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Title: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on December 27, 2020, 12:22:01 PM
Hi Everyone, I will start by saying that I had wanted to get this surgery done for two years now and I will be as honest as I possibly can with my diary without any promotions or hidden pains in my diary, I will say it as it is.

My starting height: 163
Weight: 63kg
Caucasian male age 22

My goal is as much as my body will safely allow.

Day one, Surgery was on 23/12/2020 at 1:30pm. Before this they got my x-ray and also took my bloods,ect. I will be staying in Istanbul for the entire duration of the lengthening period. I have rented out a decent enough 1 bedroom apartment and the landlord is also quite friendly.
Anyway, as I was being brought into the surgery room I was thinking of just telling them to cancel and leaving altogether but I still went ahead with it. My surgery took 3hrs and 20 minutes as Dr Buldu had said and as I came out the anaesthesia had me shaking like hell, I was more or less blacked out for a few hrs. Immediately after the surgery I was regretting everything, I don’t mind people knowing this but I was tearing up when I looked down at my broken legs asking myself if my life before LL was even that bad. The pain was there obviously, it is not agonising but more like 5/10 pain that is always there, did not go away for me, not even with pain killers.


24/12/2020 Second day I took my first steps with Dr. Buldu, progress was horrible I thought but a few steps after a surgery like this was something. As I sat laid back on my bed Dr. Halil assured me that everything had gone well despite my pessimistic view on the internet whole situation and that I would get better day by day. That day I stood up only once and practised other leg movements on my bed.


25/12/2020 - Easily the worst Christmas anyone can wish for, the pain did not go away all day. Personally for me it was 6/10 and even though I did try and get some sleep it was only for a moment until the pain woke me up again. Stood up twice that day and also had my catheter taken out and got given this bottle to leak in which was actually rather convenient and easy to use.


26/12/2020 - Better day out of the rest, I also went to take the number two as well and which was bloody exhausting, but the standing up afterwards is the hardest part as anyone doing LON Femurs can relate. I also walked much more and was feeling a little better than before, the regret was starting to fade away. I had a normal nights sleep also which helped rest my mind.


27/12/2020 - Today I woke in the worst possible mood. Having a nice dream does not help when you wake up a cripple who cannot even take a dump without assistance, I was gloomy all morning and got a bit teary every now and again too. Used the nurse button for some pain killers as the pain was still there, (just so you all know, literally no nurses can speak english here so use a translator for any conversation you want to have) I was especially down this morning because my Knee ROM was worse than yesterday which concerned me but it went back to like it was yesterday with a bit of walking and going to the toilet. Dr. Buldu came in earlier today and he was quite satisfied with my progress. Not as fast as some but nice and average he said. Tomorrow I get out to go home which is a relief because the hospital is over the top depressing. The food is terrible too, not in the country but the hospital.


I will get on with my day now watch a movie or two and update later tomorrow after my arrival home. I might not update as much because it is a long and depressing process.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Skyisthelimit on December 27, 2020, 12:54:34 PM
Hey there Jamesy998,
You are done with the first big step which was getting the surgery done. I’m glad to hear that everything went well. A lot of people seem to be getting the surgery done with Buldu nowadays. I saw in the LiveLifeTaller Insta that currently there are 7 other patients living together in a hotel that they normally recommend patients. Maybe you could get in contact with some of them to make the journey somewhat easier. I recall one of Buldu’s current patient is a member of the forum, and he also started a diary. His username is Frederico68 if I’m not mistaken. Maybe you could get in contact with him through the forum. I believe he provided his phone number as well. Although, he does seem to be very biased when it comes to dr. Buldu. I read that he because one of Buldu’s international patient advisors, which I found very peculiar and hilarious at the same time. One day you’re getting a surgery done and the other you get a job offer from your surgeon. I agree with renting a separate apartment than staying in a hotel which would probably end up being more expensive.
I have a few questions for whenever you have the time to answer:
- How did you establish contact with Buldu? Was it through his medical tourism company LiveLifeTaller or one of his international patient advisors?
- How much did you end up paying for only the surgery (without the hotel included). I recall they have a LON package which is €16.000 with a 10-day stay at a 3-4 stars hotel after the inital stau in the hospital.
- What do you think so far about Buldu and his team?
I really hope you decide to keep your diary updated for all of us here in the forum. I will be following your diary since Buldu is in my list of possible surgeons.
If you encounter any issues don’t hesitate on posting it here since there a lot of veterans and knowledgeable members in the forum. Wish you a great lengthening and remember you are not alone! Hang in there, bud!

Regards,
Sky
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on December 27, 2020, 01:04:00 PM
Hi Sky,
Yeah the price is like you said and a bit more if we count the walker and small things like that. They do of course offer a hotel package with that too but I did not go for it as I had the apartment arranged before even arriving in Turkey. The cost would also include the hospital stay for you and the first few initial x-rays. But after the procedure the x-rays will run you €100 euro or so. Bare in mind they have mobile x-ray machines and they come to you so you do not even need to leave the house.

Buldu and his team are good. Dr. Buldu gives you his whatsapp and the man basically texts you 24/7 if you need anything. His team is quite generous too, they pick you up and drop you off home too whenever the need and support you as much as they can. I appreciate the support Sky, this is by far the most challenging time of my life and any little help is appreciated.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: limbcllnea on December 27, 2020, 02:21:18 PM
Hi Sky,
Yeah the price is like you said and a bit more if we count the walker and small things like that. They do of course offer a hotel package with that too but I did not go for it as I had the apartment arranged before even arriving in Turkey. The cost would also include the hospital stay for you and the first few initial x-rays. But after the procedure the x-rays will run you €100 euro or so. Bare in mind they have mobile x-ray machines and they come to you so you do not even need to leave the house.

You will get through this. Stay strong.

Also, I was wondering how much was the apartment that you arranged? Did you save a lot of money from that doing instead of the hotel or was it similar?
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on December 27, 2020, 02:48:48 PM
You will get through this. Stay strong.

Also, I was wondering how much was the apartment that you arranged? Did you save a lot of money from that doing instead of the hotel or was it similar?

Thanks for the kind words, yes I think so because for my apartment I am paying €250 euros per month and that includes wifi, landlord doing the laundry, landlord also arranged for the local market to deliver goods to my house and of course cleaning service. The hotel that that Dr. Buldus team have arranged would probably cost more but don’t quote me on that, am not certain. My relative is with me to support my recovery and I did not want to interact with anyone else during this process as you would imagine.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: limbcllnea on December 27, 2020, 03:17:35 PM
How is the food outside the hospital?

Do you just order food everyday or have someone cook?
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on December 27, 2020, 03:29:50 PM
My relative cooks the basics here and there. The Dairy products here are of high standard which is the most important part. The food is also relatively cheap depends where you shop, bigger supermarkets will cost you a lot more than smaller markets.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on December 28, 2020, 03:20:30 PM
28/12/2020 - Monday evening as I type this. Today was the most challenging day so far. Past few days my knee ROM has not been 115 Degrees  not too far off the 90 mark but the pain was not too bad. I felt my body stopping me. My right knee area is more inflated so I have an ice pack on that, Dr said it is nothing serious as both legs are going to react differently and sometimes the left will be more painful than the right. My left leg bends about 5 degrees better than the right. I got my blood thinner done, routine checkup and I was about to be released. I was taken by livelifetaller team member, this guy is 190cm and built well, thank God for that because on my way back to my hotel there are quite a lot of steps in the front entrance which I would never be able to go up on my own. After leaving the car amd holding up traffic with my walker on that narrow street for about 4 minutes which felt like 30 minutes of embarrassment for me I got to the stairs. I had help from another passing civilian who was kind enough to help us virtually carry me up those stairs. At that point I felt like Hank from Breaking Bad when he is recovering and almost craps himself. Entering my apartment and lying on the bed felt better than sx at that point. Now I’m just typing this on my bed watching the Walking Dead. Bloody hell does it feel good to be out of hospital. I have been given a truck load of medication and blood thinners just in case but honestly I feel zero pain unless I am walking or trying to bend my knee so I guess that is good. Dr. Buldu checks up on his patients at their apartments every week which I’m sure many doctors out there would not bother doing.

I feel a bit better today, smiled for the first time in 6 days. Anyone considering leg lengthening out there. Unless you literally despise you’re height and cannot live with it, DO NOT get this surgery. I was an absolute fool believing it would be a breeze walking in like a schmuck later finding out that it is a mountain to climb.

Good Evening to anyone reading. I will update as soon as some progress is made.

Ciao
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: asian on December 28, 2020, 03:36:52 PM
Hi Jamesy998,  Thanks for sharing your journey! The first few weeks are the most difficult, you'll be getting better soon.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on December 28, 2020, 03:38:56 PM
Thanks mate, it honestly means alot!
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: BelowTheMean on December 28, 2020, 03:53:20 PM
I think you'll find that things get better over the next few weeks as you gain more function back in your legs. Good luck with your journey and keep the end goal in mind!
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on December 28, 2020, 07:02:35 PM
I think you'll find that things get better over the next few weeks as you gain more function back in your legs. Good luck with your journey and keep the end goal in mind!

Cheers for the support mate, I just hope this right knee settles.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Apollo676 on December 28, 2020, 09:03:43 PM
Hey man,best wishes for your recovery,i'm 25,165cm,and i'm seriously considering this operation,though the cost is really what is stopping me,Buldu is like 16k,and maybe 20k at most if i would stay in Istanbul for recovery,but i read mixed reviews about Turkish doctors,especially the wannabetaller team which crippled some guys apparently,i hope Buldu will make a good job on you,i read two diaries here on the forum about him,and they looked alright,hopefully it will turn out great for you,what is your final goal about your future height ?
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on December 28, 2020, 09:22:27 PM
Hey man,best wishes for your recovery,i'm 25,165cm,and i'm seriously considering this operation,though the cost is really what is stopping me,Buldu is like 16k,and maybe 20k at most if i would stay in Istanbul for recovery,but i read mixed reviews about Turkish doctors,especially the wannabetaller team which crippled some guys apparently,i hope Buldu will make a good job on you,i read two diaries here on the forum about him,and they looked alright,hopefully it will turn out great for you,what is your final goal about your future height ?

I will post my X-Ray when I get the time. Dr. Buldus bone cut was 100% accurate, could not ask for a better procedure. Everything was done great on his half, the rest is up to my motivation and my body. I cannot speak on behalf of other doctors in Istanbul but Dr. Buldu has not cripple a single patient. Sure, there have been some major hard recoveries here and there mostly the fault of the patient but everyone has got back up on the feet at the end.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Apollo676 on December 28, 2020, 09:31:56 PM
Looks tempting,16k euros is really a serious advantage over other doctors,all my researches led me to Dr.Giotikas in Greece,he looks professionnal but he's only doing stryde of femurs,but 50k is a whole other budget,what's your height target ?
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on December 28, 2020, 09:34:19 PM
Looks tempting,16k euros is really a serious advantage over other doctors,all my researches led me to Dr.Giotikas in Greece,he looks professionnal but he's only doing stryde of femurs,but 50k is a whole other budget,what's your height target ?

If you can I would save up for stryde, not just internals. External femurs limits you in many aspects, I can barely scratch my a$$ haha
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Apollo676 on December 28, 2020, 09:37:31 PM
lol 16k is realistic,50k man,that's just absurd,even if i could save 50k i don't think i'm going to spend it all just for this,i don't mind the pain or even the discomfort,for like 3 months if it can spare 30k in the process,but from what i heard lon of femurs is not very optimal
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Tokito_Ohma on December 29, 2020, 10:39:31 AM
lol 16k is realistic,50k man,that's just absurd,even if i could save 50k i don't think i'm going to spend it all just for this,i don't mind the pain or even the discomfort,for like 3 months if it can spare 30k in the process,but from what i heard lon of femurs is not very optimal

What about recovery? Some of us only want one surgery and recover as optimally and as fast as possible. We've seen people jogging 4 month post of with Stryde, sprinting 6 months post op.

As you can imagine by reading the op's diary, getting back from being crippled is very huge for your mental health. Imagine still limping around after 1 year post op? But hey! You saved 50k right??
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on December 29, 2020, 11:01:17 AM
What about recovery? Some of us only want one surgery and recover as optimally and as fast as possible. We've seen people jogging 4 month post of with Stryde, sprinting 6 months post op.

As you can imagine by reading the op's diary, getting back from being crippled is very huge for your mental health. Imagine still limping around after 1 year post op? But hey! You saved 50k right??

Dr. Buldus patient who did 10cm on his femurs is running, jumping and sprinting after 11 months. 11 months from first surgery and not removal of fixators. This guy came by to see everyone and demonstrated everything in front of us, he is now lengthening his tibias.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Skyisthelimit on December 29, 2020, 11:17:41 AM
Dr. Buldus patient who did 10cm on his femurs is running, jumping and sprinting after 11 months. 11 months from first surgery and not removal of fixators. This guy came by to see everyone and demonstrated everything in front of us, he is now lengthening his tibias.
If you’re talking about David, he did 9.5cm. I think you’re getting the fixators and nails confused. He did remove the fixators, but not the nails. This is the link to his athletic demonstration after 11 months. https://www.instagram.com/tv/CIvTwFNHirm/?igshid=asogsp5vr5n1
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Tokito_Ohma on December 29, 2020, 11:47:26 AM
Dr. Buldus patient who did 10cm on his femurs is running, jumping and sprinting after 11 months. 11 months from first surgery and not removal of fixators. This guy came by to see everyone and demonstrated everything in front of us, he is now lengthening his tibias.

Well, I already know about this guys, perhaps David is the exception and not the rule. After extensive research, most people simply recover much faster on Stryde and that's the truth. Just read 5  random femur Stryde diaries vs 5 femur LON diaries and compare them side by side. (I myself was considering LON instead of Stryde for economical reasons, but I will now delay a few months for Stryde).

Nevertheless this is just my opinion and I wish you the absolute best in your distraction and recovery
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on December 29, 2020, 11:51:03 AM
Well, I already know about this guys, perhaps David is the exception and not the rule. After extensive research, most people simply recover much faster on Stryde and that's the truth. Just read 5  random femur Stryde diaries vs 5 femur LON diaries and compare them side by side. (I myself was considering LON instead of Stryde for economical reasons, but I will now delay a few months for Stryde).

