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Limb Lengthening Surgery => Height & Proportions => Topic started by: exceeding2meters on October 11, 2020, 10:13:55 PM

Title: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: exceeding2meters on October 11, 2020, 10:13:55 PM
https://imgur.com/a/NPWomoK

I got a professional on fivver to do it, I gave him my height and asked him to lengthen 8cm femurs and 6cm tibias, and of course asked him to not lengthen torso and arms. I feel like I look surprisingly proportional. What do you guys think?
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: deletedaccount on October 11, 2020, 10:51:13 PM
Looks very good
Not something I can pull off  :(
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: Bruno Mars on October 11, 2020, 11:59:26 PM
Your arms look way too short to be honest.
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: exceeding2meters on October 12, 2020, 12:09:04 AM
Arm length looks ok to me.

I am concerned though that he did not actually lengthen me 14cm. When I compare with this old post limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=2905.0 on the after picture he is standing a lot taller.

I have no clue how to confirm if he lengthened me 14cm
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: ghkid2019 on October 12, 2020, 01:10:58 AM
No one gives a fùck about arm length besides sad LLers like us and bruno "I'll catch a grenade for ya" Mars. Not a single person will notice this shít. Except you.

You look fine

U can confirm by using a computer ruler. Measure the height gained on head. Divide by the computer height of whole body of old body on computer. Now make sure that fraction is the same as 14/old height
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: Bruno Mars on October 12, 2020, 03:51:26 AM
Sure, no one cares about it until you stand next to someone who is 14 cm taller than you naturally and you realize what a freak you are. Not to mentioned about the certain long term damage cause by lengthen 14 cm.
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: ghkid2019 on October 12, 2020, 04:49:05 AM
Sure, no one cares about it until you stand next to someone who is 14 cm taller than you naturally and you realize what a freak you are. Not to mentioned about the certain long term damage cause by lengthen 14 cm.

How to change height neurosis into Proportion neurosis

God kill my áss. Fück this shít
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: simple on October 12, 2020, 05:44:05 AM
14 cm is alot. your height looks good on the picture. but it looks too good to be true. in reality 14 cm is alot and any proportional person with 14 cm will look unproportional. the pic does not look accurate to me. i would double check
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: exceeding2meters on October 12, 2020, 07:27:47 AM
No one gives a fùck about arm length besides sad LLers like us and bruno "I'll catch a grenade for ya" Mars. Not a single person will notice this shít. Except you.

You look fine

U can confirm by using a computer ruler. Measure the height gained on head. Divide by the computer height of whole body of old body on computer. Now make sure that fraction is the same as 14/old height

I followed your instructions. He has lengthened me 130 pixels and to get the fraction 14/old height he should have lengthened me 178. By my calculations each pixel is 12 cm, so then he has lengthened me only 10cm and not 14cm, which would explain the proportionality.

Still not bad though, I'd take 174 gladly even if 178 is not feasible.
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: Bruno Mars on October 12, 2020, 08:12:17 AM
I followed your instructions. He has lengthened me 130 pixels and to get the fraction 14/old height he should have lengthened me 178. By my calculations each pixel is 12 cm, so then he has lengthened me only 10cm and not 14cm, which would explain the proportionality.

Still not bad though, I'd take 174 gladly even if 178 is not feasible.

Even 10 cm is a lots for one segment. Nobody in their right mind would do that amount of lengthening even in femurs. You would need 2 surgeries if you want to get 10 cm
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: exceeding2meters on October 12, 2020, 08:17:45 AM
That's for sure, but I can do 6cm fem and 4cm tib, which is what he did in the mockup after all. Or just do 8cm femurs and call it a day but I don't know if I would be happy at 172 / 5'8
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: Bruno Mars on October 12, 2020, 08:25:20 AM
That's for sure, but I can do 6cm fem and 4cm tib, which is what he did in the mockup after all. Or just do 8cm femurs and call it a day but I don't know if I would be happy at 172 / 5'8

yeah, its a tough call. 1m74/1m75 will get you closer to the average height for sure, but 2 surgeries also mean more time to recover + money...
Maybe you can do your femurs first, then make a decision!? If money is not a problem, then go for 2 man. Its much better in term of proportion. And if you do it with stryde, then time for recovery will be shorter.
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: NotSoBigBadBruin on October 12, 2020, 11:22:46 AM
The mock-up looks amazing! 👌🏻 Yes, your arms look a bit short, but most people won’t notice.
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: Hatch on October 12, 2020, 11:55:44 AM
Even hands are 100% fine. I have seen so many people whose proportions are even more "disproportionate". Especially many youths (probably because no muscles yet) look like they are just legs. And no one still cares.
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: Iron_Man on October 12, 2020, 03:12:54 PM
I think your mockup is less than 14 cm. My version looks like this - https://imgur.com/a/3qXUO1W
1. Orig
2. +8 fem
3. +8 fem +6 tib
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: exceeding2meters on October 12, 2020, 03:15:34 PM
I think your mockup is less than 14 cm. My version looks like this - https://imgur.com/a/3qXUO1W
1. Orig
2. +8 fem
3. +8 fem +6 tib

