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Title: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: spartacusforhimself on June 16, 2020, 10:40:50 PM
Hi Everybody
I made the decision to face this path and in these days I will explain the motivations (emotional, logical after years of reflection) that pushed me.
I have already taken a home for the next two months.
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: dreamBig on June 17, 2020, 12:19:29 AM
Good luck bro! Rooting for you.
Would be another good diary for Dr. Giotikas.
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: RB on June 17, 2020, 12:22:22 AM
All the best man!

Excited to see your journey. I am planning surgery with Dr G next year so will be great to hear your experience.
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: spartacusforhimself on June 18, 2020, 10:05:02 PM
Thanks a lot dream big
thanks a lot Rb137
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: Tartar on June 18, 2020, 11:14:55 PM
Good luck! I hope the best for your surgery
Let us know every news  8)
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: Silzz on June 19, 2020, 02:47:00 AM
Good luck man. Let us know how it goes!  8)
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: spartacusforhimself on June 19, 2020, 08:11:58 PM
15 June 1 week before the surgery .

A little about me.

 I am a 32 year old young man. I am tall 1.63 1.64 .

 I have always wanted to do it since I was 21 years old but energy, money and practical impossibility of doing it had occurred.
Stryde speeded things up and teased me (possibility of reconciling with work from the computer).
Even the quarantine actually with the coronavirus has pushed me to think maybe in these three months July August and September nobody will miss me and I can continue to do my work from the computer.

The problem is that I had too many doubts
After talking to dr. Pili there were some things that didn't convince me especially about fat embolism the fact that someone don't drill several holes to prevent fat embolism.
I asked myself I read books on how to deal with difficult situations. And I wondered “for the next 19 years you feel that you will solve this problem e.g.
Not putting on shoes with heels or anything? No” . guys sure I would have continued to wear high-heeled shoes with an internal heel and to tell the truth I already feel low with high-heeled shoes let alone without. Sure I would have thought about it but i cannot anymore face this with that solution.

The fact is that when you study or work it is normal that you do not think about it you are in an inner phase but when you make social life with the other beach walk or something else it seems a continuous anxiety as if they will continually look at your shoes and discover that something is wrong.

I didn't see myself walking barefoot or running with a friend many times.
I wanted to face my historical insecurity. Will this be the right way? . When you leave, let alone that I see the slope of the sidewalk and I saw which part was higher (usually the right) to put me there.
I had to do something.
I think that regardless of everything my external image does not correspond to the internal image I have of myself.

I tried with upper body mass gym well but I walk curved with shoes with heels. I felt the suffering of some girls that in a moment the magic vanished. even if we remember women are being emotional for some it matters for others not.


One thing that impressed me was in a wedding 1 year ago. Although I had put on shoes with a 5 cm heel (and not the 7 or 8 one) I was the lowest ever of 150 people. All the girls or gentlemen were taller. I think who is 1.63 or 1.64 falls within the percentage where 99% is higher. Even if in that event I was trying to be at my home and being subdued I promised myself that I would never use shoes with an internal 5 cm low heel again..
I spent a week at home. .

6cm or 7 would be enough even if my goal is 7 or 8cm.
came the
Time to face the moment and on Tuesday giotikas will intervene.
How did I prepare for the operation?
I have been trying to stay in shape by leaving bodybuilding alone and focusing on cardio and running and stretching the last month. I thought that in case of bone fracture a certain degree of fat will be released into the blood and I thought it important to have good circulation and breathing (compete with you for what could have been done 1 month before)

Some thoughts on concerns and how I solved them:

1. Fat embolism- speaking with Giotikas confirmed to me that it is very rare. He told me 1 in 2000 can happen. HE said to me that the statistics we have available have been compiled by a part of the population that is older which is more exposed or by road accidents in which we do not immediately intervene. With the special technique and for aesthetic reasons there are no statistics in this regard and it is considered much rarer.1 out of 2000 falls into the following cases

2. Blood cots fortunately we can move right away, but to avoid this complication he confirmed that he is also running Stryde blood tiner for two weeks and also practices so-called decompression

3. Poor healing is seen every two weeks and said that if there is little bone callus with stryde or you stop for a few days and you monitor or you can even go back and you can hardly get to the non Union

4. Sciatic nerve is not touched and has confirmed to me that it is the doctor's negligence and he supports the alignment well

5. Pain management? Well I hope in medicines even if dr giotikas informed me that already getting used to stretching I help my head to get used to that burning sensation not to interpret it as pain
TIME IS coming
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: spartacusforhimself on June 19, 2020, 08:21:35 PM
Thoughts on 18 June -  4 days before the operation
 here it is in my original state today is Thursday and tomorrow Friday I will take flights to go to Greece to spend Saturday and Sunday. on  Monday scheduled for anesthetist and then Tuesday operation.

