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Title: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: MidGuy on May 09, 2020, 08:10:26 AM
I got the surgery yesterday have little to no pain. My doctor is Mehmet Kocaoglu, he had worked with Mr. Paley for a while, he is the best in Turkey. I will keep here updated.
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: MidGuy on May 10, 2020, 12:13:37 PM
My second day after surgery. I am better. I was able to sit in closet which i wasnt at girst day because of the edema in my legs. We started lengthenin from the first day by 0.25mm per day. Walking makes me tired other than that, in overall i am good. I rest all day. Spend my time in social media or sleeping. Until the last week, I didnt know what is lon, precice or stryde. I decided the surgery in two days by reading this forum. I went to doctor in 4 May and they took me for surgery in 6 May. So it was a quick decision process for me. Because I knew if I dont act quickly I would postpone this surgery and live as a short person throughout the life.
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: MidGuy on May 11, 2020, 09:46:49 AM
It is my third post surgery day. My blood levels were low so they gave me blood. I feel great noe. My physio therapist came and said it is iöportant for me to keep my knees tight. So I am putting pillow under my feet to make my knees tight. I am great overall, I take my supplements. My doctors visita me daily which makes me feel safe.
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: 184dream on May 11, 2020, 07:50:39 PM
About the tendon release surgery what did the doctor told you about biceps femoris. It band. Did you meet an older patient
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: Skyisthelimit on May 11, 2020, 10:01:41 PM
First time I hear about this doctor... Really doubt he’s the best in Turkey.
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: seriouslyinjured on May 17, 2020, 04:11:40 PM
i saw this doctor 1 month after i stopped lengthening in istanbul for an opinion when i was i was having serious problems from doctor ozgar wannabe taller doctor.  The physio clinic 6.25 Altiyîrmîbeş the 2 main owners worked for top football club recommended Mehmet,

mehmet is the first limb lengthening doctor in turkey he is legit.

he was the one who brought it to my attention i was in serious trouble and needed surgical intervention, he is quite old fashioned and doesn't like precise or stryde but told me about the complications from my xrays i was having with no healing 1 month after lengthening. He knew his stuff

He is quite arrogant and is expensive but he is an expert in LON and illazorof, if you want to have surgery in any of those methods in turkey he is the most experienced. after i saw him thats when i got in touch with giotikas and went to greece for treatment.

Mehmet also told me alot of very negative things about wannabe tallers doctors in disgust and dislikes them immensely.
I dont think he advertises much since he is well known and has a constant influx of patients for surgery
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: MidGuy on May 26, 2020, 01:25:24 PM
It is 18th day from my surgery. I lay in bed most of my time. I walk for 30-45 minutes a day(40m). We are doing stretching from day 5. It hurts as hell but it is okay. Other than that I work from home thanks to corona. I am painless generally. It may be painful to walk a bit but it is bearable. It gets better each day. Tomorrow is my first control. I have been lenghtening 1mm for 10 days.
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: shegella on May 26, 2020, 03:16:31 PM
It is 18th day from my surgery. I lay in bed most of my time. I walk for 30-45 minutes a day(40m). We are doing stretching from day 5. It hurts as hell but it is okay. Other than that I work from home thanks to corona. I am painless generally. It may be painful to walk a bit but it is bearable. It gets better each day. Tomorrow is my first control. I have been lenghtening 1mm for 10 days.
,
how is his hospital?
are you in american hospital.
what method you did?
ı hope you are well, he is most expensive doctor in turkey.

ı am  a native turkish guy , ı can not get this operation for him.but ı wanna see him in hospital.
ı am thinking muharrem inan , second best choosen after mehmet .

Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: shegella on May 26, 2020, 03:24:13 PM
First time I hear about this doctor... Really doubt he’s the best in Turkey.
cos you are a scammer.
mehmect kocaoğlu is the first ll performer in turkey . he is woriking in best hospital in turkey. and you didnt heard him but you heard halil buldu
?? so funny they are tourst organizers not doctors. they dont have any repitation on cool clinics.
 ı saw your fake comments
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: MidGuy on May 27, 2020, 07:50:00 AM
I did take the surgery at Cevre Hospital because it was the only hospital that didnt treat corona patients at the time
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: shegella on May 27, 2020, 11:44:31 AM
I did take the surgery at Cevre Hospital because it was the only hospital that didnt treat corona patients at the time

Or maybe doc. Wants to decrease prize cos mehmet kocaoğlu is actually american hospital doc.
That most cool and expensive hospital of turkey.
Çevre is just random hospital .
İn that point ,most important thing doc not hospital:)))

How is your uprage mehmet kocaoğlu is that good?
Ör just overrated??
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: MidGuy on May 27, 2020, 03:03:55 PM
I am great he is really best  8)
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: shegella on May 27, 2020, 03:55:08 PM
I am great he is really best  8)

Cool bro, I hope all process will be ok.
I will always be here to see Results.