Nevertheless this is just my opinion and I wish you the absolute best in your distraction and recovery

No doubt the wait is much more worth it then massive fixators on you’re legs, especially if you are on the younger side.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on December 29, 2020, 11:54:01 AM
This is my pictures one day post op. The blue marker is where the bone was cut.

https://ibb.co/JR9Ctnx
https://ibb.co/FxsRW1m
https://ibb.co/Ht7npSH
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on December 29, 2020, 11:58:11 AM
These are my X-Rays. I start lengthening tomorrow at 6am.

https://ibb.co/TvJyj98
https://ibb.co/88j1j65
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Skyisthelimit on December 29, 2020, 11:59:25 AM
Thank you for the pictures, Jamesy!! The diary really comes to life with pictures and videos in it!
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on December 29, 2020, 12:02:02 PM
My ROM for now.

https://ibb.co/Bcq64Xq
https://ibb.co/kSMN3nX
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: more on December 29, 2020, 12:06:03 PM
Your approach for nail insertion is time saving for dr. but bad for you
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on December 29, 2020, 12:15:38 PM
Below are the vitamins I am taking including the 2 drops of devit 3 every 14 days. My favorite pain killer would be the Novalgin which is not addictive and relieves the minor pains I have during the day. Coraspin once a day as the blood thinner, dolorex is good for pain but I do not use it as it is bad for bone healing, and the contramal is a very strong pain killer so unless I am in a lot of pain I will try not to use that as much as I can.

https://ibb.co/kMs23kR
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Apollo676 on December 29, 2020, 06:24:18 PM
What about recovery? Some of us only want one surgery and recover as optimally and as fast as possible. We've seen people jogging 4 month post of with Stryde, sprinting 6 months post op.

As you can imagine by reading the op's diary, getting back from being crippled is very huge for your mental health. Imagine still limping around after 1 year post op? But hey! You saved 50k right??

Of course,but 50k surgery is impossible for many,and will take years of saving to get there,16-20k on the other hand,it's feasible,that's why i'm here,Lon method is still the most used method in the world,and though of course stryde will always be better,i believe Lon method with an experienced surgeon can still be a good way,my choice is for the moment Dr Giotikas for stryde,but in the meantime ( probably several years ),i'm considering every possibility,just imagine for a sec,if this Buldu doc is capable,i could realize my dream in the coming 6 months,with stryde method i would probably be waiting 5 years or more,it's worth considering
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Apollo676 on December 29, 2020, 06:26:11 PM
These are my X-Rays. I start lengthening tomorrow at 6am.

https://ibb.co/TvJyj98
https://ibb.co/88j1j65

Be brave man,keep your goal in mind,3 months and it will be worthwhile in the long run,you're already in,can't go back now :)
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: fritz on December 29, 2020, 08:08:32 PM
These are my X-Rays. I start lengthening tomorrow at 6am.

https://ibb.co/TvJyj98
https://ibb.co/88j1j65

Hi Jamesy998, firstly good luck with your process! I wanted to ask if there's already a few mm gap right after the surgery? I mean, do you actually gain 1-2 mm during the surgery? It seems like that at your X-Rays.   
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on December 30, 2020, 10:20:28 AM
Hi Jamesy998, firstly good luck with your process! I wanted to ask if there's already a few mm gap right after the surgery? I mean, do you actually gain 1-2 mm during the surgery? It seems like that at your X-Rays.

I have no idea to be honest with you.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on December 30, 2020, 10:21:41 AM
Be brave man,keep your goal in mind,3 months and it will be worthwhile in the long run,you're already in,can't go back now :)

Only thing I ever worry about is ROM, that is all. Other than that I feel great. Maybe my ROM is horrid because I am only 7 days post op.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on December 31, 2020, 03:10:31 AM
Hi James
I live in the UK and seriously considering LON fermos lengthening to 7 or 7.5cm in turkey.
How much does device stick out? Ill have to go back to UK and was wondering if I could wear baggy joggers?
Also I have a job and can work from home until we are told by the government to go back to work (probably summer) so I think i can get away with having the surgery and not going into work. Do you think you are able to sit on a chair for a few hours with rests after a couple of weeks since the surgery?

There are people that have done it before but it seems barbaric. They do not stick out too much but the pants wont exactly hide them because the devices are rather tall.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Apollo676 on January 01, 2021, 03:33:49 PM
Hey man,how are you doing ?Did you start lenghtining ?
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on January 01, 2021, 03:33:58 PM
01/01/2021
- Happy New Year everyone, hopefully it will go well. Just a little update since last post. In terms of ROM, nothing has changed at all. Since my ROM at the moment is so bad I will be calling a physiotherapist in the next day or two to start a program. Right knee is still giving me trouble in the sense that it bends less then the left knee. I have not been doing much walking lately other than to go to the bathroom or stretch. My scars are very itchy which is a good thing since it means they are healing up.

So far I have lengthened about 4mm. Zero pain other than the occasional sore feeling around the pinsites. The ROM is the only thing that has me worried for the time being. Always wondered if one could go through entire lengthening with limited ROM and then work on it in the phase after the lengthening during consolidation?

Watch Netflix all day and doing some study work as I am a part time student. That is pretty much it, I rebandage every three days and religiously clean my pinsite areas with alcohol to avoid any infection.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: more on January 01, 2021, 05:16:19 PM
ROM is big problem with femur LON
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on January 01, 2021, 05:31:05 PM
ROM is big problem with femur LON

Yeah found out the hard way, is what it is. Some people have fantastic ROM while doing LON femurs. With training it will get better
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: BelowTheMean on January 01, 2021, 06:07:57 PM
Doing PT is a good idea anyway. It definitely helps to have someone else stretch you since you can't do everything by yourself. Glad to hear that your pain levels are tolerable now!
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Activatedxx on January 02, 2021, 09:23:33 AM
I have a genuine curiosity. What made you choose buldu? How come people don’t use leonid in Russia recently? I was considering him parihar or buldu, he’s very experienced and also a lot less, and that area of Russia appears to be very safe after research althoughy cold.

I currently have enough to pay for stryde after years of saving but do not want to spend all my savings on one thing. Just trying to figure out if I should just end up using stryde or doing LON femur with one of these doctors. What attracted you to buldu personally?
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on January 02, 2021, 11:14:42 AM
I have a genuine curiosity. What made you choose buldu? How come people don’t use leonid in Russia recently? I was considering him parihar or buldu, he’s very experienced and also a lot less, and that area of Russia appears to be very safe after research althoughy cold.

I currently have enough to pay for stryde after years of saving but do not want to spend all my savings on one thing. Just trying to figure out if I should just end up using stryde or doing LON femur with one of these doctors. What attracted you to buldu personally?

Anyone that takes a look at Buldus resume will know why he is an attractive option for something like this, along with the patient care he provides. I emailed Kulesh in Russia and got a reply in like 3 months, did not give off the most professional vibe to me which made me lose my interest. Also the frames in Russia are way too big so it is why I changed my mind completely. If you cannot live without LL and it is something you genuinely need to live a better life then get stryde. LON Femurs practically leaves you more or less with near zero mobility. 
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on January 03, 2021, 09:14:01 AM
Happy New year. Are you staying in Istanbul the whole time or traveling back home.
Also do you think you are at a stage where you could 1. walk around with just crutches. 2. drive 3. if you had a job working from home, be able to work sitting on a desk. 4. be able to support yourself without a carer.
I am deeply considering taking the operation while we are in tier 4, but wondering how it will affect working from home, as I have a career and house.

Yes, I am staying in Istanbul for the whole distraction period plus frame removal, then for the remainder of the consolidation I will be going home.

1. Varies from person to person but for the first 2 weeks you will 100% not be able to use only crutches.

2. There are a good few lads over here in Istanbul who drive during lengthening so I guess you could.

3. I work from home. Sometimes from the bed and every now and if your ROM/ knee bending is good then you can sit at a desk too without any issues.

4. I have a full time carer with me. I need help sitting and getting up from the toilet for example as my apartment does not have the support on the seat.

First two weeks or so after the operation it will be difficult, it was for me anyway. I notice myself becoming a bit more confident with the fixators which will enable you to do a little bit more. Personally I think a carer would be nice or to at least share a place with someone because if anything were to happen, you would need help.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on January 05, 2021, 05:16:02 PM
05/01/2021 - Had my very first physiotherapy session and it went great. I bent my knee 90 degrees and although it was painful it was also like a great achievement for me. I will be having physio for the next two days as well. Trying to get in as much physio as I possibly can in the week as this is the MOST important stage of the lengthening. The pain that is more prevalent in the right knee is because my left leg is generally stronger than my right and most of the pain is psychological as the therapist has told me.

I will be taking Contramal 50mg before every session just to make it easier.

Overall I am satisfied with the progress and everything is looking good.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: SpeedDialer on January 06, 2021, 07:11:50 PM
Since you will get significant scarring from externals, are you looking into medical tattoos or other kinds of tattoos to conceal them? I think that Medium Drink of Water said it might look weird to only have tatooos on lower legs but I'm unsure where else makes sense to put them to balance it out 
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on January 07, 2021, 01:00:54 AM
Since you will get significant scarring from externals, are you looking into medical tattoos or other kinds of tattoos to conceal them? I think that Medium Drink of Water said it might look weird to only have tatooos on lower legs but I'm unsure where else makes sense to put them to balance it out

Yes, tattoos. I already have several tattoos on my body so I highly doubt it would look strange to add a bit more on my legs. Although I can just say I fixed a “bow legs” type of deformity when I was younger.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on January 07, 2021, 03:38:00 PM
07/01/2021 - I am now on Day 14 officially and while my knee bending is nothing near amazing, I did manage 60 degrees which is a big improvement from last time.
I notice that my legs now feel much stronger than before, due to some time passing from surgery and also from my 3 day in a row physiotherapy sessions lasting 1.5 hrs each day. Pain has been manageable and has not bothered me too much in the past two days, I take some painkillers before physio to get the full workout with minimum pain.

My appetite has gotten much better as I am no longer feeling depressed post op. I have also been in contact with other patients here and they have been amazing help for my mental health, it is easier when you can sympathise your issues during LL with other real life patients around you.

Currently just shy of the 1CM mark and I feel zero pain and my muscle are not acting up or anything, lets hope it stays that way.
My right knee is giving me a lot more issues than the left, in fact my left knee is perfectly fine. My physiotherapist and Dr have said that this is all normal and other patients are experiencing the exact same thing.

My only problem at the moment is the knee bending and I can see it improving little by little each day. I get up three times per day so far and walk with my walker for about 15-20 minutes which I plan to increase as I get stronger and taller.

When I walk my legs are perfectly aligned and my physio therapist was also impressed. Continuing with my good posture and straight walking I should be able to avoid any kind of duckass or other walking related issues that may arise.

ps. When I said my knee bending was better than last time what I meant was that I managed to comfortably  stay on the 60 degree bent position for a long time while the 90 degree bend that I did the previous day was momentarily with a lot of pain.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Tokito_Ohma on January 07, 2021, 06:21:39 PM
nice to see you getting into the flow of things! Hope you go smoothly all the way!
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on January 07, 2021, 06:57:44 PM
nice to see you getting into the flow of things! Hope you go smoothly all the way!

Cheers mate!
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: SpeedDialer on January 08, 2021, 05:28:36 PM
What's your advice for dealing with the depression post op?
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on January 08, 2021, 05:31:44 PM
What's your advice for dealing with the depression post op?

For me it was definitely getting the hell out of the hospital as soon as possible. After that you just need to give it time because no matter what way you look at it, you lose the main function of your legs and that takes time to process.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Apollo676 on January 10, 2021, 01:24:27 PM
Hey man,how is it going ? You lengthen from home ? Are you in a hostel or do you have your place in Istanbul ? How is the pain so far,are you able to work/study day to day ?
Cheers
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on January 10, 2021, 05:12:37 PM
Hey man,how is it going ? You lengthen from home ? Are you in a hostel or do you have your place in Istanbul ? How is the pain so far,are you able to work/study day to day ?
Cheers

I am at an AirbBnb and I study from home. It is easier to stay in Istanbul for the lengthening. I might move elsewhere for the consolidation period just until I am walking good enough to return home.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Kal el on January 10, 2021, 06:09:20 PM
Hey jamsey how much will it cost per month to stay in istanbul in terms of US dollars.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on January 10, 2021, 06:15:23 PM
Hey jamsey how much will it cost per month to stay in istanbul in terms of US dollars.

400-600 dollars, rent and food. X-Rays will run you about 100 dollars or so every 3 weeks to a month and then there is also physiotherapy which is 100 dollars give or take for 3 one hour sessions.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Bob on January 10, 2021, 06:47:41 PM
Does Dr Halil Buldu do leg deformity correction (valgus and procurvatum deformity correction) with external ilizarov device?
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Skyisthelimit on January 10, 2021, 07:21:58 PM
Does Dr Halil Buldu do leg deformity correction (valgus and procurvatum deformity correction) with external ilizarov device?
This is the one reasons I’ve never been completely comfortable in deciding to go with Buldu... he uses monorail to fix the deformities cases he gets, which no other reputable doctor does. You can check them in his instagram pages (LiveLifeTaller, limblengtheningturkey). I don’t think I’ve seen one post of a patient with Ilizarov, all monorails.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Apollo676 on January 10, 2021, 09:37:27 PM
He actually do Ilizarov,but i'm quite sure it's just not the most use method anymore,especially on his instagram page,that's not something he can make promotion off
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Apollo676 on January 10, 2021, 09:39:32 PM
I am at an AirbBnb and I study from home. It is easier to stay in Istanbul for the lengthening. I might move elsewhere for the consolidation period just until I am walking good enough to return home.

That's nice,how is the pain level,i mean can you still work on a daily basis,let's say on your computer ? I'm looking to do the same surgery as yours,i was wondering as i work from my computer,if i could get enough sleep and enough energy to keep working correctly,do you move out of your place to get reeducation ?
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Body Builder on January 10, 2021, 09:55:42 PM
External femurs (or LON, no difference), even with monorails, is a very very bad decision. No respectable doctor does it.
Monorails have huge screws that cut through your skin and muscles.
On my tibias there was hardly muscle on the inside side I have put them to tear it but on femurs there are muscles everywhere which will have big tears from the nails which also would be very painful after some cms.

I wish you luck from the bottom of my heart but you should really have done external monorails on tibias, not femurs.
It would have been 10 times easier at least and without much risks, especially if you did LON to not risk any misalignment which is very usual with monorails.

For any other who thinks about external femurs to reduce cost, external devices are only for tibias. Period.

Keep strong.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on January 12, 2021, 03:52:59 AM
External femurs (or LON, no difference), even with monorails, is a very very bad decision. No respectable doctor does it.
Monorails have huge screws that cut through your skin and muscles.
On my tibias there was hardly muscle on the inside side I have put them to tear it but on femurs there are muscles everywhere which will have big tears from the nails which also would be very painful after some cms.

I wish you luck from the bottom of my heart but you should really have done external monorails on tibias, not femurs.
It would have been 10 times easier at least and without much risks, especially if you did LON to not risk any misalignment which is very usual with monorails.

For any other who thinks about external femurs to reduce cost, external devices are only for tibias. Period.

Keep strong.

Thanks Bodybuilder. Unfortunately I had to learn this the hard way. If I knew the pain levels and the discomfort of externals on my femurs going in I would have never done it but whats done is done and I will aim for a proper recovery.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on January 12, 2021, 04:07:11 AM
12/01/2021 - 7am at the moment and as always at this time my pain level is about 4-5/10. What I have found is that the more physiotherapy I do, the less pain that I get for the rest of that day. The pain killers do squat if you don’t do physio. Yesterday was a good day for me as the physiotherapy gave me massive relief as I was suffering 7/10 pain the days before which completely made me reconsider even lengthening further. Now I have planned to do physio 7 days a week to avoid any complications, to improve my knee bending and also avoid any pain caused the the stretching.