1.considerations we try to project ourselves into the future when this 3 months have passed and we will try to walk "normal". One wonders what the operation will be like what it means to walk how painful it will be, if we are crazy to do this but was there really a need? One doubts oneself and everything. But then we think of social anxieties about that sense of inadequacy. It will be like a blink of an eye and then being able to say "is the best decision I have made"?
My leg are walking they are doing their function how will be for them if i put my effort at max?

2. Things that took place today. Today the suitcase was packed for three months. Lots of clothes bought to play sports shorts, T-shirts and shoes. One wonders what it will be like to walk on crutches. If you put stryde that bears 75 kg and I weigh 68, is it better not to put the backpack between your shoulders? It is believed that you will not be able to hold anything in your hands when you are on crutches. Tickets are printed and you can see what to do in two days in Athens. 3. Mental state mood excited and hopefully the operation will take place quickly in the blink of an eye and then quickly to practice without any complications.
Best regard


I arrive today in Athene I organized my self in a house on airbnb near the
physotherapy center ( by telling the truth not so near is 800 metres how i will moove with crutches or wheelchair? I will need a taxy everytime?) . Overall the sansation is mixing of anxiety and relaxing.
HAve good evening all of you
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: Arcon on June 19, 2020, 08:59:47 PM
Congratulations and good luck. Everything will be fine. Hopefully I will be where you are in a year from now. keep us posted.
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: Cpl2012 on June 19, 2020, 11:15:44 PM
Congrat and good luck bro!! Do you need to quarantine when you first come there?
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: spartacusforhimself on June 20, 2020, 10:24:34 AM
Cpl2012
Yes the first day i had to stay at home.
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: ghkid2019 on June 20, 2020, 06:08:47 PM
Hope operation goes well. You made some very obviously sensible points about why you want to do this operation. It's about time, better get it done now, or never
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: uclqlic on June 21, 2020, 01:34:14 PM
good luck with your surgery bro. Hoping to see your update soon.
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: Cpl2012 on June 21, 2020, 09:08:11 PM
Hi Bro, i pm you. Could i have some questions?
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: spartacusforhimself on June 22, 2020, 09:02:41 PM
Cpl yes tell me
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: k1erz on June 23, 2020, 10:07:14 PM
Hi Spartacus.

Good luck on your journey bro.

I'm very interested in reading about it as I'm seriously considering receiving this surgery from Giotikas too.

Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: spartacusforhimself on June 25, 2020, 04:44:47 PM
Guys good evening
These are already 48 hours after the operation. I describe how they went
Surgery day
You don't understand what is going on, you only feel that they put the anesthesia mask on and then you find yourself in the recovery room and then be transported to your room.
You are on paracetamol and tramal drugs (the former for muscle pain, the latter for nerve pain). But in what sense do you feel little pain ? In truth it is as if you have got very cold in the legs or if you have played a football match and the pain if you don’t move is costante to 3-4 because they are not moving. While if they move, because of the wounds that stiffen all the muscle. So to you, like when a person plays football has an injury and does not want to put his foot on the ground, he would simply stand still and wait for it to pass. But they actually put you to work on the same day

Range of motion
I can only raise one leg at a time while lying down and I can bend them almost to 95 degrees it is necessary that they are folded to 90 in order to climb the stairs but they are very rigid.
They put me to work and I took a few steps with the Walker. In truth if with the left (strange because I have had it weaker ) I can fully support my weight with the right leg there is some ligament or discomfort at the level of the knee and it only allows me to be with the right leg tiptoed . Then I step left leg with the sole of the foot resting and right leg on tiptoe.

Recurring thoughts and focus
recurrent thinking is for me guys to pee in that kind of funnel. Since one cannot get up it is very difficult and unfortunately one has a full stomach of liquid and if one does not pee one cannot relax.
So how can you pee not from top to down but in horizontal way :)

Second day
At night I felt as if some leg muscles were waking up pain on 4 And the evening before I had a little fever at 37:30 and in the morning while 36. I think it has a big impact on our body.
Today I did the same steps with physiotherapists with the right toe and left with the entire sole of the foot were 4-5.
I think that we cannot going back and given that you cannot walk on you own you need assistant to do everything beacuse the legs are a sort of immobiliZe .
Today however I have a small improvements beacuse if is in the first day I cannot stand up to pee today I decide to stand in my foot and try to do it form the tolto the bottom .
Sorry for this arguments but I think is some thing that one should
Know
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: Silzz on June 29, 2020, 02:12:25 AM
Congrats on the first step man. Update us on how the "pee" thing going  ;D
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: spartacusforhimself on July 05, 2020, 09:33:22 AM

Day June 27th is the 4th day
Progress :
I go to the bathroom alone with the Walker and I made my first 20 steps with crutches both in the morning and in the afternoon
The physiotherapist tells me that I will soon be able to jump from the parachute
Right leg when i walk and i put in the floor the  inflammation and pain decreased .