You are the best, thank you so much for putting the effort! Really appreciate it!

I like both only fem as well as fem + tibia, what do you guys think?
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: ghkid2019 on October 12, 2020, 03:24:35 PM
Thank you Iron Man as always. Probably the mister should pay you like he did with his scamming 10cm fiverr dude.

And yeah man, femur and femur+tibs look very fine. I personally like femur+ tib the most.

NO ONE GIVES A FÜCK ABOUT ARM LENGTH UNLESS UR LITERALLY ACHONDROPLASIA ARM PROPORTIONS. SO IGNORE THE HATERS

Don't let some nazi tell you random SHÏT  otherwise. You look absolutely fine in ironically the latter two. Now the original, the natural proportions looks like the worse. Haha.
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: Iron_Man on October 12, 2020, 03:30:03 PM
Glad to help you. Your first mockup, I think, looks like 9 cm
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: exceeding2meters on October 12, 2020, 03:33:21 PM
Glad to help you. Your first mockup, I think, looks like 9 cm

Thank you so much!
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: exceeding2meters on October 12, 2020, 03:34:43 PM
Thank you Iron Man as always. Probably the mister should pay you like he did with his scamming 10cm fiverr dude.

And yeah man, femur and femur+tibs look very fine. I personally like femur+ tib the most.

NO ONE GIVES A FÜCK ABOUT ARM LENGTH UNLESS UR LITERALLY ACHONDROPLASIA ARM PROPORTIONS. SO IGNORE THE HATERS

Don't let some nazi tell you random SHÏT  otherwise. You look absolutely fine in ironically the latter two. Now the original, the natural proportions looks like the worse. Haha.

Thanks my friend, it is very encouraging what you say. Although arms do look a bit short and legs might be a bit "stilty", I think the benefit of +14cm far outweigh any negative result in proportions.

Different opinions are welcome as well!
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: Hagane on October 12, 2020, 07:26:11 PM

NO ONE GIVES A FÜCK ABOUT ARM LENGTH UNLESS UR LITERALLY ACHONDROPLASIA ARM PROPORTIONS. SO IGNORE THE HATERS

Don't let some nazi tell you random SHÏT  otherwise. You look absolutely fine in ironically the latter two. Now the original, the natural proportions looks like the worse. Haha.

this
even paley assayag and rozzie all say this, everyone do yourself a favor and stop fixating on arms, you will only end up poisoning your mind

op your arms look perfectly fine if you had jsut shown me the edited ver i would not have suspected a thing!
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: exceeding2meters on October 12, 2020, 07:44:32 PM
this
even paley assayag and rozzie all say this, everyone do yourself a favor and stop fixating on arms, you will only end up poisoning your mind

op your arms look perfectly fine if you had jsut shown me the edited ver i would not have suspected a thing!

Hi friend, are you referrring to the original one I posted (the incorrect one) or the one by Iron_Man?
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: NotSoBigBadBruin on October 12, 2020, 09:06:32 PM
I’d still aim for 12 cm (8 + 4), not because of proportions but to lower the risk of complications.
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: Hagane on October 12, 2020, 10:26:42 PM
Hi friend, are you referrring to the original one I posted (the incorrect one) or the one by Iron_Man?

ah at the time i only saw your initial one.
after reviewing ironmans: your arms still look perfectly proportional!
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: exceeding2meters on October 12, 2020, 11:22:20 PM
ah at the time i only saw your initial one.
after reviewing ironmans: your arms still look perfectly proportional!

Thank you so much friend, it is very encouraging to know that my dream of 178 is at least theoretically possible.
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: Bruno Mars on October 12, 2020, 11:39:24 PM
Thank you so much friend, it is very encouraging to know that my dream of 178 is at least theoretically possible.

These people are trying to poison your mind that 14 cm (even with 2 different surgeries) is a healthy amount of lengthening. I think you should do 8 (femurs) + 6 (tibs) or 5 (femurs) + 5 (tibs).