My walking with the walker is perfect I must say, No duckas s or anything as such. I have great posture and since I train my legs even in bed with while I rest, that ensures me that I am not weak on my feet when I get up.

My right knee is causing me 40% more pain than my left for the time being and there is also bruising by the knee. Other patients have had this and would be considered normal I guess so it does not bother me anymore in terms of possible complications, just the pain makes it 10X harder for my right leg at physiotherapy. As bodybuilder has mentioned above, externals are only to be done on tibias and after experiencing this first hand I completely agree with him and I ask anyone else who is considering this surgery please just do the tibias, it is much more bearable and comfortable. I will post a picture of my X-Ray on Wednesday which would be the first X-Ray since I have started lengthening. Hopefully the bone consolidation is normal as I do not think I will be able to handle lengthening 1.5mm per day instead of just 1.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Frederico86 on January 12, 2021, 01:59:35 PM
Hi James

I was reading that you mentioned couple of times that patients that do the LON method on the femurs are not mobile at all and that it is barbaric.

I am a living example that this is not the case. The first 2 weeks are really hard and you are not mobile but this is the case either on tibia or femurs. I have done my surgery on the 21th of november and I have lenghtened 5 cm so far and guess what I am more mobile than all Tibia patients here of Dr Halil Buldu.I am even able to walk without crutches allthough I  still I use them for safety reasons.

I am just writing this cause its important for others to see that there are different point of views and you might have desencouraged someone by saying that femur LON is barbaric .

I will also provide some videos of myself so you guys can check my progress

Cheers and great week!
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: ghkid2019 on January 12, 2021, 02:07:55 PM
Hi James

I was reading that you mentioned couple of times that patients that do the LON method on the femurs are not mobile at all and that it is barbaric.

I am a living example that this is not the case. The first 2 weeks are really hard and you are not mobile but this is the case either on tibia or femurs. I have done my surgery on the 21th of november and I have lenghtened 5 cm so far and guess what I am more mobile than all Tibia patients here of Dr Halil Buldu.I am even able to walk without crutches allthough I  still I use them for safety reasons.

I am just writing this cause its important for others to see that there are different point of views and you might have desencouraged someone by saying that femur LON is barbaric .

I will also provide some videos of myself so you guys can check my progress

Cheers and great week!
@Frederico86
Gotta put a big fat DISCLAIMER first though that you're literally working for Buldu and getting paid  ;)

@Jamesy998
Thank you for warning us that external femur is really tough and isn't as easy as it appears. Hope you push through and do well though :)
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Frederico86 on January 12, 2021, 02:11:42 PM
Hey listen why should I be lying ??? Are you saying that I am inventing some bull   just to get patients for Dr Halil Buldu ?

You really think that Im gonna play with peoples health and write lies to make money so basically you are calling me a liar right ?

Shut your f.... mouth dude first of all I am a normal patient of Dr Halil Buldu and I am just sharing my experience here Im not some salesman or whatever

Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: ghkid2019 on January 12, 2021, 02:15:17 PM
Hey listen why should I be lying ??? Are you saying that I am inventing some bull   just to get patients for Dr Halil Buldu ?

You really think that Im gonna play with peoples health and write lies to make money so basically you are calling me a liar right ?

Shut your f.... mouth dude first of all I am a normal patient of Dr Halil Buldu and I am just sharing my experience here Im not some salesman or whatever

Oh ok, sorry about that Mr. International Patient Advisor for Dr. Buldu. My apologies, forgive me


@Jamesy998
7 days a week of PT is hardcore. But probably good for post-surgery trauma and you seem to know what you're doing. Keep fighting, it's good you want to do more pt during day to reduce pain later on, its a legit correlation


Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Frederico86 on January 12, 2021, 02:18:55 PM
listen just be quiet little idiot and wait for 2030 to do your surgery with Paley as you are planning ok but don't try to difame me by calling me a salesman of Dr Buldu
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Skyisthelimit on January 12, 2021, 02:22:43 PM
Hey listen why should I be lying ??? Are you saying that I am inventing some bull   just to get patients for Dr Halil Buldu ?

You really think that Im gonna play with peoples health and write lies to make money so basically you are calling me a liar right ?

Shut your f.... mouth dude first of all I am a normal patient of Dr Halil Buldu and I am just sharing my experience here Im not some salesman or whatever
Bro, literally two weeks after your surgery you mentioned in your diary that you became an international adviser for Buldu... that kinda makes you a salesman since you’re earning some type of commission or discount on your procedure. You became completely bised once this happened because that’s your job. Don’t get all worked up with Ghkid for stating a fact, “You work for Dr. Buldu”. That’s all he was saying.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Frederico86 on January 12, 2021, 02:26:21 PM
Ok but anyway he is indirectly saying that the  information I provide is not thrustfull as I could be lying to make people come to do the surgery that makes me f... angry cause I'm not doing that !!!! All I am doing is sharing my personal experience is it my fault if I am having a very good outcome and if I am mobile doing LON on femurs ?
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Skyisthelimit on January 12, 2021, 02:40:28 PM
Ok but anyway he is indirectly saying that the  information I provide is not thrustfull as I could be lying to make people come to do the surgery that makes me f... angry cause I'm not doing that !!!! All I am doing is sharing my personal experience is it my fault if I am having a very good outcome and if I am mobile doing LON on femurs ?
Of course, I understand your point. I’m extremely grateful for your updates and just for sharing your journey with us. Just try to understand that there are many patients that have been played for fools in Turkey and ended up losing a lot. Mostly these type of bad news are linked to Wannabetaller. Still, its also hard to blindly trust patients who turn so quickly into international advisors for their doctors, since it’s literally their job to attract patients. Also, the amount of cms that your doctor allows is a little frightening. Another international adviser was that guy “Meck” that we never heard of again. Who knows how he’s doing, but every time someone tried to say that his doctor was crazy for letting him lengthenen that much he would get defensive and unreasonable. Try to understand other points of view as well. It’s also hard to pick up on indirect comments without being in front of the person. What I took from his message was that you should disclaim that you work for Buldu since that might affect your judgement when speaking about him.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Frederico86 on January 12, 2021, 03:03:12 PM

You are a very polite guy and you know how to express yourself. I just want you guys to know that I am being 100% transparent and honest !!!

It just hurts me and makes me angry if someone thinks that I am telling lies .

I didnt meant to be rude it just came out of me Ghkid made me really angry bro....

Here are 2 videos of me walking just to show you that there are people that are mobile doing LON on femurs :


https://streamable.com/xgmky9

https://streamable.com/wq9s2u

Kind regards


Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Frederico86 on January 12, 2021, 03:04:02 PM
You are a very polite guy and you know how to express yourself. I just want you guys to know that I am being 100% transparent and honest !!!

It just hurts me and makes me angry if someone thinks that I am telling lies .

I didnt meant to be rude it just came out of me Ghkid made me really angry bro....

Here are 2 videos of me walking just to show you that there are people that are mobile doing LON on femurs :


https://streamable.com/xgmky9

https://streamable.com/wq9s2u

Kind regards
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Frederico86 on January 12, 2021, 03:06:03 PM
Of course, I understand your point. I’m extremely grateful for your updates and just for sharing your journey with us. Just try to understand that there are many patients that have been played for fools in Turkey and ended up losing a lot. Mostly these type of bad news are linked to Wannabetaller. Still, its also hard to blindly trust patients who turn so quickly into international advisors for their doctors, since it’s literally their job to attract patients. Also, the amount of cms that your doctor allows is a little frightening. Another international adviser was that guy “Meck” that we never heard of again. Who knows how he’s doing, but every time someone tried to say that his doctor was crazy for letting him lengthenen that much he would get defensive and unreasonable. Try to understand other points of view as well. It’s also hard to pick up on indirect comments without being in front of the person. What I took from his message was that you should disclaim that you work for Buldu since that might affect your judgement when speaking about him.

You are a very polite guy and you know how to express yourself. I just want you guys to know that I am being 100% transparent and honest !!!

It just hurts me and makes me angry if someone thinks that I am telling lies .

I didnt meant to be rude it just came out of me Ghkid made me really angry bro....

Here are 2 videos of me walking just to show you that there are people that are mobile doing LON on femurs :


https://streamable.com/xgmky9

https://streamable.com/wq9s2u

Kind regards
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Frederico86 on January 12, 2021, 03:07:03 PM
Where can I delete messages here ?
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Apollo676 on January 12, 2021, 09:36:24 PM
External femurs (or LON, no difference), even with monorails, is a very very bad decision. No respectable doctor does it.
Monorails have huge screws that cut through your skin and muscles.
On my tibias there was hardly muscle on the inside side I have put them to tear it but on femurs there are muscles everywhere which will have big tears from the nails which also would be very painful after some cms.

I wish you luck from the bottom of my heart but you should really have done external monorails on tibias, not femurs.
It would have been 10 times easier at least and without much risks, especially if you did LON to not risk any misalignment which is very usual with monorails.

For any other who thinks about external femurs to reduce cost, external devices are only for tibias. Period.

Keep strong.

Hey,but in the end,tibias are quite hard to lenghten in the end no ? I heard that femurs can recover much better overall,is LON really this bad for femurs ? I mean before stryde and even precise,how could people do limb lengthening ?
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Body Builder on January 12, 2021, 10:42:14 PM
Hey,but in the end,tibias are quite hard to lenghten in the end no ? I heard that femurs can recover much better overall,is LON really this bad for femurs ? I mean before stryde and even precise,how could people do limb lengthening ?
No, if you stick to about 6.5 cm tibias are very easy to lengthen and with less pain than femurs.
And yes, LON and anything that has external fixators is bad for femurs for many many reasons. It is completely barbaric and also there is muscle tearing due to pins which especially with monorails huge.

Before stryde and precise, people used mechanical internal nails for femurs. Many doctors like Betz and Guichet use them even today.
But never externals was a good option for femurs, thats why only doctors in third wolrld countries are using them for LL.

On tibias on the other hand, externals only was and is the most usual choice and if you don't mind having some fixators on your legs for some months, it is by far the most painless and risk free way to do LL.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Apollo676 on January 12, 2021, 10:48:40 PM
Interesting,i'm planning to go 5cm on tibias,actually,i was planning to do both in the long run,femurs and tibias,to reach +13cm,8cm on femurs and 5cm on tibias,was thinking of going LON femurs,but i'm might get tibias first then

I heard terrible things about Guichet actually,even if it is internal,how they lenghten the bone itself without external fixators ?

I guess i'll have to wait more and go stryde or precise then,it's a shame it's so expansive,50k with Giotikas,but sound better than LON femurs

Do you have any advices before actually doing this surgery ? I'm working out,i read your post saying that the more muscle on legs,the more difficult LL become,so i'm considering stopping altogether working legs and focus on stretching instead.

What are the more budget-friendly LL alternatives you know of,that are quite safe as well ? Giotikas from Greece seems like a good choice,and he is doing LON on tibias actually

Problem is that my tibias are actually in good proportions regarding my femurs,+5cm would make them longer or equal i think

Overall i'm 165cm and i also have a wingspan of 175cm,heard that's important,i don't see why lol
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Apollo676 on January 14, 2021, 05:06:47 PM
Hey Jamesy,how things are going ?
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Frederico86 on January 14, 2021, 05:10:42 PM
oh man I was really adamant to do femurs to go up to 7.5cm to 8cm and go to turkey for the opp with dr halil once lockdown in UK is over.

I really need this surgery, i think it can change my life. but why do you say barbaric? i will never have strong legs again or make them stronger or i cant run again?

Frederico, this recovery your experiencing that jamesy isnt, is this possible if i went home after 2 weeks and then travelled back.

Hey bro ,

Do you mind to add me on my whatsapp so I can share some of my experience with LON femur ? People in this forum are way to negative and I don't want to end up having argues .

I bought a turkish SIM card for my lengthening phase in Istanbul

This is my whatsapp :  +90 535 038 6775

Just for your information guys im not working for Dr Halil Buldu and I am heading to Krakow/Poland end of february. But I don't see any problem to help other people to achieve their dreams cause I am also achieving my dream and I didn't let anyone destroy my dreams with negativity.

Kind regards

Frederico
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Frederico86 on January 14, 2021, 05:45:16 PM
This message goes to all negative guys  here in the forum that write as if they were doctors with such assertiveness and conviction. Most of them haven´t even done Limb Lenghtening surgery to begin with.

You bastards almost destroyed my dream and I am so thankfull that I thrusted my intuition to get the surgery done and did not let this negativness influence on my decision. I am very thankfull for having had the opportunity to talk  to Hakon a guy from Norway who did his surgery with Dr Buldu and took my decision based on his experience.

 Im very happy with my outcome so far and thanks god I haven't faced any issue so far except for the normal things cause LL is obviouly not an easy operation.

So to all of you that have the dream to get this surgery done go for it . Each single person and organism is different. Some people have harder time due to their organism others struggle less it is hard to generalize. I can see this very clearly being here in the hotel among 9 other patients.

Greetings from Istanbul

Frederico

Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Apollo676 on January 14, 2021, 06:03:17 PM
This message goes to all negative guys  here in the forum that write as if they were doctors with such assertiveness and conviction. Most of them haven´t even done Limb Lenghtening surgery to begin with.

You bastards almost destroyed my dream and I am so thankfull that I thrusted my intuition to get the surgery done and did not let this negativness influence on my decision. I am very thankfull for having had the opportunity to talk  to Hakon a guy from Norway who did his surgery with Dr Buldu and took my decision based on his experience.

 Im very happy with my outcome so far and thanks god I haven't faced any issue so far except for the normal things cause LL is obviouly not an easy operation.

So to all of you that have the dream to get this surgery done go for it . Each single person and organism is different. Some people have harder time due to their organism others struggle less it is hard to generalize. I can see this very clearly being here in the hotel among 9 other patients.

Greetings from Istanbul

Frederico

Hey,that's a major surgery,we just want to be in the best hands possible and have a good recovery,Dr Buldu looks like a fine surgeon,but there is reason to be cautious here,indeed,LON femurs are not a good idea and the scarring and the damages its doing to your muscles are substantial,and the fact he actually let his patients lenghten beyond safety limits ( like 9.5cm on femurs ) is a bit concerning,other than that,he was at one point a member of wannabetaller team which turned out to be a scam and left several guys severely crippled,that's concerning

Wish you the best overall,i'm still considering him for lon tibias maybe,i would be more than happy to be proven wrong
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Frederico86 on January 14, 2021, 07:06:12 PM
Thanks bro for the wishes

Dr Halil Buldu has nothing to do with wannabetaller . As far as I know wannabetaller has very bad reputation and crippled many people.

You are absolutely right to be cautious and its very important to be in hands of a good surgeon.

