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Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Patients Experiences => Topic started by: Meck on October 21, 2019, 05:35:30 PM
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Hello everyone, today i buy plane ticket for Istanbul, in monday 28.10. 2019 i have LON femur, 7 days from now.
Im 164cm 75kg, my goal is 179cm with femur and tibia, if all be ok in 6-7 month i hope to made tibia. I have a lot of will and i hope everything will be fine. Any advice will be more than welcome
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I just done my operation before 2 hours, i will post soon all details
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Ty for your diary man good luck! i wish you a perfect recovery!
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Hi Meck
Wow congrats on making your journey! Femur LON should be tough but I heard ppl in Turkey is doing femur LON. It will be very hard and painful for the first 2-3 weeks after the surgery. Stay strong!
Wish you the very successful journey!
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Still i canot write nothing, i made before 24 hours ooeration and still i feel lot of pain, pain killers not help much, i think tomorow will be better
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Yeah, it is generally really hard to endure pain for first 2-3 weeks after surgery. But you will feel better and better. Just hang in there. Don't expect too much or move too much for a couple of weeks. Just take care of yourself!
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First day when thet operate me, I sleep and i wake up in 6 hours i shake to much because wass very very cold in operation room, my knee hurt me to much, sameone tiet up bandage to much i feel pain all over by body, im not sleep all night, second day i wallk 5 metters and i feel cold sweet on all over by body and i feel dissy, pain not stop, day after i try wallk and i get into shook feel cold dissy ans i actually wallk 10 metter but get into shook pain killer not help, that is yesterday. Doctor came and remove bandage from my kneee and catheter to i can pee normal without pipe, 10min after that i feel like new man, no pain and all is ok. In night, last night i feel litle pain but painkiller fix easy, yesterday all day im not use because im not feel the pain until night time. Today doctor came and i wallk 10 metter without any issue, now i wallk again alone into toilet and i all fine, im not use painkiller and im not feel the pain, i start eat normally and i get power from the food, they took 2x xray and is all fine. Doctor say never see sameone wallk same day and day after, but i fight to wallk and s now 3 days after i wallk normal just slow and im not feel the pain. Main issue i have with bandage to much tiet up and my blood stop in my legs, i think I will be fine and I will kepp update
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Who was the doctor and how much did you pay?
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Dr Halil Buldu in Istabul and for sure i can say he is the best, very frendly face and he help all time i fuuly trust him when i came into 6 month for tibia, find him on google have his number and see for the price i canot write price because im not alowed to do that, sory
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Here is the doctor he talked about:
https://www.wannabetaller.com/leg-lengthening-surgery-surgeons/lengthening-surgeons-op-dr-halil-buldu/
LON method:
https://www.wannabetaller.com/limb-lengthening-surgery-methods/lon-method/
The cost of LON on their website:
At the moment, the cost for a single bilateral (Both Legs) surgery, either on the “femoral” or “Tibial” bones for leg lengthening, with ” LON ” Methodology is currently priced at around: (€) 17,000 Euros. (valid till 31 Dec 2019) .
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The most difficult thing is to decide and then to have surgery. Congratulations, You did the first part. I wish everything would be nice. We're both at the beginning of the process. I hope we achieve our goals.
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Thx sopranos i hope we will, today i leave hospital and move into Hotel , so 5 days after operation i transfer into hotel and i buy plane ticket for Thursday morning to fly home, i hope all will be fine , for now i have no pain and i start lengethening first tiime in Monday
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First time without hospital, im not sleep almost all night because i have pain 8/10 i have no painkiller here and im tired up my legs when move into hotel now i feel massive pain ans i canot sleep at all, i hope morning will be better, oh this is crazy 🤪 anyone's have any advice please l, did i to early leave hospital?
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After 5 days stay in hotel i decide to go home, i made plan,pay ticket and tell my doctor to give me morphin. In morning i use morphin and go on airport l, I made mistake becasue im not eat, first shook i get on airport I lose picture and cold all over by body, than i eat only litle and became much better, picture came on my eyes, i wallk about 5km on airport, second shook push me in the plane ✈, i find 3 empty seats and try sleep i feel much better 10min later, finally I get in my country and now im home, here i feel much better and i continue lengthening 1mm per day
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Keep going man!!
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Today is 3 weeks and one day from my operation, righr leg is perfect no pain at all 0/10 but left leg knee have deep pain 6/10 first only night time, before 2 days start also day time pain me 7 /10 and pain not stop in left leg, i need to know when pain will gone also from left leg because this pain is crazy, pills not help
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Hello everyone , today i made xray , my old fixator not work and 17 days only my left leg is works , i change fixator and today made xray and now both legs works, now only i must made 2 mm per day on my right leg 3 days to catch up left, Im in left 3.2cm and on right 2,5 cm
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Hello Meck,
Thanks for updating. Your bones seem to be not straight at bone break site. Maybe you want to cross check with your doctor?
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Hello Merck, congrats on starting your journey! How did you contact the doctor? I sent a message from the official website but no answers yet.
Cheers and good luck :)
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Hi write on google dr Halil Buldu and will pop up his profile with phone and add him on what's up, he is really best of the best
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I notice also cutting zone is not similar bur i think this not made me any issue
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Hello, everyone today about 50 days gone from my surgery
I still wallk slowly and sametime is pain but is normal, all inside my legs grow and nerve pain must be. I need to ask sameone who already made femur and tibia together, is the right choose when i in end on February remove fixators from femur to i made same day tibia lentening or is better wait, im not scared or similar, for me is easy but what is the better idea
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Best to wait for consolidation which can take months.
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But is possible made titbia, when i remove fixators from femur, i will handle pain and what else i just to know did sameone made it before and is danger?
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Hello everyone, i reach 5.8 cm on femur for now, my goal will be 10cm, and when i remove fixators i made tibia sam day, Can anyone post picture of LON tibia to i check what wait me soon
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Congrats on making almost 6cm! However, I strongly recommend you not to go over 8 cm. I think 8 cm is pretty much max for anyone's femurs.
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Thx for advice, can please explain me why is 8cm max im new in this and i search few days fir this operation only and decide to do.For now i feel file almost 6cm i take sametime pause 2 days, situation is not ideal because i have metal on my legs but all other i feel fine, i need to know what happen if i lengthening 10cm on femur and is ok to i made tibia same day now in February when remove femur, for me is ok to made all now, why wait only to change my mind
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Hi Meck
I am not a doctor for cll so I have a very limited knowledge and experience. However, I have been in this forum for a long time, did cll and met many patients. 10cm for femurs is absolutely too much. Up to 5-6 cm lengthening in femurs is not too hard but it will get worse and worse very dramatically after 7cm. You will feel really tight and may feel nerve pain due to the lengthening. It will take much longer for you to recover from 10 cm as compared to 8cm. I know there are some patients who did 10cm in femurs. But, it is really not a good idea to take a huge risk for additional 2cm.
Regarding tibia, looks like you are planning to lengthen tibia, right? In theory, you can get both surgeries on the same operation day. One is to remove your nail/fixator in femurs and to insert the same device into your tibias. That is technically possible. However, I strongly DO NOT recommend you to do this. Femurs and tibias are not separated. They are all connected by muscle, nerve, blood vessels, and other types of tissues. You have already lengthened a huge amount in femurs so your tibias do not have enough capacity to lengthen. It will be much harder for you to lengthen 5cm in tibias, as compared to new patients who are doing tibias only. I think it may be even not possible to lengthen 5cm in tibias in your case.
Because of that, most of patients go back home and recover after femur surgery and come back again for tibia after more than a year. Some patients did lengthening on both segments (femurs and tibias). In that case, they aimed at much less amount for each segment, like 5-6 cm in femurs and 4-5cm in tibias. There should be a lot of reason why people can do this much not like 10 cm in femurs and 8cm in tibias at the same time. You are not different from other people. Stay realistic.
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Hi everybody , yesterday i made xray, is about 5.5cm so far so good
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hey,
can i contact you on whatsapp? I would like to get some information about LON method.
Best luck and wishes with your lengthening bro
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I write you i pm my phone whats up and thx
Ghostfish, you really help me with that info, maybe I will wait for the tibia but i have will to made now to finish all this once for all
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Hello,
I did the same operation a few weeks later then you.
Lon with monorail with Halil Buldu.
I am very happy to meet someone who has had surgery like me.
I also plan to write my experience post.
Can you tell me when you walk you feel clicks / crunch in the legs?
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Yess than click sound i fix i have video how to fix easy if you have same fixators like me i will send you video my whats up is +387603127652 write me there we can share experience i will do also tibia soon
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Hey Meck, did you have to see a doctor regularly when lengthening at home? or just sending updates and xrays to the doctor via email and stuff?
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No need for visit doctor only every monthi made xray and send my doctor, that all
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Hello everyone i reach more than 7.5 cm on femur i hope i will can get up to 9, Right now i stop lengthening because my muscle is very very tight now and i feel pain when try move i need relax 3 days than start again, My femurs is to long now
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Glad you are ok, I think the reason they all look so long is because of the lack of muscle...so it should get better in time...
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Hello everyone , today i made xray and i finish my lenthening for femur i reach 9.4cm, and in monday 7 days from now i have tibia surgery and remove device from femur same day , i will made few pic after tibia done , my goal on tibia is 8.5 to be totally 18 cm and im not go bellow that
I hope all will be fine because im not wait for tibia
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Hi Meck,
your femur looks real long, nice man. congratulation!!
wish your callus form fast and you'll recover soon.
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Thx mate, I feel great also I'm now 10cm taller and im on half way only, is fantastic
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I made tatto my arm to remeber this when i start lenthening femur and tibia
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Thx mate, I feel great also I'm now 10cm taller and im on half way only, is fantastic
Impressive gains, Meck!
How are your legs feeling?
Are you ready for the tibias?
Don’t you think that 8.5 on tibias is a lot to ask for in one round after just lengthening almost 10cm on femurs?
Please keep us updated. Congrats on your achievements!
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Thx mate, many they say is danger made without wait femur to heal but i will try, and if i can i will do 8.5 on tibia, maybe I will canot, never know but I will try , for now i feel fine I wallk with crouches and is ok
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Really hope you reconsider the amount you want to lengthen right now. If you really want that amount than maybe you can do 4-5cm now and come back in a few years for another 4-5cm. Thats way safer than going all in on tibias. That would be similar to what Paley is offering in one of his options.
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Thx mate, many they say is danger made without wait femur to heal but i will try, and if i can i will do 8.5 on tibia, maybe I will canot, never know but I will try , for now i feel fine I wallk with crouches and is ok
So what you will try to do, is basically start lengthening tibia once you get the femur frames off, correct?
Please keep a diary of the process, thanks in advance and good luck!
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Yess right now i have fixators on femur and in 6 days i made tibia LON and remove fixators from femur, i will post picture when done and keep diary update with tibia how is going, i actually start like the pain and i think i will made 8.5. When I made tatto pain to much legs and tatoo because I sit for days into one possition until tatoo done but better do all now and enjoy after than made half tibia than again half in few years or month's, that is my opinion
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Yess right now i have fixators on femur and in 6 days i made tibia LON and remove fixators from femur, i will post picture when done and keep diary update with tibia how is going, i actually start like the pain and i think i will made 8.5. When I made tatto pain to much legs and tatoo because I sit for days into one possition until tatoo done but better do all now and enjoy after than made half tibia than again half in few years or month's, that is my opinion
Thank you man, good luck with all that!
By the way, what did your doctor said about doing Tibia right after finishing lengthening on the femur?
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I can sit normal, not lose knee space movements and he say I'm ready for tibia because my knees is ok and I wallk normal
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Yess right now i have fixators on femur and in 6 days i made tibia LON and remove fixators from femur, i will post picture when done and keep diary update with tibia how is going, i actually start like the pain and i think i will made 8.5. When I made tatto pain to much legs and tatoo because I sit for days into one possition until tatoo done but better do all now and enjoy after than made half tibia than again half in few years or month's, that is my opinion
Well... If this is what you think is the best option for you then all I can say is good luck and I hope everything goes as you plan! Also, I’m very intrigued to see how this is gonna go. I’m sure that if you follow all your doctor’s instructions and stay on top of physio, then everything will go well.
Hope you have a great journey, and I’ll be following this diary very closely. So if you could keep uploading pictures that would be great!
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Hello everyone , today i made xray and i finish my lenthening for femur i reach 9.4cm, and in monday 7 days from now i have tibia surgery and remove device from femur same day , i will made few pic after tibia done , my goal on tibia is 8.5 to be totally 18 cm and im not go bellow that
I hope all will be fine because im not wait for tibia
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Hey man, i would really reconsider doing tibias with those frames. The alignment on those femurs is way off. Have you got a standing xray of your full legs to check for alignment of hips, knees, and ankles? Its very important to keep near perfect alignment to prevent bow legs or x-legs.
I might be wrong but looking at just these xrays i suspect you will have bow legs. The problem will most likely get worse if you do tibias with these same fixators that have no way of correcting the angle of the bones.
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Wishing you luck my man, I got it done and it was life changing. ALthough I only needed a 2inch fix because I had a height imbalance.
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Jim_dabarber@ even right now i can put my legs together close one by one and have not even 1cm emtpy space between my legs, so bow legs is not possible because if I can do now, when remove fixators from femur I will reborn
Before I do brake dance and my legs are very strong, belive me i will success, because I believe in myself
Cyborg4life@ thx so much is really life changed even now when im almost 10cm taller, i can imagine when tibia done, my life will be much much better l, because short height is sickness and is sillent killer for everyone us here
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I have strange deep pain inside my legs in emtpy space between my bone, before when I lengthening this pain is not present
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I have strange deep pain inside my legs in emtpy space between my bone, before when I lengthening this pain is not present
maybe its the muscles and nerves streching?
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Your bone are align? I doubt
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How you mean? not understand
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How you mean? not understand
Bone doesn't look straight,
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Monday is coming in 2 days and i feel litle scray , in same day i remove femur fixators and made tibia LON surgery, right now i feel pain deep inside my femur where is empty space between bone , but i fix pain with tramadol, i hope this tibia will not pain me a lot because i lose all power in this almost 4 mounths with femur lenthening, i will notice in monday what will happen
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How much centimeters are you considering on tibia?
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Min is 7.5 , my goal is 8.5 or 8 , im not go below this numbers i hope 18 cm from both surgery , right now i reach 9.4
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Min is 7.5 , my goal is 8.5 or 8 , im not go below this numbers i hope 18 cm from both surgery , right now i reach 9.4
Ooooooooo this is huge, your doctor is agree?
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Yess doctor say im strong because i can sit now normal with femur frame inside my legs , im not lose knee space and that is important , but i feel tired from femur i just wait to remove device and put in tibia , i hope tibia will be less stress and pain
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Yess doctor say im strong because i can sit now normal with femur frame inside my legs , im not lose knee space and that is important , but i feel tired from femur i just wait to remove device and put in tibia , i hope tibia will be less stress and pain
Do you recommend that doctor? Whats your thoughts about him?
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I totally trust him , thats way i made now tibia after femur and i hope all will be fine
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I totally trust him , thats way i made now tibia after femur and i hope all will be fine
i know you're not allowed but can you at least give me a hint on how much did you pay? around 80k usd?
and your LL is only with internal fixators right?
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Hello Meck,
How’s everything? Are you feeling ready for the tibia lengthening?
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Hi mate , is hard to explain, in same moment im ready because i know femur device will be removed and i will be able to sleep on side, than is same moment i feel litle scary when he remove femur to made tibia , because i know i must again 4 month almost been with this device on my legs and i worry because i have pain deep inside my femur. But i will do surgery no matter what happen in monday 8 am i start , when is done if is all ok i will post picture of my new device and scars from femur. I decide to go on 18cm with all my power
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Hi mate , is hard to explain, in same moment im ready because i know femur device will be removed and i will be able to sleep on side, than is same moment i feel litle scary when he remove femur to made tibia , because i know i must again 4 month almost been with this device on my legs and i worry because i have pain deep inside my femur. But i will do surgery no matter what happen in monday 8 am i start , when is done if is all ok i will post picture of my new device and scars from femur. I decide to go on 18cm with all my power
Try to lengthen as much as your body lets you, don’t try to surpass that. Your legs being healthy and safe should be your first priority.
What did your doctor say about you wanting to lengthen 8.5cm tibia right after you just lengthened almost 10cm on femur?
Didn’t he warn you that there might be a bigger chance of complications if you lengthen so much, in such a short amount of time?
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Try to lengthen as much as your body lets you, don’t try to surpass that. Your legs being healthy and safe should be your first priority.
What did your doctor say about you wanting to lengthen 8.5cm tibia right after you just lengthened almost 10cm on femur?
Didn’t he warn you that there might be a bigger chance of complications if you lengthen so much, in such a short amount of time?
thats what i dont understand as well. how is that doctor lets him to lengthen this much after in this short period of time between surgeries? he friggin did nearly 10 cm in his femur and 1 or 2 months later tibia with 8 cm? alright its possible but shouldnt there be like at least a year in between?
i really dont get that. seems like that doctor is craving for some money? or did he warn the patient already but patient insist on doing it?
and is it possible to do an another LL before consolidation is complete?
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thats what i dont understand as well. how is that doctor lets him to lengthen this much after in this short period of time between surgeries? he friggin did nearly 10 cm in his femur and 1 or 2 months later tibia with 8 cm? alright its possible but shouldnt there be like at least a year in between?
i really dont get that. seems like that doctor is craving for some money? or did he warn the patient already but patient insist on doing it?
and is it possible to do an another LL before consolidation is complete?
He is using externals but I understand that with pure internals one could go for the second surgery like 3 weeks after the first one (if all is ok), so you are basically lengthening all bones quite at the same time.
I suppose every person's body is different...same as with the Dr opinion, experience, etc...
Obviously, I think how much you want to lengthen is also taken into the equation... :o
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I just have done tibia lon before 30 min i wake up , stil canot write nothing, i feel pain
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I just have done tibia lon before 30 min i wake up , stil canot write nothing, i feel pain
man you crazy! how much are you gonna lenghten the tibia now? can you tell a bit more about your doctor when you're ok?
hope all will be fine for you bro, keep going!
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man you crazy! how much are you gonna lenghten the tibia now? can you tell a bit more about your doctor when you're ok?
hope all will be fine for you bro, keep going!
Why do people do this lol. Why tell him keep going when he clearly is outside of the safe limits of lengthening both femurs and Tibia. Could’ve sworn when doing both after watching paley and Dr R videos, the same limit on adults when doing both sections is 6 and 5 max. Which is 11cm .
So why is this person saying 18cm. Everyone body is NOT that different....
He needs to chill out and listen to his body. he’s way out the safe zone.
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Why do people do this lol. Why tell him keep going when he clearly is outside of the safe limits of lengthening both femurs and Tibia. Could’ve sworn when doing both after watching paley and Dr R videos, the same limit on adults when doing both sections is 6 and 5 max. Which is 11cm .
So why is this person saying 18cm. Everyone body is NOT that different....
He needs to chill out and listen to his body. he’s way out the safe zone.
well obviously he's out of the surgery now, what else i can say? no options rather than being positive towards him now,
maybe he will pull it off, MyEvolution did it, though he's been to the best doctor.. and he used stryde for himself, and put a whole year in between, this guy is using a different method and there is much less time in between the surgeries..
and i think you can go more on the femurs, 1 or 2 cm's more ( only if you really pay attention to stretching exercises ) but the safe limit is max 6 on the tibia i've heard and read.
yeah this guy is totally insane, but thats what i was wondering before, why his doctor lets him to go beyond his safe zone?
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Tomorow i will post pic with laotop and fur sure i will made 17-18cm,@cam007 you say 11 on boht I already finished femur wirh 9.4 so be sure i will do tibia to more than 7.5 or more,watch and see, you don't know me at all mate
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Tomorow i will post pic with laotop and fur sure i will made 17-18cm,@cam007 you say 11 on boht I already finished femur wirh 9.4 so be sure i will do tibia to more than 7.5 or more,watch and see, you don't know me at all mate
Bro your body isn’t THAT different from every other male your height. 9.5cm on femurs , doesn’t even make sense. The body’s soft tissues only have a certain amount they can stretch and then you’re basically going to leave it enlongated. So what’s the point of 18cm if you practically securing a wheelchair future.
Even on dwarfs the max safe limit they have did and advocated was 13cm...
So no people shouldn’t be hyping you lol.
All power to you though hope you have a recovery that lets you do normal things .
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I measured before 163 now 172.5, after I reach 9 cm I wallk with crouches but I put down crouches and i wallk normal without any help at home i use crouches only when go outside, so i think now when device is removed will be more easy to do.Dont know why paople say is danger i made successfully, and i measure my wingspan is 176 so I will looks ok with 18cm. Please give me a chance to i made and prove that can be done
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I measured before 163 now 172.5, after I reach 9 cm I wallk with crouches but I put down crouches and i wallk normal without any help at home i use crouches only when go outside, so i think now when device is removed will be more easy to do.Dont know why paople say is danger i made successfully, and i measure my wingspan is 176 so I will looks ok with 18cm. Please give me a chance to i made and prove that can be done
I’m not doubting you want to get it done or that you are going to get it done. I’m speaking on the amount of danger you are doing to yourself by going farther then almost all doctors state is normal recovery level.