Maybe ı cant efford mehmet but will support This diary.
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: Skyisthelimit on May 27, 2020, 05:45:08 PM
cos you are a scammer.
mehmect kocaoğlu is the first ll performer in turkey . he is woriking in best hospital in turkey. and you didnt heard him but you heard halil buldu
?? so funny they are tourst organizers not doctors. they dont have any repitation on cool clinics.
 ı saw your fake comments

Apparently I’m a scammer now🤔 Someone should have mentioned it earlier. How exactly are my comments fake? I haven’t promoted anyone. I haven’t even went through Ll yet. I’m here looking for answers to my queries like everyone else here. Stop accusing such things without evidence. 😂 I stated a fact, “never heard of this doctor”, and then an opinion “I really doubt he’s the best doctor in Turkey, because I’ve never heard of him.” Usually reputation follows a doctor, but this one I’ve never heard of, that’s it. Now I’m sorry if my opinion hurt your feelings, that wasn’t my intention.
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: MidGuy on June 30, 2020, 07:57:15 AM
4.1 cm

Day 50 post op

I am good overall. My surgery related pains went away. My legs mobility is great for one week. Kocaoglu has a great physiotherapist who is Mr. Apelyan, thanks to him my knee flexion enhanced day by day after surgery which is really rare. It was around 30 degrees after operation and now 60 degrees even though I lenghtened 4.1 cm. And my legs gains mobility each new day. I can now walk easily with crutches. Stand still for a few second without aid. I am thinking of lengthening 7.5. So there is 34 days to go at least and I am at my bed for 51 days which is not fun. I am workşng at home and getting paid that is a relieving point. I am doing stretching everyday with mr. Apelyan bıt my legs started to feel tight already. My sleeps are bad for two weeks, I can sleep 6 hours in a day. However, today i slept 10 hours undisrupted which i dont know how did be possible :) I was 172 in day and now 176 my target is 179.5. My initial target was 6cm lengthening but boy It was a painful period so I want to get what I can get from it. I know it will be also very hard to do 7.5 but it is a lifetime decision so it is not important how painful it is. Yesterday I cried when i looked to mirror because of happiness when I saw myself as a normal male. I have been always a self confident person throughout my life which my height didnt affected. Actually 172 is a decent height with 2cm insoles. But when i looked mirror I would feel inadequate. My height would always bother me and It was challenge for me which I would never overcome because I never saw surgery as an option. So here I am, after a painful 50 days, as 176cm male, sharing how happy I am that I did get this operation because of the boredom that corona lockdown brought to my life. I am thankful every day.
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: MidGuy on July 11, 2020, 01:37:44 PM
5.3 cm

I am painless almost and my sleeps are average which is good. My legs started to get tight especially my hips flexors. I do physio 6 days in a week which prevents excessive tightness in my legs. My starting goal was 6.5cms but now I decided to go for 8cm because why not :) Life is boring at bed but 27 days to go :)
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: a on July 11, 2020, 05:16:12 PM
Where are you from MidGuy
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: MidGuy on July 12, 2020, 03:33:55 PM
Turkey
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: Skyisthelimit on July 17, 2020, 08:24:43 PM
Hello, Midguy.
How’s everything going? Are you still in the lengthening stage?
I have a few questions, if you could clear it for me!
Does Dr. Mehmet Kocaoglu take many cosmetic cases?
How much did you pay for the surgery with him?
Hope everything is going well! Keep it up!
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: MidGuy on July 18, 2020, 03:06:48 PM
Hello, Midguy.
How’s everything going? Are you still in the lengthening stage?
I have a few questions, if you could clear it for me!
Does Dr. Mehmet Kocaoglu take many cosmetic cases?
How much did you pay for the surgery with him?
Hope everything is going well! Keep it up!

