Limb Lengthening Forum
Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Patients Experiences => Topic started by: Shortgunner on January 29, 2020, 08:34:57 PM
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Hello everyone!
About me!
-Height:164 cms or 5"5 inchs
- short tibia length
- huge calf muscles
Aimed height- 171 or 172 cms / 5"7.5 or 5"8 inches.
Frankly I am very reluctant to post stuff related to my private matters of concern on any platform however I do realize the trauma and depression that "short people" suffer from on daily basis, I went through the same and hence decided to go ahead with this massive sergery.
Its only been 18 hours since my sergery and i have no pain and the sergery went smooth. I researched and met the patients that dr sarin has treated and most of them are well off and they seem to be living absolutely normal after a year.
If you have any questions please dont hesitate to ask !
P.S i am still in the hospital, gonna be shifted to the guesthouse in the next 3 or 4 days
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we totally believe you man....
You created your account today, right after your "surgery", and promoting how Sarin a.k.a "The butcher" is amazing...
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Hey man, i am being honest just to share my experience about LL sergery, its been 24 hours i can move my ankle and feet wothout much restrain. I DONT KNOW WHY YOU ACCUSE A DR OF SOMETHING BAD , FOR ME I DID A PERFECT SERGERY.You dont have to be skeptical and sarcastic about it though.
I WILL POST ALL MY HISTORY OF REPORTS
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Here I go with pics!
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Hey man, i am being honest just to share my experience about LL sergery, its been 24 hours i can move my ankle and feet wothout much restrain. I DONT KNOW WHY YOU ACCUSE A DR OF SOMETHING BAD , FOR ME I DID A PERFECT SERGERY.You dont have to be skeptical and sarcastic about it though.
I WILL POST ALL MY HISTORY OF REPORTS
Also include future, with your recovery to normal life.
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I am still in the hospital, i will keep it updated at every major step towards my recovery. I have struggled to post pictures maybe because i am using my phone currently.
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Here I go with pics!
Where you go with pics? To Bali?
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Here is the link.
Day 1 after sergery!
https://ibb.co/d4sF0rw
https://ibb.co/TW5w6G2
https://ibb.co/42L65rX
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Here is the link.
Day 1 after sergery!
https://ibb.co/d4sF0rw
https://ibb.co/TW5w6G2
https://ibb.co/42L65rX
Good luck and see you in guest house soon
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Thanks mate, see you at the guest house!
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How much did you pay?
Wish you a smooth journey.
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I paid around 12000USD which are equal to 850000 in inr.
I am at the hospital currently its been almost 48 hours, i feel good, just waiting to get back to the guesthouse and start lengthening.
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Hi,All the best for your lengthening.
Since i started reading this forum i have read so many caos about Dr sarin and his patients. In other words not even a single patient has recovered in medical terms or for a layman if i would say not even single ll'er is walking on his feet like a normal. Either they are stuck with the calcification or they have to go one more one more and one more surgery to keep their feet on the ground. Earlier i read diaries mentioned amount 17500USD for Dr sarin and you mentioned 12000USD. Do we should guess the business is going down because of the negative remarks:-so he started new strategy to maintain his business( which anyway worked for him). And you my brother seems like stuck in his net. Because this surgery is mean to improvise cosmetically and not to forget ambulation considered to be the major part of the life, he is offering none. As i a reader not at all impress with the lifestyle Dr sarin gave to his patient.
Still i wish you all the best. Takecare of yourself
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Hi NEET here is the thing, for indians the cost of the sergery is different than others such as foreigners. There are additional charges on foreign patients.
For your doubts regarding how good dr sarin is, let me tell you something. I was like you reading stuff online and believing whatever people used to post about the dr. However when i went to the guesthouse, i met people who have had tibia lengething before and were returning for femur lengthening. I interacted with all the patients face to face and all of them were full of praise for Dr sarin. I met around 8 patients who have done this sergery and were completely living a normal life afterwards. So thats the time i realized that people who post negative stuff about the dr have an agenda driving for some reasons. I suggest you visit the guest house and interact with real patients and ask them for feedback.
As for me i can say my sergery went very smooth. Today is DAY 3 and i have been removed from the epidural catheter. I can feel my toes, ankle and feets. No fever no vomiting no pain so i would only speak positive about dr sarin. He is very good and experienced.