I’m not knocking you though. Do you. I just don’t think people should hype you up when you’re doing something even more dangerous in an already dangerous surgery.
But it looks like your mind is made up. So hope you have a good recovery man!
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This is the picture of tibia LON, femur fixator is removed, doctor not yet send me xray
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This is the picture of tibia LON, femur fixator is removed, doctor not yet send me xray
i hate tibia and tibia pain, this looks like its going to be a little harder for you. i really hope everything will turn out to be perfect for you man, but really, please dont go over 6 cm on tibia, you already have to do a lots of stretching!
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Doctor not put internal device into my tibia , when i came to lock with screew he will put internal device and lock with screew, he say is better like this for now to not demage bone until femur not heal , here pictures
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Bro your body isn’t THAT different from every other male your height. 9.5cm on femurs , doesn’t even make sense. The body’s soft tissues only have a certain amount they can stretch and then you’re basically going to leave it enlongated. So what’s the point of 18cm if you practically securing a wheelchair future.
Why he did secure a wheelchair future if right now he can walk with 9.5 cm?
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Even on dwarfs the max safe limit they have did and advocated was 13cm...
So no people shouldn’t be hyping you lol.
Cam... buddy... you really must keep looking for better sources, since this statement of yours is a big lie. I really would like to see where you are getting all this info from. Anywho, regarding 13cm being the absolute max... well this is just not true.
Since I’ve read many of your comments in the past few days, on many different threads, clearly you are a man who likes to be shown some type of proof. Well, I can assure you that 13cm is definitely not the max, since even Dr. Paley himself has an option(option 5, if you would like to take a look), where he suggests 16cm, stating that it’s one of the safest options of all 5. I agree that his approach to this height is very different from Paley’s option, where you lengthen both segments 4cm each, three weeks apart and after 1-1.5 years later, you repeat the process. This method is just crazy bunkers since he’s trying to lengthen both segments passing the safety limits, and all this at once. But right now I’m addressing your comment of 13cm being the absolute max you can lengthen. Meck clearly has made up his mind, disregarding my advice to take a different approach, so all we can do now is hope for the best results and who knows, maybe he’ll pull it through and leave is all with open mouths. My point now is that it’s better for his mental health to get in the forum and see that we are rooting for him and we hope he makes it through. By doing this, I personally believe, it will indirectly impact his recovery in a positive way,
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Doctor not put internal device into my tibia , when i came to lock with screew he will put internal device and lock with screew, he say is better like this for now to not demage bone until femur not heal , here pictures
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Meck, right now it just seems like he’s performed the holy fix method which will most likely cause a misalignment, which you can kinda see it already, but I believe once they insert the internal nail it will straighten it out. Best of luck, and please keep us updated!
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First time i stand up and wallk now, feel lot of pain, dont remmeber what pain more femur or tibia,
Skyisthelimit thx so much for posstive vibe , right now i dont need negative crap like from that guy above , pain is massive, if i survive this i will survive all i think
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When i made femur surgery and after 6 days i move into hotel from monday to saturday stay in hospital
now i made tibia in monday and tomorow is saturday and im not able to wallk to hotel yet i start wallk but really slow and pain like hell
doctor when locked my device he lentething both side litle more to get all correct and he made measure and im actually grom 9.8 not 9.4 cm on femur , can this be reason now to not have power to wallk to hotel after 6 days of operation
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Hi meck,
Not bad, your femur seems to be straighter than before.
Why didn't you think of waiting for some time to see how you recover with 10cm of femur lengthening before doing tibias?
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I try to get all done before summer, think if I wait maybe I will not do tibia at all, that way i say myself when in in Turkey remove fixators better made now also tibia and remove in May, i just hope i doing right, I feel every day better but bottom pin on tibia start pain me today and I feel very uncomfortable with those pins, hope this bad feeling will gone, I will maybe made only 7cm on tibia to be all 17, because 18 is way to much, also with 17 is high score
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Not gonna lie, your doctor did a great job aligning those femur bones!
I would really caution you about lengthening so much on tibia and then having the nail inserted. Im not sure if you read my diary or Androids but our foot drop happened after nailing.
Your already taking a big risk by lengthening so much at once. If you do research that means your at an even greater risk. Nerve damage is no joke man. I couldnt move my foot up or down for 3+ months. Some people never recover. I was really lucky.
Dont play with fire bro
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Hello everyone , today i move into hotel from the hospital and for now i canot wallk or stand up any more , my legs start swollen and because of that i canot even stand up on my legs any more , when i do femur 5 day after i wallk outside the hospital to vip combi taxi , today 7 days after tibia , special emergency combi drive me into leg possition into hotel because i canot stand up , wtf going on before 2 days im able to wallk slowly but now is not possible, who say tibia LON is easy that femur he lie , my legs is complete useless now
(https://i.ibb.co/Fgw3FhB/IMG-20200224-115628.jpg) (https://ibb.co/r460VQZ)
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Hello everyone , today i move into hotel from the hospital and for now i canot wallk or stand up any more , my legs start swollen and because of that i canot even stand up on my legs any more , when i do femur 5 day after i wallk outside the hospital to vip combi taxi , today 7 days after tibia , special emergency combi drive me into leg possition into hotel because i canot stand up , wtf going on before 2 days im able to wallk slowly but now is not possible, who say tibia LON is easy that femur he lie , my legs is complete useless now
The reason to this, Meck, is because you want to rush the procedures. You should’ve known that this surgery is one that has one of the longest recovery time. You just did 10cm, and you didnt even let the recovery start for the femurs after achieving so much and you jumped into the next surgery. You couldn’t have expected that it was gonna be as simple as starting fresh, like it was with the femurs. I really believe the best option was to wait some months. You should never hurry this surgery or everything will come falling down. I don’t know what to suggest now, since you already went under the second surgery. I believe 3cm will be as far as you’ll be able to take your tibias at this moment. All the soft tissues are already stretched and under pressure from the femur lengthening. These soft tissue are also connected to the tibia, so it’s not like you can lengthen much more. If you would have waited, you would have been able to lengthen more than you’re currently capable of at the moment, and with less risks of complications. Best of luck! Hope you pull it through!
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I go 7 even i cut my legs and trow away, im not get all this now because of 3 cm , sory mate im stronger than that
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I go 7 even i cut my legs and trow away, im not get all this now because of 3 cm , sory mate im stronger than that
this isnt a simple cosmetic surgery. you're not getting your nose done. this is a major leg surgery, your mind might be strong but your legs arent as strong as your mind, you should have waited at least a year!
hope everything will turn out to be OK for you pal, but i have serious concerns about your doctor. when you already have exceeded the safe limits, he shouldnt have let you done this, didnt he inform you that you should at least wait a year to achive these numbers?
why the heck he lets you?
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Hello everyone , today i move into hotel from the hospital and for now i canot wallk or stand up any more , my legs start swollen and because of that i canot even stand up on my legs any more , when i do femur 5 day after i wallk outside the hospital to vip combi taxi , today 7 days after tibia , special emergency combi drive me into leg possition into hotel because i canot stand up , wtf going on before 2 days im able to wallk slowly but now is not possible, who say tibia LON is easy that femur he lie , my legs is complete useless now
(https://i.ibb.co/Fgw3FhB/IMG-20200224-115628.jpg) (https://ibb.co/r460VQZ)
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Dude there is a bunch of information and advice on here. I know I said I wouldn’t go past 6.5cm on femurs based on the “safe” evidence and 5.5cm tibia. Usually A healthy universal max is 12 cm on both parts with surgeries DONE within six months Or when one segment shows consolidation or so.
You did like almost 10cm on femurs and over 7 on tibia, way over the safe 2 segment limit of any medical study Or post ive seen or read.
I think you should get a SECOND opinion from ANOTHER doctor in that country/area and see what they can do for you. And I would do that as soon as you can.
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My doctor say he never say strong man like me , and when i have operation, cameras came tv and record me , becuase he say i will be able strait after femur done 10 cm be able get tibia done at least 7 and when i reach 6-7 to contact him to stop and we check how i wallk is all fine to get more, is my choose to get 10 cm on femur and maybe im nothing different than others or i dont know but i know my brain will not let me stop on 3 4 cm on tibia, i will give my best to made finaly 17-18 and now only time will show , just please dont be same negative feeling right now i need support and possitive , many in hospital stop femur on 6 cm my doctor say for them dont go more is max for you and they stop so he know who can and who canot do more , i dont know why for me he say that i will do max score but if he trust in me i must myself , and also today is much better i stand up and and wallk into toilet 2 time in room so i need only shower from hospital and i feel much better, time will show now i hope i can reach more than 7 in tibia and wallk in same time without problems
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My doctor say he never say strong man like me , and when i have operation, cameras came tv and record me , becuase he say i will be able strait after femur done 10 cm be able get tibia done at least 7 and when i reach 6-7 to contact him to stop and we check how i wallk is all fine to get more, is my choose to get 10 cm on femur and maybe im nothing different than others or i dont know but i know my brain will not let me stop on 3 4 cm on tibia, i will give my best to made finaly 17-18 and now only time will show , just please dont be same negative feeling right now i need support and possitive , many in hospital stop femur on 6 cm my doctor say for them dont go more is max for you and they stop so he know who can and who canot do more , i dont know why for me he say that i will do max score but if he trust in me i must myself , and also today is much better i stand up and and wallk into toilet 2 time in room so i need only shower from hospital and i feel much better, time will show now i hope i can reach more than 7 in tibia and wallk in same time without problems
I made Tibial surgery and I think that it can be more difficult than femur. It’s connected not just with knees and thighs, but also ankle, feet and fingers. It become hard to move and rotate and everytime I do less stretching or exercise than I should my feet get so stiff that I can’t move at all. I barely see some reaction on the fingers. Keep massaging and stretching your femur muscles, I am feeling stifness, so you that already did femur Lengthening will probably feel more. Taking care of this part will maximize your results on tibia. The best way is to keep the Lengthening safe and try to avoid the complications, walk and exercise as much as you can. Cold bags help a lot with the blood circulation, and the warm ones relax the muscle and makes more easy to move, switch between both, few minutes each, and finish with the warm on your ankle/feet area and knee. You will notice less stifness and after that is easier to walk or exercise/stretch. While seating, with the knees bended, doing rotation movements with my thumb or two fingers (index and middle) on my calves has also helped me a lot, I move my feet whilst touching and I can identify the muscles that are stiff. I believe that this is all that can help you right now. Now that everything is done concentrate on your body and talk about the misalignment on your tibia with your doctor, how and when he will fix that, I am having the same problem. Tomorrow I have appointment with a new doctor here in scandinavia, I want different professional opinions about this matter. I fear that after Lengthening will be late to fix and I can end up with permanent damage. I would like to add that you should at 6 cm, but it’s your choice anyway and I wish you the best.
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thx mate for the info , is bad on tibia LON for me is bottom pins is in ankle and hard to move with foot and very bad feeling, i hope all will be fine
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I decide to stay in hotel this time until lengthening done on tibia, becasue I don't have internal nail and this fixator move to much i have feeling will broke every moment. So better for me stay into hotel and finish lengthening and remove fixator and get nail inside, becasue when I stand up now my bones move to much inside and is danger go home like this, I will try lengthening litle faster 1.5mm sametime 2mm per day and i will give my best
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I had a tibia LL before. I will suggest your tibia LL no more than 1 mm per day. I remember some doctor (Dr. Paley ?) said tibia LL is no more than 0.75 mm per day. Does your doctor allow to LL 1.5 mm or 2 mm? If your doctor allows you do this, we should avoid your doctor. He is not responsible for his patient.
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1.5 to 2 mm per day? Bro do you really want to be in a wheelchair for life???
Your going to get serious nerve damage please listen to me man!
I really hope for the best but i feel like i should at least try and warn you. Ive been in your shoes and suffered serious consequences by “feeling strong” and thinking i could handle anything.
Jesus i hope and pray for the best, i just wish i had someone warning me about risks when i was going thru this.
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Lengthening when legs is still swollen is not good idea i have pain today 8/10, i need stop until swollen gone and 1mm will be nice idea, when i start by 2mm 4 days and today left leg wanna came out pain 8/10
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Dude, don't be retarded. You will be crippling yourself for life. In tibias even 1mm is too much. Almost every single experienced LL doctor (i.e. Paley. Mahboubian, Betz, etc...) recommends 0,75mm per day and sometimes 0,5mm per day for tibias. You have much less blood in your tibias, it cannot take 1mm per day like femurs.
1mm or 1,5mm per day would already be stupid. But 2mm per day would probably put you in a wheelchair or crutches for the rest of your life.
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I decide to stay in hotel this time until lengthening done on tibia, becasue I don't have internal nail and this fixator move to much i have feeling will broke every moment. So better for me stay into hotel and finish lengthening and remove fixator and get nail inside, becasue when I stand up now my bones move to much inside and is danger go home like this, I will try lengthening litle faster 1.5mm sametime 2mm per day and i will give my best
please don't do this, please..
it's contrary Cll..
for your health, please :( :( :(
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do you use pain medication? Because you seem to suffer alot from pain.
Good luck with tibia bro
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I feel like the only reason I’m going to keep tabs on this story is To remember what NOT to do.
This is completely crazy. I hope you are getting opinions from other QUALIFIED doctors. And hope you let your body heal into a safer recovery...
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So what I need to do now i canot go home, my bones move to much when i try wallk becasue I have no nail inside and this litle fixator is not enough to keep my bones in space, walking home not possible, i must stay here until lengthening done i try get litle faster lengthening because is bored here in hotel and i must stay for 2 months, now i stop lengthening maybe one day to see how mu legs will be, if i have internal nail i can go home but i dont have l, i call my doctor to bring me contramal because I don't have it and when he came i will ask him what to do, because this is not lengthening over nail, i have no nail and wallk not possible, this is like Lazarus system only i dont have that fixators i have worst
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you are in huge danger of non union. the only reason why anyone should go over 1mm per day is when the bones are healing to quickly and the callous is forming to fast. if there is a gap between your callous healing it will never heal and you will have to shorten or get a bone graft. i cannot believe how irresponsible your doctor is. if i was you i would go and see an experienced ll doctor shown him your xrays and tell him how you have sped up your lengthening. the tibias also are much more at risk then the femurs. Good luck
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I will suggest stop to length your tibia now. I know it is hard, but brother you put yourself too danger. For my tibia experience, my doctor is Dr. Salameh. The first month, my left leg bone doesn't grow. He told me to turn back and wait 1 week. After 1 week, my left leg only turn 0.2 mm. Next X-ray, my left leg bone gap is good. He told me to continue to turn 0.6 mm. he suggest his patient LL tibia 0.6 mm per day. One of his patient does 0.4 mm. He did 5.5 cm. He has very bad bellaire feet. He did not do ALT, but he spend 1 year to recovery because bellaire feet. You will need ALT surgery in the future because you don't walk or stand. In the end, my feet not only bellaire feet and deformity. My feet were twisted. Dr. Salameh know how to treat feet deformity. I did feet surgery to correct not only bellaire feet but also feet deformity. Standing or walking is best way to overcome bellaire feet. But your device is not strong enough, so you can't stand or walk. Your feet and your tibia need to maintain 90 degree all the time. You don't listen to other people suggestion. It's your leg and it's your decision. No body will suffer, except you. Your doctor is very irresponsible for his patient. He just wants money. Don't care about his patient. You will have long time to recovery (If you stop now, your can walk without crutches like 3 months. But if you continue LL, you can walk without aid at least 1 year. 1 year is really good condition and really luck. If you bone doesn't grow, someone still use crutches 3 years) Good luck.
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I will suggest stop to length your tibia. I know it is hard, but you put yourself too danger. For my tibia experience, my doctor is Dr. Salameh. The first month, my left leg bone doesn't grow. He told me to turn back and wait 1 week. After 1 week, my left leg only turn 0.2 mm. Next X-ray, my left leg bone gap is good. He told me to continue to turn 0.6 mm. he suggest his patient LL tibia 0.6 mm per day. One of his patient does 0.4 mm. He did 5.5 cm. He has very bad bellaire feet. He did not do ALT, but he spend 1 year to recovery because bellaire feet. You will need ALT surgery in the future because you don't walk or stand. In the end, my feet not only bellaire feet and deformity. My feet were twisted. Dr. Salameh know how to treat feet deformity. I did feet surgery to correct not only bellaire feet but also feet deformity. Standing or walking is best way to overcome bellaire feet. But your device is not strong enough, so you can't stand or walk. Your feet and your tibia need to maintain 90 degree all the time. You don't listen to other people suggestion. It's your leg and it's your decision. No body will suffer, except you. Your doctor is very irresponsible for his patient. He just wants money. Don't care about his patient. You will have long time to recovery. Good luck.
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My doctor did great job on my femur i grow 10cm easy, without any issue, I don't know why he not put nails now inside tibia, but i canot stop now i give lot of money and my bones is cut for nothing than, im in very hard situation, canot wallk, have pain and if now remove fixator and put nail an lock i lose also money and change to grow my tibia, today doctor came to visit me to bring me tramadol and i will ask him what to do now
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My doctor did great job on my femur i grow 10cm easy, without any issue, I don't know why he not put nails now inside tibia, but i canot stop now i give lot of money and my bones is cut for nothing than, im in very hard situation, canot wallk, have pain and if now remove fixator and put nail an lock i lose also money and change to grow my tibia, today doctor came to visit me to bring me tramadol and i will ask him what to do now
i'd say pack your things up and go to giotikas immediately, im reading so many wrong things about your recovery and your LL experience. i mean what do you mean when you say you can feel bones moving inside your legs? what? is this even a normal thing? anyone?
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Because I don't have nail inside only 2pins dowm and 2 pins up keep my bones and fixators that's way when I stand up my bones move, this technic I have right now works if you have Lazarus fixators, but for this fixatorson pic I sent above works only if have nail inside than your bones canot move, even all this happens to me now i must be strong and finish journey, for now i stay in hotel and continue lengthening, doctor came yesterday and bring me tramadol, pain gone now when I have pills, he say he can put one more pin to keep bones to i can wallk but i say no need because after finish lengthening here when put nail inside and lock i will start wallk, for now i do exercise in by bed, doctor say he try put nail first time, but my bone left is to strong and he can't do it, drill stuck in my bone, and he drill my feet to put out ma shine from my bone, so he decide this way without nail, I will try lengthening and stay in bed and have exercise, that option I only have
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i'd say pack your things up and go to giotikas immediately, im reading so many wrong things about your recovery and your LL experience. i mean what do you mean when you say you can feel bones moving inside your legs? what? is this even a normal thing? anyone?
he literally wrote he’s continuing lengthening. Despite everything that is wrong despite the signs. This isn’t someone that wants help or wants to allow his body to heal properly.
You’re literally wasting time soliciting advice or asking him questions. He’s hell bent on doing what he’s going to do.
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Why you not understand once for all i will succes , im not samoene who stop on first sign of same issue , i fight and fight that way i get 10 cm on femur , and understand this cam007 i will succes without any issue finish lenthening 7cm on tibia and more , i write on diary i have pain hurt me or similar but i just write what happen to me right now , i will not stop lenthening and i will succes, when i done this in 2 months from now i will shut up your mouth forever
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i thought the pain that i went through lengthening was normal then i didnt realise till 1 month after lengthening i had non union and several other serious problems. During your lenghtening phase you may not realise you are having serious problems,its during the healing phase after you finish. right now you need to listen to people like me. i had lenghtening in turkey just like you with a doctor who had no idea or didnt care, and no joke if i didnt have surgical intervention and shortening in greece after i would have been crippled for life. it took me months to heal. Meck do you really want to risk your legs ? because once you have non union it will cost you thousands of dollars and lost time and mental anguish. In this forum people are trying to look out for each other over these type of doctors. your doctor is unethical for letting you go 10cm on femur then letting you lenghten to fast on your tibias and even letting you lenghten your tibias to soon. your doctor should loose his licence for this, and your diary should hopefully make other people avoid using him. you are great risk now.
