Limb Lengthening Forum
Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Patients Experiences => Topic started by: Americanfootball on July 08, 2018, 09:09:48 AM
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Greetings,
After i got 6,5-7 cm with Tibia lengthening 6 years ago, I m starting new journey to win Champions League at this Level. Joking aside, it s My aim to share my experience, inform the people about details good or bad but honestly! Everybody must show empathy, i know how important this operation in your life so i try to give you some clues to be caught in your Journey.
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INFO;
From: Europe
Age: 25-30
Height:: 1.74
Body type: Muscular
Job:: Sport expert
Ope Date:: 5 July 2018
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Staying: (1 Week)
Clinica Diagonal 10/9,5:
it s a new modern Hospital where you feel yourself relax, the room has all things i need ( wardrobe with pincode, safe case, shower, tv, air condition,beautiful barcelona view etc)
Personal/Nurses 10/9,5 :
They are so kind and helper although they can barely speak english ,but somehow you understand each other,i i meet some a few personell at reception,Elena and someone else, They helped me to find online restaurant to order something. it s just a example, i tell openly you can't find the same situation in my country cos People are not like that.
And Nurses are working so like Bee, you will stay inside your comfort zone. Everyday 3 meals. cleaning, check-up etc
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Operation Day 0 :
it was afternoon at 15:30, all in the same day(test, x ray,blood) were done!
while i was waiting ope time, i was listening motivational music , i had no worry no anxious nothing, i was so relaxed, i m a bit crazy (calm,coldblodded)
i awoke in post surgery room, everything was like it happened nothing, i was accustomed to anesthesia :) Pain Level 0/10
Day 1 ( 6 July 2018)
it can say the first 1-2 day is challenge because it s obviously normal that your body is faced with a new situation that never happened before, you can't move not too much. Dr Monegal visited me and said Having a perfect operation with minimal scar incision. i think He did recently more bilateral ope. Mine was piece of cake :)
Pain Level 0/10
1.Epidural in your spine
2. i didnt want catheter in Penis
3. IV in Arm
Day 2
it s better than first day but interestingly, i had a headache, i talked it with Monegal and Anastheist.they said it s pretty normal.Reason could be epidural in spine, they removed it, you know everybody is different and body reacts in different way. Pain Level 0/10 in my legs
i went to toilet very carefully with crutches , it was amazing feeling step by step, and later had shower, Carol who has the same height 1,74 makes me always laugh with her spanish , i try to learn Spanish" necesito un poco de practico: it means i need practice,
i took X ray ,it looks very good,Dr said.
CPM Machine time: i did it today with Physiotherapist, device bend my knee 60° angle about 30 min and then Dr Monegal visited me, we watched game between Croatia-Russia.
He showed me some exercises, Hip Flexion, i said i can't do it and put a towel under my knee and i succeed it. He has really very knowledge about everything.
Day 3 Today
No Headache, i m sleeping very well since first day and started the day good, Nice Breakfast, some check up, some spanish learn and writing to you on my bed.i will do some exercises Hip flexion, a little walk, i feel myself better, as i said, first 1-2 days are really challenge in term of adaptation .
Pain Level 0/10
Meanwhile After one week staying, i move to Mic St.Jordi. i visited there before i come here, there are now 6-7 patient. i talked with them, they were doing very well, Physio etc. but i think im the one Unilateral Patient. i explain later why i do it.
last word about Dr. Monegal
we had appointment last year for operation, We kept in touch and he always replied my questions quickly and organized everything very clearly, He draw a optimum plan for Ope Date,
after i came here, We had lunch at 14:00 at Clinica Diagonal like a friend so shortly He is Special One who cares all of his patients and very skilled Surgeon with his innovative technique .i can say that just visit him or make an appointment , you understand what i mean. I believe and trust him and myself in this Journey.
Stay Strong !
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Great going man,
1. What is your target for internal femurs?
2. 2 stage means? :-\
3. How has the recovery from tibia been for you?
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@sidvicious
1.i dont have a certain target.i will listen to my body.i will do as much as i can.
2.Two stage( unilateral lengthening ) first of all , you do one leg lengthening , after finished it, start the second Leg. Read some diary ;) (Yagen,Auron etc)
3.I returned back %100 to my pre Ope Athletic abilities because This is My Job. i worked very hard.