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DAY 4- EPIDURAL HAS BEEN REMOVED. GETTING NEW DRESSING ON LEGS.
Discharge tomorrow.
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https://m.imgur.com/a/KkSjEBK
Dressings been removed. Slight pain in knees while folding legs for the first time in about 5 days. Feeling very positive so far !
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https://m.imgur.com/a/KkSjEBK
Dressings been removed. Slight pain in knees while folding legs for the first time in about 5 days. Feeling very positive so far !
Do you start lengthening ?
r u sure you will gaining 4 inch ?
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My target is 7.5 cm (3 inches). I have met people in the guest house who have had 7.5 cms done on tibia.
After 4 days i will start lengthening.
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Day 8- today i did my first lengthening (1 mm) , afterwards Physio was painful however was done skill fully by Mr shariq who had complete care and control while stretching the calf(back) leg muscles.
Feeling really optimistic. So far no pain and i can move my legs almost everywhere. I move around in my room all the day using the chair support.
P.s a very pleasant first day!
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Day 9 with lengthening, slight pain but overall going good.
https://ibb.co/RccwnCd
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I feel this diary is real.
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Day 26- I guess I have lengethened around 2 cm on both legs. Would be going for another xray next week to check my progress. So far lengthening is going alright except for my right feet. I have had some excruciating pain in my right feet for 3, 4 days that restricted me from sleeping since 2 days. Its been a nightmare however the doctor has prescribed some medicines which are related to nerve pain relief. Since I started taking the medicine the pain has gone away by 70% but i still feel pain in my feet once a while.
Besides this, i have been told to reduce lengthening 1mm on right leg to 0.5mm.
Has anyone encountered similar type of pain in the feet where three fingers of the feet are paining and somewhat numb ?
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Day 26- I guess I have lengethened around 2 cm on both legs. Would be going for another xray next week to check my progress. So far lengthening is going alright except for my right feet. I have had some excruciating pain in my right feet for 3, 4 days that restricted me from sleeping since 2 days. Its been a nightmare however the doctor has prescribed some medicines which are related to nerve pain relief. Since I started taking the medicine the pain has gone away by 70% but i still feel pain in my feet once a while.
Besides this, i have been told to reduce lengthening 1mm on right leg to 0.5mm.
Has anyone encountered similar type of pain in the feet where three fingers of the feet are paining and somewhat numb ?
Your fibula got butchered mate. look at your Xrays , probably by some inexperienced hands. so it is possible you have had some nerve damage from the surgery while inserting the pins or cutting your fibula, toe pain comes from nerve damage. please be very cautious during lengthening. Your function is very important than your height. Good luck.
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In my case, I dont think the fibula has anything to do with nerve pain. I have had nerve pain in right feet whereas the fibula which is broken in not so regular manner is in the left leg. My left feet doesn't have any nerve pain whatsoever.
I am at 2.5 cm currently. The only problem i have faced so far is the nerve pain, which has reduced significantly over the past week with the help of medication and reduced lengthening in the right leg.
Besides, I feel better now and have started lengthening usual 1mm a day in both legs.
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Day 9 with lengthening, slight pain but overall going good.
https://ibb.co/RccwnCd
butchered fibula, a nice example . please view this Xray folks then decide if you ever want to do the surgery with the surgeon
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it may or may not end up in nonunion depending on your luck.
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Are you a doctor ? And why are you so negative about everything ?
Are you telling me i will have non union? I am 24 years of age and very healthy. I will consider myself the most unluckiest person if i ever have some complications as bad as non union.
I am updating my story every month, be patient if there is anything i will post the truth here. So far my experience has been very good with Dr sarin, he is an expert in LON external so please stop this propaganda against the doctor. When i finish my journey i will post my results from the surgery. I will be transparent i assure you that. Until then fk off.
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butchered fibula, a nice example . please view this Xray folks then decide if you ever want to do the surgery with the surgeon
😂 even Paley has done cuts like that before. He will be fine!
Its not a straight cut but the bone doesnt always crack straight.
I can tell you guys are new to this and have not seen many xrays.