June  29 6 sixth day
I slept very well last night and I don't know why I woke up without those micromovements that hurt. It seems that now I could well put the sole of my foot on the ground and everything.
I did stretch and then
I took 30-40 steps with Walker. I went to toilet alone and washed my clothes myself

Then I took 30 steps with crutches but this time fully supporting my weight and not relying so much on the arms


30 june 7 days operation

I wake up at 6 i did 20 steps with  Crutches
Breakfast and I go back to bed
7 days have passed another 7 and the worst they say will end
Up to now the pain from 1 to 10 has been maximum 4 when I got up for a few micro movements but overall around 3

Day 1-2 July 8 days
They discharged me from the hospital. I had no problems going with a wheelchair to the taxy. Arrived by car with crutches I got up and sat behind. A Giotilas assistant and even hospital nurses helped me with suitcases and everything.
When I got home I hired a person provided by giotikas who is with me 24/7. I asked to go shopping and cook.
This day ended tired and I slept well all 8 hours

Day 2 July 8 days
I had to work but tramal took effect and I didn't wake up before 10 am then I worked until 13. From 13 to 16 I slept at 16:30 until 19:00 I worked with computers.
What is it like to work? Well you can be careful to pass all tramal effect first.
I practiced from 7 to 8 something like 80 steps with crutches going and returning from the corridor and kitchen tired but happy.
They told me that after 8 days they never saw anyone walking on crutches.
At night I go to bed but I wake up at 5 o'clock, light pain and tingling like when one does a gym. I take toradol and sleep
Fortunately for me I can tell you that the pain has never risen above 4 and with tramal and ... it is manageable we hope that it will also be so for the future
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: jem_semarc on July 05, 2020, 10:10:47 AM
Nice one dude! It seems like the pain isn’t that bad for you. Others describe the pain as the worst during the first 3 weeks, so if you can ride this out then things will be good for you.
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: spartacusforhimself on July 05, 2020, 12:54:07 PM
Yes so far is manageable the pain. But As I understand it will be like a rainbow of colors when it comes to pain so new shapes will appear when reaching 3 cm and 5 cm
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: dreamBig on July 05, 2020, 02:52:38 PM
Wonderful! spartacus. I am really glad that pain level is low for you, and you are already walking! From other CLLers's diaries, the pain is a big factor affecting sleep and physical therapy. You will be doing great.  BTW, I have one question, not sure if I read it correctly, did you get discharged from hospital on the 8th day? I thought their website mentioned up to 4 days in hospital after surgery.
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: spartacusforhimself on July 05, 2020, 06:38:21 PM
Yes dreambig. I decide to stay 3 more days on hospital because pay the nurses at home or pay 1 day more in clinic had the same price ... and also in hospital
I had physiotherapy. After with doctor we decide however to leave the hospital and go to my house 
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: T_bone on July 05, 2020, 06:41:13 PM
Yes dreambig. I decide to stay 3 more days on hospital because pay the nurses at home or pay 1 day more in clinic had the same price ... and also in hospital
I had physiotherapy. After with doctor we decide however to leave the hospital and go to my house

Spartacus that seems like a great decision on your part. I'm glad you're recovery has been progressing so well. Can I ask, how was your flexibility prior to surgery?
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: dreamBig on July 05, 2020, 07:14:53 PM
Yes dreambig. I decide to stay 3 more days on hospital because pay the nurses at home or pay 1 day more in clinic had the same price ... and also in hospital
I had physiotherapy. After with doctor we decide however to leave the hospital and go to my house

Wow! Good to know it. Great decision. I would commend Dr. G for the accommodation of extra days in the hospital, that will definitely make the transition easier for the first week. With PT, active walking and pain under control, bro, you will have a much smoother way to reach 8cm!
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: k1erz on July 05, 2020, 11:26:01 PM
Great updates Spartacus.

I’m feeling really positive for your diary and will be following closely. I hope you provide us with regular updates.

I’m thinking of going with Giotikas next year and would love to know more about how you’ve felt about his and his team’s competence.

I’d also like to know how you’ve felt about the support you’ve received post surgery.
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: m7liam on July 06, 2020, 03:15:26 PM
I’m in Greece! Just pinged you
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: asian on July 12, 2020, 03:05:39 AM
Hi Spartacus, how much did you pay for extra days in the hospital?
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: spartacusforhimself on July 15, 2020, 06:18:50 PM
HiAsian I paid 200 euro
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: dreamBig on July 16, 2020, 02:56:29 AM
Hi Spartacus, any update? Hope everything is going well with you.
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: more on July 16, 2020, 08:48:38 PM
Another diary without Xray or legs picture
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: Bala on July 17, 2020, 10:39:32 PM
Another diary without Xray or legs picture

All these Giotika's stryde diaries are so suspicious. All stories, no pictures, nothing at all.  This is quite unlike most diaries we see here, I urge everyone to remain skeptical
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: k1erz on July 17, 2020, 11:51:35 PM
All these Giotika's stryde diaries are so suspicious. All stories, no pictures, nothing at all.  This is quite unlike most diaries we see here, I urge everyone to remain skeptical

I agree.

