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Title: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: TallPersonality on November 05, 2019, 08:03:12 AM
Hi,
I decided to start this diary because of boredom  :D . I hope it will help somebody in the future.

Some basic info about me:
From: Europe
Age: about 25
Initial height: 171cm
goal: 7.5cm

I had my surgery on 17 September. I started lengthening on 26 September. Now I should be at about 4cm. I haven't a ballerina yet and my journey is easy so far. I'm working remotely 6h a day without any problems.

I don't know what else I can say. If you have any questions, just ask  :).
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: Meck on November 06, 2019, 12:24:00 AM
Did you feel any pain, i made femur before 9 days and start lengthening before 2 days, when i start lengthening i feel my kneee move and when i wake up  sametime by bones move into possition and is really bad, but only i have issue pain me to much when start lengthening, like deep deep pain first in left leg now on both, i use all painkiller not help against this deep pain, only when I stand up i dont feel that
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: TallPersonality on November 06, 2019, 04:38:18 PM
Meck, the first two weeks after surgery was quite painful for me. The first day after leaving the hospital, I had merely bearable pain on my legs. I said that to my doctor and he changed my painkillers. With new painkillers, I didn't feel almost any pain. Maybe you should talk with doc about new painkillers?
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: Meck on November 07, 2019, 12:35:20 AM
I find my reason for pain, you will not belive i made 4mm per day i didn't udnerstand him and i made every 6 hours 4 time but he say 1 time every 6 hours to be 4 time per day and i grow 4 mm per day, i took xray and i grow 1cm in less 3 days, now he say i must stop lengthening 2 or 3 days and now i have no pain
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: Ghostfish on November 07, 2019, 12:40:57 AM
I find my reason for pain, you will not belive i made 4mm per day i didn't udnerstand him and i made every 6 hours 4 time but he say 1 time every 6 hours to be 4 time per day and i grow 4 mm per day, i took xray and i grow 1cm in less 3 days, now he say i must stop lengthening 2 or 3 days and now i have no pain
Gee.... 4 mm per day!!  That is insane!  I can't believe your doc said that.  As you may know, the standard rate for femur is 1 mm per day.  Even with that speed, you will feel tightness, discomfort, and some pain very soon.  You may go faster at the beginning, but it may make you delay the whole process, if your muscles/tissues/nerves become so tight, or your bone may not grow fast enough.  Anyway, cll is a long journey.  So be patient!
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: Meck on November 07, 2019, 03:04:27 AM
I have lucky made like this only 2 days, my doctor say 1mm, but same misunderstand and now i stop lengthening because 2 days i made hard i will continue after 2 days again normal 1mm per day, this is my reason for pain and knee movement
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: TallPersonality on November 08, 2019, 07:18:59 AM
Meck it's very good sign that you don't have pain after you stopped lengthening for a few days. I hope everything will be fine with you  :)
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: TallPersonality on November 08, 2019, 07:53:38 AM
Here are some x-rays:

