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Title: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: .. on September 23, 2020, 08:05:03 PM
Lately I see some people here undermine an inch.

I am aware that no height is ever fully enough until we are 6'2".

If you ask women how tall would their ideal men be, they mostly would say 6'-6'3".

But when I asked them the minimum acceptable height, almost unanimously they all said "as long as not shorter than me".

So now we've established that at the the very basic level, we have to be at least same height as women for our height not to give us an unnecessary challenge, more than that, it becomes more supplementary rather than a necessity.

Thus, it'd be interesting to know how our heights compare to girls' height

I used this calculator (https://tall.life/height-percentile-calculator-age-country/) to compare to average height of Scandinavian girls which is 167cm/5.5.75".

5'5" - 40.1 Percentile

| 14.2% jump

5'6" - 54.3 Percentile

| 13.6% jump

5'7" - 67.9 Percentile

| 11.5% jump

5'8" - 79.4 Percentile

| 8.7% jump

5'9" - 88.1 Percentile

Summary

The biggest jumps we have here are from 5'5" to 5'6" and 5'6" to 5'7".

So from 5'5" to 5'6" basically takes you from below average girl's height to slightly above average. From taller than only 40% of girls to taller than 54% of girls. That's 14% of the female population. Honestly, I don't know how many millions people we're looking at here.

From 5'6" to 5'7". We still have a high jump of 13.6%, only slightly less than the previous one. Thus makes it a crucial inch.

From 5'7" to 5'8".  The jump has decreased by 2% to 11.5%.  But it's still a lot of people and at 5'8" you are taller than 80% of women. Thus makes it less crucial than the previous 2", but still great to have it if possible.

From 5'8" to 5'9". The jump has decreased even more by 2.8% to only 8.7%. An even less crucial jump, but would still be great to have because you'd be taller than 88% of women at this height.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: ghkid2019 on September 23, 2020, 08:46:51 PM
Ye but "ell ess jay ell" the founder or propaganda spreader basically only got an inch. And this man spent 10 years writing random shít on it lol, thousands of articles. On average he reported other users got 0.5cm to 1cm.

"Ell ess jay ell" prolly bull . If the founder/obssessed guy, the lord almighty, only got an inch and basically dedicate his entire life to doing this shít, I suppose thís is "faaake haaa geii".

But yeah one inch does matter especially when u are just at the cusp of the limbo between short and average. But if "ell ess jay ell" has yet to be proven
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: ZUCC420 on September 23, 2020, 09:47:53 PM
I can't bother to try this "experimental LSJL" for 2 whole years (which Bruce said the alleged time for 1 inch) that doesn't even have a guarantee to work or not.

And besides how can it be possible to grow taller if your growth plates are gone?

The whole mechanism that underlies LSJL seems baloney to me. Can anyone explain how it works in a clearcut fashion?
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: a on September 23, 2020, 10:25:47 PM
Don't misunderstand me but you can spend your time working on ankle weights and LSJL method instead of wasting your time on the forums. Then you might convince us with your own report.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: .. on September 23, 2020, 10:44:10 PM
Don't misunderstand me but you can spend your time working on ankle weights and LSJL method instead of wasting your time on the forums. Then you might convince us with your own report.

Dude you have been so annoying. I have no business convincing you. First, this thread doesn't have anything to do with LSJL. Do you see I mention LSJL in the OP? Second, if I get taller by LSJL, you will have to pay for my report.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: a on September 23, 2020, 11:07:11 PM
Dude you have been so annoying. I have no business convincing you. First, this thread doesn't have anything to do with LSJL. Do you see I mention LSJL in the OP? Second, if I get taller by LSJL, you will have to pay for my report.

I'd love to pay for it, I hope it becomes a real thing though. You'll be taller, you are as obsessed as I am and I do feel your pain even though I'm slightly under average-doesn't matter. I hope it helps you in the future. I wish you the best. I hope one day you actually get taller with the method and flex on me, I really do lmao. I'm not being sarcastic.

Good luck fam.

edit: I was one of the people who'd underesimate 1 inch, but I underesimate it physically (like adding an inch to anyone's height wouldn't even make a visible change). Yeah, after the statistics now I realised it's actually important.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: BelowTheMean on September 24, 2020, 02:21:41 AM
Lately I see some people here undermine an inch.

I am aware that no height is ever fully enough until we are 6'2".

If you ask women how tall would their ideal men be, they mostly would say 6'-6'3".

But when I asked them the minimum acceptable height, almost unanimously they all said "as long as not shorter than me".

So now we've established that at the the very basic level, we have to be at least same height as women for our height not to give us an unnecessary challenge, more than that, it becomes more supplementary rather than a necessity.

Thus, it'd be interesting to know how our heights compare to girls' height

I used this calculator (https://tall.life/height-percentile-calculator-age-country/) to compare to average height of Scandinavian girls which is 167cm/5.5.75".

5'5" - 40.1 Percentile

| 14.2% jump

5'6" - 54.3 Percentile

| 13.6% jump

5'7" - 67.9 Percentile

| 11.5% jump

5'8" - 79.4 Percentile

| 8.7% jump

5'9" - 88.1 Percentile

Summary

The biggest jumps we have here are from 5'5" to 5'6" and 5'6" to 5'7".

So from 5'5" to 5'6" basically takes you from below average girl's height to slightly above average. From taller than only 40% of girls to taller than 54% of girls. That's 14% of the female population. Honestly, I don't know how many millions people we're looking at here.

From 5'6" to 5'7". We still have a high jump of 13.6%, only slightly less than the previous one. Thus makes it a crucial inch.

From 5'7" to 5'8".  The jump has decreased by 2% to 11.5%.  But it's still a lot of people and at 5'8" you are taller than 80% of women. Thus makes it less crucial than the previous 2", but still great to have it if possible.

From 5'8" to 5'9". The jump has decreased even more by 2.8% to only 8.7%. An even less crucial jump, but would still be great to have because you'd be taller than 88% of women at this height.

Add 3 inches for heels and that's why they want us to be 6'+
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: HobbesTheDog on November 14, 2020, 07:32:04 PM
I'm guessing in the US, this is equivalent to 5'3 to 5'6?
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: . on November 14, 2020, 07:36:19 PM
I'm guessing in the US, this is equivalent to 5'3 to 5'6?

No, this 5'5" to 5'8" theory applies pretty much in any Western country.

In the US, it's the Asian/Latina/Black women who drag the women average down.

However, man, the average I got from Wikipedia might not be as accurate or updated. In the Scandinavian countries, the real women average for the younger generation could be more like 5'7"-5'8". Because I talked to some French women recently, it seems that the average there is already 5'6.5" or so.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: Arrogance on November 17, 2020, 10:27:20 PM
So much for women. But if the statistics are true then it's pretty cool. It is a nice motivation for people who lenghten regardless of how much  :)
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: . on November 17, 2020, 11:20:34 PM
So much for women. But if the statistics are true then it's pretty cool. It is a nice motivation for people who lenghten regardless of how much  :)

The statistics are conservative, could be worse in reality (meaning the actual average might be higher). But the point will remain the same, that every inch around that height makes a great difference.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: Alexa on November 18, 2020, 05:32:01 PM
But aren’t there other reasons why men want to lengthen their legs besides getting more women though? You are sad if that’s all you care about
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: . on November 18, 2020, 05:59:01 PM
But aren’t there other reasons why men want to lengthen their legs besides getting more women though? You are sad if that’s all you care about

Perhaps you could suggest some other reasons?
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: Skyisthelimit on November 18, 2020, 06:42:22 PM
- Feel better about themselves
- To stop feeling less around tall people
- Stop feeling like height is holding you from anything
- Stop being looked down at
- To start being seen as man and be taken seriously
- Boost confidence which improves personality
I’m sure there are even more reasons than this. Personally, I’m already in a 3 year relationship and my motivation to get taller is definitely NOT to get women.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: . on November 18, 2020, 11:10:49 PM
- Feel better about themselves
- To stop feeling less around tall people
- Stop feeling like height is holding you from anything
- Stop being looked down at
- To start being seen as man and be taken seriously
- Boost confidence which improves personality
I’m sure there are even more reasons than this. Personally, I’m already in a 3 year relationship and my motivation to get taller is definitely NOT to get women.

There aren't many reasons to do this. All the things you mention are basically just one thing which you described with different words.

Basically, LL just makes you look better (to women and other men). So the only 2 real reasons to get LL are just to be more attractive to women and respected by other men.

All the things you mention are just the byproducts of those 2 basic reasons.

The fact that you're in relationship doesn't change anything. You can be in a relationship and aren't seeing other women but you can still have the innate desire to be seen as attractive by other women in general or as in your own words, "being seen as a man".
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: Arrogance on November 19, 2020, 10:22:11 PM
- To start being seen as man and be taken seriously
Man this one I can relate to so much. People keep calling me ''kid''. Now it's one thing when a boomer says it but a fking 12 year old girl called me kid wtf? Even my mom said I am a kid physically and mentally. Women see nothing except looks I swear
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: deletedaccount on November 19, 2020, 10:42:06 PM
Perhaps you could suggest some other reasons?
1. To cure my socially crippling body dysmorphic disorder
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: Body Builder on November 19, 2020, 11:14:31 PM
There aren't many reasons to do this. All the things you mention are basically just one thing which you described with different words.