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In hospital many people stay made lenthening by him and all is fine and all perfect, my choose is 10 cm on femur not doctor and my choose is to made tibia same day when i remove device of femur , and remember this my frend in 2 month from now i will remove fixator from tibia will be about 7 and more cm and i will start wallk normal soon after that , all video i will post, i believe in myself and i will succes without problem , right now im 11.5 cm grow , 1.5 cm on tibia i get
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you maybe strong mentally, but if you have pulled the bone away to quick on distraction the bone cannot heal, and you will not walk, just like a soldier maybe mentally strong but if he got his legs blown off by an IED he aint walking either. there is no amount of mental strongness that can save you from the injury you are risking. your doctor should have said no to what you asked. no decent doctor would not have done this because the health of a patient is more important then the money
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In hospital many people stay made lenthening by him and all is fine and all perfect, my choose is 10 cm on femur not doctor and my choose is to made tibia same day when i remove device of femur , and remember this my frend in 2 month from now i will remove fixator from tibia will be about 7 and more cm and i will start wallk normal soon after that , all video i will post, i believe in myself and i will succes without problem , right now im 11.5 cm grow , 1.5 cm on tibia i get
I’ve seen the record of Dr. Buldu, and it’s good so far. By doing this not only do you put yourself in danger, but you put your doctor’s reputation on the line too. I personally believe that doctors involvement in the treatment goes as far as the surgery and advice afterwards. Most of the complications in Ll procedures are because of the person’s genetics, that are just not made for the treatment and react bad against it, or the patient, like in this case, has no knowledge about cll and is betting All In on their leg, because they “believe” they are different from every other cll patient and their body are immune of any complications. Meck, you said that you are doing this way of lengthening because you have no time and want to lengthen as much, as fast as possible to be over with it. Well, let me tell you that I personally don’t believe that you are a good candidate for cll with your state of mind. You should have done your research before going under the knife. This goes for everyone out there thinking about going through with this position... The cll is only for patient and understanding people. By patient I mean people that will understand that this procedure takes its time and is not all unicorns and rainbows. You’ll have to put in the time and work. By understanding people, I mean people that are cleared from any illusions that this is a walk in the park. People that understand that there are limits. Clearly Meck doesn’t have any limits and he is willing to gamble with his legs. I hope his doctor can put some sense in him, since we obviously can’t, and hope that he understands that this is for his well being.
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Why you not understand once for all i will succes , im not samoene who stop on first sign of same issue , i fight and fight that way i get 10 cm on femur , and understand this cam007 i will succes without any issue finish lenthening 7cm on tibia and more , i write on diary i have pain hurt me or similar but i just write what happen to me right now , i will not stop lenthening and i will succes, when i done this in 2 months from now i will shut up your mouth forever
Dude you ALREADY have an issue lol. How can you say you will end up without issue , when you keep adding new issues to yourself.
Like I said most of us already gave sound advice. It’s your legs. You want to put 17cm on a 5’4 frame without being careful, do you man !
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Ok like this from now i decide lengthening 7 days 1mm than one day pause, todaybi use pause to rest my legs, than 7 days again 1mm and use day pause again, and i will see how long I can take like that, and if is hard also that after I will made 0.75mm per day and use 2 days pause, people must udnerstand me now also i pay hotel 5star 5500euro for 2 month stay here and lengthening, and pay doctor for LL, and how to stop now all and, is not only money I lost I don't care about money lost but Is sad that I broke my bones and feel that much pain to to over with nothing, I try at least 5cm get in tibia to not waste all that, after that i will relax and if is all ok i try more and if not 5 cm is nice score becsuse i already have 10cm on femur, but i fight with tibia now to get any cm, to not waste all this pain and money for nothing, i hope guys you udnerstand me
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Ok like this from now i decide lengthening 7 days 1mm than one day pause, todaybi use pause to rest my legs, than 7 days again 1mm and use day pause again, and i will see how long I can take like that, and if is hard also that after I will made 0.75mm per day and use 2 days pause, people must udnerstand me now also i pay hotel 5star 5500euro for 2 month stay here and lengthening, and pay doctor for LL, and how to stop now all and, is not only money I lost I don't care about money lost but Is sad that I broke my bones and feel that much pain to to over with nothing, I try at least 5cm get in tibia to not waste all that, after that i will relax and if is all ok i try more and if not 5 cm is nice score becsuse i already have 10cm on femur, but i fight with tibia now to get any cm, to not waste all this pain and money for nothing, i hope guys you udnerstand me
Understand. Hope it turns out worth it.
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Today i made first xray after 11 days of lenthening, so far reach about 2,5 cm , have pain in my left leg , deep deep pain in bone , but i think will be fine
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Today i made first xray after 11 days of lenthening, so far reach about 2,5 cm , have pain in my left leg , deep deep pain in bone , but i think will be fine
any reason for the misalignment?
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Don't know nothing mate, I just know I have fking pain in left leg 8/10 non stop, doctor say when he nail put inside will be strait, for now i will start normal lengthening, not 2mm per day, maybe pain will gone then
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I would recommend you to have a second and third opinion from experienced doctors about your case.
It seems you are doing things which studies of LL show are not recommended.
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C'mon man...
alright. do what you gotta do, you dont listen to what we say anyway. i'm interested in the outcome though, if your journey turns out to be alright, then i might consider your doctor. heck i only want to grow 14 cm, not 18 like you. cause thats too fkin much.
btw where are you from?
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NO, DONT LET YOUR MIND PLAY THOSE TRICKS TO YOU. LL IT'S NOT ABOUT WINNING ANYTHING, ITS ONLY ABOUT BEING TALLER. YOU WILL NEVER EVEN HAVE THE CHANCE TO FIGHT FOR ANY WINS IN YOUR LIFE IF YOU END UP CRIPPLED. STOP IMMEDIATELLY, YOU ARE IN REAL DANGER OF CAUSING SERIOUS DAMAGE TO YOURSELF. YOUR LEGS AND THE METALS ARE FALLING APART. IT'S NOT ONLY THE BENDING BUT ALSO THE TINY SCREWS ON THE BOTTOM OF THE FIBULAS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF THE BONE. HAS YOUR DOCTOR TOLD YOU ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? WITH REGARDS TO LENGHTENING RATE, IF HE HASN'T MANAGED TO MAKE YOU COOPERATE SO FAR, HE IS NOT A GOOD DOCTOR FOR YOU. YOU NEED HELP, DONT' BE IN DENIAL, ACCEPT IT AND ACT UPON IT.
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Andy, you will see when i grow 18 cm and start wallk , i dont listen crap any more from people who never do lenthening and they know everything, you canot scare me with that story , i totally believe my doctor, and my legs will handle this easy
FOX im from Bosnia
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friends can consult me if you want to elongate with minimum pain..
CLL takes seriousness...
they damage nerves and muscles during surgery...
Those who want to have surgery in Turkey..
no matter what Doctor...
I know all about that...
I know all their patients...
stay away from uninformed doctors..
from illiterate patients..
don't need these brokers at lon method..
even though they say I'm rich..
they do not know that there are 10 to 12 cm nails in more closed methods..
because that's their excuse. :)
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NO, DONT LET YOUR MIND PLAY THOSE TRICKS TO YOU. LL IT'S NOT ABOUT WINNING ANYTHING, ITS ONLY ABOUT BEING TALLER. YOU WILL NEVER EVEN HAVE THE CHANCE TO FIGHT FOR ANY WINS IN YOUR LIFE IF YOU END UP CRIPPLED. STOP IMMEDIATELLY, YOU ARE IN REAL DANGER OF CAUSING SERIOUS DAMAGE TO YOURSELF. YOUR LEGS AND THE METALS ARE FALLING APART. IT'S NOT ONLY THE BENDING BUT ALSO THE TINY SCREWS ON THE BOTTOM OF THE FIBULAS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF THE BONE. HAS YOUR DOCTOR TOLD YOU ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? WITH REGARDS TO LENGHTENING RATE, IF HE HASN'T MANAGED TO MAKE YOU COOPERATE SO FAR, HE IS NOT A GOOD DOCTOR FOR YOU. YOU NEED HELP, DONT' BE IN DENIAL, ACCEPT IT AND ACT UPON IT.
bravo...
LL because it takes seriousness...
thanks for sharing nice ANDY :)
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Today i stop lengthening and pain from 8/10 get to zero, no pain at all, only one day brake, so i decide lengthening 6 day and Sunday take off, i will see how is going like this, I will get relax after 6cm on tibia, then every cm more if add extra will be only bonus, time will show how will end this, at least we are in same , have worst time in life until lengthening done
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Hey meck, currently I am also doing LL and i have reached around 3 to 3.5 cm, my next xray is on 25th of this month. Keep lengthening bro. I also have the same kind of pain in my leg but this is part of this sergery. Some people dont have pain at all some have too much. Hang on atleast until 6 cm is a good idea. Wish you good lengthening bro
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Thx mate for support, for sure i will lengthening im not do all this to stop because own or two guys from forum say i will be crippled if continue even they never do LL but they know all better than doctors, i hope mate you will reach your goal to, i will you all the best
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bruh your tibias are very misaligned..
you are prolly gnna end up with nonunion if you dont get that fixed.
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You blind? read above, he will put the nail and get bones strait in 2 month after lengthening, will not stay like this
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i cannot see any callous and it cannot form on a misalignment like that, you already have delayed union, which will be non union, it does not take a doctor to see that. you will keep pulling the bone further apart on a misalignment. once you stop lenghtening you will have to get it realigned. you have delayed union so then you have to shorten if you can on that nail to re stimulate bone growth. if you cant shorten on that method you will have to have bone taken from your pelvis and then join the whole gap which will be alot of bone. you will be on crutches for months maybe even a year in pain like i was. with an idiot doctor from istanbul who told me my non union would heal on its own.
its time for you meck to stop doing this the xrays show you are screwed. like it not its time to get help, sorry to be so negative but i have been there. you will not heal without help
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i cannot see any callous and it cannot form on a misalignment like that, you already have delayed union, which will be non union, it does not take a doctor to see that. you will keep pulling the bone further apart on a misalignment. once you stop lenghtening you will have to get it realigned. you have delayed union so then you have to shorten if you can on that nail to re stimulate bone growth. if you cant shorten on that method you will have to have bone taken from your pelvis and then join the whole gap which will be alot of bone. you will be on crutches for months maybe even a year in pain like i was. with an idiot doctor from istanbul who told me my non union would heal on its own.
its time for you meck to stop doing this the xrays show you are screwed. like it not its time to get help, sorry to be so negative but i have been there. you will not heal without help
but he is still lengthening, does callus still form during the lengthening period? i thought it forms after the lengthening is finished.
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but he is still lengthening, does callus still form during the lengthening period? i thought it forms after the lengthening is finished.
ever heard of preconsolidation?
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meck did you tell DR HALIL BULDU you were doing 2mm per day? Did he say "OK no problem"?
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your bone should pull apart 1 mm per day if your bone pulls apart and there is more then 1 mm gap the callous breaks and will never heal without surgical intervention. the reason why lenghtening is only sped up with patients, who produce callous faster, therefore, they need to lenghten 1.25 to usually 1.5mm per day otherwise they heal to fast. my doctor in turkey told me to lenghten 1.8 mm per day for 10 days he lied said i was healing to quick. when i got to greece dr giotikas pointed out there was never any healing forming, therefore there was no justification to lenghten at that speed which was one of the reasons for non union.
meck now needs serious help he is done. pulling the bone further apart will mean a larger bone graft or shortening more, even the misalignment is a medical emergency and needs surgical intervention. His doctor is bad as dr ozgur my doctor who messed me up, they are both from istanbul. turkey is unregulated and the doctors are badly trained and dont care. everyone is hustling like in a bizzare trying to take your money. Stay away from Turkey.
meck i hope you have money saved you have serious medical emergency which is going to cost you time and money
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sorry this is an old user name i have never used i am seriouslyinjured i had it up on another browser that had me longed in from a couple of years ago as mongkon
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ever heard of preconsolidation?
what? can you even read? he said he cannot see any callus forming and you're talking about pre consolidation ( meaning callus forming and bone creating sooner than expected )
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Why people canot understand , now bones not strait , so after one month and 15 days, i have surgery and he will put nails inside legs and get bones strait , after that will start heal normaly and all will be fine , all you talk me same crap for femur to and i finishwith 10cm without problems , so if dr Uzgur made trouble to you mate , dr Halil will made good job to my legs for sure
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Can you show us pictures of your legs
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I lose almost 24kg from femur start until now
(https://i.ibb.co/g7cFPNW/received-651450685423620.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kyP69jD)
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I lose almost 24kg from femur start until now
(https://i.ibb.co/g7cFPNW/received-651450685423620.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kyP69jD)
well i have to say that your proportions are awesome, tibias look little shorter than the femurs but you're lengthening anyway.
hope you will recover very soon.
just, be, fking, careful.
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Before start lengthening femur i wass really small, this is very huge difference now, i will post pic also when i reach 182cm
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Any update ??!
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Do not follow this ignorant...
you may be crippled...
Come to my diary my face is open..
Why would I tell you your face is closed?
because you're brazen :D :D :D
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All know that user Blackwhite is big liar fake diary try find people for LL and take money from them, he also represent unknow doctor, and he have more than 10% of money, so all avoid this crap member Blackwhite, do not bee fool to rip you same uglly kid
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All know that user Blackwhite is big liar fake diary try find people for LL and take money from them, he also represent unknow doctor, and he have more than 10% of money, so all avoid this crap member Blackwhite, do not bee fool to rip you same uglly kid
I've become popular in my country...
I'm not taking you seriously.
Because you're schizophrenic from drinking zaldiar all the time ;)
https://www.instagram.com/p/B8ofx5XHjph/?igshid=1saxraar9qwvn
Those who want to call me can reach me via Instagram and phone number.
wp:+905315724762 Im GÜRKAN ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0lyt11-wQY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OgMkPjU8AE
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remember...
You were going to hurt yourself.
I helped you.
But you're ungrateful, also ignorant :)
you are rich but combined method
Im poor precice 2 ;)
I'm not going to let you mislead people.
people should deserve the best
you are a liar that doesn't offer people the best...
everyone will see this over time ;)
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I hope only you will not cheat noone here in forum for LL because on what's up group you cheat people and take money from them, and they banned you, now same crap try here, AVOID USER Blackwhite HE IS LIAR, dont let his story confuse, he only try take money from people who wanna do LL, i already find where is he now, soon i take fixators and i go there to broke his legs
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I hope only you will not cheat noone here in forum for LL because on what's up group you cheat people and take money from them, and they banned you, now same crap try here, AVOID USER Blackwhite HE IS LIAR, dont let his story confuse, he only try take money from people who wanna do LL, i already find where is he now, soon i take fixators and i go there to broke his legs
if you're a boy, tell me your address.
I'll give you a fine punishment for threatening me again...
come on, Call Me Dec. I'll come to you...and in a wheelchair...
you're just a keyboard boy...come on, write me my number, Man. don't be afraid.
I'll show you what it's like to threaten.
why don't you call me, you coward ?
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You are easy located, your frend Sedad help me, now only need 15 days more to remove fixators I will surprise you cheater
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You dont need need to ask my location to anybody. I can already send you. If you want ı can come either. You are not a real man. You can’t do anything to me. You did the biggest mistake of your life by threating me you rich ...don't forget everyone knows me....I will show you who I am ;) ;)
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You know what I think right now, I have feel 3 war world will start soon and all country will start panic, i must remove this fixators before get crazy, so fk you and fk your doctor, i need to save myself
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I know your psychology is broken...be patient, everything will passthink of me..
I'm in a wheelchair...
and until August to September...
I'm not going to talk like you...
I'm not going down to your level.
Because...
You are the pussiest person ı have ever seen
and the most cowardly
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I reach 4cm on tibia already together now is 14cm, pain is 5/10 per day but im very happy 14cm and I look totally different now, will try few more cm and that all
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Hi meck....what is your instagram..can you please link down your insta ID here thank you..and how is femur callus.
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Today all hotels in Istanbul are close because of Corona, i find place to stay, but is very hard becasue i can't wallk yet. In 15 April I will have surgery and remove fixators and input nails inside, i hope all will be fine, until 15 April I will be about 7,5 cm on tibia and I think is good, together will be 17.5cm reach in few months. I scare get more because maybe panic will soon start also here like in Europe and im not be able to remove fixators
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Keep us posted. This is the craziest thing I have read in a good while. You must have extremely flexible soft tissues to accommodate all that lengthening. Sadly, it is very likely that you will have non-union on some if not all segments.
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When i finish this all will be ok, also they all say non union for femur will be and i reach 10 cm without any problem and now femur start recovery perfect, so that also will be with tibia when i input nail inside all will be fine, soon i start wallk and will start healing, so that story for non union is crap, I will reach max cm and without any problem belive me
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When i finish this all will be ok, also they all say non union for femur will be and i reach 10 cm without any problem and now femur start recovery perfect, so that also will be with tibia when i input nail inside all will be fine, soon i start wallk and will start healing, so that story for non union is crap, I will reach max cm and without any problem belive me
I admire your willpower. It is your life after all. How does the callus formation on the femurs look? Can you post some recent x-rays? What about your new overall ratios of upper body to lower body?
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Now i recive information that also this hotel closed tomorrow morning and only option I have to go on street, even money not help. Here in Istanbul is all closed. I canot go home because airport is closed also. Must call my ambasade now to see what options I have.
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My right foot start became a dark and black, i can move only one finger litle, i hope is nothing bad, but pain me to much there
(https://i.ibb.co/5B7B2gc/IMG-20200402-160437.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pJmJnBX)
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it could be a deep vein thrombosis. if it is its life threatening, and can cause a pulmonary lung embolism which kills people if untreated, and can happen from imobility of your foot or an after effect from surgery even for a long time after the surgery.
https://www.healthline.com/health/deep-venous-thrombosis
since everything is closed you should first go to the hospital before all the beds are taken by corona patients. if it is a DVT they will give you emergency treatment, but hopefully its not. contact your embassy while you are at the hospital and tell them you have a severe medical condition broken legs and need to be repatriated to your country.
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I must first remove fixators than try to go home, here is crazy situation I just hope I will be fine
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go on airbnb there are plenty of cheap apartments in istanbul, you are much better of staying there and waiting for your next surgery, plus you need to get your foot checked out
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Best whishes for you.
Coronavirus is everywhere, but they should have not kicked you out of the hotel.
In my country, foreigners who where staying in hotels, where made to stay quarantine inside hotels.
Pls keep us informed of your situation.
PD: If you suspect there may be clots forming in your feet ask your doctor to prescribe anti-clot medication, if you are not able to recieve it due to the current quarantine, ask for aspirine. It is harmless ( unless you have allergy), and it works as a temporal sustite for anti-clot medication.
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My right foot start became a dark and black, i can move only one finger litle, i hope is nothing bad, but pain me to much there
(https://i.ibb.co/5B7B2gc/IMG-20200402-160437.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pJmJnBX)
Its nerve damage. I warned you about this buddy smh
Keep lengthening and you wont be able to move any part of your foot. People like you piss me off for not listening to veterans who have gone thru this and thinking they are better or different than us. Ill pray for you man but honestly its kind of late, the damage has been done.
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You have nerve damage and besides nerve problem you have equinus foot or ballerina. You must stop lengthening and get this frame off straight away. What is your doctor saying regarding this ? Share with us please.
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This boy did not even know how many millimeters to turning per day. He turned 4 quarters in 4 times per a day. So the first 3 days he turned 1.2 cm in totally. The doctor told him how many turn per a day, also Meck Recorded when his doctors tell him how to turn. But he again did false. He did 1.2 cm turning in just 3 day. Look Meck, this information(1mm per day) is basic and starter knowladge for Lengthening Surgery. But you didn't even know that.
Please Nobody should take this guy as an example.. If you don't know starter information about this surgery, please don't have this surgery. You know what this man looks like? You don't know how to shoot wtih a rifle, but you go the frontline to kill enemy soldier. Its brain processor is programmed like a robot. He does not listen to any advice from veterans. He always thinks he knows best, but he doesn't know anything. This man needs a very serious psychological treatment. He thinks that people don't want his lengthening.
Look buddy, you need serious psychological. Many Cll patients have already some psychology problems. Maybe me too. But you're fully cracked psychology from the start.I think your doctor is technically good. He knows what to do LON FEMUR and LON TIBIA WITH CIRCULAR. But he is not ethical. Because He shouldn't have operated on you without waiting enough time. Otherhand, monolateral fixators are always a problem for the tibia. Especially without im nails. Probably you learned misaligment after you experienced misaligment problems. Your doctor knows this and many things very well. Demanding people like you and you are just like a stream in a river. your doctor is following the stream.
In the other hand,he angry me and blocked on wp. I didnt be succesfull to tell x-ray machines not calibrated.His brain dont understand my calculation. His fixator's fixed part measured 6.9 cm in real life but it show on 8 cm in his xray film. so his last xray machine meausured 1.15 times much more.Hislast x-ray say 9.6 cm, actually it 9.6/1.15 cm in real. But he think whatever x-ray says is true. He tell me about his before/after height measurement He is really funny man. I said him height is variable in every time. I couldn't explain that the only thing that was real was the gap between the bone. Nobody give him advice or info. After all, he lives and learns. This is perhaps a natural selection for many different people.