Im not gonna make advertisment here for Dr Buldu cause im not a salesman but as a patient I can say that he has been excellent so far

Regards

Frederico

Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Frederico86 on January 14, 2021, 07:11:16 PM
Hey,that's a major surgery,we just want to be in the best hands possible and have a good recovery,Dr Buldu looks like a fine surgeon,but there is reason to be cautious here,indeed,LON femurs are not a good idea and the scarring and the damages its doing to your muscles are substantial,and the fact he actually let his patients lenghten beyond safety limits ( like 9.5cm on femurs ) is a bit concerning,other than that,he was at one point a member of wannabetaller team which turned out to be a scam and left several guys severely crippled,that's concerning

Wish you the best overall,i'm still considering him for lon tibias maybe,i would be more than happy to be proven wrong

Thanks bro for the wishes

Dr Halil Buldu has nothing to do with wannabetaller . As far as I know wannabetaller has very bad reputation and crippled many people.

You are absolutely right to be cautious and its very important to be in hands of a good surgeon.

Im not gonna make advertisment here for Dr Buldu cause im not a salesman but as a patient I can say that he has been excellent so far

Regards

Frederico
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Tokito_Ohma on January 16, 2021, 05:56:01 AM
Hey bro!

I wanna ask you more about Istanbul since I want to do LL with Dr.Halil Buldu later this year:
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Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Longer on January 16, 2021, 10:05:37 AM
Istanbul is the biggest city of Europe, it's not on Mars.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: asian on January 16, 2021, 11:10:26 AM
How are you doing James?  Thank you for sharing your personal experience which is always welcomed on the forum. Ignore some negative messages.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Activatedxx on January 16, 2021, 11:21:07 PM
12/01/2021 - 7am at the moment and as always at this time my pain level is about 4-5/10. What I have found is that the more physiotherapy I do, the less pain that I get for the rest of that day. The pain killers do squat if you don’t do physio. Yesterday was a good day for me as the physiotherapy gave me massive relief as I was suffering 7/10 pain the days before which completely made me reconsider even lengthening further. Now I have planned to do physio 7 days a week to avoid any complications, to improve my knee bending and also avoid any pain caused the the stretching.

My walking with the walker is perfect I must say, No duckas s or anything as such. I have great posture and since I train my legs even in bed with while I rest, that ensures me that I am not weak on my feet when I get up.

My right knee is causing me 40% more pain than my left for the time being and there is also bruising by the knee. Other patients have had this and would be considered normal I guess so it does not bother me anymore in terms of possible complications, just the pain makes it 10X harder for my right leg at physiotherapy. As bodybuilder has mentioned above, externals are only to be done on tibias and after experiencing this first hand I completely agree with him and I ask anyone else who is considering this surgery please just do the tibias, it is much more bearable and comfortable. I will post a picture of my X-Ray on Wednesday which would be the first X-Ray since I have started lengthening. Hopefully the bone consolidation is normal as I do not think I will be able to handle lengthening 1.5mm per day instead of just 1.


Hey James, I want to ask. When they remove the externals for LON femurs do they remove the screws in the femur bone that’s connected to the nail?

Do they eventually remove the nail and screws used for LON?
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Tartar on January 18, 2021, 02:19:17 AM
Hi James how’s going? Keep strong ;)
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Apollo676 on January 25, 2021, 07:01:34 PM
Hey James i hope everything is alright for you man,i'm looking for a reply everyday from you,i hope you're in a better situation now,keep us in touch please  :)
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 07, 2021, 06:16:03 PM
07/02/2021

Currently at 4.5cm and I have no pain at all. Pain levels are to the very minimum. The most difficult part of the journey for me was at the beginning but now the pains are gone, my knee bending is at almost 90 degrees and I walk with crutches now to the park, ect. I honestly thought to myself at the start that things would only become more difficult but once I started physiotherapy, daily stretching a few times a day and really got the knee bending, everything became easier whether it was travelling by car, taking a cab to the park or whatever anyone needs in daily life.

The only pain medication I am currently using is gerlandine-K and I have only taken that once to help one discomfort in my back unrelated to LL just to sleep a little more comfortably, but Dr, Buldus assistant did get me two packages of the pain meds just in case. This is one thing I have noticed in the past month or so since I am here, everyone is extremely responsive including Dr. Buldu himself. I remember on the 1st of FEB I had a minor infection by my pinsite, I text Dr. Buldu at 1am and he was still able to respond immediately and he came by the apartment the next day to patch things up. It's a good feeling to know that you are in safe hands and the doctor is involved in more than just the operation but also the aftercare of the patient which is one of the most crucial aspects of this procedure.

Now, coming on the the highlight of my month. It was indeed quite boring and boring is exactly what you want in a procedure like this, no pain, physiotherapy, short walks and Netflix. Other than all that once i got my X-ray done at home (yes, they come to your apartment to get your x-ray done) I was told by Dr. buldu that my bone healing was perfect, I briefly started to lengthen 1.25mm per day but the pain increased so I thought it was best to stick with 1mm.

If anyone has anymore more questions or is interested in any details pm me,

Cheers,
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Apollo676 on February 07, 2021, 07:22:42 PM
Hey man was worry about you,i tried to reach out livelifetaller,they talked about a guy named Hakon,wasn't sure he was you
Glad to hear everything is okay for you,feel free to share some pictures or x-ray so we can keep up your recovery :)
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 07, 2021, 07:36:32 PM
Hey man was worry about you,i tried to reach out livelifetaller,they talked about a guy named Hakon,wasn't sure he was you
Glad to hear everything is okay for you,feel free to share some pictures or x-ray so we can keep up your recovery :)

Everything is great man, LL is a breeze. The only thing I miss the most though is sleeping on my side and a full sauna bath maybe even a jacuzzi haha
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Apollo676 on February 07, 2021, 08:03:13 PM
No nerve pain ? Last time we spoke you were not to kind on LON method for femurs,i'm glad everything is fine for you
How much did you pay ? I saw they offered a package for 20k covering all the treatment,x-ray,hostel and so on,did you went for this or you have your own place in Istanbul ? How much do you pay in a month ?
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 07, 2021, 08:24:20 PM
No nerve pain ? Last time we spoke you were not to kind on LON method for femurs,i'm glad everything is fine for you
How much did you pay ? I saw they offered a package for 20k covering all the treatment,x-ray,hostel and so on,did you went for this or you have your own place in Istanbul ? How much do you pay in a month ?

There are sometimes shocks of nerve pain but nothing severe, they are annoying at most. At the beginning was my so called adaptation period and since I was not used to wearing frames I was also in a state of shock but now I feel much better. The first like 2-3 weeks the pain is very much there and I felt every nerve but now absolutely no pain. At night I do not sleep, I prefer to sleep around 4 am and when I am in bed for a bit too long I can feel my knee area kind of acting up, I do not know the correct term for this but I can assure you it is nothing serious. What I do for that is wrap a t shirt and use it as a sort of knee brace which deadens the very minor annoyance.

I am renting my own apartment and I pay 600 euro for the 1 bedroom apartment right in the city centre. All other costs add up to about 500 euro for me because I focus a lot on food and getting the right vitamins and the best product. Cannot think of anything else on the top of my head but if I think of anything concrete I will make sure to update you all.

One of the best things about Istanbul is the delivery services, you do not need to leave the house for anything. I even get my x-rays done at home.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Apollo676 on February 07, 2021, 09:35:49 PM
So you pay like 1k a month there,maybe their 20k package isn't that bad then,i'm wondering if they give supplements and medication with it though,you payed 16k right ? Does it include the physio ? About that,how is it going for you,you train everyday ? How was your flexibility before the op ?
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 07, 2021, 10:14:44 PM
So you pay like 1k a month there,maybe their 20k package isn't that bad then,i'm wondering if they give supplements and medication with it though,you payed 16k right ? Does it include the physio ? About that,how is it going for you,you train everyday ? How was your flexibility before the op ?

I am a swimmer and my flexibility has always been very good to be honest. In regard to the medication and physio that would come out of your own pocket as far as I know but you have to ask directly with Dr. Buldus team.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Apollo676 on February 08, 2021, 03:09:40 PM
How about your daily routine ? Do you have enough energy and focus to study/work on your computer ? Do you go outside often or you're 24/7 in your flat ?
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 08, 2021, 03:36:51 PM
How about your daily routine ? Do you have enough energy and focus to study/work on your computer ? Do you go outside often or you're 24/7 in your flat ?
.

My focus has been pretty good the last few weeks. Work is easy for me and it is a good time killer. I prefer not to go outside but I do sometimes to get some air. I am in the city centre and as you would imagine it is very busy so I avoid going out. This LL gave me quite the time to think about future plans too so it is not all that bad.

Month and a half left and I am finished so lets just hope it flies.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Apollo676 on February 08, 2021, 04:38:06 PM
You're going for the full 8cms ? I saw that Dr Buldu allow some patients to go beyond that,8.5/9.5cm some at 10cms
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 08, 2021, 05:25:19 PM
You're going for the full 8cms ? I saw that Dr Buldu allow some patients to go beyond that,8.5/9.5cm some at 10cms

I want 10cm, as my flexibility is really good and at almost 5cm now I feel nothing. I am 90 percent sure I can gain the full 10cm but I am taking it 1cm at a time.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Apollo676 on February 09, 2021, 11:57:46 AM
Wow thats insane man,i'm really interesting going with Dr Buldu,20k would turn LL from a dream into a reality,and i don't want to do it too late,i'm already about to turn 26yo,from what i read,it's way more preferable to do externals on tibias,however in my case i already have relatively long tibias,so it wouldn't look very nice to do +5cm on them,would almost make them like my femurs
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Deletedaccount_67574 on February 09, 2021, 12:25:58 PM
What does nerve pain feel like?
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 09, 2021, 03:01:22 PM
What does nerve pain feel like?

Pinch yourself really hard very quickly. That is what its like for me but I would imagine it is different for everyone else. Nerve pain is less painful than stretching and pinsite pains which unlike nerve pain, is always there.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 09, 2021, 03:05:09 PM
Wow thats insane man,i'm really interesting going with Dr Buldu,20k would turn LL from a dream into a reality,and i don't want to do it too late,i'm already about to turn 26yo,from what i read,it's way more preferable to do externals on tibias,however in my case i already have relatively long tibias,so it wouldn't look very nice to do +5cm on them,would almost make them like my femurs

My tibias were actually longer than my femurs so I am starting to look more in proportion now than before. I would not do tibias because if your femurs are really short in comparison than it will almost look like you are wearing lifts.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: permanentlybanned on February 09, 2021, 10:30:47 PM
My tibias were actually longer than my femurs so I am starting to look more in proportion now than before. I would not do tibias because if your femurs are really short in comparison than it will almost look like you are wearing lifts.

Really? You are 0.0001% of humans
/s

Obligatory "if you did an EOS scan, I would bet my life that your Tibias are not longer than your Femurs"

Doesn't happen in nature.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Apollo676 on February 09, 2021, 10:55:08 PM
Hey i think i saw you on livetaller instagram page,well,your legs basically,if it was you then we have similar proportions,my femurs must be like 5-8cm longer than the tibias
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 10, 2021, 02:50:28 AM
Really? You are 0.0001% of humans
/s

Obligatory "if you did an EOS scan, I would bet my life that your Tibias are not longer than your Femurs"

Doesn't happen in nature.

Not the exact measurement but you know how one looks from the front and the femur appears extremely short compared to the tibia? that was how mine appeared but on a scan yes you are right it most likely was not longer.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 10, 2021, 02:53:56 AM
Hey i think i saw you on livetaller instagram page,well,your legs basically,if it was you then we have similar proportions,my femurs must be like 5-8cm longer than the tibias

Im not on the page as far as I remember. But my sitting height is 90cm, my wingspan is 177cm. To be completely honest I wanted this surgery mostly for the proportions. Even now with almost 5cm gained my femurs still look somewhat short which is ideal since I am lengthening a lot in the coming weeks.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 10, 2021, 03:10:29 AM
Quick update for anyone that may wonder. I will not give an update for a while as there is nothing much to report, feel free to ask any questions but I will not answer for the next month or so, do not assume I am injured or otherwise in a bad state, it is simply because of the fact that this forum is contagious and the only reason I am writing this diary is for reassurance to that small percentage of decent people that need it. Some of the things I read on this forum is pathetic and gets you worried all for nothing, told my doc about a few examples and he could not hold his laughter.

Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Apollo676 on February 10, 2021, 09:03:41 AM
Totally understand it man,be sure i'm asking all these questions because i'm seriously considering this surgery myself and your doctor got my interest,who knows with better timing we could have met there already but i can't do it for now
The guy i saw on instagram,the picture was all about the legs they said he had short femurs and his starting height 1.64cm they didn't show his face or anything and it was removed actually
Overall we seem to have the same proportions that's impressive,i'm 165cm and 175cm wingspan as well
Anyway we can keep contact and talk from time to time ?
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Kal el on February 11, 2021, 10:40:35 AM
Bro check PM..wanna ask u alot of questions.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 11, 2021, 07:43:45 PM
Update into the fine details. 11/02/2021


I understand that this is going to be a very long post but I feel like all the future patients out there should know every little detail because I know if you are anything like me, you will want to know every single detail.


Let me begin with flexibility, muscle stretching, ect. When you reach 4cm(and this could be different for everyone but it was the 4cm mark for me) you will feel the tightness in your hamstrings with the main stretching pain coming from underneath the knee itself. This is particularly noticeable when you lay as straight as a plank on the bed.
Second would be near the buttocks area but it is minor compared to the knee area. This nagging pain is only noticeable for me while I do my stretching exercises so it is best to pop a pain killer before stretching, wait for it to kick in and then proceed with your physiotherapy which is what I am doing at the moment. This problem does not occur while I sleep at night mainly because I put 2 thin pieces of clothing underneath my knees (right knee mostly) for support. This escalates my knee by no more than 2cm off the bed. Be careful not to get too used to pillows, ect like some others do because then physio becomes even more painful when the leg is used to being in a bent position so much. Trust me it will benefit you in the long run. This is the advice I receive from former successful LL patients who have done LON femurs.
The stretching determines for me how my body is handling the lengthening. The more i train and the more and intense stretching I do, the pain always decreases further. When I walk with support the only pain I feel is from my right knee side pinsite which i guess is only natural since well its a road in your bloody leg. Other than that I have no pains.
The nerve pain is very rare and happens about 4 times a day lasting no more than a minute at most at this point in time. This has been like this since 3cm.

In total since commencing lengthening I have taken 1 week worth of breaks. 6 of those days as because on two occasions I decided to increase the lengthening to 1.25mm since my bone healing was perfect which was not as comfortable as 1mm, so before going back i decided to give my legs a little break, only seemed logical at the time, on the plus side it reduced the pain significantly.

I hate morning time the most simply because your legs will feel like a wooden plank. The feeling of being very stiff stops you from reaching your full ROM potential in the morning which is not a very motivating start for the day to see that your ROM is not so good at the beginning of the day.

Now here is the situation with walking and mobility. Frederico is also lengthening with us, very mobile and was an inspiration for me before I started because I seen all the guys progress on instagram which made rest me assured a little. Everyone will be able to be mobile, the reason I do not do the same is because I am a very paranoid person in general, and extremely cautious so my mind wont allow it but I can assure you my body and legs are well able.