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4.Day
My swelling is getting better. Dr Monegal removed the bandage, it s nice again to see my Leg.After 3 day, I started the my daily program ( Leg circle,hip flexion, isometric exercise etc) i have to return back very strong.
I Got 82* with CPM machine. Second day was 60 , it s improving.
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Sexy Leg is on the way 8)
i started to walk along the corridors easily with two crutches. My arms are very strong, My core stability is enough good to keep my balance. Meanwhile i did first Left Leg.
Morning s summary;
i took a shower when i waked up,it makes me feel energetic then i had some breakfast, after a while Physio visited me like everyday,We walked together and talked about some details.He said that im walking very well.Later on Dear CPM machine as you see(it will move the knee through a range of motion without you need to use his or her muscles to move the leg) it s just a part of treatment.
then i had lunch
Foods
i have to say the Food are really delicious it s better than i expected:Today s menu: Beef/Patato,Spanish Spagetti,sweet yogurt, bread. A beautiful lady visits you everyday and ask your choice for Meals.
as i said im really in good Hands...
i will rest now and again will do my own routine. i can't wait to watch the biggest Semi-Final France-Belgium
Keep strong,My Friends
Buenas Tardes!
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great, thanks for the diary... Can you tell us more about your first operation? And why dr Monegal seems the only one to do one segment at a time... do other docs underestimate the risks?
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What is the average cost of two stage internal femur with Dr. Monegal?
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6.day
Start Lengthening-Removing Stitches
my Daily routine seems almost like that ..
- 06;00 Check by Nurses( blood pressure, body temperature etc)
08:00 Wake Up
08:30 Breakfast ( my choice: Milch,bread or croissant, cheese, Jambon)
09:30 having shower
10:00 Cleaning & Bed ( Changing the sheet etc)
11:00 Physiotherapy ( Walking, strengthening,CPM machine(i got 90 , it takes 1 hour )
13:30 Lunch
15:00 Resting/Reading/Watching
17:00 5 o clock Tea
18:30 Physiotherapy
19 30: Dinner/ Dr Monegal visiting everyday
23:00 Nurse Check/Sleeping
Pain Level:
Last two days I didn’t take any painkiller . It increased 10/6 but that day I had done lots of walking(15min with short intervals) with 2 crutches and rehabilitation.Pain is like a discomfort, soreness. Today I took just Nolotin and Pain Level 10/2. Sleeping is very well. If you stand up and walking without medication , 10/3-4. this is not unbearable. Come on,We are not fking little boy!

Scar:
I will show a photos of my scars very soon , they are looking very good, The Nurse didnt notice whether it is scar or not while Dr. Monegal was removing it. 10/10
Lengthening :
I started to today lengthening.Dr Monegal explained me everything very well and draw a routine( split)
I do now 1 mm. Lengthening is easy for now.i think there is no need to explain how it works. Meanwhile I bet him for that Final Match But England couldnt even reach Final. I will take Boss to Dinner.
Mental:
I feel better mentally because the first 2-3 (maybe 4) days were big challenge. You know i was doing sport everyday and now it s like a prison break :) everything is limited. YOU HAVE TO KNOW ; This is not a walk in park but Pain is temporary , Height is always with you. Look! It has been 7 years since my tibia operation. It passed so quickly.i was happy with my Height and There is one thing in this life that you can’t buy, „TIME“ i couldn't able to do this operation in future.
I spent very good times after T.ope , healed very well, enjoyed my life , that s why follow your dreams, do things that make you feel happy .
Lunch
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Room View
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11.day
i moved to Mic before 5 days ago and will spend 2 weeks before i return to Home. Until now lengthened approx. 0,5cm with 1 mm per day
Pain Level
0-1/10 and i took 1 painkiller until now during lengthening.
Recommendations;
- if you want to do one Stage Op. you should train absolutely your triceps not to overweight L.Leg and core training to keep your balance better. it mean you may walk at least 15 min constantly with resting.
-if you take painkiller, you dont feel anything on leg.it s like you feel you walk without crutches thats why i try not to take something.
-Mic is very ideal place for the people who come from abroad, everything is designed well for disabled person. i rented a double room, there is everything inside. Kitchen for Cooking,adjustable bed ( like in Hospital),Air Condition etc and Small Pool, Phsiyotherapy room, Cafe direct on entry. There are some restaurant and market along the street.I saw the other patients they go shopping with wheelchair, big admiration !