I should also mention my experience of contacting Giotika sent alarm bells ringing.

I called the telephone number on his UK clinic website https://www.giotikasorthopaedics.co.uk/ which was answered by a lady with very poor English. She gave me his mobile number which I then called and began to discuss CLL. I noticed on the website that the location of the hospital is named as Woodlands surgery however Giotikas said it would actually be performed in Brighton. He then told me to email any questions I have but I've not yet received a response.

Judging by the way these Giotikas diary entries read it appears that either the same person is writing them or people whose limited grasp of English is so similar that they're from the same place. Be very skeptical guys.

If you were starting out a clinic that offers this type of cosmetic surgery, given the amount of money involved, fabricating a diary on an unregulated forum is something you might consider.

If this is indeed true it reflects poorly on the surgeon himself.

I was initially going to go with Giotikas for convenience and price however I'm starting to feel it would be a huge mistake.

Paley all the way guys.
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: more on July 19, 2020, 10:38:22 AM
I agree.

I should also mention my experience of contacting Giotika sent alarm bells ringing.

I called the telephone number on his UK clinic website https://www.giotikasorthopaedics.co.uk/ which was answered by a lady with very poor English. She gave me his mobile number which I then called and began to discuss CLL. I noticed on the website that the location of the hospital is named as Woodlands surgery however Giotikas said it would actually be performed in Brighton. He then told me to email any questions I have but I've not yet received a response.

Judging by the way these Giotikas diary entries read it appears that either the same person is writing them or people whose limited grasp of English is so similar that they're from the same place. Be very skeptical guys.

If you were starting out a clinic that offers this type of cosmetic surgery, given the amount of money involved, fabricating a diary on an unregulated forum is something you might consider.

If this is indeed true it reflects poorly on the surgeon himself.

I was initially going to go with Giotikas for convenience and price however I'm starting to feel it would be a huge mistake.

Paley all the way guys.
Good decision
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: Gman23 on July 19, 2020, 05:47:25 PM
Great diary, hope your well. How much did the surgery cost you and how much did you  lengthen? Please reply thank you
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: more on July 19, 2020, 06:03:21 PM


Dear Gman23 . You already know the cost and everything. Go and see Your own posts and comments
You arleady have 3 Threads in ' Limb lengthening patients experience about cost and all with dr.Giotikas . one thread is removed already .
You are popping up dr.Giotikas diary . F### man this forum is full of fake patients
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: Hennessy17 on July 25, 2020, 07:57:58 PM
All these Giotika's stryde diaries are so suspicious. All stories, no pictures, nothing at all.  This is quite unlike most diaries we see here, I urge everyone to remain skeptical

I agree 100%. Will just save more and stick with the trusted US doctors.
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: Bala on July 25, 2020, 08:27:52 PM

Dear Gman23 . You already know the cost and everything. Go and see Your own posts and comments
You arleady have 3 Threads in ' Limb lengthening patients experience about cost and all with dr.Giotikas . one thread is removed already .
You are popping up dr.Giotikas diary . F### man this forum is full of fake patients

Clever of you to spot this users pattern. This is sad to see given Giotikas was looking like a viable option for people in Europe. I'll advise everyone to stick with more detailed surgeons.
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: azman on July 27, 2020, 10:18:51 PM

Dear Gman23 . You already know the cost and everything. Go and see Your own posts and comments
You arleady have 3 Threads in ' Limb lengthening patients experience about cost and all with dr.Giotikas . one thread is removed already .
You are popping up dr.Giotikas diary . F### man this forum is full of fake patients

@ Dr. X-ray Know it All more, you did an awesome job doing your homework research on Meck.  Now do your research and show us the facts that Dr. G dairies are fake before you run your mouth.  It is a disservice to the members on this forum if you load it with false information and allegations.  X-ray this and X-ray that.  Don’t go silent on me, like you did before, when I asked you to prove it with facts.