Hi Skyisthelimit,

Everything is fine, I am at 6.0cm still lenghtening now and my legs are still in good condition regarding flexibility. Yes he has no problem taking cosmetics. I paid around 25k dollars including hospital.
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: more on July 18, 2020, 04:40:01 PM
Sir if is it possible can you share your x-rays. it would be a great help for potential patients
Thanks
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: azman on July 18, 2020, 05:07:45 PM
Sir if is it possible can you share your x-rays. it would be a great help for potential patients
Thanks

Now thats the nicest way you have asked and posted.  Guess you are learning.  It’s not what is asked, but how it’s asked.  Dr. X-ray More has hit again. 

@MidGuy. Thanks for posting your dairy of your journey.  Looking forward to reading your future updates. 
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: more on July 18, 2020, 05:13:38 PM
Now thats the nicest way you have asked and posted.  Guess you are learning.  It’s not what is asked, but how it’s asked.  Dr. X-ray More has hit again. 

@MidGuy. Thanks for posting your dairy of your journey.  Looking forward to reading your future updates.

I asked him nicely lets see what will he say
if he will act like you. I will not let him go easliy
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: azman on July 18, 2020, 09:15:32 PM
I asked him nicely lets see what will he say
if he will act like you. I will not let him go easliy

@Dr. X-ray More - Let him go easily? Really, are you his girlfriend?  What a joker you are or should say a female dog. Let’s see if you are smart enough to know what’s a female dog called.
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: more on July 19, 2020, 01:53:14 AM
@Dr. X-ray More - Let him go easily? Really, are you his girlfriend?  What a joker you are or should say a female dog. Let’s see if you are smart enough to know what’s a female dog called.
You can just use abusive language that's it
Go and update your diary . Don't following like my dog do
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: azman on July 19, 2020, 02:11:14 AM
You can just use abusive language that's it
Go and update your diary . Don't following like my dog do

There you go crying again.  Be nice to other members on this forum and I’ll be nice to you.  Your  tone of voice will offend most members and discourage other to update their dairy or even start one. 

Oh before I set you free, don’t be a female dog on this forum.  Use this forum to gain knowledge.  Good luck on your CLL journey - More.
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: Cpl2012 on July 19, 2020, 05:39:54 AM
4.1 cm

Day 50 post op

I am good overall. My surgery related pains went away. My legs mobility is great for one week. Kocaoglu has a great physiotherapist who is Mr. Apelyan, thanks to him my knee flexion enhanced day by day after surgery which is really rare. It was around 30 degrees after operation and now 60 degrees even though I lenghtened 4.1 cm. And my legs gains mobility each new day. I can now walk easily with crutches. Stand still for a few second without aid. I am thinking of lengthening 7.5. So there is 34 days to go at least and I am at my bed for 51 days which is not fun. I am workşng at home and getting paid that is a relieving point. I am doing stretching everyday with mr. Apelyan bıt my legs started to feel tight already. My sleeps are bad for two weeks, I can sleep 6 hours in a day. However, today i slept 10 hours undisrupted which i dont know how did be possible :) I was 172 in day and now 176 my target is 179.5. My initial target was 6cm lengthening but boy It was a painful period so I want to get what I can get from it. I know it will be also very hard to do 7.5 but it is a lifetime decision so it is not important how painful it is. Yesterday I cried when i looked to mirror because of happiness when I saw myself as a normal male. I have been always a self confident person throughout my life which my height didnt affected. Actually 172 is a decent height with 2cm insoles. But when i looked mirror I would feel inadequate. My height would always bother me and It was challenge for me which I would never overcome because I never saw surgery as an option. So here I am, after a painful 50 days, as 176cm male, sharing how happy I am that I did get this operation because of the boredom that corona lockdown brought to my life. I am thankful every day.
Hi Midguy. Are you staying the hospital for the whole period of lengthening or you stay at a hotel?
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: MidGuy on July 19, 2020, 09:23:43 AM
Hi Midguy. Are you staying the hospital for the whole period of lengthening or you stay at a hotel?

Hi Cpl2012,
I stay at home.
My physiotherapist comes to my home.
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: MidGuy on July 19, 2020, 09:33:29 AM
https://ibb.co/gy1TXm1
https://ibb.co/Lz3GQXp

My X-rays at 3.5cm.

They are pretty, arent they? ;D
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: more on July 19, 2020, 10:01:21 AM
https://ibb.co/gy1TXm1
https://ibb.co/Lz3GQXp

My X-rays at 3.5cm.