-there is some good applications: Glovo: you can order your food. A nice meal cost about 12-15€ or you can cook in your apartment.
-There is 6-7 L.L Warriors staying here now. Dr. Monegal visit us frequently , last time was a like international Meeting.
Physiothereapy
Pt Alberto visit the patiens Mic.i watched a few times. it s certainly worth. im not Physiotherapist but i know what i should do, however i will take a pt from him.
i can bend my knee 90°.i do training everyday. it lasts 45 min *2 times. Doing some isometric strength, active passive exercises, stretching etc and walking.
Mentally
As i said, this is my second operation and i was knowing what kind of obstacles i will face to. However i m working still to stay strong and cope with this.
that makes me tough!
Duke s word in Rocky IV film:
"Now you're gonna have to go through hell. Worse than any nightmare you ever dreamed. But in the end, I know you'll be the one standing"...
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Life Since 5 Day
Leaving from Hospital (http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u530/vanillasky21/IMG_4021_zpsd1ugqn7i.jpg) (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/vanillasky21/media/IMG_4021_zpsd1ugqn7i.jpg.html)
From Clinica Diagonal to Mic: Distance 5,5 km:15 Min
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Way to Dinner way in Taxi
Price: 9,30€ for 3,5 km distance
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Dinner
15€ pro Person
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any update?
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25.Day
L.L Is really like a American Football game.it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication. you have to be enough tough but positive too. so...
i had met very nice people in Mic and we shared a lot of good things in 2 weeks, i hope i see them when i come back,They are true Warriors, i admire them cos All of them had done Bilateral, they were at the end of lengthening phase. i was the one Unilateral boy.but until now i m happy for this decision.
before i leave there, a few new guys from England and Mexican were visiting Mic and had positive consultation with Dr Monegal.
i returned back to Home a few day ago, it was a challenge day.i got off from plane by using boarding stairs and then got on the Airport bus. Sticks are my helper.
How about the life?
Dr Monegal insisted on using outsoles. i m using special shoe at home and enough mobile to do something. i try to be conservative and use always 2 crutches. Pain is 1-2 /10 during the day but nights tension a little bit higher, i take tramadol and some pills if i need.
i m thinking to visit Dr.Monegal every three weeks to take x ray and to be checked up etc.
we are always in contact,altough he is so busy.
i do lot s of stretching, isometric exercises( quadriceps, hamstrings, adductors, glute) Im using strap for stretch and massage bar to relieve muscle.
walking is important too. i have a little bit extension problem, i try to keep my leg straight on lying and while putting my heel first on ground by walking
Stay Strong!
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thanks for the update. Seems you are doing well. Keep up the good work :)
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41 Day
i visited recently Dr. Monegal to get second "X-Ray" and "Check Up"
i would like to share this journey that lasted 4-5 hours ( Airplane,Taxi,some walking around etc)
Journey
Departure
First of all i didnt request any help (wheelchair)provided by airport , i was walking with two crutches.
I boarded the aircraft after I had gone through the security check.they dont ask for any paper. I just kindly said that i had op and can't walk, however I had carried ope.paper with me
just a small note: if you have any metal thing inside your body, it s not problem.
Boarding was not through the tunnel, i had have to need climb some stairs down and got on airport bus like other people and then climbed aircraft stairs up
Everything was alright.that was the first round!
before journey, i got just a small painkiller.
climbing stairs down is pretty easy. Physiotherapist will teach you how to do it in Clinica Diagonal but Climbing up is a little bit difficult. i should practice it more.
Arrive
after i got taxi in front of airport, it was a little bit early, i sat down in a cafe, had a relax(ZERO pain until now) and i waited Dr. Monegal. We met in front of the hospital and it was 2. X Ray Time
The gap showed 3,9 cm ( did everyday 0,99mm ).
After Dr. Monegal checked X ray, he was very happy like me.
He was doing goal celebration, He is caring and passionated about his Job. Especially His osteotomy technique provides you good-callus growth.After a while, i was very hungry, We ate something.
My return plane was the same day evening and i had a much time to do something
but what a luck that Airport was on Dr. Monegal route and he left me to airport. It was a little bit early.but i waited on Lounge of departure and backed to my country.
i got off the plane again without tunnel( stair and airport bus) it was second challenge for me and until exit it was a long walk distance. whenever i came to home, i was destroyed. it was a very tiring day
Lastly
it s one big advantage of Two stages operation. You are mobile, not like horse but you can do basic things at least. i think i made right choice but we will see it, it s early yet to make a comment.