@ spartacusforhimself when I was lengthening, Dr.G has warn me of the influence and the  psychological impact it has on a person from this forum, so my suggestion is to focus on your lengthening and not post any updates. I myself just kept a journal of my journey. At this phase you don’t need the negativity of some people on this forum.  Best of luck brother!!!
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: seriouslyinjured on July 27, 2020, 11:46:10 PM
azman diary is not fake, when i came from turkey to greece after being butchered by ozgar, i met azman in thesus rehab clinic in athens when he was at the beginning of his journey, we became good friends. i was in athens from november 7th all the way till march fixing my complications, i hung out with azman until he finished his lenghtening journey and he returned home. for those of you who havent read my posts i have posted my xrays and mainly talked about the bad experience and my court case in turkey and my recovery in athens.  there are alot of good choices of doctors out there especially in the US who have the most experience. there are also alot of bad doctors out there to so do your research before you make decisions to find which doctor is best for your pricing , who is the most  experienced in which method of lenghtening in the type you are looking for and with a good safety record. since i was in athens 7 months i had met alot of giotikas patients through thesus rehab and at follow up appointments at Mediterranean hospital. well thats my 2 cents worth if that helps clear up any doubts about giotikas diaries. i can say this giotikas does have a big flow of patients coming through and doesnt need to do any advertising, anyway he is humble and caring of his patients and does put safety first, safety first in my eyes is the most important after going through hell in turkey and a intense nightmare of a recovery.
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: more on July 28, 2020, 07:14:30 AM
damege control has been started.
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: more on July 28, 2020, 07:21:23 AM
@ Dr. X-ray Know it All more, you did an awesome job doing your homework research on Meck.  Now do your research and show us the facts that Dr. G dairies are fake before you run your mouth.  It is a disservice to the members on this forum if you load it with false information and allegations.  X-ray this and X-ray that.  Don’t go silent on me, like you did before, when I asked you to prove it with facts.

@ spartacusforhimself when I was lengthening, Dr.G has warn me of the influence and the  psychological impact it has on a person from this forum, so my suggestion is to focus on your lengthening and not post any updates. I myself just kept a journal of my journey. At this phase you don’t need the negativity of some people on this forum.  Best of luck brother!!!

okay . Lets talk about you my friend Azman.
how much did you get? You didn't mention how much did you get. (Lengthen)
please read your own diary instead to following me everywhere in this forum.
If you provide scan and your time period i can do a better job on you than Meck.
my wishes are with @seriouslyinjured he will recover soon
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: azman on July 28, 2020, 07:41:00 AM
damege control has been started.

Haha look at who’s talking like an advertiser now.
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: azman on July 28, 2020, 07:42:57 AM
okay . Lets talk about you my friend Azman.
how much did you get? You didn't mention how much did you get. (Lengthen)
please read your own diary instead to following me everywhere in this forum.
If you provide scan and your time period i can do a better job on you than Meck.
my wishes are with @seriouslyinjured he will recover soon

Sounds like you got nothing.  Where the facts?  Using your words, where the logic, Logicboi?
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: more on July 28, 2020, 09:08:00 AM
Sounds like you got nothing.  Where the facts?  Using your words, where the logic, Logicboi?
This is the most childish reply I get ever from You.
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: Polvorón on July 28, 2020, 03:53:11 PM
Please, let us read this user diary, we already know that some people don't trust Giotika's patient reviews, but I want to read them, not replies about "there are not x-rays", "this is fake", "i don't trust this", ect.
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: a on July 28, 2020, 04:08:48 PM
More,

I've been trying to be nothing but nice to everyone. But could you please piss off with this attitude?
Please don't ruin the civilization. You don't seem to be someone stupid. So please act mature.

Best Regards
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: more on July 28, 2020, 04:30:35 PM
A
unnecessary , i will not post anything , but if someone is fooling us , I will comments in his diary , This forum is open for all , If a patient can write whatever he want and can mislead to other potential LLrs , I can go to his level and will write accordingly ,
there are 100s of diary  and 1000s of topics in this forum , i am not everywhere in this forum ,
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: azman on July 28, 2020, 05:57:20 PM
A
unnecessary , i will not post anything , but if someone is fooling us , I will comments in his diary , This forum is open for all , If a patient can write whatever he want and can mislead to other potential LLrs , I can go to his level and will write accordingly ,
there are 100s of diary  and 1000s of topics in this forum , i am not everywhere in this forum ,

@Dr. X-ray Know it All more, you should really listen to other members on this forum or at least listen to your own words unless you can’t understand yourself.  Mislead, yes some dairies are misleading and falsified.  Ain’t you misleading if you run your mouth without knowing the facts or having the facts to back it up.  Sound childish to me.  Your words, Where the logic to that. Logicboi.

You have made yourself sound stupid and dumb many of times on this forum and I have proven that with facts.  Should I do that again Mr. Once a upon of Time. 🤣😂🤣
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: more on July 28, 2020, 06:35:10 PM
@Dr. X-ray Know it All more, you should really listen to other members on this forum or at least listen to your own words unless you can’t understand yourself.  Mislead, yes some dairies are misleading and falsified.  Ain’t you misleading if you run your mouth without knowing the facts or having the facts to back it up.  Sound childish to me.  Your words, Where the logic to that. Logicboi.

You have made yourself sound stupid and dumb many of times on this forum and I have proven that with facts.  Should I do that again Mr. Once a upon of Time. 🤣😂🤣
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: azman on July 28, 2020, 06:48:42 PM
Polvolon wants to read this diary , better we will argue in once upon a time topic
sorry Polvolon i disturbed you..