Onto nutrition, I eat a crap load of dairy and drink 2-2.5 Litres of Kepir (a milk based yogurt drink) every single day. I take the vitamin supplements everyday too which I think I posted a picture about. My breakfast is fresh fruit from the local market. 2 oranges, strawberries, kiwi, banana and apples and of course Pomegranate. Make pomegranate your best friend it is the best source of vitamins you could possibly have. It mainly helps any kind of inflammation you might have, I eat 2 of them per day. Lunch could be anything, I usually make an egg and avocado sandwich. Dinner, pasta, chicken and beans. Once every month I buy pizza but only once a month. As you can see diet wise, it is costing me a good amount of money but at least I am getting all the good stuff in my system which helps the recovery a lot.

I get up 7 times a day for 15 minutes each as walking exercise. If I am going to the park then it is anywhere from 30 minutes to an hour. I train my leg muscles a lot and especially the glutes doing all the bed exercises I was given by my physiotherapist. Walking is vital for the recovery, it is easy to get lazy.

Sleeping which is a big part of getting stronger, especially for the PT is something I think most people struggle with at the very beginning, I did anyway which which made my experience worse especially since I am a side sleeper and I could never sleep on my back. I do not take pain meds before I sleep, I simply do a 10 minute walk around my apartment and put on a movie on the telly as a distraction. I get about 6 hours sleep every night. I sleep at about 3am and wake up 3 hours later due to my leg feeling a little bit numb so I c\kind of do a little stretch here and there in the bed and go back to sleep. 3 more hours after that and I feel refreshed. Pre LL I never liked sleeping past 7 hours anyway so my sleep has improved lately. Hopefully it stays this way.

I will write anything else I can think of but for now I think I got it all down.

Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 15, 2021, 03:26:23 PM
15/02/2021 - I had my X-Rays taken today. Right leg is at 50mm while the left is slightly behind with 48mm which means Im going to have to do about 0.5mm on the right leg and continue with 1mm on the left until it catches up.
All in all my bone healing is perfect and there is not much else to report. Pains here and there but nothing out of the ordinary.

My right foot has been getting a little sore lately which is annoying me but all the other patients have them too so nothing major there. I have been doing a little more stretching in the last three days or so because of some extra tightness and the annoying duckass.



https://ibb.co/5F8YgG3

https://ibb.co/DrH6rRy
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: 7cm on February 16, 2021, 08:35:30 AM
Hi James, How often do you have to changed your bandage ? is it every 2 days ? I plan to do the lengthening back in Germany. I was hoping I could bring some medication with me in case of infection. How many infection have you had so far if any?
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 16, 2021, 09:26:34 AM
Hi James, How often do you have to changed your bandage ? is it every 2 days ? I plan to do the lengthening back in Germany. I was hoping I could bring some medication with me in case of infection. How many infection have you had so far if any?

Every 3 days. I have had one infection so far by the left knee pins which healed up in in a few days. Infection is inevitable with externals to be honest.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 16, 2021, 10:31:27 AM
Quick update regarding my goals. I have decided not to pass the 8cm safe limit. I went into this surgery with many ideas and many unrealistic goals. The first initial surgery humbled me and made me realise just how serious this all is. Reason being why doing more than 8cm will bring me no real benefit in terms of height, 1cm does not account to that much but what it will do is possibly bring on more complications and certainly make the recovery a whole lot longer than it needs to be.

Dr Buldu agrees with this. At the consultation back in December he compared it to this analogy.
Take for example at the beginning stages of lengthening, he compared it to a car and said that the difference between say 2 and 3cm was a car going 30-40kph but when you reach 8cm and decide to go for 9, he said it is like going from 200kph to 230kph. I do not need to explain to anyone here as we already know the dangerous limits. 8cm is fine by me and will be removing the frames in a month, and staying in Istanbul for another 5 weeks to get back on my feet a little before travelling back home.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: more on February 16, 2021, 12:25:34 PM
15/02/2021 - I had my X-Rays taken today. Right leg is at 50mm while the left is slightly behind with 48mm which means Im going to have to do about 0.5mm on the right leg and continue with 1mm on the left until it catches up.
All in all my bone healing is perfect and there is not much else to report. Pains here and there but nothing out of the ordinary.

My right foot has been getting a little sore lately which is annoying me but all the other patients have them too so nothing major there. I have been doing a little more stretching in the last three days or so because of some extra tightness and the annoying duckass.



https://ibb.co/5F8YgG3

https://ibb.co/DrH6rRy
Hi
Regarding x-ray , Your dr is lying , Right leg probably 4 cm and left is 3.5 cm
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 16, 2021, 12:35:14 PM
I measured myself and I am counting the mm gained for the past 50 days so you might want to get off the hash lad.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 16, 2021, 12:43:32 PM
Your approach for nail insertion is time saving for dr. but bad for you

Mate, you think you know better than Dr. Halil? I can give you X2 more successful Buldu patient recoveries than you can from any other doctor who has done LON. Buldu patients, we ALL recover, not one single average case. So kindly, get the fk off my diary.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: more on February 16, 2021, 12:45:58 PM
Mate, you think you know better than Dr. Halil? I can give you X2 more successful Buldu patient recoveries than you can from any other doctor who has done LON. Buldu patients, we ALL recover, not one single average case. So kindly, get the fk off my diary.
You are a new version of Meck
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 16, 2021, 12:50:52 PM
You are a new version of Meck

Meck overdid the lengthening against everyone else's advice. I am doing 8cm which is being done by a large portion of LLers.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 16, 2021, 12:53:35 PM
+90 (54) 5251 7234‬. Anyone else have anything bad to say about my recovery or anything else for that matter, give me a call and don't hide behind a computer screen like a rat fk.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Tartar on February 16, 2021, 12:53:48 PM
Quick update regarding my goals. I have decided not to pass the 8cm safe limit. I went into this surgery with many ideas and many unrealistic goals. The first initial surgery humbled me and made me realise just how serious this all is. Reason being why doing more than 8cm will bring me no real benefit in terms of height, 1cm does not account to that much but what it will do is possibly bring on more complications and certainly make the recovery a whole lot longer than it needs to be.

Dr Buldu agrees with this. At the consultation back in December he compared it to this analogy.
Take for example at the beginning stages of lengthening, he compared it to a car and said that the difference between say 2 and 3cm was a car going 30-40kph but when you reach 8cm and decide to go for 9, he said it is like going from 200kph to 230kph. I do not need to explain to anyone here as we already know the dangerous limits. 8cm is fine by me and will be removing the frames in a month, and staying in Istanbul for another 5 weeks to get back on my feet a little before travelling back home.
That's fine, feel how your body reacts. I'm sure you'll know what is better for you hitting next cms. Every LL is very individual.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 16, 2021, 12:56:08 PM
That's fine, feel how your body reacts. I'm sure you'll know what is better for you hitting next cms. Every LL is very individual.

That was my initial thought. I feel since many get 8cm i could reach it too. Don't mind my overreaction with that More user, its just that nothing shows I am having a bad recovery and then he goes on about a bad nail insertion as well as myself being the next meck, a guy who did 18cm.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: more on February 16, 2021, 01:03:48 PM
Meck overdid the lengthening against everyone else's advice. I am doing 8cm which is being done by a large portion of LLers.
You are brainwashed by dr Baldu's  team , God bless you
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Tartar on February 16, 2021, 01:05:59 PM
That was my initial thought. I feel since many get 8cm i could reach it too. Don't mind my overreaction with that More user, its just that nothing shows I am having a bad recovery and then he goes on about a bad nail insertion as well as myself being the next meck, a guy who did 18cm.
I don't mind about brawls in the forum, I'm not here to compete with anyone.
Anyway the best suggestion I can give you is to just feel your body, as you said there's not a precise rule so it's right to have a goal but be prepared to do even something more or something less than it. Your body is the only one who can have the last word about it, you'll decide it during next weeks. 8cm is a very reasonable goal and you'll be satisfied for sure.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 16, 2021, 01:06:58 PM
I don't mind about brawls in the forum, I'm not here to compete with anyone.
Anyway the best suggestion I can give you is to just feel your body, as you said there's not a precise rule so it's right to have a goal but be prepared to do even something more or something less than it. Your body is the only one who can have the last word about it, you'll decide it during next weeks. 8cm is a very reasonable goal and you'll be satisfied for sure.

Cheers for the advice mate.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Kal el on February 16, 2021, 01:30:33 PM
LL is very very individual..i haven't done it yet but hoping to do it in the future for sure....but as far as i have researched on this forum from diaries and google including youtube i can say unless and untill u have srsly unrealistic goals (8cm in 1.5mnths) and crazy lengthening goals (more than 10cm in one segment) u shld be fine with minimal complications or no complications at all..at the end of the day there are many factors playing into this like time, money, goal but as long as u try to be on the safe side neglecting tht greedy side of urs u will do good....and try to neglect on this forum.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 16, 2021, 01:39:08 PM
LL is very very individual..i haven't done it yet but hoping to do it in the future for sure....but as far as i have researched on this forum from diaries and google including youtube i can say unless and untill u have srsly unrealistic goals (8cm in 1.5mnths) and crazy lengthening goals (more than 10cm in one segment) u shld be fine with minimal complications or no complications at all..at the end of the day there are many factors playing into this like time, money, goal but as long as u try to be on the safe side neglecting tht greedy side of urs u will do good....and try to neglect on this forum.

As I previously mentioned in my post I was humbled immediately after the surgery and my goals have been getting more and more realistic as I am lengthening.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: montahn on February 16, 2021, 07:03:33 PM
Hi Everyone, I will start by saying that I had wanted to get this surgery done for two years now and I will be as honest as I possibly can with my diary without any promotions or hidden pains in my diary, I will say it as it is.

My starting height: 163
Weight: 63kg
Caucasian male age 22

My goal is as much as my body will safely allow.

Day one, Surgery was on 23/12/2020 at 1:30pm. Before this they got my x-ray and also took my bloods,ect. I will be staying in Istanbul for the entire duration of the lengthening period. I have rented out a decent enough 1 bedroom apartment and the landlord is also quite friendly.
Anyway, as I was being brought into the surgery room I was thinking of just telling them to cancel and leaving altogether but I still went ahead with it. My surgery took 3hrs and 20 minutes as Dr Buldu had said and as I came out the anaesthesia had me shaking like hell, I was more or less blacked out for a few hrs. Immediately after the surgery I was regretting everything, I don’t mind people knowing this but I was tearing up when I looked down at my broken legs asking myself if my life before LL was even that bad. The pain was there obviously, it is not agonising but more like 5/10 pain that is always there, did not go away for me, not even with pain killers.


24/12/2020 Second day I took my first steps with Dr. Buldu, progress was horrible I thought but a few steps after a surgery like this was something. As I sat laid back on my bed Dr. Halil assured me that everything had gone well despite my pessimistic view on the internet whole situation and that I would get better day by day. That day I stood up only once and practised other leg movements on my bed.


25/12/2020 - Easily the worst Christmas anyone can wish for, the pain did not go away all day. Personally for me it was 6/10 and even though I did try and get some sleep it was only for a moment until the pain woke me up again. Stood up twice that day and also had my catheter taken out and got given this bottle to leak in which was actually rather convenient and easy to use.


26/12/2020 - Better day out of the rest, I also went to take the number two as well and which was bloody exhausting, but the standing up afterwards is the hardest part as anyone doing LON Femurs can relate. I also walked much more and was feeling a little better than before, the regret was starting to fade away. I had a normal nights sleep also which helped rest my mind.


27/12/2020 - Today I woke in the worst possible mood. Having a nice dream does not help when you wake up a cripple who cannot even take a dump without assistance, I was gloomy all morning and got a bit teary every now and again too. Used the nurse button for some pain killers as the pain was still there, (just so you all know, literally no nurses can speak english here so use a translator for any conversation you want to have) I was especially down this morning because my Knee ROM was worse than yesterday which concerned me but it went back to like it was yesterday with a bit of walking and going to the toilet. Dr. Buldu came in earlier today and he was quite satisfied with my progress. Not as fast as some but nice and average he said. Tomorrow I get out to go home which is a relief because the hospital is over the top depressing. The food is terrible too, not in the country but the hospital.


I will get on with my day now watch a movie or two and update later tomorrow after my arrival home. I might not update as much because it is a long and depressing process.

Following...
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: more on February 17, 2021, 11:02:27 AM
Mate, you think you know better than Dr. Halil? I can give you X2 more successful Buldu patient recoveries than you can from any other doctor who has done LON. Buldu patients, we ALL recover, not one single average case. So kindly, get the fk off my diary.
here is one complete diary of Baldu 's patient which is Meck , and he is recovered ,LOL , funny
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 17, 2021, 12:42:12 PM
here is one complete diary of Baldu 's patient which is Meck , and he is recovered ,LOL , funny

Get off my diary you annoying little rat.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: more on February 17, 2021, 04:39:18 PM
Get off my diary you annoying little rat.
Stop posting lies . This is open forum if you can i will too,
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: th on February 17, 2021, 04:54:55 PM
do u ever say anything positive??
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 17, 2021, 04:56:38 PM
do u ever say anything positive??

Who are you referring to?
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 17, 2021, 04:58:53 PM
Stop posting lies . This is open forum if you can i will too,

Unlike you i don't go about annoying the piss out of people like a spoiled child.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: th on February 17, 2021, 05:05:43 PM
this more guy - crazy  :-X
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 17, 2021, 05:09:49 PM
this more guy - crazy  :-X

He must have a very small pecker :D
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: th on February 17, 2021, 05:12:45 PM
he should try a mini ilizarov on his ck!!  :D
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: th on February 17, 2021, 05:13:16 PM
oc
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: more on February 17, 2021, 05:33:37 PM
if you can't talk with facts and don't have courage then you start abusing.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: th on February 17, 2021, 05:37:21 PM
a mini ilizarov would work well - may be slow regeneration tho...
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 17, 2021, 05:46:48 PM
if you can't talk with facts and don't have courage then you start abusing.

The lurker who has not even done the surgery and is criticising others progress behind a screen is talking about courage. Do you not have anything else to be doing?
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 17, 2021, 05:48:15 PM
if you can't talk with facts and don't have courage then you start abusing.

You would not even be able to look me in the eye if we met in real life.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: th on February 17, 2021, 05:49:42 PM
aye - i have checked his posts, every one is nasty...
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: more on February 17, 2021, 06:00:07 PM
Talk with facts  not Blah blah...
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: more on February 17, 2021, 06:09:36 PM
I am least bothered about hundreds of abuses I get everyday from You brainwashed guys
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: more on February 17, 2021, 06:11:28 PM
People tend to become silent when angry in order to prevent an argument.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: more on February 17, 2021, 06:13:17 PM
Keep telling lies . i will not come to your post untill I found anything unrealistic
bye
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: th on February 17, 2021, 06:16:11 PM
grammar
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: more on February 20, 2021, 04:33:08 PM
how much does dr. Baldu charges for Tibia ?
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: StrydeNailChallenge on February 21, 2021, 03:39:37 PM
I am a swimmer and my flexibility has always been very good to be honest. In regard to the medication and physio that would come out of your own pocket as far as I know but you have to ask directly with Dr. Buldus team.

