanks but i think just do 7-8cm , i just say 10 is maximum.
OK, I think the tibia 7-8cm is challenging but not impossible. Good luck.
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OK, I think the tibia 7-8cm is challenging but not impossible. Good luck.
yeah ill keep update in this forum until i can walk normally , thank you.
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My left leg is too painful to sleep , I think ill took xray to check it :((
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Hey dung, who takes care of you during your lengthening?
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Hey dung, who takes care of you during your lengthening?
i hire a house keeper to help me 5 hours a day. Besides i live with another guys who also lengtheng and his mom.
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Hey dung, thanks for your response.
Can I contact you private somehow? Per e-mail or mobile number
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https://imgur.com/a/T4isyPP just took the xray today , feeling much better in mental for seeing this. btw still hard to sleep at night. left leg 1,9cm , right leg 1,5 cm
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https://imgur.com/a/0kI5Q9k here is 10cm in tibias , stupid. all of you say they cant length over 7cm is as same as eating after 8pm will make you fat. It just take longer time recover and healing.
I misunderstood that this was your picture.
Whose x-ray is this? Same hospital’s patient?
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I never reply here but read much. Just some questions.
How are you allowed to post the x-rays of somebody else?
And how did you get them?
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I never reply here but read much. Just some questions.
How are you allowed to post the x-rays of somebody else?
And how did you get them?
this from the another patient of my doctor. He agreed to public his face and result
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I misunderstood that this was your picture.
Whose x-ray is this? Same hospital’s patient?
yeah true
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yeah true
Thank you for answering.
I wish you successful LL.
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Thank you for answering.
I wish you successful LL.
thanks bro . My only problem until now is hard to sleep at night . Although I also takd medicine but no result
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How much does 10cm cost?
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How much does 10cm cost?
doctor only take money for cutting the bone , then you can lengthen at home. so it the same cost with 7-8cm , as long as your legs have good condition
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Hey Dung, I have sent you a private message
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Hey Dung, I have sent you a private message
yeah i reply it already
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Hi dunghuynn,
I found this thread (LON Tibia 8cm done in HCMC) very informative, so I would like to send it to you: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=3681.0. Hope it gives you more information and motivation. You have been through almost half of the journey bro. Time flies. We're rooting for you!
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https://imgur.com/a/OV8vRLz me standing at 3,6 cm
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https://youtu.be/Fy1oupcGYe4 this guy had done 10cm in tibia , what do you think
This Korean doctor have some bad reputation
so be careful to believe 10cmis done safely
In Korea there are like 5 or 6 clinics perming CLL and some clinics are not good at all
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My left leg is too painful to sleep , I think ill took xray to check it :((
Have you tried to make it more comfortable for your legs? Order 1-2 blankets and two different sized pillows (a small and a medium sized pillow). Tell someone to fold the blankets and put them at the end of the bed so that you can lie your tibias on top of them. But the blanket on top should have an even/smooth material so that whenever you move your legs you don't get stuck.
If possible turn on your side and put the pillow that fits best for you underneath the knee whose inside faces the bed. It helped me to sleep very good. Good luck.
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Have you tried to make it more comfortable for your legs? Order 1-2 blankets and two different sized pillows (a small and a medium sized pillow). Tell someone to fold the blankets and put them at the end of the bed so that you can lie your tibias on top of them. But the blanket on top should have an even/smooth material so that whenever you move your legs you don't get stuck.
If possible turn on your side and put the pillow that fits best for you underneath the knee whose inside faces the bed. It helped me to sleep very good. Good luck.
thank you , pain relief after 3rd week. Now i can sleep almost like normal
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my pin sites seem to have inflection. now i will take antibiotic for 3 days . maybe i have streched my achile and press my leg too hard so it put pressure to pinsite
https://imgur.com/a/sdgSoqs
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my pin sites seem to have inflection. now i will take antibiotic for 3 days . maybe i have streched my achile to strong and pressured to the pinsite
https://imgur.com/a/sdgSoqs
They don't look infected to me; they're not supposed to look like oil paintings! They look similar to how mine looked during lengthening and I never had an infection.
But if you have symptoms of an infection better safe than sorry I guess.
Good luck with the rest of your lengthening!
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https://imgur.com/gallery/YT4ET5H My xray
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After 5cm it 's really tough . My knees cannot fully extend and it feel super heavy that I cant raise my leg much. My sleep also getting worse , yesterday just sleep 2 hours. Im not at 5,5 cm.
I will stop lengthen in 1 day and practice , lets see what happens
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hello everyone , how everything going? Im almost finish the distraction phase and i will remove the fame in 10 days. which mean i will reach 7cm. I will stop because my leg is so heavy and feel pain all the time now , cant wait to take the fame off.