They are pretty, arent they? ;D
Till now all look good
Your doctor memhet have experience and trained by dr. paley.I  think This the first diary of his patient??
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: a on July 19, 2020, 11:15:36 AM
Mehmet Kocaoglu and Metin Kucukkaya.
Both of the docs are as experienced as Giotikas and the others.
I'm pretty sure nothing would go wrong with Kucukkaya especially.
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: MidGuy on July 19, 2020, 01:45:04 PM
Till now all look good
Your doctor memhet have experience and trained by dr. paley.I  think This the first diary of his patient??

Yeah, I guess
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: more on July 19, 2020, 05:46:50 PM
Yeah, I guess

Lengthening period just an excitement and hope real results come after lengthening . How correct you were choosing a Surgeon and method
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: MidGuy on July 22, 2020, 07:21:28 PM
It is weird that I lengthened 6.4cms but when I measure my height I see that it only increased 4cms. And I am sure that I stand upright when I measure it. Is there anyone who has any idea about it?
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: more on July 23, 2020, 06:56:23 AM
You have completed lengthening (distraction) or still lengthening?.
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: MidGuy on July 23, 2020, 09:45:25 AM
Still lenghtening
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: more on July 23, 2020, 10:08:47 AM
You cannot measure your height exactly when you are standing with the device.
postural error and height difference between morning and evening
may be thses are the reasons .
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: MidGuy on July 28, 2020, 07:44:05 PM
My doctor measures the lenghtening from the inner side of bone not the outside (side of the fixator). Do you think it is correct bcs every xray I see in this forum are measured from the fixator side.
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: azman on July 29, 2020, 09:21:14 AM
Hey Midguy

Just wondering what made you decide to have CLL with Dr. Mehmet Kocaoglu compare to the other CLL doctors in Turkey? 

You are from Turkey and your insight on this subject will be very helpful to other members looking to do CLL in Turkey.

Looking forward in reading your updates.
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: MidGuy on July 29, 2020, 01:37:25 PM
Hi azman,

In Turkish forums Kocaoglu is the biggest name. There was tens of patients who adored him not only bcs of LL but other surgeries too. Then I looked his resume and I saw that he is the one that brought LL to Turkey. Also he is a fellow of Paley. So, for Turkey, He and Metin Kucukkaya were the only options for me to even consider getting surgery. In corona lockdown, Kucukkaya hadnt made surgeries, so It wasnt hard for me choose a doctor :) Yesterday, I was with the doctor. I am now at 6.5cm and continue to 8cm by turning three times a day which will end at 18 August, and everything is going smooth. I am in great condition thanks to Kocaoglu’s therapist Mr. Apelyan. I got 5 days in a week physiotherapy and for the last month it is 6 days in a week. Apelyan also worked with Paley thanks to Kocaoglu. If you ask me, both Kocaoglu and Kucukkaya are great and for Kocaoglu I can say that he has been making LL for 30 years and he is really confident in his job. When I went to talk to him, he was so calm that at that moment LL was like a hobby to him. So I went with him and I am happy with my choice for now.
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: Bob on July 29, 2020, 02:58:02 PM
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Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: ididUrMIM on July 29, 2020, 03:01:49 PM
Hi azman,

In Turkish forums Kocaoglu is the biggest name. There was tens of patients who adored him not only bcs of LL but other surgeries too. Then I looked his resume and I saw that he is the one that brought LL to Turkey. Also he is a fellow of Paley. So, for Turkey, He and Metin Kucukkaya were the only options for me to even consider getting surgery. In corona lockdown, Kucukkaya hadnt made surgeries, so It wasnt hard for me choose a doctor :) Yesterday, I was with the doctor. I am now at 6.5cm and continue to 8cm by turning three times a day which will end at 18 August, and everything is going smooth. I am in great condition thanks to Kocaoglu’s therapist Mr. Apelyan. I got 5 days in a week physiotherapy and for the last month it is 6 days in a week. Apelyan also worked with Paley thanks to Kocaoglu. If you ask me, both Kocaoglu and Kucukkaya are great and for Kocaoglu I can say that he has been making LL for 30 years and he is really confident in his job. When I went to talk to him, he was so calm that at that moment LL was like a hobby to him. So I went with him and I am happy with my choice for now.