3 days after surgery:
https://imgur.com/a/uZ1dqUC

after 10 days of lengthening:
https://imgur.com/a/Ro8SVOL

after 32 days of lengthening:
https://imgur.com/a/9rrCGeU

My right leg is a little shorter than the left on the last xray, but it's normal. I was allowed to lengthen my right leg by 1.25mm per day to align this disproportion after that.
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: dunghuynh2227 on November 09, 2019, 01:38:14 PM
dont do that bro , just stop lengthen longer leg and keep lengthen the shorter leg. i did exactly like you and now i have suffer from that, my leg which i lengthen 1,33mm a day now isnt flexible as the other leg. I practice so much but the achille tendon still not became normal
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: TallPersonality on November 09, 2019, 01:55:14 PM
dunghuynh2227, you're talking to me? I don't worry. Every body is different. However, I met here a lot of people who done more than 6cm and they're okay now, so I think I will be alright too.
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: Meck on November 10, 2019, 07:59:57 PM
Me to i hope reach 9cm in femur for sure, when reach 8, only i can stop lengthening but if all is ok i go on 9
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: dunghuynh2227 on November 13, 2019, 01:14:56 AM
dunghuynh2227, you're talking to me? I don't worry. Every body is different. However, I met here a lot of people who done more than 6cm and they're okay now, so I think I will be alright too.
i mean dont do over 1mm a day. your tendo may not catch up the length and get too tight.
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: TallPersonality on November 14, 2019, 10:33:53 PM
You're right man. I'm lengthening only 1mm per day. I'm at about 5cm now and don't have ballerina yet  ;D
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: tallmf on November 18, 2019, 05:42:04 AM
you will know how much ballerina you have, only when you stand up after frame removal so be mindful about that
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: TallPersonality on November 26, 2019, 09:34:51 PM
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you will know how much ballerina you have, only when you stand up after frame removal so be mindful about that
Of course  ;).

On Monday, 60 days of lengthening, I had another x-ray. In reality, I've lengthened about 5.5cm on both legs, so I need to wait another 20 days to achieve my goal. I think my callus looks very good.

On the other side, I gained about 5-10 kg during lengthening. It's very surprising for me because I was told that patients normally lose their weight during that process. Now my weight is about 75kg and it is too heavy to start walking exercises a few days after frames removal.

There is my x-rays photo:
https://imgur.com/a/Ui076Ig
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: TallPersonality on December 15, 2019, 01:00:57 PM
On 12 December I had another x-ray. On the left leg, I was at about 7.2 cm and 6.8 on the right. Callus looks quite good I think. I will probably have frames removal surgery on 18 December. My journey is still easy so far. I don't have much pain. My left leg is still flexible. The right leg is a little stiff but I don't think I will have a big ballerina. There is a link to my last x-ray:
https://imgur.com/a/DToRBGt
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: dunghuynh2227 on December 17, 2019, 02:29:36 PM
So which is your final length ?
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: TallPersonality on December 17, 2019, 03:18:00 PM
My final gain should be 7.5cm. I will let you know tomorrow.
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: TallPersonality on December 18, 2019, 05:53:38 PM
So I had my surgery today. My final gain is 7.4cm. They told me they can lengthen 1mm on the surgery but I refused. Pain now is quite tolerable. I think I will left the hospital tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: dunghuynh2227 on December 19, 2019, 03:31:40 AM
Congrats . Now is recovery and back to life like a champion
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: Cloudo on December 20, 2019, 11:16:59 AM
Congrats for the frame removal mate  ;)
Today I came back from hospital with TallPersonality. What an interesting guy! Very positive and optimistic too! The best kind of buddy you need on such a journey  8)
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: TallPersonality on December 21, 2019, 08:19:53 AM
Thanks Cloudo and dunghuynh2227!!!

I've talked yesterday with other patients in the guest house and they said my tibias look very natural. I will start standing in about 10 days and will post a photo of my body.

Today, there's no pain. Only little numbness in my feet.
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: Cloudo on December 21, 2019, 09:12:01 AM
Thanks Cloudo and dunghuynh2227!!!

I've talked yesterday with other patients in the guest house and they said my tibias look very natural. I will start standing in about 10 days and will post a photo of my body.