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Yea I’m currently 1.68, doctor recommended 7cm but I’ll try to do 9cm.. how tall were you when you started? Also, they take credit cards too.. so that’s a plus haha
sorry for late reply , im starting at 162cm and finish at 169cm , still short but over the average here (164cm)
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How are you getting your physiotherapy done? From my knowledge you'll get bad equinus without pt for >5cm lenghtening
its depend on your flexibility before surgery and streching process in distraction phase. im do it by my self at home
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Thank you for sharing! You're doing great! :)
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I removed the fame yesterday . It was terrible , my leg is so heavy and i cant not sleep a single minute. Dr say it would be so much cổmtable after remove the frame but i dont think so , it feel like someone sit on my leg. I hope the pain will reduce after 3-4 days.
https://imgur.com/gallery/OX2RV14
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Wow 7cm in tibia!! You did it man!! Congrats!!
Pain will reduce everyday. Just 3-4 days will be tough. After that, you are free from frames and free to walk! (of course, it will take time to walk well. but you will get there.)
Hang in there just for another moment!!
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https://imgur.com/gallery/CAEVhuJ Im start walking now , after 2 weeks of frame removal. Right leg have little equinus
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https://imgur.com/gallery/Ojq9F7v
In walking un supported now . After 3 weeks and 3 days of 2nd surgery .
Im not using crutches yet . I have some muscle tightness and numb in my left ankle.
Im focus on exercies which strengthen my knees, calfs and streching my achille tendon now
Still have little equinus on right feet but i hope it will decrease soon .
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That's some good development to walk unaided in three weeks, can you post you recent xray and are following any PT for workouts or working on your own?/
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That's some good development to walk unaided in three weeks, can you post you recent xray and are following any PT for workouts or working on your own?/
https://sites.google.com/site/activecarephysiotherapyclinic/ankle-foot-exercises here are some suggest excercise for and ankle before standing and walking
and here after you can walking follow these exercises, very helpful
https://youtu.be/dqjl8VLhJh0
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Good luck Dung
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https://imgur.com/gallery/xVcbYU8
Im already walking now. My foot is flat now after many hours of stretching. I feel numb and hurt at my left ankle sometime. Hope it decrease soon
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https://imgur.com/gallery/xVcbYU8
Im already walking now. My foot is flat now after many hours of stretching. I feel numb and hurt at my left ankle sometime. Hope it decrease soon
Pronation of your left foot is quite severe and this is probably causing the pain
Misalignment can produce long term problems such as arthritis
Pronation cause flat foot also
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Pronation of your left foot is quite severe and this is probably causing the pain
Misalignment can produce long term problems such as arthritis
Pronation cause flat foot also
yeah I have flat foot already.
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You may need to fix alignment of fibulas and tibias
May need to cut fibula
If tibias got rotational deformities, need to fix it by another surgery
Problems of ankles and feet can lead to joint pains of knees and spines in a long term
It should not be ignored
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You may need to fix alignment of fibulas and tibias
May need to cut fibula
If tibias got rotational deformities, need to fix it by another surgery
Problems of ankles and feet can lead to joint pains of knees and spines in a long term
It should not be ignored
i live well with my feet 24 years , I can play all sport included running , spinning without any problem. I just use bare foot at home so dont worry much.
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Temaki, he was flat footed to begin with I think. So how can you tell if the surgery caused flat foot?
And I think the last time dunghuynh2227 mentioned "flat" he meant no equinus.
Thanks for the video dunghuynh2227. Wishing you a great recovery mate!
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Temaki, he was flat footed to begin with I think. So how can you tell if the surgery caused flat foot?
And I think the last time dunghuynh2227 mentioned "flat" he meant no equinus.
Thanks for the video dunghuynh2227. Wishing you a great recovery mate!
He clearly wrote:
My foot is flat now after many hours of stretching. I feel numb and hurt at my left ankle sometime. Hope it decrease soon
I’m not talking about equinus
Pronation is a different problem
If you are that serious about CLL, why don’t you at least look up google and learn things instead of just following me.
https://boneandspine.com/overpronation-of-foot/
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He clearly wrote:
My foot is flat now after many hours of stretching. I feel numb and hurt at my left ankle sometime. Hope it decrease soon
I’m not talking about equinus
Pronation is a different problem
Temaki, I know pronation is different than equinus. But when he said "My foot is flat now after many hours of stretching" I think he meant flat = equinus gone. Notice that he says "after many hours of stretching". This is the correct way removing equinus. Pronation is not removed by stretching as you may know.
Anyway my first question is how do you know he didn't have flat feet (not talking equinus here but literal "flat soles") before LL? I also see that he has flat soles in the barefoot video, but maybe he had it before LL also?