Basically, LL just makes you look better (to women and other men). So the only 2 real reasons to get LL are just to be more attractive to women and respected by other men.

All the things you mention are just the byproducts of those 2 basic reasons.

The fact that you're in relationship doesn't change anything. You can be in a relationship and aren't seeing other women but you can still have the innate desire to be seen as attractive by other women in general or as in your own words, "being seen as a man".
I have to agree. LL is mainly for becoming more attractive and then feel better with yourself.
Only a fool would do LL to be more dominant to other men.
At my (average) height and with my muscles I don't really feel intimidated from men at any height but still I feel weird next to taller than me girls or even at about the same height as me, no matter if they wear heels.
If somehow the average height of women was 5.2, I would feel perfect with my height even if average men's height stayed the same.

So LL is a cosmetic surgery and most of all has to do with being attractive.
And not being short is the most important for a woman in a man's appearance.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: . on November 20, 2020, 12:24:21 AM
1. To cure my socially crippling body dysmorphic disorder

Euh, no. Here's the definition of BDD that I took from a quick Google search:

Quote
Body dysmorphic disorder is a mental health disorder in which you can't stop thinking about one or more perceived defects or flaws in your appearance — a flaw that appears minor or can't be seen by others.

So in your case, you are a 5'6" man and think that you are short and feel bad about it, you don't have actual BDD. Your negative perception of yourself is justified and aligned with the reality since you are, in fact, short. You aren't imagining things and others will also see you as a short man.

But when a 5'11" man feels short, now he indeed has BDD in which case what he needs is not LL, but mental help.

In short, LL is not a cure to mental disorder.

Only a fool would do LL to be more dominant to other men.

Actually, that would be the only other reason to do LL besides women. You do LL to look better to other people and people are either men or women. You won't be that much dominant though (a true physically dominant men would be Jason Momoa or The Rock's sizes and heights which are not achievable via LL), but definitely respected more by them. As long as you don't get into an actual fight with them in which case, you will be more likely to lose (thank to LL).
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: Kal el on November 20, 2020, 10:23:29 AM
All bull  aside checkout nicole kidman(180cm) in front of jason momoa(193) although he says he is 6'5....and to be honest in that same frame both of them pretty much look the same....height wise and nearly same arm length....except momoas arm being very muscular....in real life people dont care much about height if you are not like very short and they care more about the width for men....coz i have seen middle schoolars 6'1 above but they in no way looks manly in front 5'9 bearded decently thick guys....so there you go if long bones is the only thing you care about then i am sorry to say but u lack some vision....everything aside for the shorter folks just try for being average and nearly average folks aim for 6ft thts more then enough to change your life in many ways....and most importantly try to be a bit thick coz most thts more important if u wanna give a manly vibe....btw the scene i was talking abt momoa and nicole is from aquaman....when they both first meet near the sea shore.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: Body Builder on November 20, 2020, 11:26:21 AM
Euh, no. Here's the definition of BDD that I took from a quick Google search:

So in your case, you are a 5'6" man and think that you are short and feel bad about it, you don't have actual BDD. Your negative perception of yourself is justified and aligned with the reality since you are, in fact, short. You aren't imagining things and others will also see you as a short man.

But when a 5'11" man feels short, now he indeed has BDD in which case what he needs is not LL, but mental help.

In short, LL is not a cure to mental disorder.

Actually, that would be the only other reason to do LL besides women. You do LL to look better to other people and people are either men or women. You won't be that much dominant though (a true physically dominant men would be Jason Momoa or The Rock's sizes and heights which are not achievable via LL), but definitely respected more by them. As long as you don't get into an actual fight with them in which case, you will be more likely to lose (thank to LL).
My fault.
I wanted to say that it is stupid to do LL mostly for being dominant to other men without looking good to women.
A man that has the acceptance of women feels and is a dominant one more than a tall skinny jerk or a massive bber that women hate.

Being domimant to other men is not that hard if you have an about average height (even at 5.7) some muscles and a manly face.
But being attractive to women is not easy without a decent height.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: NotSoBigBadBruin on November 20, 2020, 11:52:16 AM
Being domimant to other men is not that hard if you have an about average height (even at 5.7) some muscles and a manly face.
But being attractive to women is not easy without a decent height.

I think it’s the other way round:

Being attractive to women is not that hard if you have a handsome face, a decent body, and are of average height (or slightly below).

But being dominant to other men is not that easy without a decent height.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: Kal el on November 20, 2020, 12:19:25 PM
Bodybuilder and notsobigbadbruin....i think both of u are wrong and right to some extent....coz a below avg. Height and a handsome manly face and a decent body is enough to be dominant to both man and woman....a living example is tom cruise i mean that guy is just big in good at whatever he does....he is charismatic even when he is angry....he is definately short at 5'7 but he fought 6'1 big buff superman in a movie and if u have seen MI7 i would say he was holding pretty much good during the last fight sequence....yeah i know its a movie but come on we get our ideas from movies only..ppl judge other ppl by seeing movies only(especially girls)....and tom cruise gets called dominant by woman like paula patton and his wife nicole kidman,katie holmes....so yeah height is definitely a boon but there are other ways to be mature and dominant....but to fit in big L size clothes you do need a taller or bigger torso aka height😅..and another short dominant guy is James macavoy same height as tom.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: . on November 20, 2020, 12:43:30 PM
Being domimant to other men is not that hard if you have an about average height (even at 5.7) some muscles and a manly face.

The only problem is, any taller guy can also gain some muscles and have a manly face easily.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: F_99 on November 20, 2020, 01:23:39 PM
I think it’s the other way round:

Being attractive to women is not that hard if you have a handsome face, a decent body, and are of average height (or slightly below).

But being dominant to other men is not that easy without a decent height.

Correct.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: Skyisthelimit on November 20, 2020, 04:05:33 PM
So the only 2 real reasons to get LL are just to be more attractive to women and respected by other men.

The fact that you're in relationship doesn't change anything. You can be in a relationship and aren't seeing other women but you can still have the innate desire to be seen as attractive by other women in general or as in your own words, "being seen as a man".

These were just some examples that came to the top of my head. Yeah, most of the ones I came up with are in fact partitions of the two reasons you mentioned, but there is also the reason of doing this for yourself. This particular reason has nothing to do with women or men. In my personal experience, I always dress up to feel good about myself, and I don’t care if a girl or a guy tells me I look bad, I’ll still believe I look great. Just because your self esteem pivots around other people’s opinions, doesn’t mean you should be portraying that personal insecurity as everyone else’s. Keep your s*** to yourself and don’t establish your two reasons (for getting CLl) on concrete as the only ones.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: Skyisthelimit on November 20, 2020, 04:24:51 PM
I have to agree. LL is mainly for becoming more attractive and then feel better with yourself.
Only a fool would do LL to be more dominant to other men.
At my (average) height and with my muscles I don't really feel intimidated from men at any height.
What are you even saying, my dude. Go stand next to Francis Ngannou, Curtis Blaydes or Jairzinho Rozenstruik and I’ll be impressed if you can keep your panties from falling. Short bodybuilders don’t really make anyone feel intimidated. People just think that they are getting huge to compensate for their height, at least that’s my case. But being near trees like Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson or guys like him, well... that’s a different story. You just know they can smack the life out of you.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: Body Builder on November 20, 2020, 04:43:24 PM
Bodybuilder and notsobigbadbruin....i think both of u are wrong and right to some extent....coz a below avg. Height and a handsome manly face and a decent body is enough to be dominant to both man and woman....a living example is tom cruise i mean that guy is just big in good at whatever he does....he is charismatic even when he is angry....he is definately short at 5'7 but he fought 6'1 big buff superman in a movie and if u have seen MI7 i would say he was holding pretty much good during the last fight sequence....yeah i know its a movie but come on we get our ideas from movies only..ppl judge other ppl by seeing movies only(especially girls)....and tom cruise gets called dominant by woman like paula patton and his wife nicole kidman,katie holmes....so yeah height is definitely a boon but there are other ways to be mature and dominant....but to fit in big L size clothes you do need a taller or bigger torso aka height😅..and another short dominant guy is James macavoy same height as tom.
I wear XL and my torso is of a 5.7 man.
Most t shirts are still slim for me and some a little long (not much) but I don't care.
So a short man can wear L and XL. I am one.

Also, Cruise is not a domimant man physically. He is handsome and most women liked him but not what a dominant man looks.
But I really never cared about being dominant. Most men call me big dude and they praise my body (although I am not even close to a heavily juiced bb) but although it feels good, I would prefer to be a moderate guy to other men but more women feel attracted by being small next to me, as most of them want.
And it is a pity that although I am almost 50% wider than most of women, I am about the same height with most of them if they were high heels.