Hi Jamesy998,
 
I am going to read your diary, but a quick glance tells me you are on the right track.

I believe athleticism is the key to a fast recovery. Hope you will reach your CLL goals soon.

SNC
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 23, 2021, 03:56:49 PM
Hi Jamesy998,
 
I am going to read your diary, but a quick glance tells me you are on the right track.

I believe athleticism is the key to a fast recovery. Hope you will reach your CLL goals soon.

SNC

Makes my day to hear some positive feedback, cheers man!
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 23, 2021, 04:28:05 PM
23/02/2021

Update - I am currently at 6CM. I have noticed stretching pain on the left pinsite by my knee which is normal in this case and glad it was not an infection. I have exactly 20 more days to go until my frame removal which is planned for the 16th of March, I have to say I am very nervous in a good way. The good thing is that this will be another step forward and this way I know I can no longer get any possible infections and the pinsite pains will no longer distract me away from my physio sessions. The past few days I have been taking it really easy, minimum walking but mostly stretching on the bed. My ROM is the same as before at about 75 degrees or so on my right leg and about 65 degrees on my left and that is only because of the pinsite pain that is present. I have recently been getting more than 10 hrs sleep which is amazing and I never feel too tired. Fixators have kind of grown on me but boy will i be happy to remove them.

I did honestly think that after 5cm was going to be extremely difficult but surprisingly enough I have zero pains, although this will not change my mind about sticking to my 8CM goal and not going a single millimetre above it. My back is significantly better. I think I did mention it previously in my updates that I had trouble sleeping because of it and I also could not stand straight 100 percent but now it has got significantly better for me. Hamstrings do feel tight of course but I can feel my body can take that extra 2cm that is left, if not then 7.5cm is also satisfactory. I do plan on staying in Turkey for a further 6 weeks post removal to gain my energy, flexibility and mobility back.

My next X-Ray will be done on surgery date and I will only be sharing them with those of you who are interested with a password in the future simply because I will not be giving any troll the pleasure of seeing my X-Rays or recovery.

Cheers,

Jamesey.

Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: more on February 23, 2021, 06:24:43 PM
The biggest problem is that your ROM (range of motion)
SO there is two type of Range of motion
1. Active range of motion which means you can do yourself
2. Passive Range of motion which means someone (physio) helping you
so could you tell us 75° in right is active range of motion or passive?
Other concern is you are saying today you are 6cm and in next 20 day you will become 8 cm , with external frame or device this is not possible if you are doing 1mm/day
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Deletedaccount_67574 on February 23, 2021, 07:27:40 PM
Nice update, be well bro! Has the pain subsided to a bearable level since your first surgery?
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Tomhard on February 23, 2021, 07:31:21 PM
Hey James, did your Dr. do IT-Band release?
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 23, 2021, 08:28:52 PM
Hey James, did your Dr. do IT-Band release?

I think he did yes
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 23, 2021, 08:31:49 PM
The biggest problem is that your ROM (range of motion)
SO there is two type of Range of motion
1. Active range of motion which means you can do yourself
2. Passive Range of motion which means someone (physio) helping you
so could you tell us 75° in right is active range of motion or passive?
Other concern is you are saying today you are 6cm and in next 20 day you will become 8 cm , with external frame or device this is not possible if you are doing 1mm/day

75 Degrees is my active range of motion and thats in a comfortable zone. If I try really hard then I can get about 85 degrees. I do not mind if it is even 7.5cm gained. David had the same ROM as me and now he has full ROM so that is not something that worries me.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 23, 2021, 08:33:01 PM
Nice update, be well bro! Has the pain subsided to a bearable level since your first surgery?

Of course, muscle and nerve pain is almost 1/10 and skin stretching pain is 3/10. Skin stretching pain is only when you are moving a lot though and not at night time when you are still.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: montahn on February 25, 2021, 09:31:45 AM
Of course, muscle and nerve pain is almost 1/10 and skin stretching pain is 3/10. Skin stretching pain is only when you are moving a lot though and not at night time when you are still.

Congratulation  :)

what is your goal height ?
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 25, 2021, 10:39:49 AM
7.5-8cm
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 28, 2021, 02:04:35 PM
28/02/2021

I thought I would give an update on my current situation and upcoming plans. I have decided that the 10th of march will be the last day that I lengthen which will give me 6 days prior to frame removal to rest and practice my knee bending and straightening and make my removal process and recovery run a little smoother. At that point I should be anywhere from170-172cm, I do not care for millimetres as it shows no significant real life difference, initially my plan was to be at least 170cm and anything past that would be a bonus. I have trouble at the moment straightening my right knee which should heal up with time after removal with some intense physiotherapy. My left leg is fine although the bending on my right knee is better by about 10 degrees. All in all I am happy that I am nearing to the end and it has been exhausting, for those of you who do the second surgery I admire your patience and strength honestly. My pain is only when trying to straighten my right knee and that is if I really push it but other than that I feel fine. Burning sensations slightly every now and again but that is to be expected no surprise there.

I am at a point where the lengthening process was so tiring that even though I no longer have an issue with my height, I am not exactly celebrating either, just happy that i don't have to think about this ever again in the future and I can finally move on with my life. I am looking forward to the recovery part as I like a challenge myself and although it is fairly obvious that I can no longer go back to 100 percent, I will do my best to achieve the highest level possible.

I am proud to be a part of this community honestly, the better part of it at least haha. No one without height neurosis could possibly imagine what we have to go through with this operation, the dedication and patience it takes and don't even get me started on the recovery process. I have had encouragement from many of you on these forums and I would like to thank each and every one of you for that.

At the moment I have forgotten the feeling of comfort so that is one thing I will gladly look forward too and hopefully achieve in the not too distant future.

There have been reports of post op pain after the removal which has honestly had me a little nervous but other than that I feel fine.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: canterk on February 28, 2021, 03:25:28 PM
just a little over a week to go for you and you're finally done lengthening. congratulations and please update us with your recovery afterwards. i hope you can post walking/gait vids after frame removal but i would understand if that's something you're not comfortable sharing with us. thanks for your diary!
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Zion on February 28, 2021, 03:41:28 PM
Happy for you man. Glad we will kill our height neurosis with this and attain a normal height. Will you stay in cityloft hotel before leaving Turkey?
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Kal el on February 28, 2021, 04:43:04 PM
28/02/2021

I thought I would give an update on my current situation and upcoming plans. I have decided that the 10th of march will be the last day that I lengthen which will give me 6 days prior to frame removal to rest and practice my knee bending and straightening and make my removal process and recovery run a little smoother. At that point I should be anywhere from170-172cm, I do not care for millimetres as it shows no significant real life difference, initially my plan was to be at least 170cm and anything past that would be a bonus. I have trouble at the moment straightening my right knee which should heal up with time after removal with some intense physiotherapy. My left leg is fine although the bending on my right knee is better by about 10 degrees. All in all I am happy that I am nearing to the end and it has been exhausting, for those of you who do the second surgery I admire your patience and strength honestly. My pain is only when trying to straighten my right knee and that is if I really push it but other than that I feel fine. Burning sensations slightly every now and again but that is to be expected no surprise there.

I am at a point where the lengthening process was so tiring that even though I no longer have an issue with my height, I am not exactly celebrating either, just happy that i don't have to think about this ever again in the future and I can finally move on with my life. I am looking forward to the recovery part as I like a challenge myself and although it is fairly obvious that I can no longer go back to 100 percent, I will do my best to achieve the highest level possible.

I am proud to be a part of this community honestly, the better part of it at least haha. No one without height neurosis could possibly imagine what we have to go through with this operation, the dedication and patience it takes and don't even get me started on the recovery process. I have had encouragement from many of you on these forums and I would like to thank each and every one of you for that.

At the moment I have forgotten the feeling of comfort so that is one thing I will gladly look forward too and hopefully achieve in the not too distant future.

There have been reports of post op pain after the removal which has honestly had me a little nervous but other than that I feel fine.
Congratulations jamsey on nearly clearing ur lengthening journey keep strong you got this....
Happy for you man. Glad we will kill our height neurosis with this and attain a normal height. Will you stay in cityloft hotel before leaving Turkey?
..do u have a diary in this forum zion??
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 28, 2021, 04:57:42 PM
Happy for you man. Glad we will kill our height neurosis with this and attain a normal height. Will you stay in cityloft hotel before leaving Turkey?

Thanks mate, not the hotel no but I will be staying at the rented apartment Im currently in until the end of April so it gives me 6 weeks to train and recover while I am here.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 28, 2021, 04:59:27 PM
just a little over a week to go for you and you're finally done lengthening. congratulations and please update us with your recovery afterwards. i hope you can post walking/gait vids after frame removal but i would understand if that's something you're not comfortable sharing with us. thanks for your diary!

Thanks Canterk, hope the best for you also. I will definitely keep everyone updated with the entire recovery process.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Zion on February 28, 2021, 05:16:40 PM
Congratulations jamsey on nearly clearing ur lengthening journey keep strong you got this......do u have a diary in this forum zion??

No man, i will however create a thread when i am done with this explaining all my experience. Ask me questions if you want though.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Vibes on February 28, 2021, 06:37:09 PM
Thanks for coming back to keep your diary updated even after removal!
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 28, 2021, 09:34:11 PM
Thanks for coming back to keep your diary updated even after removal!

No problem mate!
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on March 01, 2021, 03:58:09 PM
01/03/2021

I have made a decision to stop lengthening. I will lengthen another 5mm or so to put myself with a 6.5cm gain and at that point I will give myself 10 days to rest until my frame removal on the 15th of this month. Honestly, I have come a long way in regard to receiving information about LL while I have been lengthening, many including myself think thought it was a relatively normal procedure but this could not be further from the truth. During the lengthening face I have become more conservative day by day with my goals hence why i am stopping at 6.5cm as I think this amount is a good combination between safety and noticeable gains. Anything above 2 inches makes the world of a difference in real life. I will no longer be short but at the lower end of average which I am completely content with.

Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: VeteranLL on March 04, 2021, 12:54:13 PM
You can push it to 7-7,5cm and still be in the safe zone. I did 7cm and i recovered fast and well.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on March 04, 2021, 01:20:31 PM
You can push it to 7-7,5cm and still be in the safe zone. I did 7cm and i recovered fast and well.

Since I am satisfied with my height right now, honestly I do not have the need anymore to lengthen more.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Deletedaccount_67574 on March 04, 2021, 03:19:59 PM
Since I am satisfied with my height right now, honestly I do not have the need anymore to lengthen more.

It's fine to just stop at this amount. It's a relatively conservative and decent gain, no point to further damage your body for any miniscule gain. Based on your experience, do you foresee yourself being at least 70% normal and pain free upon recovery? Chronic pain is the main concern I have on whether to proceed with this surgery.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on March 04, 2021, 04:49:58 PM
It's fine to just stop at this amount. It's a relatively conservative and decent gain, no point to further damage your body for any miniscule gain. Based on your experience, do you foresee yourself being at least 70% normal and pain free upon recovery? Chronic pain is the main concern I have on whether to proceed with this surgery.

At the moment it is hard to tell but I should be able to in about a month. I have done a conservative amount as you say which should not cause me any issues. I will try my best to recover fully is all I can say for now.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: dunghuynh2227 on March 07, 2021, 02:04:50 AM
I'm same height with you at begin but my tibia seem too short with femur so i did 6,5 in tibias , can you add my whatssap , I want to do femur , i want to talk
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Zion on March 09, 2021, 03:08:50 PM
Hey James, any tip or anything to improve tightness in the hamstrings? I feel like the skin will tear apart   :( but weird I feel nothing in my right leg
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on March 10, 2021, 02:32:05 PM
Hey James, any tip or anything to improve tightness in the hamstrings? I feel like the skin will tear apart   :( but weird I feel nothing in my right leg

I was the exact same man, everything you feel is natural. I had the skin tearing apart pain too and it was mostly on my left leg too.
Good training for that is to escalate the leg each day or a certain amount of time. Maybe on like a pillow or two.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Zion on March 10, 2021, 10:48:40 PM
I was the exact same man, everything you feel is natural. I had the skin tearing apart pain too and it was mostly on my left leg too.
Good training for that is to escalate the leg each day or a certain amount of time. Maybe on like a pillow or two.

So just rising the leg as much as possible? Up and down excercises? And how long did it take you for that pain to go away? Thanks in advance man
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on March 11, 2021, 01:18:07 AM
Pain went away for me 1.5 months after the operation. After that you will occasionally get pin site pains, muscle pains, hamstring pains but no worries they all eventually subside. Some take longer than others. So as an example, I had a pin site infection on my left leg which lasted about 2 weeks or a little more, caused really bad pain if I moved my leg and it caused my knee bending on that side to get really bad and I am working on that at the moment. 2 weeks ago my right leg was extremely weak but now it is fine. There are tons of little annoying pains and minor problems that will arise during the lengthening but all it takes is a bit of patience and they will go away. Take note though, every time you get the pain ask the doc if it is normal. My trick is to annoy the former patients and the doc as much as possible just to be sure it is nothing serious, that is how I found out I had an infection early on instead of later when it would cause more problems down the line. Knee bending issues, knee straightening issues, leg weakness, nerve pains here and there, muscle pains, muscle spasms, they are all part of the process and it should not scare you.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: canterk on March 12, 2021, 03:12:43 PM
Hey James would you mind sharing photos after frame removal? Interested to see how noticeable the scars will be.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on March 12, 2021, 04:17:49 PM
Hey James would you mind sharing photos after frame removal? Interested to see how noticeable the scars will be.

No problem, will do.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: more on March 12, 2021, 05:38:57 PM
Did you remove your device?
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on March 13, 2021, 12:01:37 AM
I will stop the lengthening soon and remove after the 16th.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on March 13, 2021, 10:58:41 PM
14/03/2021

I have officially stopped lengthening, I am at 6.5cm. At the moment my ROM will do with some improvement and also get my right knee to straighten more. I feel my body can accommodate more lengthening but considering i am already completely satisfied with my height, I will stop here. My frame removal date is most likely going to be for the 26th, still yet to confirm and that will give me time i advance to give my legs a little break before doing another procedure which I am completely dreading although it will probably feel amazing to have these things off once and for all.

I had really bad knee pain last night which was not common at all considering I went a month with literally zero pain and now for it to hurt all of a sudden felt a bit strange but it is gone now and feels normal again. Although my ROM is bad I have no pain in the area and my walking is not too bad although I am not fully satisfied with my right leg. My right positions itself into an outward position and I have to put effort to actually make at more straight as I am trying my best not to lose the ability to walk the way I used to. I have many plans for the months to come so recovery is extremely important to me. I want to get walking as soon as possible so once these frames are off and the cooling off period of the surgery and surgical pain has passed I will be dedicating a lot of effort to physical therapy which should significantly boost my recovery period and improve my ROM. If anyone has done external femur can you please give me a bit of insight with the whole removal process, I am told by many that straight after the removal process the ROM gets even worse and cannot be improved for a certain period of time. Does anyone know why that is? has me very curious.