Stay Strong!
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54. Day
5cm
i think i am at the end of tunnel. Muscle tension got bigger and feel normally some muscle pull on medial side. it may be normal that i have done just two days rest until now and go on with 0,99 mm (33 pulse).Before ope, Due to my muscle structure ( bulky), i give good effort.
5 cm is obviously big difference that s why i can continue until 6,5 or less if my body allows me to stay there.
i have been doing straining since 3-4 weeks at home. 3 times per week :it s Push up(3*35Rep)- inverted row with sling(3*15), pull up(3*Max). because i lost enough thigh muscle and keep upper body alive at least:)
i avoid too much weight load on operated leg and use outsole, Dr Monegal recommended every 10 days put 1 cm lift. i walk with two crutches very well and having shower,do daily stuff , cooking is not a problem, i stand without crutches and sometimes use other leg to reach something. i had recommended that before ope, train lots of (core) abs muscle for better balance and stability if you think to do Two stage op.
a trick for you: if i want to carry something computer or heavy thing, i put it in bag and move to other room.
Daily, i am working on computer and every three hours, i do 30-45 some routines ( 1X leg Strength training, stretching and knee extension exercises)
the other point: Bending knee 90-100° and loss of knee extension 5-10° i think i can fix it better after lengthening. i recommend do knee extension 3*10 Min to with weight and without weight.
Last night, I felt a really good pain 10/7 it lasted 1-2 min around knee and went off.
during day it s ok 1-2/10. i take the pills nights. it s better for sleep.
Stay Strong!
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Hi Americanfootball,
Hopefully you will finish legthenging and best recovery. ! Because you are doing two stage op, do you need to see physical therapy or you can do all exercises by yourself? Do you need caretaker after post op or you can do most of things by yourself? When do you plan for second operation? I am planing to do two stage as well.
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So happy to hear that , your strong positive man
Hope you will better soon ,
I am 34 years old female will do it in coming months with dr Baumgart
Are you using the fitbone ??
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@bestrong
thanks.i do it by myself ( all exercises) but I had discussed it with Dr. Monegal before operation, everything is under his Control but i think everybody needs a physical therapy who do this operation. that s why i recommend to hire a good Physiotherapist. i m a bit Veteran and Crazy in terms of training but also conservative.i dont do anything without My Doctor s permission.
i try to push it harder. 4-5 times each 50-60 min, everyday. of course it doesn't mean everything will be good. My goal is to minimize the risks and recover as much as possible.
it depends on you that s why i did one stage to do things better alone and return to my life normally.i m living not alone but i can do most of things on my own.
For Second operation, After i got enough callus or can be able to walk, i will do second, probably at the end of October or November. it may take time one month or half once finished lengthening. Dr. Monegal will decide it, He explains everything every step when the time comes.i focused on finishing lengthening phase now.
@M.s
thank you. i hope so.
No Dr Monegal is using Fitbone , i just carry the Fitbone heheheh :)
Good Luck.
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One Message to Notatroll without Reply!
are you continuing to make up stories? why are you accusing of Dr. Monegal instead of yourself!
maybe you didn't get your butt up during process and all day lied down and cried like baby Pain Pain or you haven't done nothing to minimize all of risk. but it s pretty easy huh! saying that everything happened because of him Dont mislead People.
Normally i dont give a fk such a troll people who misuse the forum instead of finding solution.
as this my second operation, although Dr Betz, Dr Guichet, or another Doctors are so near where i lived , i decided on Dr. Monegal and best decision until now, I m doing very well why! i work my ass off to get well. Everyday doing 1 2 3 4 5 session. of course it doesn't mean i won't have problem in future.
Everybody will have a minor or major problem. Because This is big OPERATION! What you should do is that minimize those risks. My advice You are your own Doctor too.
Of Course,Doctor s skills, behaviors, experiments, methods play a important role but not Everything.
He has lot s of successful case , he can have a few bad case.Every Doctor can have a bad case. A Simple example: My Old friend was doing external tibia and he had bad infection because of having everyday hot bath. or A Girl who i knew was very lazy and had non union problem.
sorry but this operation is not proper for Pussies. Male or Female.