Today, there's no pain. Only little numbness in my feet.
Yup, I swear the most natural looking lengthened tibias I have ever seen!
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: Movie on December 21, 2019, 12:48:25 PM
Congrats on a successful external tibia lengthening TallPersonality
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: TallPersonality on January 03, 2020, 09:00:40 PM
I started walking with a walker 4 days ago. There is a video of me walking from today: https://imgur.com/a/6bVxVLj . You can see that I have very little stiffness in my right foot, but it's a lot smaller than it was a week ago. I think it will completely disappear in another week. I cannot wait when I will be able to walk with crutches  ;D.
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: Cloudo on January 03, 2020, 09:25:23 PM
wow! Congrats man  ;)
Looking forward to see you walking independently without any tools  :)
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: TallPersonality on January 05, 2020, 05:05:06 PM
Thanks mate  :)!
If anybody is curious, I've been taking a lot of supplements since two weeks after the first surgery. Here is a list of them:
Swanson Century Formula Multivitamin without Iron
Swanson D3
Swanson Glucosamine, Chondroitin & MSM
Swanson C
Now Omega-3
Now Magnesium Citrate
Now Bone Strength
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: TallPersonality on January 16, 2020, 06:11:19 PM
On 14 January, I started walking with crutches. I don't feel any pain. Here is a video of me from today:
https://imgur.com/a/ZHw6SUn
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: dunghuynh2227 on January 19, 2020, 03:11:13 PM
Nice , how about your achile tendon
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: TallPersonality on February 01, 2020, 04:56:46 PM
Nice , how about your achile tendon
Thanks. It's getting better every day. Now I have a little stiffness after waking up and need about a minute of standing to fix it.

Yesterday I started walking with one crutch. It's a little painful because I have to walk at least 2 hours per day but I stay positive...in the next week I should be able to walk unaided  ;D.

There are my x-rays from 25th of January: https://imgur.com/a/9upSwan . My right leg already has good callus, but left needs a little more time. I will take x-rays next week and post them here.
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: TallPersonality on February 01, 2020, 05:38:14 PM
By the way I don’t need to use a wheelchair anymore. I move myself using only one crutch  ;D
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: TallPersonality on February 06, 2020, 10:00:36 AM
I started walking without crutches this week. There is a video of me walking from 3 of February. I couldn't walk more than 1 minute:
https://imgur.com/a/m43ntBC

This video is from the 5 of February. I was walking for about 10 minutes:
https://imgur.com/a/u3lSeuS

Today I was able to walk about 20 minutes  ;D. I don't feel much pain. It's just very tiring because of my weak muscles in my legs. I just need to walk as much as possible  :), so tomorrow maybe I will be able to walk 30 minutes  ;D.
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: Shortgunner on February 08, 2020, 03:36:34 AM
Your revovery is good and I hope you start running soon.

Besides, I wanted to ask you when did you start taking supplements like vitamins or calcium? Was it after you started lengthening or after removal of the frame ?
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: TallPersonality on February 08, 2020, 07:09:16 PM
Thanks mate!

I've started taking supplements about 2 weeks after my first surgery.
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: farfan21 on February 09, 2020, 07:23:08 AM
Hi,
What was the reason for choosing dr sarin, I heard some bad reviews about him.. why not choose reputable doctors in the USA? Glad you’re doing well tho
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: TallPersonality on February 19, 2020, 12:21:26 PM
Hi,
What was the reason for choosing dr sarin, I heard some bad reviews about him.. why not choose reputable doctors in the USA? Glad you’re doing well tho
These bad reviews don't have any evidence, so I don't believe them.

I left India a week ago. Everything is okay. I'm walking without crutches, but my gait looks like I'm drunk :D . I think I need one or two weeks more to make my gait look better. I'm very busy now, so I will post a video next week.
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: singhiskingguri on February 19, 2020, 07:31:01 PM
These bad reviews don't have any evidence, so I don't believe them.

I left India a week ago. Everything is okay. I'm walking without crutches, but my gait looks like I'm drunk :D . I think I need one or two weeks more to make my gait look better. I'm very busy now, so I will post a video next week.
if the reviews have no evidence, why so many incomplete diaries from sarin ex-patients in this forum, all I can see is, you are the only one who posted a video amongst all of them straight after removal of apparatus, so it clearly shows that they are using you for advertisement purposes, while rest of the Sarin patients were not on the condition where they will be able to post it on the forum, It is very apparent for any rational human being. Good luck with your journey.
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: TallPersonality on February 20, 2020, 03:12:29 PM
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if the reviews have no evidence, why so many incomplete diaries from sarin ex-patients in this forum
I don't know. Maybe they just don't care about this forum anymore after their height dysphoria is gone. If they were unsatisfied, they would write it in their diaires.
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you are the only one who posted a video amongst all of them straight after removal of apparatus
I'm not the only one who posted videos after lengthening with dr. Sarin.
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so it clearly shows that they are using you for advertisement purposes, while rest of the Sarin patients were not on the condition where they will be able to post it on the forum
They don't use me. Sarin didn't ask me to post any videos or photos on this forum. In the guest house, I saw other patients who are ok, but they don't have diaries on the forum.
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: Pharaoh on February 20, 2020, 08:14:41 PM
These bad reviews don't have any evidence, so I don't believe them.