Travelling post frame removal : I am catious person by nature and also a pessimist which gives me a sense of paranoia reason being. Many patients report that the frame removal pain is the same as the pain we experience from the first initial surgery. Now, most patients have those post surgical pains for about 2 weeks but for me it went on for a minimum of 1 month which is where my paranoia comes in that the same pain will go on for another month after removal. If that pain is still present even at the end of the post month that would mean that I will want to stay in Turkey for a longer duration, not that I have a problem with that but just as a side note I thought that I would mention it. Although this could just be a thought as anything can happen and maybe I wont have pain as long as the first surgery where in that case I would be able to return home by the end of April which wold be great. I also had this obsession that I did not want to return unless I was able to walk properly but talking to so many patients the recovery period for walking seems to be all over the place, some people walk after 3 weeks removal and others take months. I am confident it will not take anything longer than 2 months and by month 4 I could start weight training my legs again as I have gotten skinny in the past month or two. I have basically forgotten the feeling of being "free" and without the frames. The time when walking around and even running was taken for granted, psyched to go back to all that. In 6 months I am also returning to my home country for the first time in 5 years which is amazing. There is a lot of things waiting for me so to speak that I have to be ready for so I cannot make any errors and mistakes that would lead to God forbid bad outcomes which was also another reason for stopping the lengthening a bit too early. I like to think that I have a pretty good intuition and my intuition told me to stop so thats what I am doing.

A word of advice for those who are reading this and considering to do LL, please just listen to your body. 1 extra centimetre does not mean anything in real life but to your body can be a disaster in the making. I can assure you that at a certain point in your lengthening phase you WILL reach a gain that will make you feel 100 percent comfortable at that height but the greed part will be telling you to do more. Do not give in and just stop, the people that have not have had all the  ty outcomes you can imagine. Remember why we all wanted to do this surgery in the first place, not to be tall but to feel normal.  :-*  8)

Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Deletedaccount_67574 on March 15, 2021, 01:15:59 AM
Congrats! Good luck on your recovery! Please continue updating too as your experience is invaluable for people looking to do this!
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Zion on March 15, 2021, 01:25:16 AM
Congrats man! 6.5cm is good enough and safety comes first. I cant wait to remove mine in a month. Best of lucks to you and please keep us updated!
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Serilium on March 15, 2021, 01:44:37 AM
Totally respect your decision- as you say 2 inches and some more is more than enough to make you satisfied and not need to go for more. Height neurosis gone is the only thing that matters. I respect your mindset and think it is a winner's mindset. Cheers Jamesy
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: StrydeNailChallenge on March 15, 2021, 02:45:06 AM

I have officially stopped lengthening, I am at 6.5cm. At the moment my ROM will do with some improvement and also get my right knee to straighten more. I feel my body can accommodate more lengthening but considering i am already completely satisfied with my height, I will stop here.
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Hello Jamesy998,

 Congratulations on completing your distraction phase. To a perfect consolidation!
SNC
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on March 15, 2021, 06:19:09 PM
Hello Jamesy998,

 Congratulations on completing your distraction phase. To a perfect consolidation!
SNC

Cheers mate
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on March 15, 2021, 06:19:36 PM
Totally respect your decision- as you say 2 inches and some more is more than enough to make you satisfied and not need to go for more. Height neurosis gone is the only thing that matters. I respect your mindset and think it is a winner's mindset. Cheers Jamesy

Yes, it makes the world of a difference. Thank you.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on March 15, 2021, 06:20:11 PM
Congrats man! 6.5cm is good enough and safety comes first. I cant wait to remove mine in a month. Best of lucks to you and please keep us updated!

Thanks man and best of luck for you also on your lengthening and recovery.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on March 15, 2021, 06:20:32 PM
Congrats! Good luck on your recovery! Please continue updating too as your experience is invaluable for people looking to do this!

Definitely will without a doubt, thank you.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: RB on March 15, 2021, 07:25:28 PM
Well done mate! Happy for you. Wishing you all the best during consolidation.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on March 15, 2021, 07:30:42 PM
Well done mate! Happy for you. Wishing you all the best during consolidation.

Thank you, hope you also have a great recovery man!
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: BelowTheMean on March 15, 2021, 07:49:42 PM
Congrats on finishing distraction. 6.5cm is more than enough to feel a difference in height, and will allow for a much quicker recovery than 8cm. You can definitely feel the impact of every mm after 6.5cm
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on March 15, 2021, 08:23:11 PM
Congrats on finishing distraction. 6.5cm is more than enough to feel a difference in height, and will allow for a much quicker recovery than 8cm. You can definitely feel the impact of every mm after 6.5cm

Completely agree with you on that one. I think this is the best for my recovery without getting too greedy on my part. Just cant wait to get back out there again!
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Deletedaccount_67574 on March 16, 2021, 10:08:14 AM
James,

Do you think it's possible to do the surgery without hiring a helper? If not, how long would you need the helper for until you are able to function on your own physically? I'm going to be in my mid twenties soon, my parents are firmly against the surgery and would not provide help of any sort to discourage me from getting it. Other than being hospitalized for the first 7 days. I'm thinking of getting it done with Dong Hoon.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on March 16, 2021, 02:09:33 PM
James,

Do you think it's possible to do the surgery without hiring a helper? If not, how long would you need the helper for until you are able to function on your own physically? I'm going to be in my mid twenties soon, my parents are firmly against the surgery and would not provide help of any sort to discourage me from getting it. Other than being hospitalized for the first 7 days. I'm thinking of getting it done with Dong Hoon.

Sorry to hear you are lacking support on this one mate. I think a helper is a must at the beginning of the process as you will need help getting used to going to the bathroom and the basic things as such but after about the two week mark you should be able to do it on your own. Different for everyone else. Personally I had many fears of weightbearing, psychologically speaking I had a problem, not with the nail itself. Because of this it took me two months to gain confidence with the weight bearing and doing most things on my own. There are some people who get this surgery done with Dr. Buldu and they are independent right when they come out of hospital so I must say that it is indeed an individual experience.

There is also the topic of whether you are getting your tibias operated on or your femurs. From what I hear by the patients who have done both is that the tibias are more comfortable to do than the femurs so that might also factor into your decision. I would try and just have an emergency fund ready just in case you might need a helper for a longer period of time.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Deletedaccount_67574 on March 18, 2021, 10:31:55 AM
Do you forsee yourself to be able to walk within 3 months without crutches? I saw a thread in one of the experiences that a patient still cant walk without walker after 6 months. Damm
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on March 18, 2021, 01:31:46 PM
Do you forsee yourself to be able to walk within 3 months without crutches? I saw a thread in one of the experiences that a patient still cant walk without walker after 6 months. Damm

I will be able to walk after 3 months guarantee, I will have a mental breakdown if i cant.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Keynes on March 18, 2021, 02:29:27 PM
I will be able to walk after 3 months guarantee, I will have a mental breakdown if i cant.

hey man, stay positive. all is gonna go well. you have already won majority of the war. its time to be confident and strong. :)   
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: more on March 18, 2021, 03:11:47 PM
hey man, stay positive. all is gonna go well. you have already won majority of the war. its time to be confident and strong. :)
Lengthening is only 25 % of LL Journey 75%  more to go, be positive and mentally strong. You will recover
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: more on March 18, 2021, 03:34:15 PM
I will be able to walk after 3 months guarantee, I will have a mental breakdown if i cant.
Lengthening is only 25 % of LL Journey 75%  more to go, be positive and mentally strong. You will recover
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on March 18, 2021, 08:43:08 PM
Lengthening is only 25 % of LL Journey 75%  more to go, be positive and mentally strong. You will recover

Cheers, I will try and give it my 100 percent as much as I can.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Deletedaccount_67574 on March 19, 2021, 03:21:10 AM
Keep going on! Hope you recover soon! If you are alright with it maybe post a walking video progression? Your diary really motivates me!
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: fortycucks123 on March 19, 2021, 03:14:13 PM
WHat is the total cost of the procedure including accommodations, therapy, travel, etc ? Was an anticoagulant prescribed to mitigate risk of blood clots?
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: fortycucks123 on March 19, 2021, 03:17:30 PM
just read blood thinners prescribed happy to hear
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on March 19, 2021, 03:42:24 PM
Keep going on! Hope you recover soon! If you are alright with it maybe post a walking video progression? Your diary really motivates me!

As soon as I am able to walk I will post the video, Just waiting on the frame removal now as it really restricts my movements.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: kumbaya on March 22, 2021, 10:40:39 PM
Hi Jamesy,

I sent you an inbox, hope you see it.
Thanks
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Ozoz on March 24, 2021, 05:46:42 PM
How is your mobility my friend
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on March 24, 2021, 07:23:18 PM
MY ROM is utter crap right now, just waiting for the fixator removal to get back into shape again
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Ozoz on March 24, 2021, 08:58:26 PM
Range Of Movement and Recovery Of Strength is crucial my friend
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on March 24, 2021, 11:16:57 PM
Both will return without a doubt I remove my fixators and dedicate most of my time to training. There were many of us here with horrible ROM even worse than me and now they are at 100 degrees+ after 2 months of removal. I was one of the unfortunate ones with bad ROM even at the beginning before i lengthened straight after Externals. One of the many reason it is more ideal to do internals if you have the money or external tibias.

When it comes to range of motion and patients in external (LON) femurs I have observed that it is somewhere around 50/50, you have some patients who have amazing ROM during the entire phase bu then you have some like myself with really poor ROM. There is also many who have great knee bending abilities but struggle with duck as£.

One thing is for sure that with externals the recovery is a bit longer for those with poor bending because it takes longer for them to regain the ROM, either way I would only do stryde internals or tibia externals if I were given another chance. Precise also seems great with the comfort and all but the fact that it is not weight bearing makes it less appealing to me.

I might as well give my status update as I write my response. Everything seems to be going well. The knee straightening issue that I had is slowly resolving and getting better by the week, the bending is still very poor as I mentioned previously and I have no pains at all. I stopped lengthening more than a week at this point and it makes a world of a difference. My soft tissues no longer feel like they are about to explode out of my skin. There is the occasional nerve pain once every two days at most and it lasts no longer than a split second. Surgery for the removal is literally tomorrow and I am very nervous and excited at the same time, I had needles and the fact that I have to go to the hospital and get a ton of em done pre op is very annoying to me, the butterflies are already happening in my stomach.

In a few hours I am going to get a covid CPR test done (home test service) just to have that checked before being admitted to the hospital and then I will start fasting after six in the evening getting ready for my operation. My operation is in the morning and will hopefully be in a state to update my diary after waking up. As many will agree with me the hospital is arguably one of the most depressing places on earth to be in so forgive me if I do not immediately update my diary and possibly take longer than a week to respond.

Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: BelowTheMean on March 25, 2021, 12:34:08 AM
Best of luck on your frame removal surgery!
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: L8GrowthSpurt on March 25, 2021, 01:09:34 AM
Good luck with the surgery! Btw, love the moniker. (No one is a bigger bad@ss than Michael Corleone)
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Ozoz on March 25, 2021, 10:18:14 AM
How is your pain level my friend
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on March 25, 2021, 02:59:46 PM
Best of luck on your frame removal surgery!

Cheers mate
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on March 25, 2021, 03:00:27 PM
Good luck with the surgery! Btw, love the moniker. (No one is a bigger bad@ss than Michael Corleone)

Of course, should be everyones role model when it comes to confidence.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on March 25, 2021, 03:01:42 PM
How is your pain level my friend

Surgery in 14 hrs, currently I have 1/10 pain. The pain is coming from my right leg since it is weaker and it hurts a small bit when I walk.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: RB on March 25, 2021, 03:15:56 PM
All the best mate. One step closer!
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on March 25, 2021, 03:30:25 PM
All the best mate. One step closer!

Cheers man, thanks for all the support to everyone.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Ozoz on March 25, 2021, 04:43:29 PM
Good luck keep us updated
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: fivetenneeded2016 on March 25, 2021, 04:58:41 PM
Surgery in 14 hrs, currently I have 1/10 pain. The pain is coming from my right leg since it is weaker and it hurts a small bit when I walk.
goodluck mate, you'd find the meaning of reincarnation tomorrow after removal lol.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: more on March 25, 2021, 05:03:26 PM
he just finished 25% of LL Journey wait of 75% probably he will left Forum , This is bitter truth
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on March 25, 2021, 07:31:49 PM
he just finished 25% of LL Journey wait of 75% probably he will left Forum , This is bitter truth

Good or bad outcome I will still update everyone. There are too many people following my diary at this point for me to quit.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on March 25, 2021, 07:32:56 PM
goodluck mate, you'd find the meaning of reincarnation tomorrow after removal lol.

I am not expecting sunset and butterflies but it sure will make a difference for the better.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Tartar on March 25, 2021, 11:10:38 PM
Keep strong!  8)
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on March 25, 2021, 11:18:09 PM
Keep strong!  8)

Cheers!
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Serilium on March 25, 2021, 11:24:35 PM
james, i am sorry to dox you. are you american? feel free to ignore to prevent doxx

good luck also those LON femurs are hella uncomfortable
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on March 25, 2021, 11:45:45 PM
They will be off in a few hours and I am quite nervous. I am Irish
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: fivetenneeded2016 on March 26, 2021, 12:41:49 AM
There are too many people following my diary at this point for me to quit.
hope you did not stop your lengthening coz of these people! most of them wouldnt even do this surgery ;) they are here to just waste time :)
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on March 26, 2021, 03:04:32 PM
https://ibb.co/dK7rWTt

Lads, I am free, God the weight on those things were something else. The pain after I woke up right after surgery was unbearable but after the painkiller I am all good now with pain going back down to like 2/10. I have X-Ray later and will try and post some of those pics too.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on March 27, 2021, 07:17:28 AM
https://ibb.co/XWKQ4Hf
https://ibb.co/3196nVC

Final X-Ray, nail locked. I will probably get discharged later today. I will rest for now as I am too tired to write anything.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: more on March 27, 2021, 07:31:25 AM
https://ibb.co/XWKQ4Hf
https://ibb.co/3196nVC

Final X-Ray, nail locked. I will probably get discharged later today. I will rest for now as I am too tired to write anything.
Congratulations you removed monorail.
Don't take it personally Your knee joint space seems become narrow. which is not good sign ,
how much did you get?
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on March 27, 2021, 08:29:01 AM
6.5cm, I will check the knee joint space with my doctor and also email Dr. Michael Assayag to get a second opinion.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: more on March 27, 2021, 08:29:44 AM
6.5cm, I will check the knee joint space with my doctor and also email Dr. Michael Assayag to get a second opinion.
Good
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: more on March 27, 2021, 09:44:14 AM
And one more thing it doesn't look like 6.5 cm please cross check it with other x-ray centre or other orthopaedic doctor
I don't have any personal gradues against you and any other in this forum.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on March 27, 2021, 03:19:48 PM
And one more thing it doesn't look like 6.5 cm please cross check it with other x-ray centre or other orthopaedic doctor
I don't have any personal gradues against you and any other in this forum.