But despite everything, I told him over and over again. most of the things. It should wait for second. Yes, I did this for humanity. But this boy is very different. He was asking or writing me a question on wp but He was not taking any of the words I said. I asked him, why are you writing? For example, if forumers tell him this is nerve damage. What is Meck going to do? Are you going back? No.He said only "i am good now" Lol
Yes, I wrote very hard about him. Because he claimed he was a real white man before he blocked me. He was very durable and handsome. He thinks people are jealous of him. You really are like a boy, buddy.
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How is it going Meck? Have you found a place to stay? What about your foot?
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I find place in Istanbul now is all ok and my foot is good now, I stop lengthening 2 days and now nerves going to normal, in monday i start lengthening again 1mm and is all ok no pain, i reach for now 16cm, same user must understand my pain because in 6 months I reach 16cm without wait mu femur heal I do tibia, but now is all ok i just need pause 2 days, now im like new, also this user sopranos is very bad person at all i block crap on what's up because he know all about everything, those guys only better block and continue with life without them
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Please, Come on, prove your claim of about me to people. "Sopranos is very bad people"
You have all the messages we talked to. I have it all. Come on, share the screenshots. Firstly you wrote me and asked me details. Everytime I wrote everthing clearly to you don't hurt yourself. Please don't lie to people here. Did you forget the messages you wrote to me when you were in pain like hell? Is it a lie that you turned 1.2 centimeters in first 3 lenthening days? Why can't you send a video when walking from at start? It is always the same lie. Who are you better than? Are you better than a patient lying in a coma? Maybe it is possible. Lol
You have many complications. You even say it yourself. But As you always do, only 2 days later, you say " I am very well.I am in zero pain" bla bla bla. . You claimed me on whatsapp, I walked without support as like normal life when you was in 6cm, I asked you 2 times to send me but you couldn't send a video. Please don't fool people here. Actually You fool yourself.You will be happy with your Pollyanna Story. You ruined yourself.
You think the same thing is your through passing the pain and your taken damage. But this idea is big false. I will be right again, but you will not be able to say this from your pride.
There is no lie I even said. I told people from at start that CLL was a gamble. Especially in undeveloped countries. But of course this is related to the budget.
I mentioned everything I had experienced but you didn't write yours here.
1- you turned 4 mm dailly in your first 3 lengthening days.(i have your messages)
2-your fixator broken when you were even at 3 cm. (i have your broken fixator video and your messages)
Also I warned you before surgery about this problem. Please look at the messages on your Whatsapp. I said to you, "Please tell your doctor. His fixators can break. Please tell him, he should use more quality or more safety fixators on your leg ." Little use brain. if I was a bad person, why would I warn you? And only after 1 month, I was right again, your fixator was broken. Look, it is really broken. You couldn't even put that foot on the ground. You never mentioned that here.
For example, i mentioned my right fixator device blocked at i was in 6.4 cm. And i wrote this at forum. My defective right fixator was able to carry me, It just only blocked and it wasn't going forward i wanted to change to continue lengthening and it changed by doctor without anesthesia.
In the other hand, I don't sanitize anyone. I'm not sharing them here but I will send it if anyone wants.
Also, He was not lengthened as many as he said. All the devices whose x-rays are taken are badly calibrated. Especially his x-ray device is show 1-1.5 cm more than real cm. I proved it. Maybe this little illusion is good for crazy people's health in future.
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Please stop spam my diary I can't read your crap, i need update people here about lengthening, you and few others here like everything know better than any doctor so keep that knowledge for you, i dont need that, i reach 16 cm and i still lengthening now without pain and im good if you need to know, please stop write your long story on my diary, I'm not read at all
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My post is not spam. Please let the forumers decide if my post is spam or not. Every post of me in this forum is a neutral guide for people. but you are only talking nonsense. If you were already a honest person, you would apologize to me. Because you claimed "I am a bad guy". Please get psychological support. Even if you are 190 cm, you psychology will not heal. I will not write anymore. I have already show all your lies to people.
Now forumers will read this my post and they knowing all these lies of you. They will thank me.
After getting to know you, I prayed to God that I had a brain that can think normal.
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Ok all ok just fk off from me, I don't care about you or your crap knowledge about LL that I will be crippled or non union bones or similar , I don't care about negative people I go for max height and is my choose Stop write on my diary
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Please, Come on, prove your claim of about me to people. "Sopranos is very bad people"
You have all the messages we talked to. I have it all. Come on, share the screenshots. Firstly you wrote me and asked me details. Everytime I wrote everthing clearly to you don't hurt yourself. Please don't lie to people here. Did you forget the messages you wrote to me when you were in pain like hell? Is it a lie that you turned 1.2 centimeters in first 3 lenthening days? Why can't you send a video when walking from at start? It is always the same lie. Who are you better than? Are you better than a patient lying in a coma? Maybe it is possible. Lol
You have many complications. You even say it yourself. But As you always do, only 2 days later, you say " I am very well.I am in zero pain" bla bla bla. . You claimed me on whatsapp, I walked without support as like normal life when you was in 6cm, I asked you 2 times to send me but you couldn't send a video. Please don't fool people here. Actually You fool yourself.You will be happy with your Pollyanna Story. You ruined yourself.
You think the same thing is your through passing the pain and your taken damage. But this idea is big false. I will be right again, but you will not be able to say this from your pride.
There is no lie I even said. I told people from at start that CLL was a gamble. Especially in undeveloped countries. But of course this is related to the budget.
I mentioned everything I had experienced but you didn't write yours here.
1- you turned 4 mm dailly in your first 3 lengthening days.(i have your messages)
2-your fixator broken when you were even at 3 cm. (i have your broken fixator video and your messages)
Also I warned you before surgery about this problem. Please look at the messages on your Whatsapp. I said to you, "Please tell your doctor. His fixators can break. Please tell him, he should use more quality or more safety fixators on your leg ." Little use brain. if I was a bad person, why would I warn you? And only after 1 month, I was right again, your fixator was broken. Look, it is really broken. You couldn't even put that foot on the ground. You never mentioned that here.
For example, i mentioned my right fixator device blocked at i was in 6.4 cm. And i wrote this at forum. My defective right fixator was able to carry me, It just only blocked and it wasn't going forward i wanted to change to continue lengthening and it changed by doctor without anesthesia.
In the other hand, I don't sanitize anyone. I'm not sharing them here but I will send it if anyone wants.
Also, He was not lengthened as many as he said. All the devices whose x-rays are taken are badly calibrated. Especially his x-ray device is show 1-1.5 cm more than real cm. I proved it. Maybe this little illusion is good for crazy people's health in future.
I've written about what happened before..
This friend's writing is also my proof...
My advice to you is meck, you need to look into a piskolog thing.
I told you I wouldn't let you risk people's lives...
You'd be paralyzed
We saved you at the last minute.
You owe me gratitude to the friend and to me.don't be ungrateful.
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I own you nothing you are fool, i never write with you only here ,and i never get almost paralyzed , so stop write on my diary once for all or i will ruine your diary
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You have any videos of you moving your feet and toes? Really doubt your nerves healed in 2 days. Nerves take months to heal.
I mean unless your hiding something and lying why not prove it?
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I say pain gone when I stop 2 days lengthening I start from Monday again and pain came back only litle less in foot, and why I waste my time to prove you samething, who are you for me to i prove you, i dont need prove nothing to noone, when i remove device I will made one video to people like you see that im not crippled
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164 cm Octobar 28. 2019 180cm April 2020 i WIN my dream came true
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Wow that's..cool, happy for you man. Let's hope your recovery is smooth. May I know your starting proportions (sitting height, crotch to floor inseam)? Your legs a bit excessively long right now
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Pictures look okay..but dnt know how u will look with clothes on and standing..anyways i hope for the best for u....and yeah plz share ur pre OP body measurements..and if u have any photo pre OP plz post them thank you and take care.
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will DR HALIL BULDU now insert a nail in your tibias Meck to straighten them? Are they even allowing surgeries in Turkey during this times?
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Congratulations on meeting your goal Meck.
But as you and we all know this is blatantly not the end of your journey, the marathon has just begun.
Through PT and years and years and years of work you will recover.
Even if you are not 180cm and only just 175cm it doesn't matter. You are now much taller than you were before, and that is your goal, and you accomplished it.
Best of luck Meck, I pray for your recovery.
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Hey ghkid2019 meck is at 180cm..not 175.
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Hey Meck,
Congratulations on reaching 180 cm definitely one of the longest CLL we have seen here lately.
Pls keep us informed on your recovery.
I am as well interested in your pre-LL measurements; inseam, sitting height and and arm span.
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Looking tall Meck that’s awesome. Wishing u the best consolidation possible brother
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164 cm Octobar 28. 2019 180cm April 2020 i WIN my dream came true
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Woah thats some major ballerina. Im praying for your recovery man.
PT is gonna be one heck of a battle for you
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Thx everyone for supoort, and be sure I will start wallk without any helper, max one month after remove device, when i believe is samething i give me best to do that, my power of will is stronger that fear of ballerina or any other issue and trust me,when you believe in samething do hard to achieve that, I will prove this theory with video soon
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Yeah but I'm really curious about your stats. Has anyone seen you yet and how do you look standing?
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Is very strange, when i stop lengthening pain is gone totally, today is Sunday and I decide not lengthening every Sunday, but soon when I wake up and not lengthening I start feel much better, not pain at all
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I finish surgery before 1 hour, oh crazy pain now can't write nothing more
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Where is now all those guys who says i will have no union no calus and similar crap, check my xray and see by yourself , i did 6.5 cm on tibia becase i scare hospital will close and i will stuck with this, but never mind i do totaly 16 CM and soon i post femur xray is almost heal femur
(https://i.ibb.co/tcHPRTy/IMG-20200415-202450.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jG8ZtP7)
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As per your x ray, I hope you will not have x leg bro.
You can test your self initially, just stand up and put your foot close to each other with no space if your both foots and your knees touched in the same time it means your both leg straight if you can make your knees only touched and your foot can not be touched it means x leg. The last thing if you can make foot touched only and you can not make your knees touched in the same time it means bow leg.
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Where is now all those guys who says i will have no union no calus and similar crap, check my xray and see by yourself , i did 6.5 cm on tibia becase i scare hospital will close and i will stuck with this, but never mind i do totaly 16 CM and soon i post femur xray is almost heal femur
(https://i.ibb.co/tcHPRTy/IMG-20200415-202450.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jG8ZtP7)
(https://i.ibb.co/pxhrfQX/IMG-20200415-202645.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TkWq41h)
Lets see you walking and running and then you can call your surgery a success. This is just the beginning of recovery buddy.
I really hope you turn out ok but stop misleading people into thinking they should do what you did if you havent even finished the journey yourself.
What you did was really stupid honestly, i would hate for someone to read this diary and jump into the same boat as you thinking itll all be fine.
Either way, xrays look good but its the tendons and nerves you should be worried about. You cant see those in xrays 🤣
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Hi Meck,
i have been thinking about LON Tibia with the same doctor and i just seen your story. I'm impressed!
i have a few questions about the surgery and after-surgery process, i would be happy if you could answer
I'm 174 cm and i want to add 5-6 cm on my tibia by LON. Also i have light bow legs.
so my questions:
- Is it possible to limblengthen and a light bowleg correction at the same time? Even if i asked that here once, and the answers were mostly "no", but i saw recently some bowlegs corrections with limblengthening by LON. Maybe Dr. Buldu does that as well?
- I'm currently not living in Istanbul and i work in Germany. I guess for 5 cm i would need around 2 months but can i go back to Germany and begin to work again right after 2 months ? (I work always in an office on the computer, not a hard physical job).
Thanks in Advance and congrats again!
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You can made LL and go home in Germany and lengthening there, no need to stay in Istanbul I made femur and go home, and don't read what those negative parasites write, they are all jealous, they say non union on femur will have, becasue i reach 10cm and my femur almost heal now, then they say no union on tibia, yesterday I remove device and i have very good union, than they say your bones are not strait without nails no union will be, doctor put nails inside and is great all, i canot made video of how i wallk becsuse i do surgery before 20 hours, but soon i will get strong and start wallk than i made video for all those negative crap people who only like to sameone have issue with LL and they know better than any doctor when they see xray they know all, im sick from people like them
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You can made LL and go home in Germany and lengthening there, no need to stay in Istanbul I made femur and go home, and don't read what those negative parasites write, they are all jealous, they say non union on femur will have, becasue i reach 10cm and my femur almost heal now, then they say no union on tibia, yesterday I remove device and i have very good union, than they say your bones are not strait without nails no union will be, doctor put nails inside and is great all, i canot made video of how i wallk becsuse i do surgery before 20 hours, but soon i will get strong and start wallk than i made video for all those negative crap people who only like to sameone have issue with LL and they know better than any doctor when they see xray they know all, im sick from people like them
That sounds great! I thought that i have to stay at home and only visit the doctor until lengthening is done.
Were you able to walk with crutches/support or just by wheelchair while lengthening?
and what about the physiotherapy? Did you get it done in your country as well?
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Pain gone for 95% almost not feel any pain now, only time need to heal and wallk
(https://i.ibb.co/b5rX6N7/IMG-20200418-191419.jpg) (https://ibb.co/whK4dpY)
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Any updates Meck? I would love to see a pic of you standing up. What is your wingspan?
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Im not yet stand up because when i do tibia i wallk , and when i find out i have no nail inside yet i stop wallk and my both foot left into one possition like you press gas pedal in car , and i cant push back foot yet , my tendom in tight i need to wait to litle relax to i can push my foot up and down, i do exercise every day and is better and better , soon i will relax tendons and will be easy, my wingspan is 176cm, and my height 180cm
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Hello can sameone who made tibia and have experience, check is this ballerina foot i have or is other issue and how long need to do exercise to get back fot to normal , i can move up or down only 1 cm maybe for now, here the link i upload video
https://streamable.com/jtvcse
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Hi Meck, I think you might need to wear Height Increase Insoles to start with?
It's one of the height increase insoles products I found from Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/Increase-Insoles-3-Layer-Cushion-ERGOfoot/dp/B075L86KY6/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1
There was a guy from Vietnam who did 8 cm on tibia and shared his experience in this forum. And he started to exercise 10 days after frame removed. Here are the pics he shared (In the pics, he's wearing height increase insoles):
https://imgur.com/QBLxrwy,l275oay
https://imgur.com/x37Wu3M
This is the link of his diary:
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=3681.0
The recovery process took him for about 9 months, so it's better to stay patient and to take steps slowly.
I wish the best for you!
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Hello can sameone who made tibia and have experience, check is this ballerina foot i have or is other issue and how long need to do exercise to get back fot to normal , i can move up or down only 1 cm maybe for now, here the link i upload video
https://streamable.com/jtvcse
That is drop foot. What i was warning you about. It took me about 5 months to recover from it. Theres another guy on this forum who has had it for over 1.5 years.
Only thing you can do is stretch your achilles and wear night splints too keep your foot at a 90 degree angle and just wait.
The cause for drop foot is nerve damage. Nerves can take months, years to recover and sometimes they don't recover at all.
Idk why you didnt listen to me bro.
Just be patient now and get rest and stretch. Hopefully your nerves recover from all this lengthening you did. Good luck
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When i made tibia surgery after femur remove fixators I wallk normaly with the helper and when doctor say u have no nails isnide the tibia I stop wallk and few week after stop wallk my foot start to be like this, locked. I think maybe when remove device will be unlocked but not gona happen, i dont know why I stop wallk that us my mistake, now the worst part is i need to go home, im in Instanbul from February soon, border is opet and how can i go home I can't stand up becasue of this drop foot, doctor will visit me tomorow i hope he have same solution
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I think you need to ask for a wheelchair service. I also used this service although I was able to walk a little bit because I have Stryde nails. It is better to be safe!!
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I will tell my doctor to we get out nails and out back bone together, than put nails again and fixators, I will start lengthening again, and i think when he put bones together, remove this 6cm i will be able to stand up, and when i lengthening again I will wallk every day and i hope my foot will folow lengthening process, i cant see other option
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164 cm Octobar 28. 2019 180cm April 2020 i WIN my dream came true
(https://i.ibb.co/RBhRTgn/received-531173787794132.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VQHfYLy)
i thought you "WIN" and your dream came true. why you want to unlengthen mr. meck? i thought everyone commenting was "negative crap people" and you have had no non-union and good healing on bones?
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Read than write , i have no problem with union or similar i have drop foot issue , need do lot of exercise to fix this
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Read than write , i have no problem with union or similar i have drop foot issue , need do lot of exercise to fix this
I thought you WIN? Why undo the LL?
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I won already 16.5cm and i won 100% so fk off you fking idiot, this foot i will fix with time
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My issue is not drop foot i can fell my foot move left or right move with fingers and and made push , this is drop foot on video and i have nothing with this issue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJGL-LV-EzE
my issue call NEUROPRAXIA
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Welcome to the small-tall club Meck (178cm-183cm). You can recover 100% after months of rigorous training. Just stay consistent and you will get better no doubt. Do you think Dr. Buldu would allow me to attempt 10-12cm Femur LON? You completed 9.4cm at ~165cm, but I am 178cm currently. Given my budget, my top two choices right now are Buldu or Kulesh in Russia.
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Welcome to the small-tall club Meck (178cm-183cm). You can recover 100% after months of rigorous training. Just stay consistent and you will get better no doubt. Do you think Dr. Buldu would allow me to attempt 10-12cm Femur LON? You completed 9.4cm at ~165cm, but I am 178cm currently. Given my budget, my top two choices right now are Buldu or Kulesh in Russia.
lol why you asking this guy for advice. he literally regrets his surgery and is complete crippled 6 months post surgery. My guy can't even stand up at all, how's he gonna fix his ballerina foot? no dorsiflexion boots, nothing. just lengthen and keep lengthening until "I WIN". disregarding the 10 other LL veterans in this thread telling him to stop lengthening. at least "I WIN" right?
my guy wants to shorten 6 cm, then fking lengthen again. this is why doctors need to set realistic expectations for their patients BEFORE giving them the surgery.
you win Meck, you win at being disabled for minimum 2.5 years before you can even walk normally again ::)
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My issue is not drop foot i can fell my foot move left or right move with fingers and and made push , this is drop foot on video and i have nothing with this issue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJGL-LV-EzE
my issue call NEUROPRAXIA
Theres different levels of drop foot.
At first i couldnt move my foot at all.
Few weeks later i could move my toes up and down and foot sideways.
1.5 months i could move my foot down
And slowly after that i started being able to lift the foot up like dorsiflexion.
Either way just give it time. DO NOT undo lengthening!
You will just cause more harm to your nerves. Your body just needs time to heal
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@hoopdreams is possible made easy 10cm femur by doctor Halil and for sure is much better option that Russia after my 9.8cm on femur i wallk normaly and it wass very easy, for this guy ghkid2019 who spam my diary i can say only, jelaus is very bad thing, is like sick and I hope you will be jelaus all your life because you not deserve better, and yess im WIN for sure
@Jim dabarbeer thx im sure i will stand up soon i made exercise every day and now i have more space in my foot
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190 CM is look like this
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(https://i.ibb.co/6s7T32M/received-609333946340943.jpg) (https://ibb.co/f0zyhbg)
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Please keep us updated about your recovery and progress Meck.
Did you do all this alone?
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Lol sitting like a boss now eh? do you have any pain during the day? What do your doctor tell you about your recovery? What does he say about your procedure? when do you think you'll be back to normal?
Also please can you ask your doctor this : will you be able to lift weights once this is over?
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@Limewalk I Wil update every time when made samw progress, thx
@Fox i have no pain any more at all, now only use vitamins no need for any painkillers, today first time physiotherapist came and we star do exercise, and he will came 2 time per day every day and he say in 1 month i will be ok normal wallk, i will post update soon, have great day
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Meck, your are trully a legend going from 163 to 180 is really a huge, huge improvement.
When you talk about 190 cm in your photos I guess its because the special shoes you are wearing right now, give you an extra 10 cm correct?
Hope you can keep sharing with us your progress. As you gain some mass in your legs, it would probably look better and better.
Congratulations.