So really being dominant is not so important I believe.
And trust me, even if you are 5.6, if you get roids and work out as a beast most men will feel intimidated even much taller ones.
But still, most women won'r even care.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: Body Builder on November 20, 2020, 04:47:50 PM
What are you even saying, my dude. Go stand next to Francis Ngannou, Curtis Blaydes or Jairzinho Rozenstruik and I’ll be impressed if you can keep your panties from falling. Short bodybuilders don’t really make anyone feel intimidated. People just think that they are getting huge to compensate for their height, at least that’s my case. But being near trees like Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson or guys like him, well... that’s a different story. You just know they can smack the life out of you.
These men are almost 1 to a million.
So the possibilities is that I won't stand next to  dudes like them or I would a very few times in my life.
I am talking about everyday life.
And see men like Dexter Jackson or Kai Greene (5.6 and 5.75) next to an everyday man and you would see how a short bb could look huge and intimidating.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: Skyisthelimit on November 20, 2020, 05:34:04 PM
In that case, we would almost never be standing next to someone like Dexter Jackson. But just for the fun... who would rather do a stare off with, Ronnie Coleman or Dexter Jackson. In this case you can see why height does in fact make someone more intimidating. These were two bb competing around the same division, but still Ronnie dwarfs Dexter, even though he himself is not that tall.

https://imgshare.io/image/ff941a38-0941-4daf-b337-3606d8fc080b.NJmZay
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: NotSoBigBadBruin on November 20, 2020, 07:28:58 PM
Also, Cruise is not a domimant man physically. He is handsome and most women liked him but not what a dominant man looks.

I agree (because that’s what I meant in my previous post). Guys like Tom Cruise, Neymar Jr., or Lenny Kravitz are considered attractive by the majority of women despite being slightly below average height, but they wouldn’t be perceived as (physically) dominant by most tall men even if they weighed 200 pounds.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: Body Builder on November 20, 2020, 09:40:34 PM
In that case, we would almost never be standing next to someone like Dexter Jackson. But just for the fun... who would rather do a stare off with, Ronnie Coleman or Dexter Jackson. In this case you can see why height does in fact make someone more intimidating. These were two bb competing around the same division, but still Ronnie dwarfs Dexter, even though he himself is not that tall.

https://imgshare.io/image/ff941a38-0941-4daf-b337-3606d8fc080b.NJmZay
Being tall and muscular is of course more intimidating than being short and muscular.
I just said that if you only want to be domimant to men being very muscular is enough so there is no need to do LL unless you are maybe less than even 5.5. But you need to work out very much and take roids which is very risky.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: Body Builder on November 20, 2020, 09:44:19 PM
I agree (because that’s what I meant in my previous post). Guys like Tom Cruise, Neymar Jr., or Lenny Kravitz are considered attractive by the majority of women despite being slightly below average height, but they wouldn’t be perceived as (physically) dominant by most tall men even if they weighed 200 pounds.
All these are not dominant due to their appearance, not their height.
Jay Cutler or even Stallone (not a bber and just 5.8) look dominamt though and they have the same heights.
Davud Beckam is very handsome and tall. Still don't look dominant.
Being dominamt looking and good looking is comoletely different and it doesn't have to do mainly with height, unless you are very short where you can't be neither.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: ZUCC420 on November 20, 2020, 10:22:30 PM
All these are not dominant due to their appearance, not their height.
Jay Cutler or even Stallone (not a bber and just 5.8) look dominamt though and they have the same heights.
Davud Beckam is very handsome and tall. Still don't look dominant.
Being dominamt looking and good looking is comoletely different and it doesn't have to do mainly with height, unless you are very short where you can't be neither.

You need certain facial characteristic features such as a thick brow ridge, small sharp eyes and a robust skull including the whole chiseled jaw in order to be perceived as dominant and threatening as a man also superficial traits such as black hair/eyebrows help too since the color is considered to be masculine.

(https://en.24smi.org/public/media/celebrity/2019/03/28/zambcrusfwrl-dominic-purcell.jpg)

Dominic Purcell comes to mind.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: Body Builder on November 20, 2020, 11:37:48 PM
You need certain facial characteristic features such as a thick brow ridge, small sharp eyes and a robust skull including the whole chiseled jaw in order to be perceived as dominant and threatening as a man also superficial traits such as black hair/eyebrows help too since the color is considered to be masculine.

(https://en.24smi.org/public/media/celebrity/2019/03/28/zambcrusfwrl-dominic-purcell.jpg)

Dominic Purcell comes to mind.
I agree.
But if that man was 60kg or 1.60cm would have still been a joke.
So you neer a combination of things. Some facial traits like the ones you mentioned, a not short height and some muscles are the most important.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: . on November 20, 2020, 11:46:44 PM
but there is also the reason of doing this for yourself.

There really isn't or at least not in the way you might think. Someone who truly does it for themselves would also do LL if they were the only human in the world which you won't. This surgery puts people's lives and health at stake, has serious long-term consequences and hampers your athletic mobility permanently. Why would any fool does this for themselves? lol

In my personal experience, I always dress up to feel good about myself, and I don’t care if a girl or a guy tells me I look bad, I’ll still believe I look great.

Because in terms of height, you feel good about yourself being tall because you know that tall is seen as attractive by society/other people.

But in the end it's true that we are all doing it for ourselves, in the sense that someone who thinks that they are doing LL to get more women is not actually doing it for women but for themselves. Because when they get more women, they are the one who'll benefit from it.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: ZUCC420 on November 21, 2020, 01:22:46 AM
There really isn't or at least not in the way you might think. Someone who truly does it for themselves would also do LL if they were the only human in the world which you won't. This surgery puts people's lives and health at stake, has serious long-term consequences and hampers your athletic mobility permanently. Why would any fool does this for themselves? lol

Because in terms of height, you feel good about yourself being tall because you know that tall is seen as attractive by society/other people.

But in the end it's true that we are all doing it for ourselves, in the sense that someone who thinks that they are doing LL to get more women is not actually doing it for women but for themselves. Because when they get more women, they are the one who'll benefit from it.

you eat for yourself, you sleep for yourself, you sĥit for yourself...... but do you fućk for yourself?

Of course you do, you can tell yourself delusional narratives such as "I want to please her, I want to look good for her, make her cum, etc" but the only reason you do so and it may seem like going several steps further such as getting LL is ultimately for yourself as well, since you fućk for yourself in the end and if you had the conviction that you wouldn't be able to fućk someone or be incapable of having any of your expectations met postsurgery you wouldn't do it in the first place to begin with.

Human nature is cynical by design, since by being so it proliferated our species leaving us with these pesky, frowned upon through modern ethical lens primordial instincts that ultimately defies freewill and the sooner you accept it the better your life will be.

Also there isn't anything mystical such as "love" or "romantic love" since it doesn't exist, male and female relationship dynamic is mutually exploitative where the male sėxually objectifies the female and the female financially objectifies the male.

Your intimate significant other, including your wife and your children's mother is a literal whore. Just felt like dropping some blackpills here since this site is filled with bluepillers. (Not directed at "you" Bruce but general "you")

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S0F1DC1D9c
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: . on November 21, 2020, 03:56:22 AM
male and female relationship dynamic is mutually exploitative where the male sėxually objectifies the female and the female financially objectifies the male.

Yeah, this is a common occurrence in many marriages and so called "relationships".

But there is also pure sxxual relationship where the female sxxually objectifies the male too, which is what we all should be going for anyway.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: NotSoBigBadBruin on November 21, 2020, 11:11:27 AM
Also there isn't anything mystical such as "love" or "romantic love" since it doesn't exist, male and female relationship dynamic is mutually exploitative where the male sėxually objectifies the female and the female financially objectifies the male.

I’m glad my wife was making much more money than me when we met, because I guess this means she wasn’t only after my money. 🤷🏼‍♂️
But seriously, you really need to put down those philosophy books and start dating. Some guys here on this forum pretend to know all about women and relationships although it sounds like they have no experience with women at all or have only been in very toxic relationships.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: Kal el on November 21, 2020, 12:32:46 PM
I am sorry to say....thts where height is needed😅....as well as good looks.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: ZUCC420 on November 21, 2020, 03:24:01 PM
But there is also pure sxxual relationship where the female sxxually objectifies the male too, which is what we all should be going for anyway.

Sure, when you're Chad incarnate. But if you are less than the top 10 percentile in smv with respects to her social circle, good luck hoping to get sxxually objectified by women. And btw even if you're Chad incarnate don't expect to be loved by a woman for your personhood since the whole crux of the matter is women wanting to replicate Chad's genes not finally seeing what a "good" person he is and why she should stay with him through thick and thin, which is ultimately a product of evolution.

Dare I say only a man has the capacity to love someone for their personhood since the way they perceive the world is static, cause otherwise how could you've build things? Create great civilizations? Women on the other hand can't because of their subjective reality that's ever changing, when a woman says she loves you she really does mean that but 5 months down the line when she falls out of love that's also a fact for her whether you care to accept it or not.

Their inherent solipsism and subjective reality precludes the possibility of them ever loving someone for their personhood, which is hypothesized as a result of of being subjected to traumatic events namely your male partner being taken away from you by other warring tribes and then begrudgingly joining them lead ultimately to them lacking loyalty the way a man has, which is also a product of evolution.

In the end Chad fuĉks beta bucks in a nutshell.

I’m glad my wife was making much more money than me when we met, because I guess this means she wasn’t only after my money.

Is that the case even now? How about 10 years later into the relationship? I mean if you're married and she's making making more than you than you're going to be divorced soon pal based on the statistics and probability I'm afraid.

But seriously, you really need to put down those philosophy books and start dating. Some guys here on this forum pretend to know all about women and relationships although it sounds like they have no experience with women at all or have only been in very toxic relationships.

We got more than enough men expressing these facts as anecdotal evidence and empirical evidence regarding dating from dating sites/apps and also traditional psychological simulations of dating which also corresponds to evolutionary biology/psychology and anthropology across the millennium concerning human beings.