Argue??? Who arguing, just stating the FACTS.  See how I did that, did it to you again.  Stop making it so easy. 

Oh also at least get the member’s name correctly, it’s with an “r” not two “l”. Such a DAB. mole or more, 🤣
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: more on July 28, 2020, 06:58:35 PM
Argue??? Who arguing, just stating the FACTS.  See how I did that, did it to you again.  Stop making it so easy. 

Oh also at least get the member’s name correctly, it’s with an “r” not two “l”. Such a DAB. mole or more, 🤣

Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: azman on July 28, 2020, 07:07:21 PM
unnecessary laughing does't make you ... Brother Azman , facts i know better than you do.
lets talk about limb lengthening  , I will show you what is limb lengthening and its meaning .

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 ok mole 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

Your words, “Where the X-ray, your X-rays”. What you have no X-rays, you are a fake? See how stupid and dumb you sound. 

But wait there’s  moreeeeeee, you don’t have any X-ray cause your never did CLL.  Limb lengthening and it’s meaning without the actual experience.  Where the logic, logicboi? 🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

Ok one last one 🤣 just for you “mole”
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: more on July 28, 2020, 07:20:42 PM
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 ok mole 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

Your words, “Where the X-ray, your X-rays”. What you have no X-rays, you are a fake? See how stupid and dumb you sound. 

But wait there’s  moreeeeeee, you don’t have any X-ray cause your never did CLL.  Limb lengthening and it’s meaning without the actual experience.  Where the logic, logicboi? 🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

Ok one last one 🤣 just for you “mole”


Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: azman on July 28, 2020, 07:36:13 PM
Your laughing smileys make you dumb not me , I really don't want comments unnecessary here , But this guy really ...

There a difference of being laughed at and laughing with someone, let's see if you are smart enough to figure out which one this is.

You claimed you know more, "facts i know better than you do"

I am happy and glad that you do, if that's a FACT.  Prove it or explain this.

Your words "after 40 dont do 2nd surgery"

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=65283.msg176218#msg176218

Now that's proving something with FACTS and made you looks stupid again again and again.  Should I prove it to you the you know better than I.   
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: azman on July 28, 2020, 07:47:57 PM
« Last Edit: Today at 07:34:49 PM by more »

Hey mole,

Why you edited / deleted your own replies.  Man you are dumb or is it stupid, for making yourself look bad on this forum.  You do know that you can't delete it completely since I quoted you with my reply, the little box with your words, reply.

Making yourself look dumb and stupid.  Since my job is done, I'll let you go untill you run your mouth again.  Be nice to other members on this forum and I'll be nice to you. 

Oh, don't start crying again.
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: more on July 28, 2020, 08:14:28 PM
I edited purposely , To show your stupid comments,
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: azman on July 28, 2020, 08:19:24 PM
I edited purposely , To show your stupid comments,

Good job!!!  But I don't think that was the reason behind it.

You claimed you know more, "facts i know better than you do"

I am happy and glad that you do, if that's a FACT. Prove it or explain this.

Your words "after 40 dont do 2nd surgery"

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=65283.msg176218#msg176218

Now that's proving something with FACTS and made you looks stupid again again and again.  Should I prove it to you the you know better than I.   
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: more on July 28, 2020, 08:27:00 PM
« Last Edit: Today at 07:34:49 PM by more »

Hey mole,

Why you edited / deleted your own replies.  Man you are dumb or is it stupid, for making yourself look bad on this forum.  You do know that you can't delete it completely since I quoted you with my reply, the little box with your words, reply.

Making yourself look dumb and stupid.  Since my job is done, I'll let you go untill you run your mouth again.  Be nice to other members on this forum and I'll be nice to you. 

Oh, don't start crying again.

Listen   , i  will keep posting , You can use bad words for me but this is not a solution using bad words.
There is no answer from Your side just saying something and something .,
I was trying not to post unnecessary
fk i will keep posting now ,

i asked a question in  Your diary,  Bloody liar, Go there and answers , This is my attitude , And now i really dont care if somebody getting hurt or not ,
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: more on July 28, 2020, 08:29:09 PM
Good job!!!  But I don't think that was the reason behind it.

You claimed you know more, "facts i know better than you do"

I am happy and glad that you do, if that's a FACT. Prove it or explain this.

Your words "after 40 dont do 2nd surgery"

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=65283.msg176218#msg176218

Now that's proving something with FACTS and made you looks stupid again again and again.  Should I prove it to you the you know better than I.
Sure i will prove it and explain it , i am not like you who run away from real question
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: more on July 28, 2020, 08:45:24 PM
After my post , Marathon  recently exposed  The best Asian dr Lee
You can say stupid , Dumb , whatever You want , i really dont care ,
I will keep asking hard questions , thats it ,
Now i will not post  in this diary anymore until new update
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: azman on July 28, 2020, 09:43:55 PM
After my post , Marathon  recently exposed  The best Asian dr Lee
You can say stupid , Dumb , whatever You want , i really dont care ,
I will keep asking hard questions , thats it ,
Now i will not post  in this diary anymore until new update

Huh what?  Man its really getting harder to understand you, the words that coming out of your mouth. 