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Crazy how come you don’t read what he wrote
He says it’s flat AFTER many hours of stretching
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Patients at Donghoon are doing really long hours of stretching
BUt NO ONE got these pronation and flat foot problems
I suspect there are misalignments of tibias and fibulas with those problems
Especially these doctors who don’t fix fibulas, they are not aware of the risks
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Crazy how come you don’t read what he wrote
He says it’s flat AFTER many hours of stretching
Yes I read that. How come you don't read what I wrote? I was thinking he meant "equinus gone" when he wrote that. Can you re-read what I wrote a few more times?
Anyway I think it's rude to argue on someone else's diary. And to bring up DongHoon in this is not really right. dunghuynh2227 went to a surgeon he liked and could afford and his LL is done.
If you are that serious about CLL, why don’t you at least look up google and learn things instead of just following me.
https://boneandspine.com/overpronation-of-foot/
I Googled it. Didn't I tell you I know what pronation means? ;)
I am curious to know. Are you a native English speaker? Are you pasting from Google translate? Your writing seems extremely strange to read.
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Temaki, I know pronation is different than equinus. But when he said "My foot is flat now after many hours of stretching" I think he meant flat = equinus gone. Notice that he says "after many hours of stretching". This is the correct way removing equinus. Pronation is not removed by stretching as you may know.
Anyway my first question is how do you know he didn't have flat feet (not talking equinus here but literal "flat soles") before LL? I also see that he has flat soles in the barefoot video, but maybe he had it before LL also?
yeah you are right. When i said my feet is flat now it mean equinus gone. But I also have flat-foot before the surgery and I live well with it for many years. Maybe he misunderstand because of my terrible writing skills .
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yeah you are right. When i said my feet is flat now it mean equinus gone. But I also have flat-foot before the surgery and I live well with it for many years. Maybe he misunderstand because of my terrible writing skills .
Thanks for clarifying dunghuynh2227 ::)
It's hard to explain to Temaki who already made up his mind on the topic.
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yeah you are right. When i said my feet is flat now it mean equinus gone. But I also have flat-foot before the surgery and I live well with it for many years. Maybe he misunderstand because of my terrible writing skills .
Ok you meant no BF
Then my concern now is:
I feel numb and hurt at my left ankle sometime. Hope it decrease soon
From your walking video, it looks the pronation is quite severe and I suspect this maybe causing pains
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Thanks for clarifying dunghuynh2227 ::)
It's hard to explain to Temaki who already made up his mind on the topic.
You know the other Indian guy, who had the same severe pronation and flat feet after the surgery with Pili
You are from India, haven’t you met him yet?
These conditions are not something small to ignore
Why don’t you get alerted after knowing that case
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Ok you meant no BF
Then my concern now is:
I feel numb and hurt at my left ankle sometime. Hope it decrease soon
From your walking video, it looks the pronation is quite severe and I suspect this maybe causing pains
it because of nerves . It start from my toe to font side of the ankle . When i walk and put heavy force on it , it hurt . Maybe the muscle is not strong enough . And i think my leg need more time to recovery.
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I see, you feel the nerve damage is producing pains
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Don't worry , I also take xray regularly for my Dr to check if any thing happen so I believe the surgery doesn't cause any deformity.
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If the pain is due to misalignment, it can be fixed by surgery
But if it’s due to nerve damage, did your doctor tell you how he gonna treat it?
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If the pain is due to misalignment, it can be fixed by surgery
But if it’s due to nerve damage, did your doctor tell you how he gonna treat it?
he said it’s a apart of the lengthen process so everyone have to accept it. I know it true because I have 3 friends also do LL at same time to me but they have different sign of pains which I dont have. maybe it depends on individual. I just hope it will decrease soon , I know its not the fault of Dr
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I see, you just removed frames a month ago
Pain should be gone in a few more months
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Im practice walking upstair and downstair now. up stair is easier than downstair because walking downstair you have to hold the knee bending, my knee is still weak so it quite difficult. My goal is take back flexibility and strength and range of movement of knees and ankles.
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https://imgur.com/gallery/m84sAEG Hit the gym today
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https://imgur.com/gallery/m84sAEG Hit the gym today
Good to see you back in gym, are you walking unassisted now? are you following any PT or doing it yourself?
how many days did you rest after frame removal?
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Good to see you back in gym, are you walking unassisted now? are you following any PT or doing it yourself?
how many days did you rest after frame removal?
yes most of the time i walk unassisted. Just use crutches for long distance. I practiced myself.
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yes most of the time i walk unassisted. Just use crutches for long distance. I practiced myself.
How many days did you rest after frame removal, when did you start walking after frame removal?