Dr Kulesh even had my tibia cut at an angle like this to create even more surface area for new bone to grow and i ended up fine. Bone grew in perfect 😁
You guys need to stop acting like yall are doctors man 😂
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Day 26- I guess I have lengethened around 2 cm on both legs. Would be going for another xray next week to check my progress. So far lengthening is going alright except for my right feet. I have had some excruciating pain in my right feet for 3, 4 days that restricted me from sleeping since 2 days. Its been a nightmare however the doctor has prescribed some medicines which are related to nerve pain relief. Since I started taking the medicine the pain has gone away by 70% but i still feel pain in my feet once a while.
Besides this, i have been told to reduce lengthening 1mm on right leg to 0.5mm.
Has anyone encountered similar type of pain in the feet where three fingers of the feet are paining and somewhat numb ?
I had same pains on my feets and i was very worried and scared about nerve damage bit its very normal. The important think is that u feel your feet and u can move. The feeling might be weak and this is normal also. I was feeling weak but after 2-3 week u will feel much better! Stay strong bro! 💪
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My nerve pain has faded away in the past couple of days and I have started regular 1 mm lengthening on both legs. Besides, I want to ask whether lengthening 7 cm is too much for tibia ? I have seen people gone over 7.5 cm here in the dr sarin's guest house and they have recovered completely, even some of them have returned for another segment of lengthening on the femur.
My muscles and tendon are quite flexible even now (almost around 3 cm mark).
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My nerve pain has faded away in the past couple of days and I have started regular 1 mm lengthening on both legs. Besides, I want to ask whether lengthening 7 cm is too much for tibia ? I have seen people gone over 7.5 cm here in the dr sarin's guest house and they have recovered completely, even some of them have returned for another segment of lengthening on the femur.
My muscles and tendon are quite flexible even now (almost around 3 cm mark).
Another liar lol another fake diary maintained by PT shariq . man you only saw tall personality. so tell me the forum name of others or who came to do femurs. Stop these bull s.
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You can come and visit me in the guest house you clown. You can fk off and not comment on my story. There are currently 6 guys in the guest house including cloudo and before I underwent this surgery ,i met tallpersonality and many other patient's in the guest house. So you can really fk off before you get on my nerves.
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Here is a picture of my frames i just took today. So all those negative people please dont fking bother to comment here.
https://ibb.co/VBXbQP9
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You can come and visit me in the guest house you clown. You can fk off and not comment on my story. There are currently 6 guys in the guest house including cloudo and before I underwent this surgery ,i met tallpersonality and many other patient's in the guest house. So you can really fk off before you get on my nerves.
look at you lol funny cunt .stop promoting butcher. well, you will not after your frame removal .
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As i said before, everything is good so far, i cant predict the future. I will keep updating this post
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Day 51- hello everyone!
Today, I have nearly crossed the 4 cm mark which is very encouraging for me as I am closing in on my target of 7cm. And my legs look slimmer and taller which is pleasant to the eyes. In about another 30 days I should be off this frame. I have my next xray scheduled on 31st march. AT 4CM, I feel better now than before which is quite unusual thing as most of the patients start to feel intense pain at this point. However in my case I feel more relaxed, I eat well and sleep good at night without any medicines. Besides the nerve pain in my right feet sort of completely went off. Hoping I get through march in same condition as i am right now.
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Day 51- hello everyone!
Today, I have nearly crossed the 4 cm mark which is very encouraging for me as I am closing in on my target of 7cm. And my legs look slimmer and taller which is pleasant to the eyes. In about another 30 days I should be off this frame. I have my next xray scheduled on 31st march. AT 4CM, I feel better now than before which is quite unusual thing as most of the patients start to feel intense pain at this point. However in my case I feel more relaxed, I eat well and sleep good at night without any medicines. Besides the nerve pain in my right feet sort of completely went off. Hoping I get through march in same condition as i am right now.
if your body and doctor permit try 7.5 cm
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Day 51- hello everyone!