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I do exercise with my physiotherapist 2 time per day now , i train 2 days and today i stand up on heels , is huge progress, yess i say 190 because i use that shoes , i eat much better and when i get more musclesi will wallk better , now is most important i stand up normal without pain and slowly wallk, im possitive im sure will be fine
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any xrays meck? how is callus growth going
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I check first time after surgery xray and is good, tibia start heal very fast and femur almost totally heal. Now i canot made xray im in carantine into hotel, and not possible to i go in hospital or they came to me for xray, but I don't need now anyway, soon Turkish Airlines start fly and i go home. First days at home i will do xray, now most important I walk normaly with this exercises
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when i remove tibia device and made xray i do also litle femur xray to check and this is pic of femur
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Congratz Meck! Your legs and height looks great but becareful and continue to your daily exercises, as you know from now on, most important thing is your physical therapy. I hope your achillies tendon is fine now. But also do not push your self too much since you had both upper and lower leg surgeries very closely. Give some time to your body to heal. Do not rush and be patient ;) :D
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For now i do 2 time per day exercise with physiotherapist
10 in morning and 5pm. We do hard all time and i stand up on heels but is very painful, need more exercise and i think will ve perfect, i have best doctor Halil, so im not worry about my process, most important when i stand up everybody in hotel think i play basketball 🏀
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For now i do 2 time per day exercise with physiotherapist
10 in morning and 5pm. We do hard all time and i stand up on heels but is very painful, need more exercise and i think will ve perfect, i have best doctor Halil, so im not worry about my process, most important when i stand up everybody in hotel think i play basketball 🏀
Keep going meck u look awesome! Proud of u brother 8)
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Thx mate, every day is better i do hard exercises and soon i start wallk normaly, i will post video when success
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I finally stand up in normal sneakers my foot is flat now , but still cant wallk without helper, i will try learn fast to wallk normal
(https://i.ibb.co/6X1z8b6/received-225365778745968.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XY31Dpm)
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Hi Meck
Congratulations, you did a life changing lengthening.
Please keep us updated.
Are you still using the +10 cm special shoes?
Hope you can keep posting photos of your recovery.
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Thx , im not in normal shoes, my foot is flat no more ballerina, now i wallk with crutches, only bad is i have no ballans to wallk without crutches, i do exercise 2 time per day with my physiotherapist, hoope i can soon wallk without any help. Maybe samoone know how long will gone until wallk without crutches
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About the tendon release surgery what did the doctor told you about biceps femoris. It band. Did you meet an older patient
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Congrats for reaching this far, Meck! Please keep us updated with your recovery.
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Hi Meck, were you able to go/drive/fly home after the first days past surgery?
Some general questions about this LON method:
If people do fly home to lengthen at home, are they using crutches, or a wheelchair?
If the LON nail with proper usage of the crutches can bear enough weight to walk around at the airport, what keeps people from flying home?
When I see uploaded videos of people who barely walk,
at what stage are they within the LL process that makes walking most difficult?
-> Is it during final lengthening, or right after the operation, or something else?
I'm just wondering whether lengthening at home is an option after the OP, and if yes, is it an option only for few people whose pain level is low for some reason?
I read that some lie in bed with little pain, so I conclude:
-> The nail with crutches is weight bearing,
-> the pain is low,
-> hence the patient can fly home.
Is this accurate?
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Meck you are legend! Always chase your dreams
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why u dont mention about yor doc?
you are getting ll legend and very important diary on this site.
ı saw yor old commnet yor doc is (ı can guess) halil buldu. ı really shocked he got some bad repıutaiton around.
which hotel you stay ?_ which hospital u operated?
ı am just scared to get 6 cm tibia with LON . ı cant get this for almost 6 years. ı was member of makemetaller member.
hope you great , ı really wanna see your next posts here.
ı hope u keep that cool bro
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Hi Meck,
Any updates on your recovery?
¿How is everything doing? Hope to hear from you soon.
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hes probably crippled. last time he posted he was all fukd up
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hes probably crippled. last time he posted he was all fukd up
What a nasty thing to wish someone. I just hope karma doesn't come for you
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First, 10cmOnTibiaOrGTFO Fu ck of you f....g idiot , i leave this forum because crap like you. Actually im perfect fine i start wallk without crutches before 10 days and now i wallk normally , only cannot run yet . Im still in Istanbul due the corona i have no flight yet. I buy today fly ticket for Serbia Belgrade in 15 June. Hope travel home from there by a car.My surgery wass perfect successfully and im really happy , i reach 181cm from 164 and trust me is really life change. My feel now canot be explain by a words. For everyone who think about this surgery , my advice go for it , dont listen negative people like here on forum , just do it , will be best choice if your life, Have good day to everyone and stay safe.
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hes probably crippled. last time he posted he was all fukd up
Please leave your negativity out man, saying something like that is terrible.
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U'r incredible.
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First, 10cmOnTibiaOrGTFO Fu ck of you f....g idiot , i leave this forum because crap like you. Actually im perfect fine i start wallk without crutches before 10 days and now i wallk normally , only cannot run yet . Im still in Istanbul due the corona i have no flight yet. I buy today fly ticket for Serbia Belgrade in 15 June. Hope travel home from there by a car.My surgery wass perfect successfully and im really happy , i reach 181cm from 164 and trust me is really life change. My feel now canot be explain by a words. For everyone who think about this surgery , my advice go for it , dont listen negative people like here on forum , just do it , will be best choice if your life, Have good day to everyone and stay safe.
Looking great. When are we gonna see a video of your walking? Keep up the PT, good job truly amazing gain 16 cm
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good to hear for you. i thought you were crippled because you stopped posting
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good to hear for you. i thought you were crippled because you stopped posting
Avoid those though, because if you start the procedure, the minimal problem that you have, will affect you negatively, causing an unnecessary anxiety.
Most of people that stop posting is that because they are occupied and their procedure goes well enough to almost forget it and the forum. :)
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Finally the update I was looking hoping for. Looks great Meck. You actually proved a lot of people wrong... including me. Let’s hope the recovery goes smoothly, and don’t forget to keep us update. I’m really hoping for the best. Good luck!
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For everyone who ask video , here i upload is not perfect wallk but is not easy made femur 10cm than without brake tibia 6.5cm and after that 1 month i wallk without crutches, trust me soon i will run.
https://streamable.com/nkkytm
(https://i.ibb.co/GPfDwLz/received-1303359839873125.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Yj4S9MH)
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For everyone who ask video , here i upload is not perfect wallk but is not easy made femur 10cm than without brake tibia 6.5cm and after that 1 month i wallk without crutches, trust me soon i will run.
https://streamable.com/nkkytm
(https://i.ibb.co/GPfDwLz/received-1303359839873125.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Yj4S9MH)
Im pretty sure you have drop foot on your right leg. I can tell by the way you swing your leg and i can clearly see you have no dorsiflexion (meaning you cant lift your foot up) it drops immediately after you lift your foot. I had the same thing as you so i out of all these people here know what drop foot is.
And on top of all this your not wearing normal shoes. Those are not flat shoes at all. Im praying for your recovery man but please stop trying to fool us into thinking your ok
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You are one big idiot, if you have drop foot is your problem, i can move foot up ro down easy before i have ballerina, need 2 cm yo touch the ground o do 2 tjme exercise per day and now my heels touch ground easy and i move normal my foot, this wallk is like this because i just leave crutches and i have no balance yet to wallk normal, but every day im faster and easy to wallk so soon i will wallk normal, drop foot is on your mind dude, if you have, dont try say to others have to to you feel better go f.. ck yourself with your foot, i see on others diary you say people to they have drop foot to, back off idiot, im perfectly fine, will see soon video how i run,
And by the way this is normal sneakers, i buy online before femur and tibia is totally flat, im just 2cm taller in this sneakers but is flat, i also wallk without shoes
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The walking is a great finish for now, 17cm is very very much. Have you considered ATL? Some surgeries suggest it for tibia lenghtening over 4-5cm. Can I know your armspan?
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I'm glad you posted this video. Hope it discourages future patients from doing so much lengthening.
I still wish you good luck on your recovery.
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I'm glad you posted this video. Hope it discourages future patients from doing so much lengthening.
I still wish you good luck on your recovery.
A couple of months ago he had still frames, how should he supposed to be? Do you think doctors are just mad butchers waiting to be reported by their own patients?
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To many bad people here and they like to i be crippled or similar, wtf with people. Jelaus will kill you guys. I remove frame before 1 month and few days, so this wallk is perfect for cm i reach, soon i will wallk better than without surgery,@Tartar my wingspan is 176cm, for those jealous crap persons, to much hate can cause sickness, im perfectly fine
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That's a great starting wingspam, your ape index now is still totally normal. Have you measured your sitting height (or inseam) too?
Hope the best for your recovery!
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Mind posting a barefoot walking video Neck? Looks fine so far, would love to see barefoot as well.
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Your walk during this phase actually looks well all in all. Keep walking and try to bring your heels down first. Thank you for the video, and dont let the haters bring you down, you’re almost there... keep pushing! Would you mind posting a video of yourself walking barefoot? Good luck, Meck!
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Meck glad to see you walking brother. Keep working and ignore the noise! A lot of people will be eating crow when you go down as the greatest LLer of all time
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Your a inspiration Meck, keep us updated, hope your well.
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Hey, meck! How’s everything going so far? How’s your recovery?
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Can we get a quick update Meck? Hope rehab is going well.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CB5Pa1Vp57E/?igshid=pp7p7mjba2hr
Isn’t this Meck?
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How is recovery doing.
¿ Any updates you can give us?, hope everything is going well.
Thanks
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Hye meck
your video is not working please provide a valid link. Thanks
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meck how are you? i hope everything is fine any update we are curious
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Congrats on your surgery Mirnel!! I, and most people on this forum are proud of your hard work and determination. Though it is jarring to some to see someone hitting around 17cm in the time span you did, I think it was very courageous. You knew there were risks, and you stared them down; and overcame. Good job
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5wuHyx9234
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Hi man. Awesome results 17cms, right? How much did you pay for entire surgery in Istanbul?
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Where is now all those guys who says i will have no union no calus and similar crap, check my xray and see by yourself , i did 6.5 cm on tibia becase i scare hospital will close and i will stuck with this, but never mind i do totaly 16 CM and soon i post femur xray is almost heal femur
(https://i.ibb.co/tcHPRTy/IMG-20200415-202450.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jG8ZtP7)
(https://i.ibb.co/pxhrfQX/IMG-20200415-202645.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TkWq41h)
Look at another poor guy
Bone not straight
claiming he got 6.5 cm on tibia
This is not 6.5 cm it is hardly 5 cm
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Hey MEck,
Any updates? Many of us where following your results.
Hope you can post more videos / photos soon.
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Hey MEck,
Any updates? Many of us where following your results.
Hope you can post more videos / photos soon.
Are you following this guy?really?
He think he is a king and he does not want to listen anyone
Even he does not know consequence of what he did
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Hello everyone , i leave this forum i say above will not update nothing more because many many crap people here try to comment bad to make me angry or similar i dont need that , they are stay short and never made surgery, but they know all about better than any doctor , so i will not uplad nothing more here i will say only i feel perfect i wallk normal now , only cant run yet. I visit every day many caffe club and i joke a lot. Now my life is dramatic change. Im 181.5cm now from 164 and everyone when see me cant believe what happen with me. With me now all ok i just have no time for forums any more , now i live my life perfect. User @more , please stay short and die like that you pathetic idiot, I wish you great life everyone else and stop ask for update please is done i go offline forever
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Glad to hear you're doing fine. Congratulations Meck
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Congrats mann!!
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Hello everyone , i leave this forum i say above will not update nothing more because many many crap people here try to comment bad to make me angry or similar i dont need that , they are stay short and never made surgery, but they know all about better than any doctor , so i will not uplad nothing more here i will say only i feel perfect i wallk normal now , only cant run yet. I visit every day many caffe club and i joke a lot. Now my life is dramatic change. Im 181.5cm now from 164 and everyone when see me cant believe what happen with me. With me now all ok i just have no time for forums any more , now i live my life perfect. User @more , please stay short and die like that you pathetic idiot, I wish you great life everyone else and stop ask for update please is done i go offline forever
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This is how Some LL patient misguides future LLrs
Bone not straight , having equinus deformity
wearing high heel shoes . Claiming 17.5 cm ,in reality he did not get 17.5 cm.
Now many potential Limb lengthening patients will think about it oh meck did it why can't i do that and eventually they will endup with complications , financially broken mentally disturbed
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where is your normal walk video?.
please don't misguide to Future LLers. Your whole diary full of lies regarding recovery .Your are a egoist Person.
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Good Job Meck! All the best on your life. You deserve the height, after all you have been through. God bless.
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Hello, Mirnel
I wish the best for you and I can totally understand your anger towards people who are talking way beyond than the respect limits.
But please, remember that this forum is supposed to be a friendly one and please do not cuss anyone like that.
I want to mention it again, all my prayings are with you and I hope you will get the best recovery in the existence of CLL, because the amounts you did are insanely hard to reach and you really need to be brave to undergo such a hard surgery with those numbers.
Please, at least for people like me who are thinking of this surgery, post a video while you are walking. That would help all of us.
Best Regards
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Hello, Mirnel
I wish the best for you and I can totally understand your anger towards people who are talking way beyond than the respect limits.
But please, remember that this forum is supposed to be a friendly one and please do not cuss anyone like that.
I want to mention it again, all my prayings are with you and I hope you will get the best recovery in the existence of CLL, because the amounts you did are insanely hard to reach and you really need to be brave to undergo such a hard surgery with those numbers.
Please, at least for people like me who are thinking of this surgery, post a video while you are walking. That would help all of us.
Best Regards
@ A - Thank you for pointing it this out "I can totally understand your anger towards people who are talking way beyond than the respect limits." = @ more
"Please, at least for people like me who are thinking of this surgery, post a video while you are walking. That would help all of us." - Vs - "where is your normal walk video? Your whole diary full of lies regarding recovery .Your are a egoist Person."
Be nice Dr. X-ray Know It All more.
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Good luck Meck. Ignore the haters :)
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@ A - Thank you for pointing it this out "I can totally understand your anger towards people who are talking way beyond than the respect limits." = @ more
"Please, at least for people like me who are thinking of this surgery, post a video while you are walking. That would help all of us." - Vs - "where is your normal walk video? Your whole diary full of lies regarding recovery .Your are a egoist Person."
Be nice Dr. X-ray Know It All more.
I or anyone ask him to post normal walking video with nice words or rude . he is no going to post walking video because he knows he is not walking normal. he just want to manipulate potential limb lengthening patients . that's it.
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I or anyone ask him to post normal walking video with nice words or rude . he is no going to post walking video because he knows he is not walking normal. he just want to manipulate potential limb lengthening patients . that's it.
@ Dr. X-ray Know it All more - Man, it's getting harder and harder to understand you.
And how would you know for sure, without him posting video. You are too quick to jump to your made up conclusion without the facts nor experience. Thanks to you for running your mouth, now we will never know due to your tone of voice. As many have mentioned to you, this is voluntary but guess you are too low minded to figure that out.
Many, including myself would like to see the video even if we disagree with some of his decisions, but thank you for taking the last stab at the guy. Using your words, where's the "LOGIC," to that? Listen to yourself, logicboi.
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Hye meck
your video is not working please provide a valid link. Thanks
This was my First comment on Meck diary . was i not nice?
i am not a reason . He ( Meck ) does not want to post video, if he is walking normal he should post and say fk @More This is my nornal walk video .
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I agree with More. It’s kinda stupid that we are arguing here though. Doing 17cm lengthening is soo unsafe, risky and stupid PERIOD. Also from Meck’s last video he was in a pretty bad shape. I know it’s also because he’s just finished with the lengthening but I dont see him being able to walk normally and even less running. This is not hatred. This is a fact.
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I agree with More. It’s kinda stupid that we are arguing here though. Doing 17cm lengthening is soo unsafe, risky and stupid PERIOD. Also from Meck’s last video he was in a pretty bad shape. I know it’s also because he’s just finished with the lengthening but I dont see him being able to walk normally and even less running. This is not hatred. This is a fact.
Yes. Perfect reply and Thanks
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I agree with More. It’s kinda stupid that we are arguing here though. Doing 17cm lengthening is soo unsafe, risky and stupid PERIOD. Also from Meck’s last video he was in a pretty bad shape. I know it’s also because he’s just finished with the lengthening but I dont see him being able to walk normally and even less running. This is not hatred. This is a fact.
Good point but who’s arguing. There’s nothing to agree upon if you read and understand my post correctly.
Yes there are decisions he made that we disagree upon but in the end it’s his body and what he or anyone post in their dairy are ALWAYS voluntary so it doesn’t hurt to be nice. Are you not interested in seeing his video of him walking, I sure am but now we might never know.
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This was my First comment on Meck diary . was i not nice?
i am not a reason . He ( Meck ) does not want to post video, if he is walking normal he should post and say fk @More This is my nornal walk video .
It’s never good to try to justify your past actions, it’s best to just learn from it. That’s one of the way to grow as a person, now that’s LOGIC. Right logicboi?
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Mr.Azman who does not want to share a single X-ray want to see walking video of Meck.
LOL ...
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Mr.Azman who does not want to share a single X-ray want to see walking video of Meck.
LOL ...
Dead on 👏👏👏 just not with you Dr. X-ray Know it all More.
Are you really planning on doing CLL or just here to complain and moan, logicboi.
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You are a child. You don't know.
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You are a child. You don't know.
“You are a child” so weak of a comeback 😂🤣😂... Why you 😭😭😭 again?
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Someone is following me like my dog do . Barking without reason
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Someone is following me like my dog do . Barking without reason
Who’s following? Do you know how this forum works? Do you think this is Fb or IG or some social media app😂😂😂? See how dumb that makes you look.
If you have any knowledge of dogs, your reply does not make any sense or should I say logic, right logicboi.
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@Meck my apologies for hi-jacking your dairy but this is entertaining.
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Go and update your diary instead of following me like my dog do .
You also understand this guy Meck is fooling everyone but i dont know what is the connection between you and Meck What i understand You both are biased towards your drs.
and seems like marketing executive.
brother Azman i really don't want to be rude trust me.
but something here going very wrong . I don't want to hurt anyone .
Here in this forum many diaries some are real and trustworthy but some are nonsense and manipulating potential LLrs.
I am following diaries in this forum and old forum i was following too even you did not know about limb lengthening.i have seem enough thats why i understand what is going on.
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Go and update your diary instead of following me like my dog do .
You also understand this guy Meck is fooling everyone but i dont know what is the connection between you and Meck What i understand You both are biased towards your drs.
and seems like marketing executive.
brother Azman i really don't want to be rude trust me.
but something here going very wrong . I don't want to hurt anyone .
Here in this forum many diaries some are real and trustworthy but some are nonsense and manipulating potential LLrs.
I am following diaries in this forum and old forum i was following too even you did not know about limb lengthening.i have seem enough thats why i understand what is going on.
There you go telling people what to do again, yes Master I will obey.
Those are some good points on your reply, I’ll give you that. The only problem I have with “Dr. X-ray Know it all more” is that you run your mouth way too often on this forum without the facts to back up your ignorant comments.
Apologizing for hi-jacking someone dairy is just the right thing to do or you man enough to apologize for your wrong doing? Biased? Do you even know what that word mean?
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Okay . let's talk about Meck as an example
he said he did 17.5 cm . For 17.5 cm you need 175 days only lengthening ( According to 1 mm per day)
There is 7 to 10 days gap between surgery and lengthening
let's assume 8 days as an average , so it becomes 175+8+8=191( 6 month and more than a week)
He did external procedure , In external procedure you will never get 100% lengthening ,there is always 15 to 25 % loss
( In the case of internal method like precice or stryde it is almost 100)
let's assume he lost 20% it means he have to add 30 to 35 days
191+ 30 = 221 days(7 and half of month) only lengthening
he had surgery in last week of October -19 and finished his lengthening in 15th April 2020.
within 5 and half month he got 17.5 cm
This is impossible and all his diary is full of lies
I just want to warn future LLrs please don't follow anyone with blind eyes ,
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Okay . let's talk about Meck as an example
he said he did 17.5 cm . For 17.5 cm you need 175 days only lengthening ( According to 1 mm per day)
There is 7 to 10 days gap between surgery and lengthening
let's assume 8 days as an average , so it becomes 175+8+8=191( 6 month and more than a week)
He did external procedure , In external procedure you will never get 100% lengthening ,there is always 15 to 25 % loss
( In the case of internal method like precice or stryde it is almost 100)
let's assume he lost 20% it means he have to add 30 to 35 days
191+ 30 = 221 days(7 and half of month) only lengthening
he had surgery in last week of October -19 and finished his lengthening in 15th April 2020.
within 5 and half month he got 17.5 cm
This is impossible and all his diary is full of lies
I just want to warn future LLrs please don't follow anyone with blind eyes ,
Well,
I hate this beef and I want you all to be civil, but what you've said makes too much sense.
I want Meck to explain this situation too.
Also Meck, I hope you are having a great recovery brother, everything will be fine sooner or later.
Best Regards
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Okay . let's talk about Meck as an example
he said he did 17.5 cm . For 17.5 cm you need 175 days only lengthening ( According to 1 mm per day)
There is 7 to 10 days gap between surgery and lengthening
let's assume 8 days as an average , so it becomes 175+8+8=191( 6 month and more than a week)
He did external procedure , In external procedure you will never get 100% lengthening ,there is always 15 to 25 % loss
( In the case of internal method like precice or stryde it is almost 100)
let's assume he lost 20% it means he have to add 30 to 35 days
191+ 30 = 221 days(7 and half of month) only lengthening
he had surgery in last week of October -19 and finished his lengthening in 15th April 2020.
within 5 and half month he got 17.5 cm
This is impossible and all his diary is full of lies
I just want to warn future LLrs please don't follow anyone with blind eyes ,
Now that's a good reply, see you're learning after all. Good job in doing your homework.