Hi MidGuy,
How much are you paying at the moment for your procedure?
Would you mind giving me your doctors contact details so I can query in better detail?
Cheers
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: MidGuy on July 29, 2020, 04:38:03 PM
Hi MidGuy,
How much are you paying at the moment for your procedure?
Would you mind giving me your doctors contact details so I can query in better detail?
Cheers

+90 (212) 234 92 92
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: more on July 29, 2020, 05:27:28 PM
Hi azman,

In Turkish forums Kocaoglu is the biggest name. There was tens of patients who adored him not only bcs of LL but other surgeries too. Then I looked his resume and I saw that he is the one that brought LL to Turkey. Also he is a fellow of Paley. So, for Turkey, He and Metin Kucukkaya were the only options for me to even consider getting surgery. In corona lockdown, Kucukkaya hadnt made surgeries, so It wasnt hard for me choose a doctor :) Yesterday, I was with the doctor. I am now at 6.5cm and continue to 8cm by turning three times a day which will end at 18 August, and everything is going smooth. I am in great condition thanks to Kocaoglu’s therapist Mr. Apelyan. I got 5 days in a week physiotherapy and for the last month it is 6 days in a week. Apelyan also worked with Paley thanks to Kocaoglu. If you ask me, both Kocaoglu and Kucukkaya are great and for Kocaoglu I can say that he has been making LL for 30 years and he is really confident in his job. When I went to talk to him, he was so calm that at that moment LL was like a hobby to him. So I went with him and I am happy with my choice for now.
Your drs Names are too hard to spell and speak,
Good luck , i hope you will achive 8 cm without complications
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: azman on July 29, 2020, 07:00:19 PM
Hi azman,

In Turkish forums Kocaoglu is the biggest name. There was tens of patients who adored him not only bcs of LL but other surgeries too. Then I looked his resume and I saw that he is the one that brought LL to Turkey. Also he is a fellow of Paley. So, for Turkey, He and Metin Kucukkaya were the only options for me to even consider getting surgery. In corona lockdown, Kucukkaya hadnt made surgeries, so It wasnt hard for me choose a doctor :) Yesterday, I was with the doctor. I am now at 6.5cm and continue to 8cm by turning three times a day which will end at 18 August, and everything is going smooth. I am in great condition thanks to Kocaoglu’s therapist Mr. Apelyan. I got 5 days in a week physiotherapy and for the last month it is 6 days in a week. Apelyan also worked with Paley thanks to Kocaoglu. If you ask me, both Kocaoglu and Kucukkaya are great and for Kocaoglu I can say that he has been making LL for 30 years and he is really confident in his job. When I went to talk to him, he was so calm that at that moment LL was like a hobby to him. So I went with him and I am happy with my choice for now.

Thank you, brother.
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: MidGuy on July 29, 2020, 07:46:41 PM
Thank you guys :)
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: Skyisthelimit on July 29, 2020, 08:40:04 PM
Hey MidGuy,
Hope all is going well. Did you meet any other Cll patient so far?
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: fritz on July 29, 2020, 11:12:27 PM
Hi Midguy,

I sent you a message. Can you please check your inbox?
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: more on July 30, 2020, 11:28:09 AM
You cannot measure your height exactly when you are standing with the device.
postural error and height difference between morning and evening
may be thses are the reasons .
measurement can be done either medial or lateral side if bone are straight ,
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: more on July 30, 2020, 12:38:06 PM
My doctor measures the lenghtening from the inner side of bone not the outside (side of the fixator). Do you think it is correct bcs every xray I see in this forum are measured from the fixator side.

Measurement can be done either medial or lateral side if bone are straight.
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: MidGuy on July 30, 2020, 02:55:33 PM
Bone is not straight my doc made correction bcs I got bow legs
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: zhm on August 04, 2020, 11:01:37 AM
Hi midguy,

Sorry to hear about the bow leg, hope it’s not a huge problem.
Did you have to stop lengthening for the correction of bow leg to be corrected?
I also have a few more questions, which I hope you won’t mind answering.

1. How often do you visit the doctor for check up? Every few days or weekly ?
2. Since you’re doing LON femur, have you had any infections so far (small or big)?
3. How many millimetres (mm) you lengthening per day? 1 mm or 0.75 mm?
4. Are taking any supplements to help bone growth/healing?

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: MidGuy on August 04, 2020, 04:19:08 PM
Hi midguy,

Sorry to hear about the bow leg, hope it’s not a huge problem.
Did you have to stop lengthening for the correction of bow leg to be corrected?
I also have a few more questions, which I hope you won’t mind answering.