So no need to go on dismissing entire fields of sciences in pursuit of maintaining your feel good delusions when 100 years of data is available at the click of your finger tips, that's if you have the intellectual integrity to explore the facts yourself.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: NotSoBigBadBruin on November 21, 2020, 05:03:54 PM
Sure, when you're Chad incarnate. But if you are less than the top 10 percentile in smv with respects to her social circle, good luck hoping to get sxxually objectified by women. And btw even if you're Chad incarnate don't expect to be loved by a woman for your personhood since the whole crux of the matter is women wanting to replicate Chad's genes not finally seeing what a "good" person he is and why she should stay with him through thick and thin, which is ultimately a product of evolution.

Dare I say only a man has the capacity to love someone for their personhood since the way they perceive the world is static, cause otherwise how could you've build things? Create great civilizations? Women on the other hand can't because of their subjective reality that's ever changing, when a woman says she loves you she really does mean that but 5 months down the line when she falls out of love that's also a fact for her whether you care to accept it or not.

Their inherent solipsism and subjective reality precludes the possibility of them ever loving someone for their personhood, which is hypothesized as a result of of being subjected to traumatic events namely your male partner being taken away from you by other warring tribes and then begrudgingly joining them lead ultimately to them lacking loyalty the way a man has, which is also a product of evolution.

In the end Chad fuĉks beta bucks in a nutshell.

Is that the case even now? How about 10 years later into the relationship? I mean if you're married and she's making making more than you than you're going to be divorced soon pal based on the statistics and probability I'm afraid.

We got more than enough men expressing these facts as anecdotal evidence and empirical evidence regarding dating from dating sites/apps and also traditional psychological simulations of dating which also corresponds to evolutionary biology/psychology and anthropology across the millennium concerning human beings.

So no need to go on dismissing entire fields of sciences in pursuit of maintaining your feel good delusions when 100 years of data is available at the click of your finger tips, that's if you have the intellectual integrity to explore the facts yourself.

I’m the one making more these days, but that’s something she couldn’t have known back then. I must be a real Chad, then.

So you base all your decisions on probabilities and empirical data?

“Do you wanna get married?”
“Nah, there’s a 50 percent chance it’s going to end in a divorce.”

“We’re having a party down at the beach. Do you wanna come?”
“Nah, there’s a 60 percent chance of rain. I’m gonna stay home and read a book about how happiness is just an illusion.”

“Do you wanna go on a date with me?”
“Nah, I’m good. There’s only a 10 percent chance of us having sxx and/or becoming a couple.”

Sounds like a recipe for a very exciting life ...
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: . on November 21, 2020, 05:07:16 PM
And btw even if you're Chad incarnate don't expect to be loved by a woman for your personhood since the whole crux of the matter is women wanting to replicate Chad's genes not finally seeing what a "good" person he is and why she should stay with him through thick and thin, which is ultimately a product of evolution.

No no, I'm not talking about love. sxxual relationship is what its name indicates, it's all physical, doesn't have anything to do with personality, good or bad person is irrelevant. It's also not necessary for her to stay.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: ZUCC420 on November 21, 2020, 05:13:18 PM
I’m the one making more these days, but that’s something she couldn’t have known back then. I must be a real Chad, then.

Which further proves my whole point, and no you aren't a Chad just a betabucks.


So you base all your decisions on probabilities and empirical data?

“Do you wanna get married?”
“Nah, there’s a 50 percent chance it’s going to end in a divorce.”

“We’re having a party down at the beach. Do you wanna come?”
“Nah, there’s a 60 percent chance of rain. I’m gonna stay home and read a book about how happiness is just an illusion.”

“Do you wanna go on a date with me?”
“Nah, I’m good. There’s only a 10 percent chance of us having sxx and/or becoming a couple.”

Sounds like a recipe for a very exciting life ...

I prefer cold hard data versus feel goodism where you go in blindly in a minefield expecting to find a unicorn. Also the rest of the rhetoric doesn't address my arguments at all. I hope you realize that you're telling others to seek delusions like yourself instead of anything resembling reality.

No no, I'm not talking about love. sxxual relationship is what its name indicates, it's all physical, doesn't have anything to do with personality, good or bad person is irrelevant. It's also not necessary for her to stay.

Yap that's how a rational being should act like but inevitably you'll fall in love and that's when she'll ditch your ass when you have invested 100% into the relationship which is aptly referred to as the betaization process.

https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/4hpmg2/theory_the_betaization_process_stages_of_female/
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: NotSoBigBadBruin on November 21, 2020, 05:37:02 PM
If your key to happiness is to stay single your entire life and not take any risks whatsoever, chances are you’re going to miss out on many of the best things in life. But if that’s how you want to live your life, that’s perfectly fine. 👍🏻

(Just as a side note, there are also studies showing that people who enjoy taking risks are more content and satisfied with their lives.)
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: ZUCC420 on November 21, 2020, 06:11:31 PM
If your key to happiness is to stay single your entire life and not take any risks whatsoever, chances are you’re going to miss out on many of the best things in life. But if that’s how you want to live your life, that’s perfectly fine.

(Just as a side note, there are also studies showing that people who enjoy taking risks are more content and satisfied with their lives.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8byGFryWQRU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8byGFryWQRU)

Seems like you've ran out of gas hence didn't even bother to respond to any of my arguments, that's a smart move btw you should further keep on making such decisions in your life since it'll probably serve you much better than the current dominant model of "exciting" braindead delusional risk taking that's devoid of neurons being rubbed inside your head.

Also no need to defend and justify your own stupid marriage to us folks at leg lengthening sites, it seems to have served you so well that you've ended up right here with us, saving money in hopes to get your legs broken and lengthened, perhaps in order to save your own marriage?

You're no better than us who hadn't been married or been in a relationship likewise if you had to resort to such a fringe forum where people pay thousands of dollars to get their legs broken whilst staying infirm for months being confined to a hospital cot, counting their days.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: NotSoBigBadBruin on November 21, 2020, 07:32:08 PM
Believe it or not, but I have better things to do than read up on black pill theories developed by sxxually frustrated men. And I simply don’t care if you choose not to get laid and live a life in solitude. So why should I spend more time arguing with you?

The only reason I commented was that you were trying to provide insights into women and relationships when you clearly have little to no experience with relationships.

I could easily afford Paley’s 16 cm LL program and become a 196 cm Slander Man if I wanted to, but thanks for worrying about my finances.

And you can talk BS about my marriage and try to insult me all you want, it’s just making me feel sorry for you. My marriage is perfect, and I’m eternally grateful for having such an amazing woman in my life who loves me unconditionally. No keyboard warrior in the world is going to convince me otherwise. I’m also grateful for being able to lead a perfectly happy life despite my height dysphoria. I’m only considering this surgery to satisfy my own vanity and because I’d have ended up taller if I hadn’t suffered from hypogonadism in my late teens.

I know I’m not better than anyone here on this forum, and I’d never insult anyone the way you’re trying to insult me. By the way, smart people don’t have to include the result of some BS personality test in their signature and use a painting of Schopenhauer as their profile pic just to make sure everyone knows how smart they are.

So again, if you want to live a life in solitude, that’s totally fine. But don’t try to drag everyone on this forum down with your “life’s not worth living if you’re short, all relationships are doomed to fail anyway, etc.” BS.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: ZUCC420 on November 21, 2020, 07:46:26 PM
Believe it or not, but I have better things to do than read up on black pill theories developed by sxxually frustrated men. And I simply don’t care if you choose not to get laid and live a life in solitude. So why should I spend more time arguing with you?

The only reason I commented was that you were trying to provide insights into women and relationships when you clearly have little to no experience with relationships.

I could easily afford Paley’s 16 cm LL program and become a 196 cm Slander Man if I wanted to, but thanks for worrying about my finances.

And you can talk BS about my marriage and try to insult me all you want, it’s just making me feel sorry for you. My marriage is perfect, and I’m eternally grateful for having such an amazing woman in my life who loves me unconditionally. No keyboard warrior in the world is going to convince me otherwise. I’m also grateful for being able to lead a perfectly happy life despite my height dysphoria. I’m only considering this surgery to satisfy my own vanity and because I’d have ended up taller if I hadn’t suffered from hypogonadism in my late teens.

I know I’m not better than anyone here on this forum, and I’d never insult anyone the way you’re trying to insult me. By the way, smart people don’t have to include the result of some BS personality test in their signature and use a painting of Schopenhauer as their profile pic just to make sure everyone knows how smart they are.

So again, if you want to live a life in solitude, that’s totally fine. But don’t try to drag everyone on this forum down with your “life’s not worth living if you’re short, all relationships are doomed to fail anyway, etc.” BS.

Quite an emotional outburst you've proudly put on display here I must say, it's a rather predictable spectacle when it comes to discourse with your ilk. Thanks for finally showing your true colors, I won't bother further commenting anything else since I don't have anything to add to the conversation and besides people here can judge it themselves.

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Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: Skyisthelimit on November 21, 2020, 08:24:35 PM
I completely agree with NotSoBigBadBruin. Everyone here needs to chill down. Most of the members are here to look up info about doctors and check out our cll vets’ diaries, not to argue about these kind of bs. And dude (@Zucc420), don’t try to diminish other relationships just because of your personal experience. I’m 120% sure my girlfriend is not with me for any of the reasons you or @Batman mentioned.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: ZUCC420 on November 21, 2020, 08:37:19 PM
I’m 120% sure my girlfriend is not with me for any of the reasons you or @Batman mentioned.