"This is impossible and all his diary is full of lies" = False and Bias, or should I say "Biased" ;D
Is this dairy a marketing stunt for that doctor? Doesn't take much to figure that out.
Never the less, Meck is still an human being that did CLL and hopefully we all can wish him a good recovery, regardless if we disagree with some of his actions.
Don't forget CLL is physical and psychological during all phases.
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Meck came through Wannabetaller.com in Turkey . This wannabetaller.com is a medical tourism company .
what can You expect ??
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I wish to Meck a good recovery .some day he will recover and will live a normal life.
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I read all crap what you guys write and i really dont know why im ansver at all. I went in this journey alone and noone help me or explain anything and i finish this alone and im succes so i dont wannt explain nothing to anyone , is my life and is finish with lenthening , my pain gone now i live perfect life i buy 2 SUV for me to drive and my bones heal, dont have time now for forum and fight with unknow people here to explain. My surgey do Halil Buldu not wannabetaller and i think im 16.5 reach but when i checked im 17cm and i lenthening almost evry day 1.5 mm. I will find sameone to record video of how i wallk to post here and finish this madness about that . This is my FB and anyone who write diary is fake or similar can find me on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/CivicMirnel
This is my last xray made Femur and tibia and my new toys , so please stop write here bad and write me to explain anything im finish with lengthening
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I decide to stay in hotel this time until lengthening done on tibia, becasue I don't have internal nail and this fixator move to much i have feeling will broke every moment. So better for me stay into hotel and finish lengthening and remove fixator and get nail inside, becasue when I stand up now my bones move to much inside and is danger go home like this, I will try lengthening litle faster 1.5mm sametime 2mm per day and i will give my best
I will try 1.5 or 2 mm per day
This was your comment at that time You already finished femur and were almost half lengthening on tibia.
again You are lying and fooling future LLrs You did 1.5 mm per day.
Second thing Your callus look like bone grafting in tibia.
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You bloody idiot with your bad life who smap all diary , i made in start on february tibia and i remove nails in 15 april i reach 7 cm , many time i do 6 time per day not 4 to finish soon and remove device in 2 month i reach 7 cm on tibia and if you say xray is fake i think you are totaly idiot , if they banned you from this forum i will be back and update diary all time , i cant be here if have one idiot like you to made me angry with no reason
i give my facebook above to pepole can see me im real and im now 181cm , so fu ck off
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You bloody idiot with your bad life to smap all diary , i made in start on february tibia and i remove nails in 15 april i reach 7 cm , many time i do 6 time per day to finish soon and remove device in 2 month i reach 7 cm and if you say xray is fake i think you are totaly idiot , if they banned you from this forum i will be back and update diary all time , i cant be here if have one idiot like you to made me angry with no reason
i give my facebook above to pepole can see me im real and im now 181cm , so fu ck off
Meck keep posting . I will never come back to your diary.
let's move forward.
Post whatever You want to
I posted some facts those are enough for a potential patients
be strong Bye bye... forever
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Hello, Mirnel
Please keep updating your diary. As the user "more" said, he will not post any further thing into your diary.
Don't let future LL'ers down please.
I wish you the best recovery brother.
Best Regards
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You have given the people of CLL Community an ideal to strive towards, you have showed them how you accomplished this in a very short period of time. You do not need to proof anything, unlike many people who had this surgery, you decided to share your experience and went through all this by your self. So keep moving forward, both Dr Halil and i wish you the best. ✌🏼✌🏼
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You have given the people of CLL Community an ideal to strive towards, you have showed them how you accomplished this in a very short period of time. You do not need to proof anything, unlike many people who had this surgery, you decided to share your experience and went through all this by your self. So keep moving forward, both Dr Halil and i wish you the best. ✌🏼✌🏼
Now that's was nice of you.
Dirty dirty sleazy sleazy SalesMan.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B1_hdLVHQdu/ = Sleaz Bag Flea Bag @MuratEkinci
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Do the moderators of these forums have their head up their a$$. This is starting to turn into harassment against Meck. Moderator, do your actual job and ban the idiots. I understand the people who warned him not to lengthen so much but there is no need to repeat it 100 times over and over again. All advise against certain amounts of LL is fine but once you have your say f*ck off and sleep.
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I agree. There are so many trolls on this forum.
There should also be an upvote, and downvote system on comments; so people know whether other agree with them or not.
I do not agree with all these people trashing on Meck. Give the guy a break.
I honestly think people are a little jealous he got the height he did.
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I agree. There are so many trolls on this forum.
There should also be an upvote, and downvote system on comments; so people know whether other agree with them or not.
I do not agree with all these people trashing on Meck. Give the guy a break.
I honestly think people are a little jealous he got the height he did.
Although I think some may genuinely have concern for Meck simply because their body cannot handle what Meck can and they assume Mecks body would not be able to handle as much.
People on this forum are greedy fu*ckers, they got X-ray photos, photos of Meck and even his facebook profile. Now, Meck pretty much went in and got everything done really fast, although personally I would rather take my time if I were doing the lengths he did, there are many who would have gotten jealous. He is fine now, and people don’t believe that here, they want more videos so they can expose him like they have with others in the past. I am on the forums 1) To kill time during covid19 and 2) Get as much information as I can on the doctors before I go forward with my procedure.
After seeing how Meck and Overdozer were practically walked all over, I have no desire to post any kind of diary.
People are forgetting that in the early 2000s larger lengthening cases were much more common than they are now.
I remember there was this guy about a year ago who joined the forums, he was a patient of a doctor from Ukraine I forget his name. Anyway, this guy had done lengthening years before he actually joined the forums and he was fully recovered. He started posting his experience and hear this, he provided the forum with 6 or more videos of him at the gym including a full 15 minute jogging video and without any edits. What happens next? The haters who just linger around these forums like parasites come out of their holes and accuse this guy of promoting his doctor and deceiving everyone. Needless to say he quit and deleted all his videos and photos while at it. So I left the forums at the time too and I know 2 others who have successfully lengthened this without making a diary or even looking through anything on these forums.
There are groups all over the world created by many for information on LL, this forum while it is the only forum, it’s not the only source of information.
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Although I think some may genuinely have concern for Meck simply because their body cannot handle what Meck can and they assume Mecks body would not be able to handle as much.
People on this forum are greedy fu*ckers, they got X-ray photos, photos of Meck and even his facebook profile. Now, Meck pretty much went in and got everything done really fast, although personally I would rather take my time if I were doing the lengths he did, there are many who would have gotten jealous. He is fine now, and people don’t believe that here, they want more videos so they can expose him like they have with others in the past. I am on the forums 1) To kill time during covid19 and 2) Get as much information as I can on the doctors before I go forward with my procedure.
After seeing how Meck and Overdozer were practically walked all over, I have no desire to post any kind of diary.
People are forgetting that in the early 2000s larger lengthening cases were much more common than they are now.
I remember there was this guy about a year ago who joined the forums, he was a patient of a doctor from Ukraine I forget his name. Anyway, this guy had done lengthening years before he actually joined the forums and he was fully recovered. He started posting his experience and hear this, he provided the forum with 6 or more videos of him at the gym including a full 15 minute jogging video and without any edits. What happens next? The haters who just linger around these forums like parasites come out of their holes and accuse this guy of promoting his doctor and deceiving everyone. Needless to say he quit and deleted all his videos and photos while at it. So I left the forums at the time too and I know 2 others who have successfully lengthened this without making a diary or even looking through anything on these forums.
There are groups all over the world created by many for information on LL, this forum while it is the only forum, it’s not the only source of information.
Sheesh. Sad to hear about that guy who trolled out of the LL community. He was genuinely trying to share his LL journey, like Meck.
Yeah, when I get my surgery done in a few months; I am definitely not posting a diary on here. Too toxic.
Thanks for sharing all this information. I appreciate it.
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I want to make a point clear.
As I see there is generally a ten percent difference between xray and actual measurement so Meck disnot lenghtened 9.4 but it is 9.4 - 0.94 = 8.5 also his doctor should have measured his growth from the middle of the bone but he did from long side which added close to 5mms. So I think Meck actually lenghtened his femur 8cm not 9.4cm. It is also same for the tibia. So you people can stop blaming him for doing something unnatural.
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how was your healing process? Is your walk the same as before
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Hello everyone im feel great and enjoy my new life , i made Instagram ,there i will post videos and photos , i recovery very well
https://www.instagram.com/mirnelcivic/?hl=en
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glad to see you meck
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How is your walk, can you take a video
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You look great despite the huge height increase. Natural result. Have you already started to do some gym exercise for your legs?
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Only my legs wass short femur and titbia , my wingspan is 176 cm and now i look natural 181 cm , i do exeercise every day, buy my private fitness and spend there much time, everything is great now
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Congratulations meck. You looking great man!
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Thx mate , now is all great i have only one isssue for now i do exercise every day but still canot get 6-packs on my stomach, i lose about 25 kg during surgery , hope soon i get more muscle and 6 pack on my belly
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Meck I would worry about body shape later. You should eat as much protein as you can for now. Get that bone to remodel and shape stronger for now. Cut calories later. Eat as much as you can, specifically protein and calcium and vitamin d, k2.
Get that bone looking good, then do a cut while working out
Eat more brother remember ur bones need that food everyday.
You will get six pack later ;) no rush meck, you got this
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I’m glad to see an update from you, Meck. Started to get worried... How’s everything going with recovery? How’s your walk, and also can you post pictures of your current x rays?
Glad you’re back, bud. Keep grinding and overcome your obstacles! Many people on this forum have your back, so you can come and vent here whenever you need to.
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Meck I would worry about body shape later. You should eat as much protein as you can for now. Get that bone to remodel and shape stronger for now. Cut calories later. Eat as much as you can, specifically protein and calcium and vitamin d, k2.
Get that bone looking good, then do a cut while working out
Eat more brother remember ur bones need that food everyday.
You will get six pack later ;) no rush meck, you got this
I agree with Ghkid, Meck. The most important thing at this moment is your recovery. It’ll be way easier if you fully recover first and then go all out in the gym. The gym is a vital part of your rehabilitation, don’t get me wrong, but you should prioritize getting your legs back to normal-ish over getting abs.
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Holy sh*t Meck, you lengthened too fast which is literally impossible to bear for most of the people but seems like you got this!
I'm so glad for you, but please don't try to get 6 packs or anything. There are things you need to focus first. Everything has their own priority.
Drink milk, get extra vitamin pills, sleep well. You are 5'11 now. It's a great height, I'm pretty sure you'll enjoy it even better and mucher after your bones are fully healed. You need to focus on their healing now, so please take care of yourself and focus on training (most importantly scretching) the legs rather than training the upper body.
Also, could you please provide walking gait videos if you can, I'd understand if you don't wanna do it. I'm just asking because I also consider Halil Buldu and I just wanted to see your condition, and x-rays.
Good Luck, Mirnel
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I understand all must eat good and be carefull with training soon i will find samoene to record me wallk barefoot, i made this place for me only and i spend here many time do exercise every day, for now is great, thx everyone and have nice day
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Mirnel, don't mind me asking please.
But what is your job? You seem to be pretty rich. It's so great for you.
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Hi Mirnel! You look good! What’s your sitting height/inseam? If you measured it
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If i am not wrong then i think meck would look like professional MMA ufc fighter max holloway..that guy also has a wingspan of 175cm and a height of 5'11 with 42 inch legs..those are really good and long legs.😊
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I wish i also look like meck in the future..it is my dream to be 5'11..i also have a 178cm wingspan..and a current height if 171cm..need 10cm🥺🥺..wld probably go for a 5cm split on both femur and tibia for a conservative and safe length according to CLL standards...meck u r really a true inspiration for me🥺.
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5'4" / 164 cm frame with a 6'4" / 193 cm person's legs, take the average ¹⁶⁴⁄₂⁺¹⁹³⁄₂ = 178.5 cm ≈ 5' 10.3" which is more likely to be his real height than 6', since direct bone growth and lengthening doesn't correspond to the exact height growth.
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Now the rationale:
In general the upper-body to lower-body ratio is 1:1 after preadolescence The U/L ratio (upper body segment : lower body segment) at birth is about 1.7; at age 3 years it is 1.3; at greater than 7 years, it is 1.0 with the upper body segment and lower body segment being about equal
https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1948024-technique#:~:text=The%20U%2FL%20ratio%20(upper,body%20segment%20being%20about%20equal. (https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1948024-technique#:~:text=The%20U%2FL%20ratio%20(upper,body%20segment%20being%20about%20equal.)
The "lower segment" is the distance from the symphysis pubis to the plantar surface of the foot and represents the "limb" contribution to total height. At birth the normal upper to lower segment ratio is 1.7:1. The legs grow more rapidly than the trunk, and by age 10 the segments are equal and remain so in adults.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK243/#:~:text=The%20%22lower%20segment%22%20is%20the,and%20remain%20so%20in%20adults. (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK243/#:~:text=The%20%22lower%20segment%22%20is%20the,and%20remain%20so%20in%20adults.)
Meek's legs are ¹⁶⁴⁄₂ = 82 cm tall while a 6'4"/193 cm person's legs are ¹⁹³⁄₂ = 96.5 cm. Since he lengthened 16 cm he added 82+16=98 cm but since it doesn't directly correspond to height growth it's closer to more or less ≈ 96 cm.
Meek's basically has become the slender man with potential joint problems:
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With that math, seems like i'll have the legs of a 197cm guy standing at 185cm after my 12 cm lengthening.
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tfw I already look like how Meck looks after 16+ cm lengthening
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Rip.
tfw I already look like how Meck looks after 16+ cm lengthening
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Therefore, the extension should be max 6-7 cm. Of course, it would be disguised with some clothes
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Yo dude ZUCC...i think u r leonardo da vinci himself..u r the 1 who devised the vitruvian men design..😑..who told u that a always has a 1:1 upper to lower body ratio😆..dude my legs are 39 inches long n i am only 67 inches..does that look like a 1:1 ratio to you....find me even 1 guy who has a perfect 1:1 ratio in this matter😆..i bet u will work ur ass off n wont be able to find 1..its true CLL wld fk up ur proportions for worse or good..but its upto u how much trade of u want for height vs proportions.
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The only guy i found close to 1:1 ratio is michael phelps with 76 inch height with 39 inch legs..that too 1 inch longer legs than a perfect 1:1 ratio..and mark my words guys that dude is a olympic 23 times gold medalist in swimming..and it his super large torso has a very key role on tht account..his torso is way bigger than a average persons..even for a 6 feet guy his torso would be very big..swimmers tend to have bigger torsos then legs..it helps them a lot in swimming...to cut the water with efficiency.
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Now the rationale:
In general the upper-body to lower-body ratio is 1:1 after preadolescence https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1948024-technique#:~:text=The%20U%2FL%20ratio%20(upper,body%20segment%20being%20about%20equal. (https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1948024-technique#:~:text=The%20U%2FL%20ratio%20(upper,body%20segment%20being%20about%20equal.)
Meek's legs are ¹⁶⁴⁄₂ = 82 cm tall while a 6'4"/193 cm person's legs are ¹⁹³⁄₂ = 96.5 cm. Since he lengthened 16 cm he added 82+16=98 cm but since it doesn't directly correspond to height growth it's closer to more or less ≈ 96 cm.
Meek's basically has become the slender man with potential joint problems:
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/venturiantale/images/7/70/Slenderman.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/340?cb=20170424063154)
You have lost so much time to write a no sense sentence lol
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The only guy i found close to 1:1 ratio is michael phelps with 76 inch height with 39 inch legs..that too 1 inch longer legs than a perfect 1:1 ratio..and mark my words guys that dude is a olympic 23 times gold medalist in swimming..and it his super large torso has a very key role on tht account..his torso is way bigger than a average persons..even for a 6 feet guy his torso would be very big..swimmers tend to have bigger torsos then legs..it helps them a lot in swimming...to cut the water with efficiency.
Telling the truth I don’t think that Phelps is so short legged, he’s just slightly on the short side. What makes appear his torso longer is how wide and how broad his shoulders are, in addition he has not an hypertrophic chest or abdomen so it looks even longer
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In this thread, scientifically illiterate imbeciles that doesn't know what general means and cannot read the relevant literature.
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You don't know what you are talking about, you have made some elementary school calculations without any sense pretending that's science.
Are you assuming that everybody in the world has a leg to body ratio of 1:1? Are we all identical? Maybe made with a 3D printer? ;D
Body proportion are different in every person...inseam to body ratio for example in NORMAL population is between 0,42 and 0,50. This should be enough to let you think about your claim before telling people that they are ignorant.
In addition it's impolite to jeer a person like Meck, who has shared with all of us his experience and showed us his good final result.
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You don't know what you are talking about, you have made some elementary school calculations without any sense pretending that's science.
Are you assuming that everybody in the world has a leg to body ratio of 1:1? Are we all identical? Maybe made with a 3D printer? ;D
Body proportion are different in every person...inseam to body ratio for example in NORMAL population is between 0,42 and 0,50. This should be enough to let you think about your claim before telling people that they are ignorant.
In addition it's impolite to jeer a person like Meck, who has shared with all of us his experience and showed us his good final result.
It seems you're butthurt about the fact that I hurt your boy's feelings, is that why you're reasoning emotionally instead of using logic and citing sources that corroborates your hogwash?
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Can we be nice. Like Meck already did his surgery, even if you disliked the results and blame him, it's already done, so if it's considered a bad result to y'all then you really don't have to rub salt on the wound. He can't do anything about it now, or change and go back, and if hes still recovering mind that so just be wary and les just view the diary as a diary and not our editorial thanks y'alls
And so far Meck seems to be happy about it, so.let it be, maybe open a thread in proportions subforum to discuss how to lengthen good.proportions
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Can we be nice. Like Meck already did his surgery, even if you disliked the results and blame him, it's already done, so if it's considered a bad result to y'all then you really don't have to rub salt on the wound. He can't do anything about it now, or change and go back, and if hes still recovering mind that so just be wary and les just view the diary as a diary and not our editorial thanks y'alls
And so far Meck seems to be happy about it, so.let it be, maybe open a thread in proportions subforum to discuss how to lengthen good.proportions
I don't know if you're referring to me or not since you explicitly didn't say but I never expressed disapproval nor derision at his stupid decision to lengthen beyond what's putatively known as "safe". I just said that his body will resemble the "slenderman" character because of body ratios and alluded the potential complications he'll face in the future, which any reputable CLL doctor would say to him btw. My post:
5'4" / 164 cm frame with a 6'4" / 193 cm person's legs, take the average ¹⁶⁴⁄₂⁺¹⁹³⁄₂ = 178.5 cm ≈ 5' 10.3" which is more likely to be his real height than 6', since direct bone growth and lengthening doesn't correspond to the exact height growth.
Now the rationale:
In general the upper-body to lower-body ratio is 1:1 after preadolescence
The U/L ratio (upper body segment : lower body segment) at birth is about 1.7; at age 3 years it is 1.3; at greater than 7 years, it is 1.0 with the upper body segment and lower body segment being about equal
https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1948024-technique#:~:text=The%20U%2FL%20ratio%20(upper,body%20segment%20being%20about%20equal. (https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1948024-technique#:~:text=The%20U%2FL%20ratio%20(upper,body%20segment%20being%20about%20equal.)
At birth the normal upper to lower segment ratio is 1.7:1. The legs grow more rapidly than the trunk, and by age 10 the segments are equal and remain so in adults.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK243/#:~:text=The%20%22lower%20segment%22%20is%20the,and%20remain%20so%20in%20adults. (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK243/#:~:text=The%20%22lower%20segment%22%20is%20the,and%20remain%20so%20in%20adults.)
Meek's legs are ¹⁶⁴⁄₂ = 82 cm tall while a 6'4"/193 cm person's legs are ¹⁹³⁄₂ = 96.5 cm. Since he lengthened 16 cm he added 82+16=98 cm but since it doesn't directly correspond to height growth it's closer to more or less ≈ 96 cm.
Meek's basically has become the slender man with potential joint problems:
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/venturiantale/images/7/70/Slenderman.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/340?cb=20170424063154)
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To me, that's an insensitive intented attack. Just my two cents. May not be the case. Oh wells
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You don't know nothing about Meck proportion that's the point, you're doing this no sense speech you're just showing that you are not able to understand what is an average ratio
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Today i made first xray after 11 days of lenthening, so far reach about 2,5 cm , have pain in my left leg , deep deep pain in bone , but i think will be fine
(https://i.ibb.co/cXt0VSs/Screenshot-20200306-183545-com-whatsapp.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mFtkgVP)
No look right. Is this right? Meck you walk good?