I left India a week ago. Everything is okay. I'm walking without crutches, but my gait looks like I'm drunk :D . I think I need one or two weeks more to make my gait look better. I'm very busy now, so I will post a video next week.

There are far too many verified butchered cases of Sarin, it be lame if you feel otherwise, just check the forum even ArabicMan wrote he is not happy with Sarin's care
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: Pharaoh on February 20, 2020, 08:17:05 PM
if the reviews have no evidence, why so many incomplete diaries from sarin ex-patients in this forum, all I can see is, you are the only one who posted a video amongst all of them straight after removal of apparatus, so it clearly shows that they are using you for advertisement purposes, while rest of the Sarin patients were not on the condition where they will be able to post it on the forum, It is very apparent for any rational human being. Good luck with your journey.
Now you tell me why are you so harsh just on sarin and soft on Harry and Sharma's patients? Even the team you mentioned me in private message and are literally worshiping and praising the later, so any motives in that mate?
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: Pharaoh on February 20, 2020, 08:18:01 PM
To be clear am not promoting Sarin he is a dumb   butcher
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: genuineIndianguy on February 28, 2020, 04:13:00 AM
These bad reviews don't have any evidence, so I don't believe them.

I left India a week ago. Everything is okay. I'm walking without crutches, but my gait looks like I'm drunk :D . I think I need one or two weeks more to make my gait look better. I'm very busy now, so I will post a video next week.
So you sure, you don't know the butchered Iranian femur patient, got three times nailed, twice done lengthening and had bone grafting? He was staying with you? if you say no. ill prove you and all of your pro sarin slogans are wrong.
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: TallPersonality on March 02, 2020, 03:49:24 PM
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So you sure, you don't know the butchered Iranian femur patient, got three times nailed, twice done lengthening and had bone grafting? He was staying with you? if you say no. ill prove you and all of your pro sarin slogans are wrong.
I've heard that he had some problems, but I don't know what is his current state. I haven't talk with him after he left the guest house.

There is video of me walking from yesterday: https://imgur.com/g6yM1Ia . I think my gait is quite good now.
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: Shortgunner on March 02, 2020, 04:09:14 PM
Can you post your latest xray ? And how many days did it take for you to reach 7.4 cm ?
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: TallPersonality on March 02, 2020, 04:48:32 PM
Shortgunner, I had been in frames for 92 days. This is my last x-ray from the end of January: https://imgur.com/a/9upSwan . I will take another x-ray in two weeks and post here.
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: genuineIndianguy on March 03, 2020, 02:45:03 AM
I've heard that he had some problems, but I don't know what is his current state. I haven't talk with him after he left the guest house.

There is video of me walking from yesterday: https://imgur.com/g6yM1Ia . I think my gait is quite good now.
why didn't you state that in your previous posts? why were you claiming falsely my claims are baseless? 
Title: Re: External Tibias with Dr. Sarin
Post by: TallPersonality on May 24, 2020, 12:50:43 PM
Hi! Sorry that I haven't updated my diary for a long time. I'm focusing on my carrier now and don't have much time. My recovery is going well. I'm walking normally now. I still have a little problem going downstairs, but it's because of not good enough flexibility in my left foot. It's normal and should go in a few weeks as I'm working on it. A few days ago I visited a doctor in my country and did new x-rays. He had patients who did LL, but not for cosmetic reasons. He told me that my legs look very good and that dr Sarin did a very good job. Here are my latest x-rays: https://imgur.com/a/t0PBgv7