Today, I have nearly crossed the 4 cm mark which is very encouraging for me as I am closing in on my target of 7cm. And my legs look slimmer and taller which is pleasant to the eyes. In about another 30 days I should be off this frame. I have my next xray scheduled on 31st march. AT 4CM, I feel better now than before which is quite unusual thing as most of the patients start to feel intense pain at this point. However in my case I feel more relaxed, I eat well and sleep good at night without any medicines. Besides the nerve pain in my right feet sort of completely went off. Hoping I get through march in same condition as i am right now.
Hows your mobility/walking right now? Do you plan on getting rid of external as soon as you finished lengthening or are you going to wait for a bit of callus formation first?
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if your body and doctor permit try 7.5 cm
It depends on the flexibility of muscles. If my feet are flexible i'd go for 7.5 cm
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Hows your mobility/walking right now? Do you plan on getting rid of external as soon as you finished lengthening or are you going to wait for a bit of callus formation first?
Nope, i will only start walking after the external frame is removed and the nail inside the bone is locked.
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Brother I'm considering this surgery in may
I want to ask that
1. How you manage the pain in the process
2. Did doc cut your pateller tendon?
3. Why some llers get bone non union like tall mf?
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Brother I'm considering this surgery in may
I want to ask that
1. How you manage the pain in the process
2. Did doc cut your pateller tendon?
3. Why some llers get bone non union like tall mf?
I suggest you to prepare yourself psychologically before opting to proceed with this surgery. Pain during the lengething phase is common but its manageable with painkillers. The most annoying problem is lack of sleep rather than pain. If you are thinking about this surgery and you are short , then go ahead and do it. You only live once.
I dont know how the dr cut the tendon as I was asleep during the procedure, its basically the sergoens job.
Tallmf's current status is ambiguous, I dont know much about him, if he still has non union or not. He hasnt posted his latest xray.
For non unions the probability is very low, its highly unlikely a healthy person would face such outcome. Its rare!
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Brother I'm considering this surgery in may
I want to ask that
1. How you manage the pain in the process
2. Did doc cut your pateller tendon?
3. Why some llers get bone non union like tall mf?
well it depends on bone break, if the surgeon doesn't break bone properly clean-cut, dead cells would get stuck in the gap, not only tall mf, apparently its confirmed one iraninan femur patient , 4cm ( another femur patient) and there was an Indian guy who did tibia surgery in 2019 . they all got non union. so it's better you avoid Sarin. If it is some other reason if they are healthy they would have got non union in both legs, but as far as my sources concerned all these patients got nonunion in one leg. so it is clearly Dr sarin's fault.
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Hello everyone!
Its been a total of 63 days with these frames on my legs and i have lengthened 1mm for 55 days. My target is still 7cm.
below is the link to my xray which I got done today.
https://ibb.co/4Nr4vSh
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Hello everyone!
Its been a total of 63 days with these frames on my legs and i have lengthened 1mm for 55 days. My target is still 7cm.
below is the link to my xray which I got done today.
https://ibb.co/4Nr4vSh
perfect :) if possible go for 7.5 cm
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Hey shortgunner why don't you have even a little bit of callus????how many days does it take to form callus and full consolidation.
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Hey shortgunner why don't you have even a little bit of callus????how many days does it take to form callus and full consolidation.
I have callus in right leg while the left leg doesnt seem to have any callus for now. I am still in lengthening period. Callus forms in consolidation phase which will start once I remove the frames and start to put some weight on my tibias.
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Wish u all the very best :D
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Hello everyone!
Its been a total of 63 days with these frames on my legs and i have lengthened 1mm for 55 days. My target is still 7cm.
below is the link to my xray which I got done today.
https://ibb.co/4Nr4vSh
Hi, Shortgunner
Just a question out of curiosity there is no callus are you still lengthening?
If you don't have any callus the weight bearing will be difficult after frem removal. I guss you will lend up in non union. Thats what i studied.
please go through with the earlier experiences here on the forum, most of them after questioning they just left their diaries incomplete.
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Hi, Shortgunner
Just a question out of curiosity there is no callus are you still lengthening?
If you don't have any callus the weight bearing will be difficult after frem removal. I guss you will lend up in non union. Thats what i studied.
please go through with the earlier experiences here on the forum, most of them after questioning they just left their diaries incomplete.