They need have strong mind and grinding everyday, having patience , staying positive and calm and trust their Doctor. and I forgot that LUCK!!!
Before everything, He is reputed a doctor like us who has a family, friends, environment. dont throw mud at unconsciously.
Stay Strong!
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One Message to Notatroll without Reply!
are you continuing to make up stories? why are you accusing of Dr. Monegal instead of yourself!
maybe you didn't get your butt up during process and all day lied down and cried like baby Pain Pain or you haven't done nothing to minimize all of risk. but it s pretty easy huh! saying that everything happened because of him Dont mislead People.
Normally i dont give a fk such a troll people who misuse the forum instead of finding solution.
as this my second operation, although Dr Betz, Dr Guichet, or another Doctors are so near where i lived , i decided on Dr. Monegal and best decision until now, I m doing very well why! i work my ass off to get well. Everyday doing 1 2 3 4 5 session. of course it doesn't mean i won't have problem in future.
Everybody will have a minor or major problem. Because This is big OPERATION! What you should do is that minimize those risks. My advice You are your own Doctor too.
Of Course,Doctor s skills, behaviors, experiments, methods play a important role but not Everything.
He has lot s of successful case , he can have a few bad case.Every Doctor can have a bad case. A Simple example: My Old friend was doing external tibia and he had bad infection because of having everyday hot bath. or A Girl who i knew was very lazy and had non union problem.
sorry but this operation is not proper for Pussies. Male or Female.
They need have strong mind and grinding everyday, having patience , staying positive and calm and trust their Doctor. and I forgot that LUCK!!!
Before everything, He is reputed a doctor like us who has a family, friends, environment. dont throw mud at unconsciously.
Stay Strong!
I have respected you and your diary. I have never come here to discredit your experience. SO I beg you to respect me and not discredit my experience or call me a pussy because you don't know anything about my experience and all my friends'. I'm not making up anything. Readers of the forum, think about this. Who is going to give a more objective opinion, the guy who doesn't depend on the doctor like me or the guy who still depends on him to do his second leg? I'm pretty sure the doctor has brainwashed this guy to attack me as he did with Helloworld, Musicmaker and Auron. He's famous for that.
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I have respected you and your diary. I have never come here to discredit your experience. SO I beg you to respect me and not discredit my experience or call me a pussy because you don't know anything about my experience and all my friends'. I'm not making up anything. Readers of the forum, think about this. Who is going to give a more objective opinion, the guy who doesn't depend on the doctor like me or the guy who still depends on him to do his second leg? I'm pretty sure the doctor has brainwashed this guy to attack me as he did with Helloworld, Musicmaker and Auron. He's famous for that.
To Notatroll and Generally speaking :
it s not important that you respect me. all i ask is that you respect Dr. Monegal as a human being without make up nonsense story.what interesting is that you aren’t even a Patient, your worry, misleading people and get avoid them from doing LL with Dr. Monegal
why do you that?
Please believe me, if i hadn’t seen your this effort , i would have written even you because I came here to give info about my process, good or bad.
Dont Worry, i m here and will be here after second operation and later and continue to share my experience.Besides,
Hey People!! i call out you !
what would you think about, if someone who doesn’t do even operation, open many different accounts with names and always try to producing lie claim „without proof“ and misleading all people ? Is it fair? is it objectiveness ?
my advice: first of all, make an appointment with Doctor, ask everything, visit and see Patients and dont decide immediately.
what i try to explain for everyone: I m so motivated,tough,brave for L.L but still learning to build a strong mindset during this Process, I say yes: this operation is not easy, but i m not a pussy-minded. This is my life , this is my destination.this is my journey, i analyzed My doctor with enough successful case, method,charachter, overall scoop and remain He must do a professional job!
That is not Brainwashed! that is my mindset.
i do my best but if i face to a problem that can happen normally , i give my best effort to solve it not myself with my Doctor. He is the only one who can help you. you dont have another chance once you decided your Doctor and of course you will need always a some Luck.
Stay Strong!
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Why do you say I'm not a patient? I proved I was a patient to mods. I had a bad result and I can post my opinion as you post yours. Wish you good luck with your legs
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I agree Dr Monegal and their patients deserve respect. Patients have their right to post their opinions, but they should back up their claims while respecting each other. That’s not the case of some trolls here. Users who publish other patients’ X-rays or talk about them without their permission are committing a serious offence and deserve punishment (ban). Please, respect patients’ privacy. Long live Dr Monegal.