Even 0.5 cm over your limit might cause a tremendous affect on your recovery because you do not know how your soft tissue will react to this kind of lengthening. These people are being delusional because they are convincing themselves that they can do a huge amount too. Ask any L veterans like Sweden, and you will know what happened to your body when you cross 5 cm on your tibs.
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: exceeding2meters on October 12, 2020, 11:51:05 PM
These people are trying to poison your mind that 14 cm (even with 2 different surgeries) is a healthy amount of lengthening. I think you should do 8 (femurs) + 6 (tibs) or 5 (femurs) + 5 (tibs).

Even 0.5 cm over your limit might cause a tremendous affect on your recovery because you do not know how your soft tissue will react to this kind of lengthening. These people are being delusional because they are convincing themselves that they can do a huge amount too. Ask any L veterans like Sweden, and you will know what happened to your body when you cross 5 cm on your tibs.

Hi friend, you mention 8 femurs + 6 tibs, that's what I am talking about as well.

Doing this is surgery is in itself dangerous. Obviously lengthening too much is exponentially riskier. I just know that Giotikas allows for 8cm femur and 6cm tibias assuming everything goes well (that's what he has commented in one of his videos on youtube), and I just wanted to know if theoretically I would be able to pull this off (meaning I would not look like an alien)

I don't know much about Sweden, but afaik he did 7.5 cm on tibias with Ilizarov method. From 6cm to 7.5cm that is a big increase. Perhaps 6cm is also terrible, perhaps it can be tolerated by a selected few, I don't know. Maybe with TSF instead of traditional Ilizarov or even better with Stryde 6cm is more realistic?
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: ghkid2019 on October 13, 2020, 12:08:25 AM
I wud do 7+4, with the logic being one cm less than the "limit" for each segment. 11cm increase, and still get you to 175.

I will not recommend doing more than 5cm on Tibias, unless they were a year apart. The tibia just simply cannot take much. U stretch the Achilles way too much.

Like bruno "uptown funk you wink" mars said, even a small increase of 0.5cm on Tibia can really push you over the top and fück you up. Under 5cm tibia plz
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: Hagane on October 13, 2020, 12:16:09 AM
These people are trying to poison your mind that 14 cm (even with 2 different surgeries) is a healthy amount of lengthening. I think you should do 8 (femurs) + 6 (tibs) or 5 (femurs) + 5 (tibs).

Even 0.5 cm over your limit might cause a tremendous affect on your recovery because you do not know how your soft tissue will react to this kind of lengthening. These people are being delusional because they are convincing themselves that they can do a huge amount too. Ask any L veterans like Sweden, and you will know what happened to your body when you cross 5 cm on your tibs.

no i agree that 14 is quite a load on the soft tissues, and that the amounts you recommend are smart.
my point was simply that his arms looked ok because they were proportional to his torso
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: Hagane on October 13, 2020, 12:17:34 AM
as ghkid said it would be much safer to lengthen one segment at a time with at least a year in between to maximise his body's ability to lengthen
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: Bruno Mars on October 13, 2020, 12:53:52 AM
1 inch of height is not noticeable. So at 1m75, you will be almost in the range of those who are around 1m73-1m78. I do not see any difference in this group of people standing at 1m74/75. The difference is getting more noticeable at 2 inches or about 5 cm. If you get in good shape, I guarantee you that 1m75 still looks attractive as hell.
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: Bruno Mars on October 13, 2020, 12:59:06 AM
Hi friend, you mention 8 femurs + 6 tibs, that's what I am talking about as well.

Doing this is surgery is in itself dangerous. Obviously lengthening too much is exponentially riskier. I just know that Giotikas allows for 8cm femur and 6cm tibias assuming everything goes well (that's what he has commented in one of his videos on youtube), and I just wanted to know if theoretically I would be able to pull this off (meaning I would not look like an alien)

I don't know much about Sweden, but afaik he did 7.5 cm on tibias with Ilizarov method. From 6cm to 7.5cm that is a big increase. Perhaps 6cm is also terrible, perhaps it can be tolerated by a selected few, I don't know. Maybe with TSF instead of traditional Ilizarov or even better with Stryde 6cm is more realistic?

Yes, if your mind is set with 14 cm. Then do 8 + 6. But I think it is a pretty crazy amount. 5 + 5 or 6+5 is more reasonable if you have the money and time!
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: exceeding2meters on October 13, 2020, 11:07:23 AM
I really have no clue how possible 14cm is in reality, it is very well possible my body wouldn't be able to tolerate it, maybe after the doctor says the added range of side effects I won't want to do it anymore, maybe I won't be able to handle all the pain.