Yes, I am still lengthening 1mm everyday. You can read my post above regarding left leg callus. Callus usually shows up on xray after you start walking
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update- I could be operated on the 20th of april for the removal of external frame. I am hopeful of reaching 7 cm by the time. I have an xray scheduled on 13th which will make things more clear. I will post the xray here. Also, I am quite flexible and have no signs of ballerina till now.
On the other hand I feel it necessary at this point to mention the roles of the physio (Mr shariq) and caretaker (mr akbar) in making my lengething journey fluent given the abysmal situation we have on our hands with this deadly virus. While the whole world is taking leaves from work mr shariq and mr akbar have been working unaltered.I have physio twice a day every single day. I do lots of stretching exercises on my own as welI and I believe its been the main reason behind reaching my target of 7cm without havinh ballerina. I do have some discomfort which started around last week, I have some sort of muscle, nerve pain under the knee in right leg which is due to the pin site cut. I cant really move my right leg the more i move it the more the pin cuts. Other than this, I am in good shape. I am more positive than ever before.
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update- I could be operated on the 20th of april for the removal of external frame. I am hopeful of reaching 7 cm by the time. I have an xray scheduled on 13th which will make things more clear. I will post the xray here. Also, I am quite flexible and have no signs of ballerina till now.
On the other hand I feel it necessary at this point to mention the roles of the physio (Mr shariq) and caretaker (mr akbar) in making my lengething journey fluent given the abysmal situation we have on our hands with this deadly virus. While the whole world is taking leaves from work mr shariq and mr akbar have been working unaltered.I have physio twice a day every single day. I do lots of stretching exercises on my own as welI and I believe its been the main reason behind reaching my target of 7cm without havinh ballerina. I do have some discomfort which started around last week, I have some sort of muscle, nerve pain under the knee in right leg which is due to the pin site cut. I cant really move my right leg the more i move it the more the pin cuts. Other than this, I am in good shape. I am more positive than ever before.
try to 7.5 cm
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Hi Shortgunner
I am very happy for you and glad that you have been able to make a progress despite total lockdown in India due to corona.
I am just a little concerned about your bone growth. You are actually not really right about bone or callus formation. Callus should form soon after you start lengthening not after stopping lengthening or consolidation. Dr. Paley or other reputable LL doctors won't allow patients to lengthen without forming a good callus. No or little callus is an indication of lack of or at least bad consolidation. Of course, there is a possibility your bones will give in the end. Even in this case, it will take more than other people.
Therefore, I suggest you to stop lengthening until next X-ray and to try to stand or walk as much as possible to make sure you have a good or at least minimum callus formation.
Good luck!
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Hi Shortgunner
I am very happy for you and glad that you have been able to make a progress despite total lockdown in India due to corona.
I am just a little concerned about your bone growth. You are actually not really right about bone or callus formation. Callus should form soon after you start lengthening not after stopping lengthening or consolidation. Dr. Paley or other reputable LL doctors won't allow patients to lengthen without forming a good callus. No or little callus is an indication of lack of or at least bad consolidation. Of course, there is a possibility your bones will give in the end. Even in this case, it will take more than other people.
Therefore, I suggest you to stop lengthening until next X-ray and to try to stand or walk as much as possible to make sure you have a good or at least minimum callus formation.
Good luck!
Thanks for your concern.
I have not tried to stand up or walk yet , callus forms significantly after you stop lengthening and start to stand or walk. I will stop lengthening on 20th and I beleive I will have a strong and dense callus afterwards.
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try to 7.5 cm
I am at 6cm and have no hint of getting ballerina however my target is to get 7cm only
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Hi Shortgunner
I am very happy for you and glad that you have been able to make a progress despite total lockdown in India due to corona.
I am just a little concerned about your bone growth. You are actually not really right about bone or callus formation. Callus should form soon after you start lengthening not after stopping lengthening or consolidation. Dr. Paley or other reputable LL doctors won't allow patients to lengthen without forming a good callus. No or little callus is an indication of lack of or at least bad consolidation. Of course, there is a possibility your bones will give in the end. Even in this case, it will take more than other people.
Therefore, I suggest you to stop lengthening until next X-ray and to try to stand or walk as much as possible to make sure you have a good or at least minimum callus formation.