Does it look like less or more to you?
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on March 27, 2021, 03:22:14 PM
Regarding the slight gap that appears to be on the knee cartilage on the X-Ray, I spoke to Dr Halil and Dr. Assayag and Dr Assayag has told me that everything looks okay and nothing at all look irregular on the x-Rays while Dr. Buldu said that the gap might look like that based on how the x-ray beam was shined, position of my leg during x-ray, ect and again, nothing irregular.

Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: more on March 27, 2021, 04:04:23 PM
Regarding the slight gap that appears to be on the knee cartilage on the X-Ray, I spoke to Dr Halil and Dr. Assayag and Dr Assayag has told me that everything looks okay and nothing at all look irregular on the x-Rays while Dr. Buldu said that the gap might look like that based on how the x-ray beam was shined, position of my leg during x-ray, ect and again, nothing irregular.
This is good news if drs saying like this
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on March 28, 2021, 09:27:15 AM
28/03/2021

Third day out of removal surgery. I have surgical pains on my left leg mainly where the nail was locked which is easily bearable, I use a weak painkiller for it once a night. I am still not testing out my ROM because I want to give my body a rest before taking up physio although I can clearly feel the night and day difference in the general flexibility of my legs and I feel the ROM gain will not be a problem either. As all of you know from my previous post if you were not able to tell, I am consulting with Dr. Assayag as much as i possibly can and you could say he is updated on all my progress, x-rays, ect. It is crucial to have as much support as you can also from another doctor so you can also cross check facts and opinions. As soon as I get to Ireland I will also immediately consult with my orthopaedic surgeon.

Removing the frames was a relief and I feel safer now, from pinsite complications and any other crap that came along with those frames. My bones are aligned and the difference in height is massive in real life, plus the fact that my femurs are proportional with the length of my tibias I must say I look much nicer aesthetically than I did before.

I will take my bandages off in a day or two and my legs will feel more free. Anyway now everyday is going to be progress from the previous, no more one step forward one step back bullcrap like in the lengthening phase and I don't have the fixators anymore to restrict any more of my movements so I can freely make progress and keep my progress while I make it. My advice for future LLers would be to just wait for Stryde, it is worth every penny. Height neurosis is completely gone to the point that I don't even pay attention to anyone else's height outside anymore. When I came back from hospital I did not measure one person in my mind like I would have done pre LL.

Worts parts about my LL would be: 1)The post OP surgical pain, whether its the nail insertion or the fixator removal they both hurt a lot but this is also very individual so it might not apply to everyone.

2) The needles, I know this may sound like a bitchy reason but it does make a difference on anyones level of comfort, I did not like the nurses here in Turkey, one because not a single person in the entire hospital spoke English but many can barely take a Freiking blood sample. Before my removal I had to tell the nurse where to inject because she could not properly find my vein so kept jabbing it in the wrong place until I literally passed out, then starts to take my bloods, spilling quite a lot of it around the bed. Same cr@p when they were removing the needle. The cleaner guy also decides to clean the room at 4am for some reason, after trying to get to sleep for hours he then proceeds to make a racket and wake me up. Just very basic things but makes the experience horrible.

There are much more things but the list would be simply too long. Made me appreciate Ireland more, less cluster fkd.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on March 29, 2021, 09:41:27 PM
Alright, Im going to take off now, not really bothered to update anymore as there are barely anymore new people responding to the diary. What I plan on doing is updating you all one year post frame removal. This is because coming onto these forums daily, the topics are just downright idiotic to begin with. I mean, a completely normal person could come on here and probably develop a height neurosis just by reading the posts. Recently more 175cm+ morons also parading the forums too, and then of course we have the final category, my favourite one, which would be the people who are constantly asking the same questions, I mean just read the bloody topics on the same answered questions. And for those of you who are 175cm and over, I do actually hope you get the surgery so that you realise how much of a clown you are, and no your excuse that you live in Finland is not a good one, I have met more Northern Europeans in real life who are around 175cm then you can imagine. To give you an example of how much of a joke this forum is, there is a user who wishes to be 195cm+ , if that is not the summit of idiocy then I do not know what is. FY, you want to impress a girl? then lengthen you're junk instead because that will be fifty percent more effective. It is sad really because on these forums are actual people who genuinely need this operation, guys who are 160cm below and they just get shadowed by these men who are average height and want to be lengthened because they lack a personality to please a women. To all the 170cm plus guys out there on the forum, knowing a few patients who were average height and did this surgery, you will not gain anything at all. If you were sad before, you will just be a taller sad person instead.

Look, I don't want to insult the decent people here too much but when you get this surgery done, you just want to move on, and nutcases talking about doing more surgeries gets very annoying because you know they will not get it done. I do not understand how some people can be on these forums for years after they move on, I can imagine it gets depressing and I also think deep down that, if you are indeed still on these forums after you have recovered, well then you never really beat height neurosis, why else would you be on this forum discussing something that should have been cured with this surgery.

Also, some of you I know have my instagram, text me if you actually are going through with the surgery, I am not an FAQ page.



Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: BelowTheMean on March 30, 2021, 03:24:16 AM
Hah, I'm glad you've reached the point where you can move on from the forum! I've probably only got one or two more months on here before I stop checking regularly, but yeah there's really no point once you've done the surgery and especially once you've recovered.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Deletedaccount_67574 on March 30, 2021, 04:23:14 AM
Thank you for sharing James. Would you recommend it to me who is around 164cm after your experience?
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Frederico86 on March 30, 2021, 10:30:19 AM
Hey guys its Frederico quick update im improving well.knee.bending 135 degrees walking not bad without crutches in the flat
Take care guys !!
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: GrowTow on April 02, 2021, 11:17:32 PM
Hey guys its Frederico quick update im improving well.knee.bending 135 degrees walking not bad without crutches in the flat
Take care guys !!

Why is this posted here? Did you forget to change accounts???? :o :o :o
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: more on April 04, 2021, 04:30:17 PM
Why is this posted here? Did you forget to change accounts???? :o :o :o
Marketing is on high. too many account from Baldu
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: more on October 05, 2021, 04:16:06 PM
Good or bad outcome I will still update everyone. There are too many people following my diary at this point for me to quit.
Hi where are you? waiting for your update
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: more on October 05, 2021, 04:18:52 PM
Why is this posted here? Did you forget to change accounts???? :o :o :o
This marketing agent no where in this forum.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Growing on October 06, 2021, 05:14:34 AM
This marketing agent no where in this forum.

why are you so bent on harassing people? He's living his life. I spoke to him. he chooses not to come here anymore. Why would he? To be harassed by people like you? I can tell you are up in the cushy suburbs. I think you grew up not having consequences to your actions. You talk reckless like you don't know what it feels like to get hit in the face.... It doesn't feel great btw.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: more on October 06, 2021, 06:28:19 AM
Hey guys its Frederico quick update im improving well.knee.bending 135 degrees walking not bad without crutches in the flat
Take care guys !!
He was busy here
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Sorcerer on March 19, 2022, 04:39:29 AM
Thank you for sharing James. Would you recommend it to me who is around 164cm after your experience?
I will highly recommend LL to you around this height cuz it will be more profound than winning a one billion dollar lottery or even saving the world.
Around this height the life is like hell and height is a killer who is always torturing you slowly until you are torn out to do something stupid.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on July 06, 2022, 08:47:18 PM
Hi everyone,

I said I would update 1 year post op and here I am.
For those of you who doubted me well sorry to disappoint but I recovered and back to life as normal. I recovered more or less fully at the start of this year in January and since then been doing everything as I did before. The ROM, and the elasticity are back as they were, proportionally no one can tell a thing. The scars are horrible though so planning on getting them tattooed soon this year.

My weight is back to normal and pretty much everything else. Felt weird coming on to this forum after so long but I didn’t really want anyone out there to think I was crippled or anything like that. I just want to advise you all that you can have an easier time recovering though, just avoid LON femurs as much as you can and do not get greedy! I gained something like 3 inches or whatever and I feel completely average.

This surgery will make you forget about your height but will not improve your life quality in the sense that you will be more attractive to the opposite gender, only in some cases. I was not deluded to begin with so I was extremely thrilled with my outcome, it is worth it in the long run.

I will say, avoid getting this surgery done outside you’re home country unless it is fully internal, being at home would have made my journey a hell of a lot easier. Muscle fatigue is non existent to me at the moment, only if I run hard for ages which would be normal for any other human being regardless if they had the surgery or not. I want to apologise to the ones out there waiting for my response, I did not mean to be ignorant, I just didn't really care about height anymore and didn’t feel the need to come on here since then.


Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Jamesy998 on July 06, 2022, 08:56:22 PM
Thank you for sharing James. Would you recommend it to me who is around 164cm after your experience?

Sorry about the extremely late response mate. Did you get you’re surgery done?
There are much better options then Turkey if you are still thinking about it. Although this surgery was 100% worth it, I would have done internals instead, nice to be able to recover and lengthen at home instead.

Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Deletedaccount_67574 on July 14, 2022, 03:03:27 PM
Sorry about the extremely late response mate. Did you get you’re surgery done?
There are much better options then Turkey if you are still thinking about it. Although this surgery was 100% worth it, I would have done internals instead, nice to be able to recover and lengthen at home instead.

Hi, good to hear you doing well after this while. And no, my investments olummeted, savings went down alot so gotta save for a few more years. If only I had the courage to go for it nonetheless. Ideally internals would be the choice but otherwise LON. How has your dating options been affected? Not gonna deny, I am getting depressed on my height affecting my dating. This is one of the main reasons im thinking of this.
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: boklecrt on July 15, 2022, 02:30:43 AM
Hi, good to hear you doing well after this while. And no, my investments olummeted, savings went down alot so gotta save for a few more years. If only I had the courage to go for it nonetheless. Ideally internals would be the choice but otherwise LON. How has your dating options been affected? Not gonna deny, I am getting depressed on my height affecting my dating. This is one of the main reasons im thinking of this.

LON femur is not a valid choice for anyone with money or ability to earn the money needed for this surgery

You are not some poor 5 ft tall pakistani kid

Don't be a retard and earn the money for a proper PRECICE 2.2 surgery with a responsible doctor with an adequate policy on complications payment. For example if you go with Rozbruch in new york for 130 000 dollars, if something happens and you need additional surgery the doctor will waive his fee, however you still will need to pay 20 000 USD per day for hospital stay so not really a solution isnt it? History shows that the majority of the complications cases are a result of poor post op care so make that your priority when evaluating your options
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Deletedaccount_67574 on July 15, 2022, 02:41:45 AM
LON femur is not a valid choice for anyone with money or ability to earn the money needed for this surgery

You are not some poor 5 ft tall pakistani kid

Don't be a retard and earn the money for a proper PRECICE 2.2 surgery with a responsible doctor with an adequate policy on complications payment. For example if you go with Rozbruch in new york for 130 000 dollars, if something happens and you need additional surgery the doctor will waive his fee, however you still will need to pay 20 000 USD per day for hospital stay so not really a solution isnt it? History shows that the majority of the complications cases are a result of poor post op care so make that your priority when evaluating your options
First of all, tibias.
2nd why the fk are u so hostile? Who stepped on ur toes?
Dr Dong Hoon is a good choice for tibias LON.
Whats wrong w it if u want a full weight bearing experience and not wheelchair bound for 6 months on Precice?
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: boklecrt on July 15, 2022, 02:49:53 AM
First of all, tibias.
2nd why the fk are u so hostile? Who stepped on ur toes?
Dr Dong Hoon is a good choice for tibias LON.
Whats wrong w it if u want a full weight bearing experience and not wheelchair bound for 6 months on Precice?

My apologies, as I see this is a LON Femur thread, and thought you are considering this method. Any person considering Lon femur around here needs a brutal reality check before its too late

Lon tibia is a BREEZE compared to LON femur, and have in mind im talking out of experience as I just finished the process myself.
Dr Lee is the absolute best top choice for Lon tibia, and you will not be disappointed. He is shockingly pricey for a non western doctor though, so if you want a cheap Lon tibia there are other options, im not going to shill for the doctor who did my surgery but I finished pretty much unscathed


EDIT
Regarding your impression of "full weight bearing experience". Despite what the name entails, once the frames come on you will not be able to do your previous daily tasks as usual but just with some leg frames on. You will almost certainly be unable to do anything without a walker, then after the frames come off you still have to use walker and crutches while your soft tissues stretch(unable to keep balance) and the bone develops some consolidation to allow for weight bearing without assistance.

Compared to PRECICE which also requires assistance, I personally do not see a big difference in the weight bearing protocol of the both methods and you will get to the same conclusion yourself if you do proper further research.

People think that PRECICE means you will be using a wheelchair for the ENTIRE consolidation period - 7-9 months but its actually not true, as around month 3-4 the callus has hardened enough to take some of the weight of the body in addition to the built in weight capacity of the precice nails which as far as i remember was 35 kg per nail for the fattest nail size

Food for thought
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: Deletedaccount_67574 on July 16, 2022, 05:22:38 AM
My apologies, as I see this is a LON Femur thread, and thought you are considering this method. Any person considering Lon femur around here needs a brutal reality check before its too late

Lon tibia is a BREEZE compared to LON femur, and have in mind im talking out of experience as I just finished the process myself.
Dr Lee is the absolute best top choice for Lon tibia, and you will not be disappointed. He is shockingly pricey for a non western doctor though, so if you want a cheap Lon tibia there are other options, im not going to shill for the doctor who did my surgery but I finished pretty much unscathed


EDIT
Regarding your impression of "full weight bearing experience". Despite what the name entails, once the frames come on you will not be able to do your previous daily tasks as usual but just with some leg frames on. You will almost certainly be unable to do anything without a walker, then after the frames come off you still have to use walker and crutches while your soft tissues stretch(unable to keep balance) and the bone develops some consolidation to allow for weight bearing without assistance.

Compared to PRECICE which also requires assistance, I personally do not see a big difference in the weight bearing protocol of the both methods and you will get to the same conclusion yourself if you do proper further research.

People think that PRECICE means you will be using a wheelchair for the ENTIRE consolidation period - 7-9 months but its actually not true, as around month 3-4 the callus has hardened enough to take some of the weight of the body in addition to the built in weight capacity of the precice nails which as far as i remember was 35 kg per nail for the fattest nail size

Food for thought
Nice, so u did both femurs and tibias? How was tibias?
Title: Re: Diary - LON Femurs Dr Halil Buldu
Post by: we.live.once on July 16, 2022, 07:27:58 AM
Sorry about the extremely late response mate. Did you get you’re surgery done?
There are much better options then Turkey if you are still thinking about it. Although this surgery was 100% worth it, I would have done internals instead, nice to be able to recover and lengthen at home instead.
Did you think about using a Plasma pen to remove your scars?   ;)
I don't know if it's possible, but I will try ;D