Okay, though it's not like you could actually be capable of deciding that matter in a dispassionate lense and have an interpretation be anything other than the current one you hold  ....... so.

Or for that matter be able to internalize such knowledge without having a mental breakdown, cognitive dissonance and finally compartmentalizing facts or completely dismissing it based on "muh incel" "you incel wah".

I mean really which man would really be capable of holding the fact that his girlfriend or wife is only with him because of his money whilst being in a "loving" relationship? Makes sense based on evidence but does it really makes sense to the mind that's currently in a relationship?

They would rather kill themselves first rather than accept reality which is evident after a divorce when you take a look at the data. So Didn't think so.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: Skyisthelimit on November 21, 2020, 09:18:36 PM
I mean really which man would really be capable of holding the fact that his girlfriend or wife is only with him because of his money whilst being in a "loving" relationship? Makes sense based on evidence but does it really makes sense to the mind that's currently in a relationship?

They would rather kill themselves first rather than accept reality which is evident after a divorce when you take a look at the data. So Didn't think so.

Oh, but I can state as a fact that this is my case, lil buddy. I really doubt a woman who’s with someone for his money would be paying most of the things between the two. Of course this is for the time being, since currently I’m not working, but still holds true. Stop being such a tryhard, my dude. Don’t know why you’re trying to show off when you clearly know jack s***.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: Body Builder on November 21, 2020, 09:20:06 PM
Okay, though it's not like you could actually be capable of deciding that matter in a dispassionate lense and have an interpretation be anything other than the current one you hold  ....... so.

Or for that matter be able to internalize such knowledge without having a mental breakdown, cognitive dissonance and finally compartmentalizing facts or completely dismissing it based on "muh incel" "you incel wah".

I mean really which man would really be capable of holding the fact that his girlfriend or wife is only with him because of his money whilst being in a "loving" relationship? Makes sense based on evidence but does it really makes sense to the mind that's currently in a relationship?

They would rather kill themselves first rather than accept reality which is evident after a divorce when you take a look at the data. So Didn't think so.
I have an average income and my gf makes the same money as me.
In the past I was with women more rich than me and more poor.
Women that go to.someone for money are going for millionaires, not just a little richer than average man.
Also, these women are freakingly good looking and very rich men know exactly why they are with them and have them sd toys.

The biggest reason for a woman to be with a man at the begining is to be physically attracted to him, and the opposite.
Then character plays a big role if that relationship will continue.
Most women nowadays don't care much about money as they have their own, they want a good looking man that is just not poor.
And the ones that care try to be with millionaires.
So no, the vast majority of us (everyday men) who have relationships is not from the money we have.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: ZUCC420 on November 21, 2020, 09:34:57 PM
I have an average income and my gf makes the same money as me.
In the past I was with women more rich than me and more poor.
Women that go to.someone for money are going for millionaires, not just a little richer than average man.
Also, these women are freakingly good looking and very rich men know exactly why they are with them and have them sd toys.

The biggest reason for a woman to be with a man at the begining is to be physically attracted to him, and the opposite.
Then character plays a big role if that relationship will continue.
Most women nowadays don't care much about money as they have their own, they want a good looking man that is just not poor.
And the ones that care try to be with millionaires.
So no, the vast majority of us (everyday men) who have relationships is not from the money we have.

It isn't strictly about money and if I had given that impression then my bad, it's all about the male providing resources in exchange for sxx. This is evolutionary psychology 101 and not me and other bunch of inkels making shît up in our mother's basement.

There's a reason we're called a "tournament" species and not a "pair bonding" species in the scientific literature since there exists vast differences between the two species.

The endgame of a sxxual relationship for a woman is becoming the wife of her partner and freeloading for the rest of her life while providing sxx once a month after a few years of marriage which at last heralds the final phase leading to r/deadbedroom and that is the completion of a relationship after which divorce follows, whether you care to admit it or not based on your emotional inclinations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2K92_4xLCA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2K92_4xLCA) - This explains this better with visual data than I ever could.

That's all assuming it doesn't end abruptly in a divorce like 50% of marriages do in less than 5 years (based on statistic) by the 70% of women that are initiating it while the man pays the alimony lmao, and if not then your last bastion of hope is that your marriage falls under one of the 13% "non trivial percentage"! -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8byGFryWQRU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8byGFryWQRU)

Bottom line is you're more likely to survive a game of Russian roulette with only ONE EMPTY CHAMBER (17%) than you are to have a happy lasting marriage (13%) (Assuming self reported studies are true and those 13% aren't being delusional and lying like some people here in this obscure fringe surgery forum)

"But my wife makes more than me so stop lying incel" -https://www.forbes.com/sites/carolinehoward/2010/09/10/women-who-earn-more-more-likely-to-get-divorced/ (https://www.forbes.com/sites/carolinehoward/2010/09/10/women-who-earn-more-more-likely-to-get-divorced/)

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But career women who are the family breadwinners are nearly 40% more likely to get a divorce than women without the same economic resources, according to a 25-year study by Jay Teachman, a sociology professor at Western Washington University in Bellingham, Wash.

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Researchers found that the tipping point is when the wife pulled in at least 60% of the family's income.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJGdw20pNgQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJGdw20pNgQ) - Ultimately a relationship with a woman amounts to nothing but domestic parasitism, now whether you bluepilled utterly pitiful simps such as skylimit and bigbadbrain are going to accept the truth or not is up to you, just know when reality comes knocking...

You'd think that not even a single bluepill simp will exist in a forum that's all about enhancing your looks mainly to attract women and gain social status via a gruelling dangerous surgery yet dozens of them will crawl out of the woodworks slobbered with vaginal juices inside the glory hole they spent most of their lives in that's so far removed from reality that it can only be described as being a separate interdimensional vacuum.

I encourage people here that aren't complete and utter bluepilled simps starved of vagina to shame these people that keep on peddling this bullshît with cold hard impersonal facts in order to bring them back to reality otherwise they're going to spend their whole lives in lala land while not only ruining their own lives in the process which I have no problem with but they keep on dispensing foul, misleading advice and disinformation that isn't based in reality but instead the interdimensional vacuum called the glorified pussy hole that makes them feel tingles in their pepes, that are severely detrimental to the wellbeing of other men who are ignorant of the reproductive nature of men and women.

Like I have no problem with these people fking around in their own bubble but when they start peddling this shît to other hapless men notwithstanding the myriad of evidence to the contrary floating around the net, that's what makes my blood boil.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: BelowTheMean on November 22, 2020, 02:21:51 AM
@ZUCC420: I usually don't comment too much on these threads once people start posting YT videos with statistics, but I've actually thought about this a ton, and there is still a way to win the game of marriage today. It's not blue, red, or black pill. You just need to play the game much better than any woman can and exhibit more dark triad traits than she does. Winning the game for me is not necessarily about a long-lasting happy marriage or the trad-con life, though those are both potentially side-effects, it's mostly about procreating with someone with great genes to satisfy that biological need, and then living as a fully free man while maintaining leverage in the relationship.

In the past I've only dated hot girls or those with rich parents, I just haven't managed to find both of these traits in the same package yet, but I've gotten close. Part of the reason I'm getting LL is to improve my dating prospects with the cohort of girls that I'm targeting so I can hopefully find one who both has rich parents and is at least an 8 out of 10. I'm very experienced with this demographic having already dated half a dozen rich girls. None of them have any siblings and their parents easily had $10M+ USD net worth. I actually don't care about the girl's parents' money at all, I'm only interested in making sure she enters the marriage with enough net worth so I don't lose any money in the case of a divorce. (Rich parents almost always start transferring money to their kids early due to tax incentives.)

I have a specific set of skills and attributes that makes me very good at charming this type of girl and her parents. They usually view me as a suitable and reliable marriage partner for their daughter. I've never considered proposing to any of the ones I've dated, but each of them really wanted to get married with me (with parental approval as well) so I think it would have been easy to put a ring on any of them if I wanted to. Therefore, at my new height I should have a good shot at getting that 8 (which I'm fine with as long as she's rich enough.) As soon as we get married, I'll put a baby in her and then I win.

This is because once she is married, and especially once she has a kid, she has become used goods, aka undatable for high quality guys. If we were to ever get divorced (and especially as the years go by) I would always come out on top, so she has no incentive to ever get divorced. She can't nag me, treat me poorly, or anything like that, because I would be holding all the chips, up to and including threatening divorce. Because of this, I'll just keep doing whatever I want. Having a beer with the guys, she can't say anything. Buying stuff with my own money, she can't say anything. Plus on top of all that, it's super unlikely that she would cheat on me, since she has more to lose in a divorce, and even if she does cheat on me and we get divorced, I still win.

Go ahead, try and poke some holes in my plan. I welcome any challenges that you guys can think of.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: ZUCC420 on November 22, 2020, 03:01:19 AM
@ZUCC420: I usually don't comment too much on these threads once people start posting YT videos with statistics, but I've actually thought about this a ton, and there is still a way to win the game of marriage today. It's not blue, red, or black pill. You just need to play the game much better than any woman can and exhibit more dark triad traits than she does. Winning the game for me is not necessarily about a long-lasting happy marriage or the trad-con life, though those are both potentially side-effects, it's mostly about procreating with someone with great genes to satisfy that biological need, and then living as a fully free man while maintaining leverage in the relationship.