Is this your why of proving it?  Not good.
"Sure i will prove it and explain it , i am not like you who run away from real question" 
What questions are unreal?

Ok I'll wait for your reply and proof, on your topic - Mr. Once a upon of time.  Don't go silent on me.

I think we're both here for the similar reasons but it's just done differently, so take a minute or two and learn from this.
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: more on July 29, 2020, 05:57:49 PM
Good job!!!  But I don't think that was the reason behind it.

You claimed you know more, "facts i know better than you do"

I am happy and glad that you do, if that's a FACT. Prove it or explain this.

Your words "after 40 dont do 2nd surgery"

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=65283.msg176218#msg176218

Now that's proving something with FACTS and made you looks stupid again again and again.  Should I prove it to you the you know better than I.

This article is from well known media agency , Most of our body organs starts deteriorates at 40s
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1035037/Old-time-When-body-really-starts-going-downhill.html?ito=native_share_article-masthead
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: azman on July 29, 2020, 06:46:01 PM
After my post , Marathon  recently exposed  The best Asian dr Lee
You can say stupid , Dumb , whatever You want , i really dont care ,
I will keep asking hard questions , thats it ,
Now i will not post  in this diary anymore until new update

This article is from well known media agency , Most of our body organs starts deteriorates at 40s
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1035037/Old-time-When-body-really-starts-going-downhill.html?ito=native_share_article-masthead

@more
That’s a good read but so GENERAL, I was expecting more from you and not some Media article.  The key word is MOST plus in that article there’s NOTHING about CLL which has general  speculative correlation to CLL. .  Therefore it’s DOES NOT = “after 40 don’t do 2nd surgery”  Look up some medical journals maybe you can prove your statement that way. Or PM Dr. A or any well known CLL surgeon to back up your statement.  Never the least good try.

Oh there’s a old saying, “A man is only as good as his Word”. I’ll wait for your reply on your tread “Once a upon of time” so you can tell me a fairy tale.


Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: spartacusforhimself on August 16, 2020, 09:05:24 AM
For the X-ray you are right ..
unfortunately in my computer I have no hardware to read CDs and I would like to see them again for myself .
However I can tell you that every 15 days I see the doctor and I will inform you about calous formation here below.



Diary July 10 -17 days of operation 12 of lengthening

Pain is always constant 2-3 ,3-4.

 What changes compared to the first week?
In the first, micro movements such as turning the leg or putting the foot on the ground feel pain like an electric shock and immediately stop.
Now while much more moves can be made.

I went for the first visit with Giotikas no callus formation.

He says that it is normal for the first two weeks the callus does not form even if it is already visible a little because it forms at the 4th or 5th week and my x-rays are like everyone else's.

Some reflections


Why and when to do this?

Personally in the sphere of my career, financial life etc I have reached some margins of success. I bought a house, one in cash and the other with leverage, I earned some money. And therefore the last step for personal development was precisely and I felt this operation.
After I think nothing can stop us.

Here in Greece I met a 20-year-old boy who had an operation and I wondered can a simple student ever take money from his parents not to do a master's degree or a small apartment but to pay for this operation? Could it be that economic independence and financial success are in second place for this person?

The truth is none of this. Quite the contrary, my boy thinks of doing this first and then dealing with other areas of life such as career or work. Choice that maybe we too will have made as students


What did I do today?

I went to physiotherapy from 9 to 11 I went home, I was tired because I had not slept well last night and I slept 2 hours.

At 4 I started working at 7 I stopped and at 9 this Greek friend of mine came, we ate, we got ready and I went out since it was Friday well after 17 days of operation.


I went out for the first time at just 17 days on crutches at 11:00 in the evening: we went to different clubs to approach girls the story we were making up or that I was a famous footballer or that I was a formula one driver or I did parachute. Even here in Greece is full of beautiful girls :)


July 23 1 month after surgery and 25 distraction

Nerve pain knee and foot heel which made me sleep 5 hours

I went to an international event on Friday with the o people and then I went to the disco also I followed them.

How is it going to the clubs?

Well I came back at 6 in the morning once I entered I left my crutches under a table and in the crowd I walked in my Frankenstein way.
 I also danced for 30 minutes with a girl to whom I told that I was a professional player


For the X-rays the first meeting 15 days after the operation there was no callus formation

In the second meeting while the formation was there and already the bony and light callus was attached to the two ends of the bone. It was excellent for a boy over 30 so I can continue with 1mm distraction.