1. How often do you visit the doctor for check up? Every few days or weekly ?
2. Since you’re doing LON femur, have you had any infections so far (small or big)?
3. How many millimetres (mm) you lengthening per day? 1 mm or 0.75 mm?
4. Are taking any supplements to help bone growth/healing?

Thanks in advance


Thanks man!

First of all bow legs was a little issue and Kocaoglu fixed it in the same surgery, so thats ok :)

Normally I visited him per two weeks, however in last month he went to holiday so there was 35 days between two visits but my process turned out to be okay so it wasnt problem.
I was lenghtening 1mm until 5.5cm. since then I am lenghtening 0.75 bcs it is more comfortable and It is not really important whether you leave fixators early or late... Actually later you leave fixators betters bcs really durable and protects the bone. I didnt have any infections but I make it cleaned every two days. I take Calsium 1000mg, magnesium 395mg, and b vitamins each day. Also drink a liter milk a day. My doc says milk is not requires but I have great bone production and I think it is because of milk and cheese. Nowadays there is a pain at my right upper pin site assistant said it is due to stretching of the skin but it may be infection, if it is infection I will take antibiotics so It is not much of a deal :)



Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: a on August 04, 2020, 04:31:30 PM
MidGuy, Regards brother

Can we talk on instagram or somewhere else? I want to talk to you since i'm considering the surgery in Turkey (%60)
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: more on August 05, 2020, 06:15:50 PM
Thanks man!

First of all bow legs was a little issue and Kocaoglu fixed it in the same surgery, so thats ok :)

Normally I visited him per two weeks, however in last month he went to holiday so there was 35 days between two visits but my process turned out to be okay so it wasnt problem.
I was lenghtening 1mm until 5.5cm. since then I am lenghtening 0.75 bcs it is more comfortable and It is not really important whether you leave fixators early or late... Actually later you leave fixators betters bcs really durable and protects the bone. I didnt have any infections but I make it cleaned every two days. I take Calsium 1000mg, magnesium 395mg, and b vitamins each day. Also drink a liter milk a day. My doc says milk is not requires but I have great bone production and I think it is because of milk and cheese. Nowadays there is a pain at my right upper pin site assistant said it is due to stretching of the skin but it may be infection, if it is infection I will take antibiotics so It is not much of a deal :)

You had bow leg after surgery? or before surgery ?
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: MidGuy on August 06, 2020, 08:44:27 AM
before
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: Stealth on August 16, 2020, 12:33:26 AM
With this LON treatment how long do you have to in frames for? Can you get knee problems? Do they go through knee? And how long before you walk? Ae you left with nails inside your body when do they take those out?
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: MidGuy on August 20, 2020, 10:44:40 AM
Today my fixators are removed. There is little pain in my “old” pin sites :) I feel great for nearly finishing this hard and long process. I woke up two hours after my surgery.
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: drxboom on August 20, 2020, 10:48:47 AM
How about your walking
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: MidGuy on August 20, 2020, 11:56:33 AM
I didbt walk yet but my legs are quite mobile compared to with fixators.
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: MidGuy on August 20, 2020, 12:47:40 PM
https://ibb.co/sb43PQy
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: lolwhyamidoingthis on August 20, 2020, 03:03:28 PM
Congratulations man, how many cm did you reach? I'm on about 4.5-5cm with my LON femur lengthening atm, can't wait to get these fixators off. How does it feel to finally be free? XD
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: MidGuy on August 20, 2020, 03:35:57 PM
Thanks man, I lenghtened 8cm and I am 181 now. My fixators were not bothering me much so it is not a enormous relief but of course it is better without them.But especially knowing that I do not need any other surgery to return to my normal life is wonderful :)
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: zhm on August 24, 2020, 12:11:35 AM
Great that’s you finished the lengthening part of the process.
Keep posting updates of  your recovery until you’re able to walk without crutches. I’m looking to have this procedure done soon.

Couple of questions:

1. For the bone healing/forming phase, do you still have to do the same physio therapy as during the lengthining.

2. Did the doctor give you an expected time period of when you will realistically be able to walk without crutches. They say it’s normally 2 months after lengthening process that patients can walk on their own without crutches

Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: MidGuy on August 24, 2020, 10:42:46 AM
Great that’s you finished the lengthening part of the process.
Keep posting updates of  your recovery until you’re able to walk without crutches. I’m looking to have this procedure done soon.