In the past I've only dated hot girls or those with rich parents, I just haven't managed to find both of these traits in the same package yet, but I've gotten close. Part of the reason I'm getting LL is to improve my dating prospects with the cohort of girls that I'm targeting so I can hopefully find one who both has rich parents and is at least an 8 out of 10. I'm very experienced with this demographic having already dated half a dozen rich girls. None of them have any siblings and their parents easily had $10M+ USD net worth. I actually don't care about the girl's parents' money at all, I'm only interested in making sure she enters the marriage with enough net worth so I don't lose any money in the case of a divorce. (Rich parents almost always start transferring money to their kids early due to tax incentives.)

I have a specific set of skills and attributes that makes me very good at charming this type of girl and her parents. They usually view me as a suitable and reliable marriage partner for their daughter. I've never considered proposing to any of the ones I've dated, but each of them really wanted to get married with me (with parental approval as well) so I think it would have been easy to put a ring on any of them if I wanted to. Therefore, at my new height I should have a good shot at getting that 8 (which I'm fine with as long as she's rich enough.) As soon as we get married, I'll put a baby in her and then I win.

This is because once she is married, and especially once she has a kid, she has become used goods, aka undatable for high quality guys. If we were to ever get divorced (and especially as the years go by) I would always come out on top, so she has no incentive to ever get divorced. She can't nag me, treat me poorly, or anything like that, because I would be holding all the chips, up to and including threatening divorce. Because of this, I'll just keep doing whatever I want. Having a beer with the guys, she can't say anything. Buying stuff with my own money, she can't say anything. Plus on top of all that, it's super unlikely that she would cheat on me, since she has more to lose in a divorce, and even if she does cheat on me and we get divorced, I still win.

Go ahead, try and poke some holes in my plan. I welcome any challenges that you guys can think of.

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This is because once she is married, and especially once she has a kid, she has become used goods, aka undateable for high quality guys.

You're making an assumption that she is logically consistent and also that she only wants to date high quality guys, remember the female's mind cannot perceive reality in a static fashion which means she's highly unlikely to make decisions that are good for her in the long run.

She might divorce you because the drug high that she experienced during pre-marriage ran out cause it's unlikely to last long by dint of the fact that it isn't reproductively speaking in her best interest to stick with one man and have his kids but by all means if you can manage it sure, go for it.

If it does run out and she still stays with you chances are she'll fall in a clinical depression which has been documented via studies done on dead bedroom marriages and thus will put on additional burden on top of all the stacked sĥit tests she'll keep feeding you even if you're a theoretical Chad.

Personally speaking I cannot abide by this mentally taxing sĥit tests that'll be thrust upon me by womankind in a relationship also not to mention the myriad of ways a woman in a relationship cannot satisfy a man for one their libido aka sxx drive being 1/10 of a man's, 2nd they only get as horny as men once a month before the ovulation cycle begins, 3rd I have no choice but to provide whatever she asks for using my money since 85% of consumer spending is accounted by women, etcetera.

It'll take me hours upon hours to write out a dissertation on why not being in a relationship with a woman is objectively better but instincts trumps reason as usual so as long as you understand the reproductive drives and sxxual dynamic between men and women you're already in a better place than 99% of men, especially compared to the bluepilled simps squirming around this entire forum, compartmentalizing while also undergoing barbaric gruelling surgery that requires an exorbitant sum of money whilst maintaining their delusionals at the same time.

So if you're 100% sure you won't get divorced rape, taken to the cleaners, etc and that she's unlikely to leave you then I don't see much of a problem other than the fact that you're making some assumptions that might not turn out to be true and could potentially result in a dead bedroom, who knows.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: BelowTheMean on November 22, 2020, 03:15:08 AM
Like I said, I don't care about the marriage lasting, I just want to procreate with a good set of genes. And even then, it's only because my parents want grandkids. If I get divorced, I will just find a 20 year old to spoil when I'm 50 if I still want some long-term companionship. It doesn't matter how good or bad a woman's logic is, as long as you hold all the cards, she can't do anything to you at all. You just have to care less about her than she does about you. If she tries to withhold sxx as a weapon, then she is going to lose because you can just go out and bang someone much younger then her. If she can't divorce you for a prize, then it doesn't matter at all what she thinks. As long as you are more of an a-hole than she is, then she will be the one spending all her time worrying if you've been faithful to the marriage and not the other way around.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: ZUCC420 on November 22, 2020, 03:28:38 AM
Like I said, I don't care about the marriage lasting, I just want to procreate with a good set of genes.

Better ways exist that doesn't involve the sĥit that comes with marriage such as surrogacy.

And even then, it's only because my parents want grandkids. If I get divorced, I will just find a 20 year old to spoil when I'm 50 if I still want some long-term companionship. It doesn't matter how good or bad a woman's logic is, as long as you hold all the cards, she can't do anything to you at all. You just have to care less about her than she does about you. If she tries to withhold sxx as a weapon, then she is going to lose because you can just go out and bang someone much younger then her. If she can't divorce you for a prize, then it doesn't matter at all what she thinks. As long as you are more of an   than her, then she spends all her time worrying about if you've been faithful to the marriage and not the other way around.

Like I said you assume the woman will be rational and won't just divorce you because she feels period. Also you seem to be quite naive based on these convictions you've created for yourself such as "If she tries to withhold sxx as a weapon, then she is going to lose because you can just go out and bang someone much younger then her."  so I suggest reading some basic evo psych.

https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/4hpmg2/theory_the_betaization_process_stages_of_female/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/4hpmg2/theory_the_betaization_process_stages_of_female/) start with this and move on to bigger books written by professionals or better yet watch Colttain and Thinking ape's videos.

That might serve you better but who knows from the looks of it, I can't add anything else since your knowledge regarding this topic is quite lacking but it seems you aren't completely off to the idea of learning so keep on internalizing these concepts about male and female nature in order to refine your black and white fallacious perspective.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: BelowTheMean on November 22, 2020, 04:34:39 AM
Surrogacy is a waste of money and legally you have to jump through a ton of loopholes, and even if the child is born there is still the risk that you can't keep them. If you have a kid with your wife, then at least the kid has a shot at having two parents instead of being guaranteed to only have one. As long as you put yourself in the right position before signing the marriage contract, then you win. All contracts are just a collection of words, and they can be defeated by outthinking the other party.

You read way to much about this red pill BS that people spew out of their butt. Even if it's true, theory rarely applies to real life. Besides, there are so many internal contradictions and simple solutions for the topics in the videos that you linked. I also just said I don't care if she divorces me or not, so why would I care at all about the reason that she wanted to get divorced? She can be as logical or emotional as she wants to be, if she wants to get divorced then we'll do the paperwork and I'll be a free man again. The only reason I even mention that she might not actively try to divorce me is because I don't think she will be incentivized to. You might think that she will regardless of how she feels, but I don't care whether she does or not, as long as I get a kid in her first. The fact that you haven't been able to tell this is my point means that your level of intelligence is about what I would expect for being part of the RP community. Based on what I've written, even if she has a 100% chance of divorcing me, I would still marry her because I would only marry someone that I could gain from financially. I'm not sure what part of your head is unable to wrap around that.

What kind of convictions do you think I can't hold myself to? Going out and banging another woman if she withholds sxx? I've dated over a dozen girls and easily slept with at least 100 in 20+ countries. I'm not trying to brag (because it really wasn't that difficult) but girls are literally everywhere and most of them have zero relationship value. In the 21st century they've priced themselves this way - just tonight's entertainment if needed. There's nothing that a woman does or says that is going to suddenly make me act like a beta, because they're all replaceable and I know how to look. I don't need to study your male and female nature concepts because I've already experienced everything first-hand.

Either way it's a win-win for me. As long as you achieve your goals without facing unnecessary consequences, then you win. I think you would be better served figuring out how to solve your own problems instead of complaining about how it's statistically unlikely to succeed.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: BelowTheMean on November 22, 2020, 04:44:27 AM
And you know what, even the betaization thing that you posted, I've experienced it first hand as well. I wasn't always the victor in every one of my encounters. I'm a living and breathing being too; I don't need to read theory on things that I've already experienced and know about because I'm able to internalize my experiences.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: . on November 22, 2020, 05:57:00 AM
I've dated over a dozen girls and easily slept with at least 100 in 20+ countries.

What countries are those? Thailand, India, Philippines, Vietnam, Jamaica, Zimbabwe, Nigeria, etc?  ;D

In all seriousness, it's not just the quantity, but the quality also bro. Just saying...  :)
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: BelowTheMean on November 22, 2020, 06:50:58 AM
What countries are those? Thailand, India, Philippines, Vietnam, Jamaica, Zimbabwe, Nigeria, etc?  ;D

In all seriousness, it's not just the quantity, but the quality also bro. Just saying...  :)

I’ve been to some of those, but my count is mostly in the good ol’ USA, where I live. I do like going out in Europe, East Asia and Southeast Asia too. I mean I’ve had a few of those drunk nights out where I picked up the wrong girl, but my standards have always increased with my ability to get girls. Besides, over a 15 year period my total is not really that high,  just a few a year on average in between relationships. If I didn’t care about quality I wouldn’t be bothering to lengthening my darn legs!