As soon as I can post X-ray I will publish them


Ache

The doctor asked me to tell the truth to make you understand I pain is 1-2 and when I don't move it is non-existent. With tramal and apotel painkillers it is possible to limit,
 When while i walkmi feel pain in the points where the nail was inserted or on some part of the muscle near the butt.
Only when i walk.
Howevere when i am resting i not feel the pain o disturb.
 To give you an example, I went to the gym after 1 month and a half I trained my lats and biceps.

after a month of non-training they hurt. At night the biceps hurt a lot more in the following days than the legs.


July 30, 37 after surgery and 32 distraction

I have been feeling like inflammation for two days and when I lean my left leg to walk the pressure of the weight hurts the neck of the femur and I feel like I am limping.

 I talked to the physiotherapist and he says that in a few days he will get better.
The rainbow of annoyances

This night also, since I had slept in the afternoon, I felt a sharp pain always at the height of where the nail was placed in the upper part of the femur.
It seems that when I'm tired and sleepy I don't feel the pain as much. But if I have slept and lie in bed for more than two hours I feel a sharp, bearable pain where the nail was inserted



7 August 45 days
40day of distraction
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I reached 4 cm is the hardest psychological period.
We have reached the halfway point and we can't see the time to finish. You are tired of walking like a frankeist, and you are afraid if in the future you no longer walk well or if the recovery is not right as it should.

Fortunately I have prepared for this operation. I know you will walk well after 30 or 20 days after the distraction and we need to suspend judgment altogether and focus on the present and do our best.

Here I made friends with 5 other people who do limb lenghtening from all parts of Europe Germany Italy Spain. It is a good reason to encourage us

10 August 48 after operation 43 distraction

Today I had pain at night exactly where the osteotomy or ring was inserted and I took a tramal before going to sleep and then at 5 o'clock. These doses are those recommended by the doctor even if I wanted to limit myself to one a day. I saw this German guy, in fact, he says he doesn't use it anymore. In any case, I slept fine after these pills.

I got up at 8 am prepared and went to do physiotherapy.

- no pain. However, if you are not tired and simply rest in bed for more than 1 hour, you may feel stinging in the upper thigh.

- as I walk. At 4 cm I feel pulled when I put all the muscles of the legs in an upright position. My walk is improving. It's let's say 50% frankestain and 50% natural we hope to improve this week. Not even 2 months have passed yet.

- psychological aspect. I try not to judge neither the result nor the recovery of functionality. During this time, an anxious person may worry if the walk will not be natural or if the 4 cm is too short.
 I have postponed any judgment to 3 months after the operation, now I'm in it

- work. I am in August and it has decreased a lot but apart from the morning I do physiotherapy you could work 3 or 4 hours a day in the afternoon or evening. Although I met a Chinese guy who also works at night for the change of hours already the first two weeks with pain and all. Let's imagine willpower

- diet weight. I weighed myself and weighed 58 kg compared to the initial 66. What is happening to me? It will be the medicines that quit the hunger I try
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: spartacusforhimself on August 16, 2020, 09:10:34 AM
this surgery is very private. We are spending very difficult moment in other state, new country, no family, . We cannot go to supermarket. Also small things are really difficult ( i cannot take someting that the weight is more of 8 kg). We are exausted and we are finding small time to write a diary. You are free to not read them at all especially mine . This forum really help me with the decision and i want help other with my genuine experience. So please dont polute the diary with your unreasonable criticism or suspicion that we dont need. We are a community and we need to move forward all toghter
thanks
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: spartacusforhimself on August 16, 2020, 09:11:54 AM
I am happy you did your decision
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: spartacusforhimself on August 16, 2020, 09:13:44 AM
Thanks Amazn
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: a on August 16, 2020, 11:05:20 AM
Did you just talk to yourself? LOL, don't forget to switch your alt account next time.
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: spartacusforhimself on August 16, 2020, 11:53:04 AM
guys how can i load video? can you explain me? Thanks
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: spartacusforhimself on August 16, 2020, 11:55:01 AM
Did you just talk to yourself? LOL, don't forget to switch your alt account next time.

I know you are Turkish and you sponsored your doctors several times in different posts.
Here is different. Here is only jenuine experience from a patience. Also tab or whatsoever is the genuine writing in the phone. Thanks
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: spartacusforhimself on August 16, 2020, 12:08:45 PM
All these Giotika's stryde diaries are so suspicious. All stories, no pictures, nothing at all.  This is quite unlike most diaries we see here, I urge everyone to remain skeptical
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why don't you ask me some more information, pictures or xray or whatever in order to be your statment based on fact? Maybe you don't want see the realty or fact ... it looks that for some unkown reason you had already prejudice.
Title: Re: Surgery Greece stryde femur 23 june
Post by: spartacusforhimself on August 16, 2020, 12:11:50 PM
why don't you ask me some more information, pictures or xray or whatever in order to be your statment based on fact? Maybe you don't want see the realty or fact ... it looks that for some unkown reason you had already prejudice.