Couple of questions:

1. For the bone healing/forming phase, do you still have to do the same physio therapy as during the lengthining.

2. Did the doctor give you an expected time period of when you will realistically be able to walk without crutches. They say it’s normally 2 months after lengthening process that patients can walk on their own without crutches



Are you giving me orders?
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: more on August 24, 2020, 12:00:38 PM
Are you giving me orders?

Are you king ? This is not an order . You are writing a diary for information to future LLrs , will face such questions if anyone writing diary , Future LLs have curiosity and this guy asked you humbly and gently , Personally i hate  those who  run away from questions and show a negative attitude towards future LLs
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: zhm on August 24, 2020, 01:50:38 PM
You didn’t have to take that the wrong way.
As I am gonna have this process done, was just encouraging you to keep updating even after lengthening phase.
So we all have a better insight.
Don’t take that as me being disrespectful.

Anyway, we all want the best for you. Hope you update when you are able to.



Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: MidGuy on August 24, 2020, 04:16:31 PM
Are you king ? This is not an order . You are writing a diary for information to future LLrs , will face such questions if anyone writing diary , Future LLs have curiosity and this guy asked you humbly and gently , Personally i hate  those who  run away from questions and show a negative attitude towards future LLs

Yes I am king.
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: MidGuy on August 27, 2020, 11:48:19 AM
https://ibb.co/x1dN6Fw
https://ibb.co/kgtdKxB
https://ibb.co/tM9JPMY

My scars after fixator removal. We called cosmetic surgeon Mr. Ilkay and he created wonders in these sutures.  I recommend everyone to call an cosmetic surgeon to surgery. I guess my scars will be like stryde patients’ scars :) I saved 30k euros by just paying 1k euro for cosmetic suture. Also, I want to clarify another point about LON method. Infections are WAY much overrated. I was non infected for three months and it surprised my assistans, then one week to surgery upper middle screw in my right leg got infected and it was very painful but not in the same way that my bones hurt. It is a different kind of pain and it made me scream but if i was to asked choose one i would choose it rather than bone pain that i experienced in the early days of distraction phase. I used antibiotics and it cut the pain the day after. I walked MUCH in lenghtening phase and it relieved me in this process. If it was stryde my doc wouldnt let me walk even though they are weight bearing. It is another advantage of LON over stryde. My scars will be nothing in a year, I am happy that I paid that extra one k euro for cosmetic suture and I suggest everbody to follow this path. LON + cosmetics suture created wonders for me.

I am healing know, Even though my doctor told me that I can walk in house, I prefer wheelchair to go to toilet. For those who will ask, Yes I CAN walk but I prefer not to. I continue to calcium and magnesium supplements. I didnt use painkillers after first month of surgery, so it aldo makes me relieved about question whether I pushed limits of my body. I did physio exercises 6 day in a week. Yes, It costed a bit more but these little costs are nothing compared to surgery cost and they were game changers for me.

My right knee mobility is really bad but I think thanks to physio it will be return to normal in a month or so.

I completed the courses I always wanted, read books I always postponed. Learnt to be a man of habit In this LONG process. It was a an opportunity for me to think about my life and improve myself. Also I learned the importance of magnesium for human body in this process. I slept best sleeps of my life in this process thanks to magnesim supplement intake and I will continue to take magnesium until the last day of my life.

I am grateful to god for everything.

If it wasnt for this forum, I dont know if I would ever go under this surgery ever, So I wanted to give back to it whatever I can.
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: ghkid2019 on August 27, 2020, 12:22:48 PM
Congrats MidGuy. Please note though, you can certainly walk with stryde during lengthening, your surgeon is not correct. It is even recommend to walk and bear some weight with the stryde nail, as it builds bone callus faster, and the walking on stryde is easier than on LON just because the complications from fixators usually disincentivizes people from walking too much. You're right tho, you saved 30k euros. That's nothing to scoff at, especially when you're already gone through it and the result will more or less be similar!

Congrats
Regardless, your scars look very nice. Amazing job by that cosmetic surgeon, it's very cool to see photos of someone who did scar removal.

What's your stats now 181cm? So you did 8cm lengthening and was 173cm before? Amazing change!
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: MidGuy on August 27, 2020, 02:43:36 PM
Thanks man
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: LON-next on September 01, 2020, 04:54:12 PM
Hi Midguy

Do you think that your muscle tissue could have possible handled going to 9 cm if you wanted or do you think you reached the max your femur tissues could take ?