Also, I’m only commenting about it because the ZUCC420 guy seems to be really young and have very little actual experience dealing with women, and keeps trying  to talk about it from a philosophical perspective as if that’s better than going out and getting things done. I just wanted to point out in this case that no academic resource is going to teach you as much as doing things hands on. I’m pretty sure even the RP community tells its members to go out and do as many women as possible.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: HeightGain on November 22, 2020, 08:45:11 AM
There are some superficial women just like there are simple men, like this forum proves. A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing, especially when gleaned from unreliable sources but it evidently can brainwash those with little intellect.

Quoting YouTube as resources, trying to force unecessary long words into sentences, quoting incorrect statistics all to try and demonstrate your intelligence to try and provide credibility to your view and your hatred of women?

To anyone on this forum with half a brain it is clear you are struggling with your own inadequacies and rather than accept that you blame women for your issues because your ego can't accept reality.

If you ever get LL, which you won't, you still won't get women because of your personality and views.

This forum should be for everyone and your language and views are misogynistic and offensive to women.



Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: Skyisthelimit on November 22, 2020, 09:13:38 AM
There are some superficial women just like there are simple men, like this forum proves. A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing, especially when gleaned from unreliable sources but it evidently can brainwash those with little intellect.

Quoting YouTube as resources, trying to force unecessary long words into sentences, quoting incorrect statistics all to try and demonstrate your intelligence to try and provide credibility to your view and your hatred of women?

To anyone on this forum with half a brain it is clear you are struggling with your own inadequacies and rather than accept that you blame women for your issues because your ego can't accept reality.

If you ever get LL, which you won't, you still won't get women because of your personality and views.

This forum should be for everyone and your language and views are misogynistic and offensive to women.


I totally agree with you and with what you posted, but don’t even bother arguing with these guys, bro. It’s like having a discussion with a wall or the 45th potus and most of his followers. Clearly they aren’t interested in other views or opinions and rather stay with their own limited scope on the subject.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: HeightGain on November 22, 2020, 10:32:41 AM
You're right. I hope women and others aren't put off from posting here because of their views.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: ZUCC420 on November 22, 2020, 12:10:14 PM
My parents are still happily married, therefore your abstract numbers are irrelevant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8byGFryWQRU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8byGFryWQRU)
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: ZUCC420 on November 22, 2020, 12:53:45 PM
You're right. I hope women and others aren't put off from posting here because of their views.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITolYeDyKWw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITolYeDyKWw)

Watch out this video might induce a mental breakdown especially to simps since they're more prone to such cognitive defenses. I mean if the best you got is "wah you incel" and "your wrong cause I say so" then I'm sorry but you and your pussy worshiping posse aren't convincing anyone here about anything especially dating and relationships.

So far 3 of you clowns have shown your ugly mug in this forum defending muh lady, namely badbrain,skylimit and you heightgain. I wonder if more will show up in order to get their face blacked via facts, either you'll swallow the blackpill or you'll take it up in the arse as a suppository, either way you'll be taking something.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: . on November 22, 2020, 01:16:22 PM
You're right. I hope women and others aren't put off from posting here because of their views.

I didn't read ZUCC's posts, but you sound like a white knight, dude. From your previous post in the other thread as well. lol

Either way, there aren't many women on this site.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: ZUCC420 on November 22, 2020, 01:18:37 PM
I didn't read ZUCC's posts, but you sound like a white knight, dude. From your previous post in the other thread as well. lol

Either way, there aren't many women on this site.

There are some troll women here, like that black feminist lmao, I honestly miss her posts.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: NotSoBigBadBruin on November 22, 2020, 05:16:33 PM
Even if everything you say were true (by the way, there are also studies showing that married people are happier than singles: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/wellbeing/articles/personalandeconomicwellbeingintheuk/whatmattersmosttoourlifesatisfaction#most-important-factors-affecting-life-satisfaction), I’d rather play Russian roulette and take a shot at becoming one of those 13 percent than spend my life as a misogynist trying to convince myself and others that it’s actually a good thing to be rejected by women.

And even if my wife and I decided go to separate ways one day, I’d be forever grateful for all the amazing memories and our incredibly beautiful child, which are worth much more than all the money in the world. Ten years ago, I never thought I’d ever experience so much joy and happiness as I did, e.g., on the day of our wedding or the birth of our child. So the risk I took in getting married has already paid off a thousand times because it’s been the best couple of years I’ve ever had in my life, and there is no way this could turn into a loss someday because I’ve already won much more than I thought I ever would.

Again, if you want to live a risk-free life and stay single forever, that’s totally fine. And you can insult me as much as you want, but at the end of the day I can look at my beautiful wife and child and know that nothing in the world could ever happen to make me regret any of this.

I wish you all the best and hope you find happiness one day.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: ZUCC420 on November 22, 2020, 06:08:16 PM
Even if everything you say were true (by the way, there are also studies showing that married people are happier than singles: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/wellbeing/articles/personalandeconomicwellbeingintheuk/whatmattersmosttoourlifesatisfaction#most-important-factors-affecting-life-satisfaction), I’d rather play Russian roulette and take a shot at becoming one of those 13 percent than spend my life as a misogynist trying to convince myself and others that it’s actually a good thing to be rejected by women.

And even if my wife and I decided go to separate ways one day, I’d be forever grateful for all the amazing memories and our incredibly beautiful child, which are worth much more than all the money in the world. Ten years ago, I never thought I’d ever experience so much joy and happiness as I did, e.g., on the day of our wedding or the birth of our child. So the risk I took in getting married has already paid off a thousand times because it’s been the best couple of years I’ve ever had in my life, and there is no way this could turn into a loss someday because I’ve already won much more than I thought I ever would.

Again, if you want to live a risk-free life and stay single forever, that’s totally fine. And you can insult me as much as you want, but at the end of the day I can look at my beautiful wife and child and know that nothing in the world could ever happen to make me regret any of this.

I wish you all the best and hope you find happiness one day.

Lmao that study has been debunked years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MywOmkZJ7MI

Do you know what I interpret from your response to all my facts after facts where you keep on posting this happy go lucky feel goodism delusional crap that amounts to nothing but my feelings is more important than your cold detached logic?

A sad, sad man counting his days to get his legs broken being infirm for months in a hospital cot while spending thousands of dollars in allegedly vain purposes and NOT to save his own relationship by increasing his attractiveness for his wife lest she leaves him with half his $hit whilst stranding him in the gutter, trying his damndest to not feel buyers remorse and the need to believe that he hasn't made one of the stupidest decisions of his life ever that is subsidizing a grown ass leech for the rest of his life whilst working himself to death, and hence the need to justify his whole being to anonymous strangers online on a fringe surgery forum.

Like I cannot actually see these traditional bluepilled simps being able to go on if they were made to accept the awful truth of the position they find themselves in.

Instant seppuku either after divorce as can be seen from the divorce statistics or during a dead bedroom contract, literally BANG!......the end.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: NotSoBigBadBruin on November 22, 2020, 06:59:54 PM
Lmao that study has been debunked years ago

Do you know what I interpret from your response to all my facts after facts where you keep on posting this happy go lucky feel goodism delusional crap that amounts to nothing but my feelings is more important than your cold detached logic?

A sad, sad man counting his days to get his legs broken being infirm for months in a hospital cot while spending thousands of dollars in allegedly vain purposes and NOT to save his own relationship by increasing his attractiveness for his wife lest she leaves him with half his $hit whilst stranding him in the gutter, trying his damndest to not feel buyers remorse and the need to believe that he hasn't made one of the stupidest decisions of his life ever that is subsidizing a grown ass leech for the rest of his life whilst working himself to death, and hence the need to justify his whole being to anonymous strangers online on a fringe surgery forum.

Like I cannot actually see these traditional bluepilled simps being able to go on if they were made to accept the awful truth of the position they find themselves in.

Instant seppuku either after divorce as can be seen from the divorce statistics or during a dead bedroom contract, literally BANG!......the end.

Debunked years ago? That study was published last year. But a video created by some sxxually frustrated YouTuber is certainly more reliable than a study published by The Office for National Statistics in the UK--including data from almost 300,000 people. ::)

The fact that my wife thinks I'm perfect the way I am--and would do everything in her power to convince me not to do it if she knew that I'm considering LL even though I'm already 180 cm--is actually the main reason why I'm undecided as to whether I should really do this.

As mentioned previously, a guy like you is never going to get under my skin; so if those unsuccessful attempts at insulting me are making you feel better, just keep them coming.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: ZUCC420 on November 22, 2020, 07:04:06 PM
Debunked years ago? That study was published last year. But a video created by some sxxually frustrated YouTuber is certainly more reliable than a study published by The Office for National Statistics in the UK--including data from almost 300.000 people. ::)

The fact that my wife thinks I'm perfect the way I am--and would do everything in her power to convince me not to do it if she knew that I'm considering LL even though I'm already 180 cm--is actually the main reason why I'm undecided as to whether I should really do this.

As mentioned previously, a guy like you is never going to get under my skin; so if those unsuccessful attempts at insulting me are making you feel better, just keep them coming.

Well guess what this video was made last year as well you imbecilic pussy pedestalizing simp. Why don't you watch the whole stuff and then post your response here instead of saying NANANANA I LOVE BEING A SIMP FOR A LEECH THAT IS KILLING ME SLOWLY!

Keep on replying man, show the world or at least the strangers online how you don't give a flying rat's ass about an """"incel"""" telling you the secrets of your own marriage, cause that'll show him and the world.