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How many days did you rest after frame removal, when did you start walking after frame removal?
i rest 2 weeks then start walking with the walker.
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Can you post your xrays please guess you haven't posted them from your frame removal, it be helpful for me to cross check with my own
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Can you post your xrays please guess you haven't posted them from your frame removal, it be helpful for me to cross check with my own
https://imgur.com/gallery/jEg6XAi here my friend , 6 weeks after frame removal
Now I already walk with no crutches. Im back to normal life , but when i walk it still hurt in ankles. Maybe it not strong enough. I still hit the gym 5 days a week and gain muscle in my legs
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your callus look good congrats that you walking without your crutches already thanks for sharing xray
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https://imgur.com/gallery/lFU6eZ9 Im deadlift now , cannot run yet but i never like cardio anyway 😋😋😋
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pretty cool! why cant you run? does it pain?
can you walk for many miles without tiring? can you stand for hours? show us more exercise videos1
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Im not run yet but walking long distance and standing is easy .
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I just checked my running. Just short distance about 20m with low knee raise .
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https://imgur.com/gallery/lFU6eZ9 Im deadlift now , cannot run yet but i never like cardio anyway 😋😋😋
thats awesome man, did you do any xray lately?
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I did take in feb , maybe after the quanratine time i will take xray again
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https://imgur.com/gallery/HwAfSlr After 1 year . Im enjoy my new life , take my body back .
I have some advice for u guys:
Stretching and excercies is very important . It decide your recovery process takes long time or not. Specially in the achille tendon. Weight trainning and resistence training can make you heal quicker. In vietnam they only provide LON in tibias , no more. Im waiting for stryde to start Femur 5-7cm . Maybe in next few years you can see another diary from me . Thanks alot for reading
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https://imgur.com/gallery/HwAfSlr After 1 year . Im enjoy my new life , take my body back .
I have some advice for u guys:
Stretching and excercies is very important . It decide your recovery process takes long time or not. Specially in the achille tendon. Weight trainning and resistence training can make you heal quicker. In vietnam they only provide LON in tibias , no more. Im waiting for stryde to start Femur 5-7cm . Maybe in next few years you can see another diary from me . Thanks alot for reading
damn you look like a superhero caricature son
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nice bro. Im feelng happy to see great results from developing countries. I think without scars noone be able to tell you did LL.
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Looks great! Do you still have pain when walking or has it gone back to normal?
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https://imgur.com/gallery/HwAfSlr After 1 year .
Hi dunghuynh2227,
you look gangsta bro... Amazing physique.
Regards
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I came to that pic.
I think after 6cm femur, I would turn gay for you.
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Hi dunghuynh, could you show a video of how you walk now? Very curious!
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Hey man you look great
.....so happy for you!!
Can you post a video update , showing your running and other athletic ability....while hiding your face....check out movie's diary for reference....
I'm so curious to watch such am update....you look amazing....
Best wishes!
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hello guys , i posted my video here https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSJ5AbSaX/ , lated video which i ran on treadmil . i almost back to normal , but i didnt stretch my thigh well so it still a have little tightness ( it normal for regular person but i want my flexibility better than average ) , so my goal now is keep stretching it and wait for internal femur avalible in Vietnam :D .
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hello guys , i posted my video here https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSJ5AbSaX/ , lated video which i ran on treadmil . i almost back to normal , but i didnt stretch my thigh well so it still a have little tightness ( it normal for regular person but i want my flexibility better than average ) , so my goal now is keep stretching it and wait for internal femur avalible in Vietnam :D .
woah that's amazing man. excellent running form too. I'm speechless at your progress brother
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Looking great brother, what was your starting of height. Your height before surgery?
And how much did you Lengthen your tibia? 7-8cm? The safe limit was 5-6cm so I’m surprised.
Also do you plan on doing a second surgery on your femurs? 8cm? Internal ?
Please reply thank you
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thánks , im 162 at begin and 169 when finish . im also planning on femur 7cm too.
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When are u planning on femurs? Isnt 169 pretty tall in your country?
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thánks , im 162 at begin and 169 when finish . im also planning on femur 7cm too.
Any idea when you will do the surgery on femurs?
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Also what was your age when you did the surgery.
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sorry for late reply, i enjoy my life too much that almost forget updating. i was 24 when i did tibia, today is exactly 3 years after i removed the nail. https://youtube.com/shorts/sxAmLp4k_b0?feature=share i have channel about recovery here in case you guy need it. im not active on forum much so any concern you can contact me via email: dungdaica456@gmail.com or whatassp: +601151285805. thank you
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If you have recent imaging data please put it at this thread. Redact any information that could be used to dox you.
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Any update?