Good luck!
even if he wishes, he cannot stand or walk, because they are doing it in a frame which has only two half pins and two wires. So it's waiting game if he is lucky he will be okay if he is unlucky then sorry.
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even if he wishes, he cannot stand or walk, because they are doing it in a frame which has only two half pins and two wires. So it's waiting game if he is lucky he will be okay if he is unlucky then sorry.
Please dont write your opinion on my diary. I dont want a pessimist person ruin my post. This is a humble request. After this I wont hold back anymore cus i am getting annoyed now, you have this negative vibe you reflect everytime you post. I know you have grudges against Dr sarin but dont fking show them here. This is my diary and its not a platform for you to come and write crap about some irrelevant stuff. I am more than happy with my progress.
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Update: had xray today. My left callus looks more denser now compared to the last xray.
https://ibb.co/cFbLs3s
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Thanks for your concern.
I have not tried to stand up or walk yet , callus forms significantly after you stop lengthening and start to stand or walk. I will stop lengthening on 20th and I beleive I will have a strong and dense callus afterwards.
Hi Shortgunner
Although callus can form much more after stopping lengthening, seeing a good callus formation is a good indicator for bone formation. It is somewhat risky to keep lengthening without a good or at least some callus formation. I did CLL with Dr. Paley and they really care about callus formation. I also visited Dr. Lee's hospital and talked to him and his patients. Callus formation is a very important factor to monitor during lengthening. I am not trying to discourage or to warn you but to help you recover faster. Making sure good callus formation may save you much more time down the road.
By the way, I thought LON method is a weight bearing at least in Dr. Lee's case. If it is, try to stand or walk. If not, of course you just cant' so do any other PTs as much as you can.
Good luck!
Best,
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Is it just me or do I see literally no callus? On either of the legs' main bone. Accordion method needed to be done, I think it might be too late now though
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Ghkid2019 if u observe closely u can actually see that there is a little bit of callus in the tibia and a good amount on the fibula for his journey as far..coz he has to wait more to see even more callus.
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Update: I underwent the external frame removal surgery today. Finally my legs are free!
https://ibb.co/gM2K44N
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Update: its been 3 days since i have removed the frames amd i feel very good however there is a lot of weakness in my legs. Also i have some pain here and there in the knees which will go away after a month or so. Overall i am very happy with the surgery and my total height gain was 7.3 cm which makes me 172.3 taller.
Here is the xray link:
https://ibb.co/F0TzJtk
https://ibb.co/fMhfnVJ
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Update:
Hey everyone!
I got xray done today , which comes 19 days after the external frame removal. I would like to tell everyone I am relieved and very satisfied with my progress. When I saw my xray i was just ecstatic i cant put in words how it felt like. I gained a total of 7.3 cms which makes me 172.3. I have no ballerina so i can put my feet completely on the ground. I have started to walk using a walker quite a few times but not much. Overall I am very satisfied and happy with the way things have gone by.
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Here are the links for the xray. This is kick in the ass for people who were trying their best to demotivate me during the lengething phase
https://ibb.co/yB0ySQx
https://ibb.co/HYth3yg
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Your callus looks good, you will recover very soon continue with your stretches. Stay motivated😊
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Hi Shortgunner
How are you ? How is your recovery going ?
Within 2 week my surgery is planned with Dr sarin
What are the suggestions you will advise for lengthening and recovery,
Thanks
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Here are the links for the xray. This is kick in the ass for people who were trying their best to demotivate me during the lengething phase
https://ibb.co/yB0ySQx
https://ibb.co/HYth3yg
Congrats! Bro. Can i have a question ? Do you have to be on wheel chair all the time during lengthening phase? Do you have any trouble moving around ?
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Callus looks fine. You'll recover eventually. Update us on your progress. Looks good so far
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https://imgur.com/gallery/KD51Qom
This video is taken exactly 7 months after my first surgery. I have been really lucky with my progress. My callus is perfect and I start to jog a little as well. I am really grateful to Dr sarin and his team especially the Physio Mr shariq for making this dream of mine come true.
I might not be active on this forum due to personal reasons and hence for visitors reading my story , I have just one advice, If you are short and want to change your life and the way people look at you just go ahead with this surgery. I cant explain how happy I am feeling after getting this surgery done.