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No look right. Is this right? Meck you walk good?
That was before the nail was put in. Please read the whole thread before making toxic remarks. Thanks
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These are the latest images of Mecks recovery.
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I read all crap what you guys write and i really dont know why im ansver at all. I went in this journey alone and noone help me or explain anything and i finish this alone and im succes so i dont wannt explain nothing to anyone , is my life and is finish with lenthening , my pain gone now i live perfect life i buy 2 SUV for me to drive and my bones heal, dont have time now for forum and fight with unknow people here to explain. My surgey do Halil Buldu not wannabetaller and i think im 16.5 reach but when i checked im 17cm and i lenthening almost evry day 1.5 mm. I will find sameone to record video of how i wallk to post here and finish this madness about that . This is my FB and anyone who write diary is fake or similar can find me on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/CivicMirnel
This is my last xray made Femur and tibia and my new toys , so please stop write here bad and write me to explain anything im finish with lengthening
(https://i.ibb.co/F6jv8Xn/received-796863241123029.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BLSDTGw)
(https://i.ibb.co/GFY5h4b/received-3190281904383772.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kMbSdsW)
(https://i.ibb.co/pZ3J5qF/Screenshot-20200724-093528-com-facebook-katana.jpg) (https://ibb.co/J2z5gZJ)
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Now the rationale:
In general the upper-body to lower-body ratio is 1:1 after preadolescence https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1948024-technique#:~:text=The%20U%2FL%20ratio%20(upper,body%20segment%20being%20about%20equal. (https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1948024-technique#:~:text=The%20U%2FL%20ratio%20(upper,body%20segment%20being%20about%20equal.)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK243/#:~:text=The%20%22lower%20segment%22%20is%20the,and%20remain%20so%20in%20adults. (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK243/#:~:text=The%20%22lower%20segment%22%20is%20the,and%20remain%20so%20in%20adults.)
Meek's legs are ¹⁶⁴⁄₂ = 82 cm tall while a 6'4"/193 cm person's legs are ¹⁹³⁄₂ = 96.5 cm. Since he lengthened 16 cm he added 82+16=98 cm but since it doesn't directly correspond to height growth it's closer to more or less ≈ 96 cm.
Meek's basically has become the slender man with potential joint problems:
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/venturiantale/images/7/70/Slenderman.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/340?cb=20170424063154)
But also better than being short
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But also better than being short
This.
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Yo Meck!!
It’s been quite sometime since your last post on the forum. We’ve been eagerly waiting for you to post something. You’ve become somewhat of a legend around here lol. I think I can speak for everyone when I say I hope you update us soon. It would be greatly appreciated. Take care!
Sky
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Shut off the haters of this forums. They be hatin cuz they aint playin. Especially this guy Zucc what’s his face. He is jealous because he’ll probably never get the cash to go through this. You can easily tell that he’s miserable with his life just by the fact that he’s in this forum hating at a guy who’s actually achieving his dreams.
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Do it for the homies who’ve been rooting for you through thick and thin, reading your every update and supporting you from afar.
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Hi All,
I have been following him on Instagram... he got a new tattoo, spending quality time with his girlfriend and driving an amazing car listening to some turkey music.... he also loves the pool.
He is a badass and hope things work out for him in future as well...
I understand people were trying to help him realize the risk associated with this insane lengthening but at one point they turned toxic and made him leave the forum... too bad we will never know how he is ACTUALLY doing.
Regards
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Sorry for my out-of-date reply...You left from this forum long time ago.
Anyway,let's say fk to that guy named ZUCC.
I think he came here for stopping us from LL.That's what I thought.
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Now the raptionale:
In general the upper-body to lower-body ratio is 1:1 after preadolescence https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1948024-technique#:~:text=The%20U%2FL%20ratio%20(upper,body%20segment%20being%20about%20equal. (https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1948024-technique#:~:text=The%20U%2FL%20ratio%20(upper,body%20segment%20being%20about%20equal.)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK243/#:~:text=The%20%22lower%20segment%22%20is%20the,and%20remain%20so%20in%20adults. (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK243/#:~:text=The%20%22lower%20segment%22%20is%20the,and%20remain%20so%20in%20adults.)
Meek's legs are ¹⁶⁴⁄₂ = 82 cm tall while a 6'4"/193 cm person's legs are ¹⁹³⁄₂ = 96.5 cm. Since he lengthened 16 cm he added 82+16=98 cm but since it doesn't directly correspond to height growth it's closer to more or less ≈ 96 cm.
Meek's basically has become the slender man with potential joint problems:
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/venturiantale/images/7/70/Slenderman.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/340?cb=20170424063154)
So u meant our upper body and lower body wont develop anymore after preadole.?
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Look at another poor guy
Bone not straight
claiming he got 6.5 cm on tibia
This is not 6.5 cm it is hardly 5 cm
X-rays can measure precisely lengthened bone length decimally not along the vertical directions from the tops to the ground.End of story.
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It's not the looks bro..google it and u will find how long his legs are.
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Bumping this.
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Hello Meck
how are you?
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He does not even answer. Good luck Meck. My prayers are with you. I quit the forum for months, when I came back I thought you'd rescue already. Seems like you didn't. I wish the best for you g.
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Meck is doing fine. He is active on his Instagram.
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Meck is doing fine. He is active on his Instagram.
I saw his instagram , posting just standing pictures doesn't say he is doing fine.
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What happened to this guy
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He hasn't posted anything in 6+ months. But he's almost online on the forum everyday. I hope everything is going well Meck. But doesn't seem so.
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Meck, you are amazing. Thanks for sharing your journey.
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Hello everyone, I recovery 100%, before i have problem on left leg , have ballerina and i try al to put my heel on the ground,nothing help me and i visit one doctor here in my country and he fix me totally , made surgery on my left achile tendon and after that i wass put my heel on the ground and now i wallk normaly. Only my legs are still tiny but i do exercise every day, I made for myself fitnes where i do all what need for my body , and buy new cars to have new toys with my new life. I cant explain how different now is with this height ,is like dream and everyone who think about it , listen my advice and do it. Im now new person, thx to doctor here in Bosnia he fix me up, because of corona i cant travel to Istanbul i do my surgery here and works like charm. I wish all the best to everyone here and happy journey to new height
(https://i.ibb.co/bgLNktn/IMG-20210401-101950.jpg) (https://ibb.co/svQsZ7r)
(https://i.ibb.co/ZG2YCkJ/rpt.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YP0yGqW)
(https://i.ibb.co/RSxwnsM/IMG-20210102-155354.jpg) (https://ibb.co/th7rfvN)
(https://i.ibb.co/yWN9ZLy/IMG-20210125-152049.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vZcFT2P)
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(https://i.ibb.co/MnzgMz9/IMG-20210310-231432.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Q9WJrWX)
(https://i.ibb.co/hB7YSmp/IMG-20210401-172509.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fk1Dsxm)
(https://i.ibb.co/jhfWRF5/IMG-20210401-192746.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gy9PVC7)
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Congratulations Meck! You looking good :)
P.S. Damn you have your own tanning booth and jacuzzi ;D ;D
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WTF posting just standing picture and 80° knee bending and he is saying 100% recovered ,
The best thing he posted car picture LOL
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Congrats, hope you are enjoying your life now
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Congrats, hope you are enjoying your life now
Posting car picture with disability doesn't mean enjoying life ,
These pictures are completely misguidance to potential LLrs.
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dear Meck,
congrats on your happiness.
can you do the athletic activities like squats and running? it will be an inspiration to many that you did your goal achieve of big length and came back to the athletic activities.
cheers,
sergio
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I cant run yet but i wallk normaly like any other person , only cant runing yet and is hard to climb the stairs because my muscle in legs not yet grow but i climp litle slow alsmot normal and every day is better , but for wallk is normal this is my last xray. Now everything is easy for me , this is the best choose in my life and i will doing again any time if the prize is this, I will go again offline i just came to say im doing fine recovery
(https://i.ibb.co/0nGfdN0/Screenshot-20210403-211726-com-whatsapp.jpg) (https://ibb.co/p1L39DH)
(https://i.ibb.co/HYzWCFd/Screenshot-20210403-211733-com-whatsapp.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TR8V1vL)
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I cant run yet but i wallk normaly like any other person , only cant runing yet and is hard to climb the stairs because my muscle in legs not yet grow but i climp litle slow alsmot normal and every day is better , but for wallk is normal this is my last xray. Now everything is easy for me , this is the best choose in my life and i will doing again any time if the prize is this, I will go again offline i just came to say im doing fine recovery
(https://i.ibb.co/0nGfdN0/Screenshot-20210403-211726-com-whatsapp.jpg) (https://ibb.co/p1L39DH)
(https://i.ibb.co/HYzWCFd/Screenshot-20210403-211733-com-whatsapp.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TR8V1vL)
Someone who did limb lengthening know very well going upstairs is easy but going downstairs is very hard
if you are feeling going upstairs is hard for you that's mean you are fkd up.
Stop fooling New patients
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Because idiots like this user More i don't want be here to explain new users all about lengthening, for me is hard going up or down, but i walk upstairs with litle paim in my femur, so please go from my thread idiot, many people leave this forum becasue scam persons like this user More
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I am also doing LON femurs with Buldu (6cm so far and want 7cm). Did any other doctor told you when you may be able to run again? I understand you grew a lot but you finished more than a year ago. Good luck and thanks for your time!
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More f off this Forum.
hey Meck, how is your knee bending?
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I cant run yet but i wallk normaly like any other person , only cant runing yet and is hard to climb the stairs because my muscle in legs not yet grow but i climp litle slow alsmot normal and every day is better , but for wallk is normal this is my last xray. Now everything is easy for me , this is the best choose in my life and i will doing again any time if the prize is this, I will go again offline i just came to say im doing fine
Hi Meck, can you walk long distances without swelling and pain as well? Or how long can you walk without pause and pain?
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More f off this Forum.
hey Meck, how is your knee bending?
why f off, is this Your forum ? He already posted knee bending picture , can't you see? his knee bending is less than 80°. And he is saying 100% recovered, even he can't climb the stairs , He is completely lying about his experience.
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How is not being able to run(even slowly) called 100%? People who says back to 100% with analogies like this mislead new patients into doing this surgery thinking is a breeze should not be allowed here. It's so unethical and most idealistic people looking just for a simple height boost have no idea what they are getting themselves into. I would call being able to walk up and down the stairs smoothly and do a moderate jog being close to full recovery and not this.
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Wtf is with this people ,why they wannt i get cripled ,and ask me why im not online any more , this user More is Leech and idiot. Is that jelaus or what and why , you should be happy i reach 17 cm in 6 month from 2 surgery and nothing happen to me i wallk normal i just say is like hard climb upstairs and i can made my knee normal like before that picture above i post to show my legs how tiny is here picture to see i can do normal bending knee and please anyone can send me link to i upload video to show i can wallk normally
(https://i.ibb.co/BfXbvF7/IMG-20210404-194218.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yNwtK7M)
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https://streamable.com/upload-video
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Meck, don't worry too much about other people's comment. It is their opinion and sure they have a right to say whatever they want but this is your own life! If you are happy then you are happy! :) Keep the good feelings
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Meck, dont worry about these haters. They can bark like dogs but their height still wont change cause they dont have money/ dont have balls to do LL
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Wtf is with this people ,why they wannt i get cripled ,and ask me why im not online any more , this user More is Leech and idiot. Is that jelaus or what and why , you should be happy i reach 17 cm in 6 month from 2 surgery and nothing happen to me i wallk normal i just say is like hard climb upstairs and i can made my knee normal like before that picture above i post to show my legs how tiny is here picture to see i can do normal bending knee and please anyone can send me link to i upload video to show i can wallk normally
(https://i.ibb.co/BfXbvF7/IMG-20210404-194218.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yNwtK7M)
This is still 80° knee bending , taking picture from different angle will not improve your knee bending . And you are again lying that you did 17 cm . please stop fooling new patient . I already exposed you how much you did.
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Meck, dont worry about these haters. They can bark like dogs but their height still wont change cause they dont have money/ dont have balls to do LL
This is not aboit hate . He is a liar
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That is more than 80 degree knee-bending More, it is more like 120 or so. Math is not that difficult.
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Please show us a video of you walking. I really want to believe that a decent recovery is possible, it will be very motivational to me.
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Here video from yesterday i wass on pool and i wallk normally i can litle run also, i have simple slippers on legs because is flor wet, my bones is not yet connected i need few more months and bones from titia will be connect tibula and titbia to , femur bones is good almost connect 100%
when tibia bones connect i will run , for now i can wallk long distance without problem , only problem for me if i stand up to long on street about 2 hours in one place my feet start hurt me , but in 1 hour sit down im good again, even idiots like this user More whish i get cripled im actuall doing fine , i remove fixator before always an year and for now im more than satisfied
https://streamable.com/ttlmfy
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Looking good! Well I guess I would probably do it either way, been carefully considering for a while. Meck after the procedure, would u say u are satisfied, regret, or maybe wish u just did 1 portion or never do it at all?
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I wass really to short before 163 and is not good for me at all, I start get fat to 86kg, now im 180cm and 72kg when i remove fixators i have 64kg, now im fit and is the best choose in my life, of i must do again the same to be like this I will do any time without hesitate, i only regret why im not wallk when i do titbia surgery, and u get litle ballerina, but i solve that with achile tendon surgery, my advice for all next who do this surgery is wallk every day with fixators, just wallk
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Bozhe moi, great recovery Meck! My suggestion to you is dont rush to run yet, take it easy. I myself only run after I take out nail.. But its your choice, u are very motivated
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This is not a normal walk .You are wadding in starting. This walk is called wadding walk
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This is not a normal walk .You are wadding in starting. This walk is called wadding walk
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R4dI4nrsVd8
Source: Video from JAMA network, "a monthly open access medical journal published by the American Medical Association"
Mecks hips are stable when he walks unlike waddling gait where hip is unstable.
Are you an LL veteran? No. Are you a Doctor? Clearly, no.
Then why are you still barking, more?
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Posting car picture with disability doesn't mean enjoying life ,
These pictures are completely misguidance to potential LLrs.
You don't know what you are talking about. You don't even deserve a reply.
Here video from yesterday i wass on pool and i wallk normally i can litle run also, i have simple slippers on legs because is flor wet, my bones is not yet connected i need few more months and bones from titia will be connect tibula and titbia to , femur bones is good almost connect 100%
when tibia bones connect i will run , for now i can wallk long distance without problem , only problem for me if i stand up to long on street about 2 hours in one place my feet start hurt me , but in 1 hour sit down im good again, even idiots like this user More whish i get cripled im actuall doing fine , i remove fixator before always an year and for now im more than satisfied
https://streamable.com/ttlmfy
Nice imrpovement, you have lenghten so much and in a so little time that you can't pretend more than this, now. In next couple of years you'll get always better.
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I wass really to short before 163 and is not good for me at all, I start get fat to 86kg, now im 180cm and 72kg when i remove fixators i have 64kg, now im fit and is the best choose in my life, of i must do again the same to be like this I will do any time without hesitate, i only regret why im not wallk when i do titbia surgery, and u get litle ballerina, but i solve that with achile tendon surgery, my advice for all next who do this surgery is wallk every day with fixators, just wallk
Meck, I have not yet read your diary, but based on this page (your notes and your walking video) I have respect for you. You have done something amazing very few can do and you have made life better for yourself and hopefully others around you.
I hope your recovery goes well and we all see you even better and happier.
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This forum is full of idiots. A liar making fool everyone
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Okay my final comment on Meck diary.
You done a good job .I am happy you recovered 100% . And you dont have any knee bending problem. soon you will run and will play sport too. You are a motivation for future LLrs . Best of luck for your future
cheers
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Imagine how bad and evil you must be like this user more, to see everything negative , he have problem maybe he is short and he not do yet LL or dont have money or is fear , but is he can give advice to everyone just on read others people diary and spam everyone , he hate his life probably and try get that energy to others , i feel sory for you
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Imagine how bad and evil you must be like this user more, to see everything negative , he have problem maybe he is short and he not do yet LL or dont have money or is fear , but is he can give advice to everyone just on read others people diary and spam everyone , he hate his life probably and try get that energy to others , i feel sory for you
Thanks
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Hi Meck,
Looking great on your video, for all those cm you did in such a short time I believe its totally understandable that your are not yet 100% recovered but surely time will help.
Thanks for coming back and sharing your results with us.
Wish the best for you and please keep us updated once in a while.
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Thanks
Meck. Can you please give us an update? You are the only one who has lengthened 17cm. So I am so curious about your progression.
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Meck, 3 questions:
1) How often did you clean the external pinsites?
2) Did you have many infections at your external pinsites?
3) If you did not have done the femur surgery would it then have been more easier for you to manage your tibia surgery with no nails inside but only external fixators?
Good luck. Thanks.
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Stay strong Meck, I can tell youre a good guy
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Hello everyone , can sameone advice me when i remove nails, last lon i remove 14 Aprill 2020, I think to visit Istanbul to remove them , but dont know how long need to wait
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Hello everyone , can sameone advice me when i remove nails, last lon i remove 14 Aprill 2020, I think to visit Istanbul to remove them , but dont know how long need to wait
borther from Bosnia has been almost two years apart from cars pictures and sittings picture can you post running and full range of motion of knee post? To motivate future LLS . Thanks
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I hope here have sameone else than bot user more ,because of that profile all gone from this forum and he not get banned yet ,i post above walking video and all and i dont care for bot user like you to prove something, i give enough to show my face here ,because crap like you say im not real or similar ,anyone have experience when i need remove my nails ,i start feel on left leg one tiny screw wannt came out and only skin keep him ,is bad felling when you can touch screw ,14 april 2020 I removed fixators from tibia ,I hope time is now
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Meck. Can you please give us an update? You are the only one who has lengthened 17cm. So I am so curious about your progression.
Look at another fool . Meck himself saying he did 16 cm and this guy saying 17 cm . This forum full of stupid
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Merhaba, It is impressive you did 17 cm. I pray for your speedy recovery!
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Can you update your walking and x-rays? If you can walk normally it is very fine. Hope you will be able to get your pre surgery conditions in 1-2 years
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Look at another fool . Meck himself saying he did 16 cm and this guy saying 17 cm . This forum full of stupid
You’re a parasite dude. Gah damn you must think you’re doing God’s work. Nothing you say will aid anyone from making any decision they have made. I read the diary and you were absolutely intolerable, personally I would have absolutely ignored you but I can see how dude got heated reading your responses.
You need to get slapped cos you talk too fkn much. Imagine being so intoxicated by another mans decision, one of which you have absolutely zero relations to.
You’re definitely a troll. The worst I have ever seen on any diary in my life. You actually deserve an award. You dusty phuck.
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You’re a parasite dude. Gah damn you must think you’re doing God’s work. Nothing you say will aid anyone from making any decision they have made. I read the diary and you were absolutely intolerable, personally I would have absolutely ignored you but I can see how dude got heated reading your responses.
You need to get slapped cos you talk too fkn much. Imagine being so intoxicated by another mans decision, one of which you have absolutely zero relations to.
You’re definitely a troll. The worst I have ever seen on any diary in my life. You actually deserve an award. You dusty phuck.
GET EM BRO!!! lol
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Hello everyone , today i made xray , maybe is time to remove nails ?
last tibia external i remove in April 2020
(https://i.ibb.co/93LntYJ/20210816-152248.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XkgX8J9)
(https://i.ibb.co/cFngnMd/20210816-152354.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yyjfjGJ)
(https://i.ibb.co/y8wBvHc/20210816-152311.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SKh7YF4)
(https://i.ibb.co/znZZLdZ/20210816-152332.jpg) (https://ibb.co/j6DDxtD)
upload photo url (https://imgbb.com/)
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Hey meck, would you mind uploading a walking video?
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Here none advise nothing I upload wallling video above, read diary and will find, in need info when to remove nails ask 3 time
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Here none advise nothing I upload wallling video above, read diary and will find, in need info when to remove nails ask 3 time
Most people remove mail after 1-2 years, don’t wait to long or the removal will be harder
It’s been over 1 year so yes you can remove
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Thx so much i will travel in Istanbul to remove nails , i hope will be fine all
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Hey meck, would you mind uploading a walking video?
Instead of walking video better knee flexion video would be great, because anyone can walk but knee flexion is hard after LON ON FEMUR.
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Instead of walking video better knee flexion video would be great, because anyone can walk but knee flexion is hard after LON ON FEMUR.
To be fair to Meck he did undergo quadrilateral LL so I don't believe it would be anywhere near to previously, he hasn't even removed the internal nails yet. But with that aside I do agree that this forum does not have any from what I can find legitimate before and after knee ROM comparisons. This shouldn't be overlooked when considering LON Femur as one of the main reasons surgeon do not recommend this is precisely due to the pins entering through the IT band which often can lead to knee contracture.