Do you know what I interpret from your response to all my facts after facts where you keep on posting this happy go lucky feel goodism delusional crap that amounts to nothing but my feelings is more important than your cold detached logic?

A sad, sad man counting his days to get his legs broken being infirm for months in a hospital cot while spending thousands of dollars in allegedly vain purposes and NOT to save his own relationship by increasing his attractiveness for his wife (read: pr0stitute) lest she leaves him with half his $hit whilst stranding him in the gutter, trying his damndest to not feel buyers remorse and the need to believe that he hasn't made one of the stupidest decisions of his life ever that is subsidizing a grown ass leech for the rest of his life whilst working himself to death, and hence the need to justify his whole being to anonymous strangers online on a fringe surgery forum. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJGdw20pNgQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJGdw20pNgQ)

Like I cannot actually see these traditional bluepilled simps being able to go on if they were made to accept the awful truth of the position they find themselves in.

Instant seppuku either after divorce as can be seen from the divorce statistics or during a dead bedroom contract, literally BANG!......the end.

Honestly putting simps like you out of your misery is one of my guilty pleasures online lol.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: NotSoBigBadBruin on November 22, 2020, 07:41:56 PM
I feel sorry for you, man. Trying to drag other people down with you is obviously the only pleasure you have in life. As mentioned before, I hope you find happiness one day.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: ZUCC420 on November 22, 2020, 07:48:21 PM
I feel sorry for you, man. Trying to drag other people down with you is obviously the only pleasure you have in life. As mentioned before, I hope you find happiness one day.

Is that the best you can do? Let a little ol' """incel""" get under your skin?

Feel sorry for me, pity me,etc do whatever to make yourself feel comfortable, to stop yourself from getting torn apart the seams emotionally, mentally since that might actually get you to evaluate your own life before and after marriage and where it has landed you HELLO:"limblengtheningforum.com" instead of chatting with an """incel""" back and forth while constantly saying you're feeling sorry for him.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: Skyisthelimit on November 22, 2020, 08:24:46 PM
I feel sorry for you, man. Trying to drag other people down with you is obviously the only pleasure you have in life. As mentioned before, I hope you find happiness one day.

No reason to waste more valuable time with this narcissist. Clearly he’s got some deep emotional scars, which is why he’s behaving like a fool. What he needs is a good psychologist to open up with, about his issues with women. I believe he’s been rejected too many times by women, so he pretty much this defense mechanism were he believes that women are just in it for the money, that true love doesn’t actually exist. Its really sad honestly, I pity him.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: ZUCC420 on November 22, 2020, 08:38:08 PM
No reason to waste more valuable time with this narcissist. Clearly he’s got some deep emotional scars, which is why he’s behaving like a fool. What he needs is a good psychologist to open up with, about his issues with women. I believe he’s been rejected too many times by women, so he pretty much this defense mechanism were he believes that women are just in it for the money, that true love doesn’t actually exist. Its really sad honestly, I pity him.

Yap clearly I'm an emotionally wounded and a demented incel that's been hurt by hundreds of women and has been rejected throughout my life, that's why I'm bringing up studies after studies, statistics after statistics while elucidating facts about how the world works, using legitimate investigations made by credible people with credentials across the globe in the span of 100 years.

Yes that's obviously the reason, I'm just big bad sad incel that's suffering from mental issues as diagnosed by our residential armchair psychologist simp squirming around surgery forums. NO women wants me, what will i DO BESIDES GO ON ONLINE AND RAVE ABOUT HOW BAD THEY ARE, instead of kissing their asses 24/7 and bathing in their pussy juices and telling others how wonderful it tastes, especially to those that're missing out on it, those damn pesky incels.

Hahhaahahahh........

No one's buying this load of horse manure you pitiful simp, you and your other posse bigbadbrain and heightgain haven't done jack$hit to refute anything I've said or brought to light other than spewing barrages of ad hominems lmao.

Keep up defending muh lady's honor though, I'm sure she'll suck your c00k soon enough..........after your impending leg-breaking surgery pun intended.

(https://m.gjcdn.net/fireside-post-image/900/3945612-hrkywdjq-v4.jpg)
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: Skyisthelimit on November 22, 2020, 09:28:20 PM
Still talking to me, buddy? Thought we were over this. Unless you have something to contribute to the original post we are done with you. Move on now. Thanks
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: ZUCC420 on November 22, 2020, 09:30:59 PM
Still talking to me, buddy? Thought we were over this. Unless you have something to contribute to the original post we are done with you. Move on now. Thanks

No reason to waste more valuable time with this narcissist. Clearly he’s got some deep emotional scars, which is why he’s behaving like a fool. What he needs is a good psychologist to open up with, about his issues with women. I believe he’s been rejected too many times by women, so he pretty much this defense mechanism were he believes that women are just in it for the money, that true love doesn’t actually exist. Its really sad honestly, I pity him.

Yap clearly I'm an emotionally wounded and a demented incel that's been hurt by hundreds of women and has been rejected throughout my life, that's why I'm bringing up studies after studies, statistics after statistics while elucidating facts about how the world works, using legitimate investigations made by credible people with credentials across the globe in the span of 100 years.

Yes that's obviously the reason, I'm just big bad sad incel that's suffering from mental issues as diagnosed by our residential armchair psychologist simp squirming around surgery forums. NO women wants me, what will i DO BESIDES GO ON ONLINE AND RAVE ABOUT HOW BAD THEY ARE, instead of kissing their asses 24/7 and bathing in their pussy juices and telling others how wonderful it tastes, especially to those that're missing out on it, those damn pesky incels.

Hahhaahahahh........

No one's buying this load of horse manure you pitiful simp, you and your other posse bigbadbrain and heightgain haven't done jack$hit to refute anything I've said or brought to light other than spewing barrages of ad hominems lmao.

Keep up defending muh lady's honor though, I'm sure she'll suck your c00k soon enough..........after your impending leg-breaking surgery pun intended.

(https://m.gjcdn.net/fireside-post-image/900/3945612-hrkywdjq-v4.jpg)
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: HeightGain on November 22, 2020, 09:37:29 PM
It is better to be hated than ignored.

To be hated by women for your views is a step up in your eyes from being ignored by them.

Stop hating and you might be loved.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: ZUCC420 on November 22, 2020, 09:38:06 PM
It is better to be hated than ignored.

To be hated by women for your views is a step up in your eyes from being ignored by them.

Stop hating and you might be loved.

Still talking to me, buddy? Thought we were over this. Unless you have something to contribute to the original post we are done with you. Move on now. Thanks

No reason to waste more valuable time with this narcissist. Clearly he’s got some deep emotional scars, which is why he’s behaving like a fool. What he needs is a good psychologist to open up with, about his issues with women. I believe he’s been rejected too many times by women, so he pretty much this defense mechanism were he believes that women are just in it for the money, that true love doesn’t actually exist. Its really sad honestly, I pity him.

Yap clearly I'm an emotionally wounded and a demented incel that's been hurt by hundreds of women and has been rejected throughout my life, that's why I'm bringing up studies after studies, statistics after statistics while elucidating facts about how the world works, using legitimate investigations made by credible people with credentials across the globe in the span of 100 years.

Yes that's obviously the reason, I'm just big bad sad incel that's suffering from mental issues as diagnosed by our residential armchair psychologist simp squirming around surgery forums. NO women wants me, what will i DO BESIDES GO ON ONLINE AND RAVE ABOUT HOW BAD THEY ARE, instead of kissing their asses 24/7 and bathing in their pussy juices and telling others how wonderful it tastes, especially to those that're missing out on it, those damn pesky incels.

Hahhaahahahh........

No one's buying this load of horse manure you pitiful simp, you and your other posse bigbadbrain and heightgain haven't done jack$hit to refute anything I've said or brought to light other than spewing barrages of ad hominems lmao.

Keep up defending muh lady's honor though, I'm sure she'll suck your c00k soon enough..........after your impending leg-breaking surgery pun intended.

(https://m.gjcdn.net/fireside-post-image/900/3945612-hrkywdjq-v4.jpg)

And now the simp trinity is completed when one after the other defended their own simpness for the whole world to see.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: IwannaBeTaller on November 22, 2020, 10:31:20 PM
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Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: Kal el on November 22, 2020, 10:39:01 PM
Hey guys....whts so hot going on in this thread..man i have been seeing so much negativity spreading on around here like a never ending rain..chill out guys....we all freinds here..suffering from the same curse..we all are same boat brothers....instead of being rude..try to help each other in exchanging info. About the curse and its related solution or the surgery....talk about mock ups and complications....how do girls get in here man😅....we are not here to break our legs for only girls its much more than that..its abt being comfortable with our own being our own existence..not others.
Title: Re: Why every inch from 5'5" to 5'8" makes a difference
Post by: ZUCC420 on November 22, 2020, 11:43:10 PM
Some of the guys here are just so will-fully ignorant and bluepilled to the T........ it's like you're trying to help them get off the "matrix" but it soon becomes apparent that they don't want out.

Despite tangible concrete evidence showing them they're basically a cattle in a slaughterhouse, waiting to get slaughtered while enjoying every moment of it..... they still want to live in their interdimensional vacuum filled with pussy juices and sing songs about how wonderful it tastes and how people are missing out that it borders on religious zealotry.

Nigh fanatical that they don't even want to entertain any opposing forces that challenges their beliefs.

It's like Morphous said in the Matrix - "You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it."