Also, I have sent you a PM can you give me reply when you can please
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: MidGuy on September 03, 2020, 10:11:17 AM
I think it was possible. Like I said before I didnt use painkiller at lenghtening process.

BUT, my left foot ring finger were twitching a bit in every one or two hours.
Also, my left pollex was also twitching. My prof said my foot finger was twitching because my sciatic nerve started to alarm. Also my physio said that my hand ring was twitching MAY be caused by sciatic nerve pulling spinal cord.

Another point is that, the pain in my right middle pin cite was caused by the strain in my skin not by infection and it was VERY bad, so, my skin was also alarming. Could I continue? Exactly. But I didnt want to risk 1) My spinal cord  2) My sciatic nerve. Also, even though I don't care, my femur/tibia ratio is pretty high now, Every nanometers lengthened from this point would make it worse.

For all these reasons I stopped at 8.1 cm.

However, when I measure my height It is 7cm higher than my old height. I think is because of flexion in my hip flexors and it will return to normal with time. Is there anybody who experienced same situation and then reached the expected height?
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: LON-next on September 03, 2020, 12:10:26 PM
Yh, that makes sense. Ultimately your body will give you indications that you’ve reached max length.

Btw, I don’t know if you’ve already mentioned in this thread, but what was your starting height.
This will give me a better idea of maybe how much lengthening my muscles and nerves can achieve. There is a theory that the lengthening amount depends on starting height. The taller you are to start with the more your muscles and nerves can lengthen/stretch without major issues. Apparently.

Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: lolwhyamidoingthis on September 03, 2020, 01:02:07 PM
Whats up Midguy :D

I will be removing my femur fixators in about 4 weeks and i am wondering how long after fixator removal surgery you could walk with crutches normally? Also, the 8.1cm number you got, was that from an xray measurement? There seems to be cases where x-ray machines are not properly calibrated and therefore may not be totally accurate. However, if your posture still isn't totally normal, that could very well be the reason you are "missing" 1 cm.

Hope you are doing good man! Congratulations with being done with the hardest part :D
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: more on September 04, 2020, 09:41:13 AM
how is your walk?
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: MidGuy on September 04, 2020, 07:06:19 PM
Whats up Midguy :D

I will be removing my femur fixators in about 4 weeks and i am wondering how long after fixator removal surgery you could walk with crutches normally? Also, the 8.1cm number you got, was that from an xray measurement? There seems to be cases where x-ray machines are not properly calibrated and therefore may not be totally accurate. However, if your posture still isn't totally normal, that could very well be the reason you are "missing" 1 cm.

Hope you are doing good man! Congratulations with being done with the hardest part :D

Thanks man, I hope you also doing well. My doc said after 40-50 days from operaton i can walk with  crutches. It is two weeks now I walk with walker but I can notice healing each new day.
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: MidGuy on December 14, 2020, 06:52:12 PM
Update:
I can walk without crutches for two months. My walking gets better each day. I go for long walks. No pain, nothing. But my muscles are very weak, It affects my walk it is slightly noticeable other than that I have no effect of LL surgery. I am not sure which exercises should I do to heal completely but I dont care actually bcs It will get better eventually. I lenghtened 8cm in total from my femurs. I dont think I will come to this forum anymore. So, It was my diary.
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: 1683131665 on December 18, 2020, 03:27:18 PM
Mehmet Kocaoglu seems to be a great Turkish doctor. To be honest I was shocked at how many doctors in Turkey were engaged in cosmetic bone lengthening. There are many medical intermediaries in China about Turkey. But many of them have gone wrong. Including nerve damage and so on.Could you please tell me the price of Mehmet Kocaoglu? Does he accept foreigners? I didn't find his offer on the website.THX
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: Jamesy998 on December 29, 2020, 08:28:47 AM
Hi Midguy,
just got my femur lon done and I am on my 6th day. Is it normal that I feel no pain in my left leg but my right leg is much less bending while more painful? There is also a sort of a clicking sound every now and again. Also I have yet to start lengthening but my ROM is horrible, will this stop me from lengthening alot?
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: Siegfried on December 29, 2020, 11:11:11 AM
Good luck, will be getting my surgery soon as well! May i ask where you are from?
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: mq66x on August 25, 2022, 01:24:57 PM
who is you doctor?
Title: Re: LON femur surgery in Istanbul.
Post by: balme on August 25, 2022, 05:06:44 PM
what a bull  guy, probably was a marketing tool anyway.