***I have not done LON/Femur but was/am considering
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Instead of walking video better knee flexion video would be great, because anyone can walk but knee flexion is hard after LON ON FEMUR.
How you gonna tell me what I want to see? I can think for myself thanks. I asked for a walking vid because that’s what I want to see. Don’t be quoting me telling me what I should want. Da faq.. 🙄😒
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How you gonna tell me what I want to see? I can think for myself thanks. I asked for a walking vid because that’s what I want to see. Don’t be quoting me telling me what I should want. Da faq.. 🙄😒
You are blind. You don't need to see anything. I rest my case
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Mate you are one tough soldier - good work!
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Mate you are a legend!
You are actually my hero right now!
What a journey!
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Instead of walking video better knee flexion video would be great, because anyone can walk but knee flexion is hard after LON ON FEMUR.
r u falling in love with Meck hahah cuz u seemingly keeps haunting in this post per sec like an elf but he needs no assistant and consultor or something so that's of no necessarities of u to solve audience's questions and also Meck is not dumb he can inform us of anything himself.
I've had enough of your curses all along the whole post if I were Meck I really think u r a pathetic psychopath out of an asylum just after short talk with a psychiatrist and haven't settled yourself ;D.
Would u kindly spend time on other things such as pet caring to divert your despair?
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Hello everyone , today i made xray , maybe is time to remove nails ?
last tibia external i remove in April 2020
(https://i.ibb.co/93LntYJ/20210816-152248.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XkgX8J9)
(https://i.ibb.co/cFngnMd/20210816-152354.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yyjfjGJ)
(https://i.ibb.co/y8wBvHc/20210816-152311.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SKh7YF4)
(https://i.ibb.co/znZZLdZ/20210816-152332.jpg) (https://ibb.co/j6DDxtD)
upload photo url (https://imgbb.com/)
It's been 1 yr after your surgery so it's time u could do removal.Anyway how could u get a pass in the airport examinations cuz I heard if u got metals there r some possibilities to be prohibited from access to planes.
In my country there are such sayings so I dunno how it is like in your country.
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r u falling in love with Meck hahah cuz u seemingly keeps haunting in this post per sec like an elf but he needs no assistant and consultor or something so that's of no necessarities of u to solve audience's questions and also Meck is not dumb he can inform us of anything himself.
I've had enough of your curses all along the whole post if I were Meck I really think u r a pathetic psychopath out of an asylum just after short talk with a psychiatrist and haven't settled yourself ;D.
Would u kindly spend time on other things such as pet caring to divert your despair?
I concur with your assessment.
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You guys are really living in a parallel world. You really don't know anything about this surgery.
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You guys are really living in a parallel world. You really don't know anything about this surgery.
Are a orthopedist or LL veteran?Otherwise I don't know why u got balls to say this bs ignorant of a LLer in process.
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Damn @Meck that's an insane amount of length! You look great though, and looks like it all turned out well!
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Although I think some may genuinely have concern for Meck simply because their body cannot handle what Meck can and they assume Mecks body would not be able to handle as much.
People on this forum are greedy fu*ckers, they got X-ray photos, photos of Meck and even his facebook profile. Now, Meck pretty much went in and got everything done really fast, although personally I would rather take my time if I were doing the lengths he did, there are many who would have gotten jealous. He is fine now, and people don’t believe that here, they want more videos so they can expose him like they have with others in the past. I am on the forums 1) To kill time during covid19 and 2) Get as much information as I can on the doctors before I go forward with my procedure.
After seeing how Meck and Overdozer were practically walked all over, I have no desire to post any kind of diary.
People are forgetting that in the early 2000s larger lengthening cases were much more common than they are now.
I remember there was this guy about a year ago who joined the forums, he was a patient of a doctor from Ukraine I forget his name. Anyway, this guy had done lengthening years before he actually joined the forums and he was fully recovered. He started posting his experience and hear this, he provided the forum with 6 or more videos of him at the gym including a full 15 minute jogging video and without any edits. What happens next? The haters who just linger around these forums like parasites come out of their holes and accuse this guy of promoting his doctor and deceiving everyone. Needless to say he quit and deleted all his videos and photos while at it. So I left the forums at the time too and I know 2 others who have successfully lengthened this without making a diary or even looking through anything on these forums.
There are groups all over the world created by many for information on LL, this forum while it is the only forum, it’s not the only source of information.
Are u referring to that patient in Kiev?I don't others are staining him as a hooker or he's a genuine information supporter but he did 21cm lengtheing altogether and that was incredibly insane.Even at that moment I distrusted his posting purity but after your clarification,I'm really skeptical about this forum's quality now and the same as u blaming moderators being bystanders to trollers and hookers,who really screwed up the community disciplines.
But As mentioned above,Meck really done an epic job in the human history to lengthen 18cm and that's impossible mission for almost all LLers.
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Well ı wont say success unless i see a normal walking video
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Are u referring to that patient in Kiev?I don't others are staining him as a working girl or he's a genuine information supporter but he did 21cm lengtheing altogether and that was incredibly insane.Even at that moment I distrusted his posting purity but after your clarification,I'm really skeptical about this forum's quality now and the same as u blaming moderators being bystanders to trollers and working girls,who really screwed up the community disciplines.
But As mentioned above,Meck really done an epic job in the human history to lengthen 18cm and that's impossible mission for almost all LLers.
You are wrong Meck did 19 cm
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Well ı wont say success unless i see a normal walking video
Not only walking but also knee flexion and extension sitting down on floor and standing up from floor. that day i will say surgery is successful
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Not only walking but also knee flexion and extension sitting down on floor and standing up from floor. that day i will say surgery is successful
That's quite a low criteria to call it successful, especially coming from you. I could show you all that as someone who had that same surgery a year ago.
But my criteria to call it successful is sprinting and wall jumps without warm ups.
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That's quite a low criteria to call it successful, especially coming from you. I could show you all that as someone who had that same surgery a year ago.
But my criteria to call it successful is sprinting and wall jumps without warm ups.
You are right . we should adds on these too
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Now the rationale:
In general the upper-body to lower-body ratio is 1:1 after preadolescence https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1948024-technique#:~:text=The%20U%2FL%20ratio%20(upper,body%20segment%20being%20about%20equal. (https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1948024-technique#:~:text=The%20U%2FL%20ratio%20(upper,body%20segment%20being%20about%20equal.)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK243/#:~:text=The%20%22lower%20segment%22%20is%20the,and%20remain%20so%20in%20adults. (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK243/#:~:text=The%20%22lower%20segment%22%20is%20the,and%20remain%20so%20in%20adults.)
Meek's legs are ¹⁶⁴⁄₂ = 82 cm tall while a 6'4"/193 cm person's legs are ¹⁹³⁄₂ = 96.5 cm. Since he lengthened 16 cm he added 82+16=98 cm but since it doesn't directly correspond to height growth it's closer to more or less ≈ 96 cm.
Meek's basically has become the slender man with potential joint problems:
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/venturiantale/images/7/70/Slenderman.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/340?cb=20170424063154)
These measurements do not have true normal or abnormal values, but must be interpreted in the context of an individual's age, sex, clinical status, and previous measurements. The values can be plotted as a percentile of a reference population or as a percentage of an "ideal" value.
Really puzzled why u ignored this statement and hurried to assume Meck's trunk length is equal to leg lengths.His armspan is way longer than his height,too.Apparently u didn't realize that and just spit out s as you want.
Five letters 'IDEAL' can manifest how big problems are with your reading comprehensions.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30756289/ (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30756289/)
Results: The mean US:LS ratio in boys at birth was 1.45; at one year of age it was 1.35 that decreased to 0.89 at 14 y. The nadir for the US:LS ratio in boys was reached at 14 y of age (0.89). In girls, the mean US:LS ratio at birth was 1.44, at one year of age it was 1.35 that decreased to 0.89 at 12 y. The nadir for the US:LS ratio in girls was reached at 12 y of age (0.89). From 12 to 18 y the US:LS ratio was fairly constant (for girls: 0.89, for boys: 0.9). On plotting the US and LS against the age in present study population, the US and LS curves crossed each other (US:LS = 1) at 7 to 8 y in boys and at 6 to 7 y in girls.
Take this sword u poliomyelitis cunt.
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I can't believe how mean some people are being to Meck. It is just so unnecessary and cruel... I don't think I will post any of my journey on this forum.
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I can't believe how mean some people are being to Meck. It is just so unnecessary and cruel... I don't think I will post any of my journey on this forum.
Don't discard your hope for ppl here to be polite to your diary cuz most of them are not mean.
Several idiots are haunting like ghosts everywhere.
But anyway,Meck's length amount is massive and his condition can't adapt to everyone
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Has meck done the most amount of limb lengthening in the history of the forum?
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I can't believe how mean some people are being to Meck. It is just so unnecessary and cruel... I don't think I will post any of my journey on this forum.
It's mainly just the 1 guy over and over again in every one's journal being a ckroach. But no one likes that guy anyways so he don't matter. He hasn't had lengthening ever so his opinion doesn't matter. He's the person outside of the boxing ring giving advice but has never been in a fight himself..lol
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Has meck done the most amount of limb lengthening in the history of the forum?
I heard from others that one guy under Baldu's hands had done 21cm lengthening and was still known whether able to walk or not.
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It's mainly just the 1 guy over and over again in every one's journal being a ckroach. But no one likes that guy anyways so he don't matter. He hasn't had lengthening ever so his opinion doesn't matter. He's the person outside of the boxing ring giving advice but has never been in a fight himself..lol
I have seen ZUCC and more two idiots for several times and they behaved the same as they did in this
post,having accused patients of being how stupid having making up mind to do LL and pretended they
are most expertise at LL in the forum.I wonder why mods haven't got 'em and let 'em enjoy
prohibitions into this forum.
This forum is at present riddled with idiots and trollers.
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I have seen ZUCC and more two idiots for several times and they behaved the same as they did in this
post,having accused patients of being how stupid having making up mind to do LL and pretended they
are most expertise at LL in the forum.I wonder why mods haven't got 'em and let 'em enjoy
prohibitions into this forum.
This forum is at present riddled with idiots and trollers.
Yeah I don't understand why the moderators allow it either. Pretty frustrating that they do nothing a let it go on. That more guy is the main culprit. He even accused me of working with Dr. Buldu after canceling my surgery..lmao.. I don't know where he's from but that's pretty bad marketing if a patient has backed out. But that in the thought level we are dealing with here when it comes to that guy. No way in hell he has friends in real life, if this is how he acts online. I'd be shocked.
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Hey Meck I see u keeping online for something.
How is your removing going?
And laugh off that powdered heavily banshee more.He is here for just
curses on you and condescending his 'intelligence' upon us patients.
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Yeah I don't understand why the moderators allow it either. Pretty frustrating that they do nothing a let it go on. That more guy is the main culprit. He even accused me of working with Dr. Buldu after canceling my surgery..lmao.. I don't know where he's from but that's pretty bad marketing if a patient has backed out. But that in the thought level we are dealing with here when it comes to that guy. No way in hell he has friends in real life, if this is how he acts online. I'd be shocked.
Mods and admins are rarely online and that's the reason why stloads of
trollers and lunatics are here.If I were a mod,I'll let more feel my rough
and anger.It's appreciable to see patients writing off their diaries since
they won't be beneficial for either themselves or some medical
companies(they are not propagandas).
I really feel disgusted of these chucks cuz they are devastating writers'
enthusiasms
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Hi everyone in 13 September, monday i remove nails from my legs i will made pic and videos , hope will be all ok, this forum everyone inform more if users like ( more ) get banned ,they never do lenthening but they write bad on every topic ,and force to sameone prove samething to him , only leech
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Hi everyone in 13 September, monday i remove nails from my legs i will made pic and videos , hope will be all ok, this forum everyone inform more if users like ( more ) get banned ,they never do lenthening but they write bad on every topic ,and force to sameone prove samething to him , only leech
He is definitely gonna harass you for one more time as you update LOL.
But we are all fixing our eyes on your updates and I hope the best for
your removal!
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Congradulations on your removal day beforehand 8) I have browsed your fb,instagram and your selfies,making completely sure that you have recovered from the surgeries very well.And say fk to those Scepticisms in the post.
Either they are perceiving you as a fabricated story or demanding your other videos.
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Hello everyone, in tuesday i remove nails from my legs, right now is litle better , but still cant wallk because my knees is to much swollen and is pain like hell if i try , im glad is finish this madness, and hope soon will wallk again, is sad only i dont have any support or visit by doctor or even explain, but for him is money i guess most important, busy man try to do 2 3 operations per day
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Congrats of the removal. Who did the removal surgery?
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Hello Meck,
Hope your recovery is doing well, your process for achieving the 17 cm has been long and difficult. I am happy for you having achieved your goals, and hope you can now rest and recover fully.
Your testimony as well has been priceless for those of us looking for double lengthening ( femur + tibia). I am very thankful for your photos and videos, and will be very grateful if you keep us informed about your weekly advances and recovery.
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Thanks for the images and feedback. The right knee looks extremely swollen. Is your ROM affected after the nail removal?
I was surprised when my ROM was reduced after the nail-locking surgery, so I wonder how it is after the nail-removing surgery.
The recovery requires way more effort than the easy exercises during lengthening while lying in bed. Keep grinding the workout (stretching and weight bearing) and don't break your legs like the other guy who removed his nails. Good luck.
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please update meck
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Thanks for the images and feedback. The right knee looks extremely swollen. Is your ROM affected after the nail removal?
I was surprised when my ROM was reduced after the nail-locking surgery, so I wonder how it is after the nail-removing surgery.
The recovery requires way more effort than the easy exercises during lengthening while lying in bed. Keep grinding the workout (stretching and weight bearing) and don't break your legs like the other guy who removed his nails. Good luck.
Mind explaining about ROM?
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Hey Meck how about your walking recently?
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Is it daacha?
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PROPHET SEDAT WHERE AREE YOUUU🤣
https://youtu.be/Fz9Y72jbsxU
Hello everyone, in tuesday i remove nails from my legs, right now is litle better , but still cant wallk because my knees is to much swollen and is pain like hell if i try , im glad is finish this madness, and hope soon will wallk again, is sad only i dont have any support or visit by doctor or even explain, but for him is money i guess most important, busy man try to do 2 3 operations per day
(https://i.ibb.co/vh8RVpg/20210915-114837.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Vx85JRr)
(https://i.ibb.co/ZxqSCpR/20210915-134132.jpg) (https://ibb.co/w4571FZ)
(https://i.ibb.co/dcgVx6f/20210915-134154.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9vt1S2p)
(https://i.ibb.co/RhmZw7Q/20210915-135245.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hXjhzC2)
(https://i.ibb.co/QbM1GYy/20210916-112214.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2ndfBcG)
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Hey Meck. How you doing these days? We are expecting your updates!
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Posting car picture with disability doesn't mean enjoying life ,
These pictures are completely misguidance to potential LLrs.
He also posted a photo right below the car picture in which he was standing in a gym(or some places for him to get gymmaxxed) so by reasoning of course he did not get disabled and was already living normal life. You always selectively response to what OP posted and presume 'average == individual'(What I wanna say is there can be big difference between the average and an individual), in addition to laughing at others who actually know better than you.
Or let's do a basic logic puzzle: Who would expose his own FB and Instagram to you if he were really making moeny for a team? And spending so much money on buying cars, and this and that ? Don't you think these behaviours are nowhere near as what a 'shill' does? There are shills, indeed, on this forum, but check what they did. Meck coulda just not posted his real life photos and even trait and walking videos(Many shills just write diaries as a side note), not to mention exposing FB Instagram and similar s which can represent his life details which is even more dangerous. Buying cars and other things is also out of line with a shill's behaviour.
It's really irritating to see anyone repelling any patients who would like to share experiences off by being a parasite. If you use this forum to learn informations about LL, then please behave yourself. If you just use this forum to reduce your angsts irl, seek therapies, because we are not obligatory to accept your harassments.
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Now the rationale:
In general the upper-body to lower-body ratio is 1:1 after preadolescence https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1948024-technique#:~:text=The%20U%2FL%20ratio%20(upper,body%20segment%20being%20about%20equal. (https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1948024-technique#:~:text=The%20U%2FL%20ratio%20(upper,body%20segment%20being%20about%20equal.)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK243/#:~:text=The%20%22lower%20segment%22%20is%20the,and%20remain%20so%20in%20adults. (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK243/#:~:text=The%20%22lower%20segment%22%20is%20the,and%20remain%20so%20in%20adults.)
Meek's legs are ¹⁶⁴⁄₂ = 82 cm tall while a 6'4"/193 cm person's legs are ¹⁹³⁄₂ = 96.5 cm. Since he lengthened 16 cm he added 82+16=98 cm but since it doesn't directly correspond to height growth it's closer to more or less ≈ 96 cm.
Meek's basically has become the slender man with potential joint problems:
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/venturiantale/images/7/70/Slenderman.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/340?cb=20170424063154)
Average does not equal to individual. Wtf are your guys' IQs? Someone else also showed you contradictory studies.
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this must be the most entertaining diary in history of LL forums. I literally laughed my ass off
so we have Meck, a 164cm aggressive bosnian drug dealer(complete with the tacky full body tattoos, the imported from america(because its cheaper) mercedes/bmw SUVs barely speaking english with spelling and semantical mistakes only god knows how he managed to accomplish(you can literally laugh your ass off just from reading his posts)
so he went to Buldu(oh boy), and got LON femur, inserted through the knee(LoL) achieving 9.4 cm by turning up to 2mm per day resulting in this massive crookedness:
(https://s8d4.turboimg.net/t1/84439160_received-581839602661000.jpg) (https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/84439160/received-581839602661000.jpg.html)
then he got the exfix removed and his nail locked, only to get an exfix installed on his tibia IN THE SAME SURGERY
(https://s8d4.turboimg.net/t1/84439161_IMG-20200217-222051.jpg) (https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/84439161/IMG-20200217-222051.jpg.html) (https://s8d4.turboimg.net/t1/84439162_Screenshot-20200218-173433-com-whatsapp.jpg) (https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/84439162/Screenshot-20200218-173433-com-whatsapp.jpg.html)
What the hell is this? why is the fixator so crooked all over? let alone the bone? is this some kind of a joke?
so despite the warnings and appeals of a bunch of forum members, Meck decided everyone is jealous because he is "Winning" so he decided to take it up a notch and distract up to 2mm per day on his tibia because "he strong he know his self and how strong he am and he dont listen crap from haters"
not long after we get this gem:
(https://s8d4.turboimg.net/t1/84439163_Screenshot-20200306-183545-com-whatsapp.jpg) (https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/84439163/Screenshot-20200306-183545-com-whatsapp.jpg.html)
GOOD GOD! Is everyone else seeing what im seeing?
More nuggets of gold:
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Forgotten screw in femur by Buldu, because why not, right?!
(https://s8d4.turboimg.net/t1/84439165_Screenshot-20200501-094103-com-whatsapp.jpg) (https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/84439165/Screenshot-20200501-094103-com-whatsapp.jpg.html)
absolutely no clue how he managed to get union on femur and tibia, especially after the shocking zigzag tibia from before the nailing:
(https://s8d4.turboimg.net/t1/84439166_received-796863241123029.jpg) (https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/84439166/received-796863241123029.jpg.html) (https://s8d4.turboimg.net/t1/84439167_received-3190281904383772.jpg) (https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/84439167/received-3190281904383772.jpg.html)
just goes to show you that as long as you get union(somehow), everything is possible. hasaki and the other guy got screwed over by osteomyelitis that's why they are in such a bad shape so long after the surgeries. but meck did it, despite the warnings and turning 2mm per day(even 4mm per day if the calculations of one poster were correct)
Well, we don't know the long term implications of this extreme brutality over his own body but time will tell. At least he is Winning right now
p.s.
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Great pictures! Good points made
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Jesus... I can understand why Meck no longer updates. You can suspect but please respect. Body tatoo == Drug seller.
OK you do you guys. Actually all you wanna say were your worries about his potiential complications afterwards. They can make sense given that he did so much, but most of your words are just personal humiliations. I hope you are not just jealous, like meck said.
Additionally, do you know there is something called 'translator'? I am sure livelifetaller has a translator. It's ridiculous I don't think you guys even went to an orthopedist's and consulted a surgeon. You can hire a translator from an international LL team. That's a common sense
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It seems that Meck was Dr. B.'s first test subject regarding ll. So where is he now? Starting a new drug cartel in Bosnia?
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I see lot of crap comment here about me , jealousy is one serious illness, im not here to update becasue i have new perfect life and why i waste time on same idiots who write only bad, reason im here again only to update people who respect what i did. Im actually success with this fast lenthening, i have my perfect life and all girls with my drug cartel i cover all Europe and report you guys here about my job . Get your life people and stop think only bad about me my legs is perfect and i run, walk, fighht, fk all , I have new cars also and new houses on see and city all with my drug cartel
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What a diary lol.