But in the hypothetical case that these variables wouldn't be a problem, I just wanted to know how I would look, and I think I pull it off pretty well compared to other mockups I've seen. 6cm + 5cm would also make me happy for sure.
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: deletedaccount on October 13, 2020, 03:48:53 PM
1 inch of height is not noticeable. So at 1m75, you will be almost in the range of those who are around 1m73-1m78. I do not see any difference in this group of people standing at 1m74/75. The difference is getting more noticeable at 2 inches or about 5 cm. If you get in good shape, I guarantee you that 1m75 still looks attractive as hell.
That's interesting. I clearly notice the height difference quite distinctly between someone who is an inch taller or shorter, and I have measured my dad to be half an inch taller than me and the height difference is a little noticeable. I also notice that occasionally when he has been on his feet and I'm just out of bed I look a hair taller so I also notice morning-night height variations visually. Maybe I'm just very autistic.
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: Athens on October 15, 2020, 04:39:16 AM
Stryde, if you’re seeking 10cm. No brained, just get 8cm with femurs, and that’s it. You’ll feel happy to leave LL behind. Again, don’t go through crippling pain and surgery and money for 2 measly centimeters. 8 will be perfectly fine once you’ve gone through the recovery and have been fatigued from the process.
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: exceeding2meters on October 15, 2020, 05:06:19 AM
Stryde, if you’re seeking 10cm. No brained, just get 8cm with femurs, and that’s it. You’ll feel happy to leave LL behind. Again, don’t go through crippling pain and surgery and money for 2 measly centimeters. 8 will be perfectly fine once you’ve gone through the recovery and have been fatigued from the process.

Ideally I go for 14. I would noy rebreak for 2cm that's dumb obviously. But for another 6cm it is a different story (always assuming that is possible, I have never spoken to a doctor)
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: Athens on October 16, 2020, 12:54:46 AM
You may want one segment, start off maxing femurs. Then, if you go for more, you will spend more money, go through a harder recovery than femurs, and have unnatural proportions for life.
Ideally I go for 14. I would noy rebreak for 2cm that's dumb obviously. But for another 6cm it is a different story (always assuming that is possible, I have never spoken to a doctor)
Do you mean to tell me you plan on getting 14cm on femurs? That's not the most advisable course of action I can tell you that. Those who have gotten 10cm on femurs wish to do reduction becuse while theyre nked with that tinder girl, they have gotten weird comments. They actually felt more confident going from 10 to 8 for example.
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: exceeding2meters on October 16, 2020, 03:28:29 AM
I want to do 8 fem 6 tib not 14 on one segment, I am not a madman
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: Jackieeechan on October 23, 2020, 08:25:54 AM
Do you think you can pull off 14cm? Most people dont even get to 8cm in fem alone and forget about tib. Its easier to do mockups and plan but when it comes to reality you will need to go for what's safe for you.
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: exceeding2meters on October 23, 2020, 10:10:00 AM
Do you think you can pull off 14cm? Most people dont even get to 8cm in fem alone and forget about tib. Its easier to do mockups and plan but when it comes to reality you will need to go for what's safe for you.

I said already, I was just curious to see what is theoretically possible to achieve without looking like an alien. Whether I can pull that off in real life is a different story.
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: Jackieeechan on October 23, 2020, 12:54:45 PM
If you can pull it, it wont look weird. I have seen/know people with long legs. You just need to get muscle on the legs to make it look adjusted with your torso.
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: Siegfried on October 23, 2020, 01:00:15 PM
@instrydemyfaith
All the mockups Look Fine.
Just curious, since i will be going for 10cm (6+4]: what’s your wingspan?
Title: Re: 14cm lengthening mockup proportion, what is your opinion
Post by: exceeding2meters on October 23, 2020, 01:26:46 PM
@instrydemyfaith
All the mockups Look Fine.
Just curious, since i will be going for 10cm (6+4]: what’s your wingspan?

From a crude measurement I made, I am between 170 - 173. I don't have a wide back so I guess a fair number of cms comes from my arms. My height is 164.

I think 10cm is generally fine for proportions. But knowing wingspan is not enough I think. It also matters leg/torso ratio, femur/tibia ratio (but since you are lengthening both you'll probably be ok) and imo also arm length/total height. But these are just my observations so take it with a grain of salt