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69 Day.
6cm
i got new X Ray yesterday. Callus growth, alignment etc are looking fine and optimal.
Before it, Dr. Monegal checked my progress whether everything is alright and He made some assessment , Knee extension, flexion, tightness. He said it can better and showed me some exercises and technique to relax muscle which got incredibly relieved after his doing some massage and short therapy. you know i was doing all things by myself , i asked him politely: Can i hire you as my therapist ? lol.
i want do 7cm at most. i think i need more 2 weeks. i feel tightness cos i gave myself just two-three days break until now.
I had enough time to get my Flight in evening, in the mean time, i visited Mic, met new patients from 3 continents, A guy from Mexico was doing Bilateral Femur, Another Guy from China was doing Femur and Tibia in the one Leg, it s really impressive, i admire his effort and last A Guy from Ghana was there for appointment.
Dr Monegal had to leave as Fitbone company CEO was here for a meeting.
then I, Mexican Guy, Ghana Guy went to La Rambla by train to eat something. then from there, i got bus to go airport. For me, The terrible thing that happened to me was delaying of my flight for 3 hours.
when i came to home, i was so tired. was not painful but Soreness was too much!
Stay Strong!
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85.Day
7,4 cm
Hey hey what s up Homiess!
i finished first part of lengthening and got new X Ray on 26 September and Gap is 7,4cm. i have clicked totally 75 days with 1mm and got 74 mm on X ray it means "My Clicks" and X-rays are the same!
i m now approx 1.80m(5.11), maybe after fixed knee extension , get more gains. Dr Monegal doesn't want to me being taller than him,lol :D we were the same, he is surely solid 1.80m (5.11) and admire his effort that he tries to improve himself with new developments , He went to Basel for new Fitbone Conference.
After got x ray,( the same day:morning-evening) i fly back to my country.Before i leave there, i have enough time to visit the friends in Mic, We hang out all the day.They were doing well. i had my hair cut , There is cool shops like Restaurants, Hairdress,Supermarket cross the street opposite to Mic (you can reach easily with Wheelchair too)
Good News:
No bend , no screw loose No Accuracy ! Bone growth is good and i can now walk with "One Crutches" it s amazing feeling even if walking with one. Dr said : we can do another surgery on November.
Bad News:
my muscle are so tight and can't bend my knee much, only 90° and i lost muscles although i train it. i think they are pretty normal, i need to work hard to get them back. every 3 weeks visiting Doctor and return the country the same day made me so tired(i m a fking crazy BEAST :) i couldn't take X-ray in my country,because of my job and privacy things. i live in small city.
Recommends:
+ Physotherapy is very important! Doing alone is completely different thing. Hire a good physiotherapist
+ Do lots of especially quadriceps, hamstrings, adductors stretch before operation.
+ Improve your mindset, prepare yourself for the worst scenario. ( i have still second operation, i have to prepare myself too)
STAY STRONG!
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I hear many good things about Dr Monegal. If I did femurs he would be my choice, no idea why some people talk so badly about him. ???
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@Bry
because the easiest way would be that. Because you need just a simple keyboard and a little bit manipulation stories and of course different accounts ;)
you know i had read all of them about Dr. Monegal before i decided to do operation but i made an appointment with him,after that i understood and realized how Most of them are such a funny stories.
i saw many successful case and had enough reason to select him
i know there are no perfect Doctor, Nobody is Perfect, Every Doctor can have a bad case!
Success depends on a lot of factor, i just advise everyone to make an appointment before final decision
no matter which Doctor...
STAY STRONG!
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What amount of money is considered to save for internal femurs with Dr. Mongeal?
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@lucindaris
Operation Cost (Two stage) + Hospital Staying
18900€/leg*2=37.800€
Accomodation: Mic St Jordi Normal Price
1380€ Single Room per month
1620€ Double Room " "
Cost of Medicaments were approx 100€
Phsyotherapy is between 30-40€ per session( I recommend it at least 2 times)
Foods(good meal) are cheap like 12€-15€.There are some app, they bring food to your residence.
In my case, I stayed there two weeks and returned back to home.
Stay Strong!
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This is the Last X-Ray. everything is allright. i solved knee extension, it s almost straight. i work hard on knee flexion. i eat a lot, take just calcium, vitamin and some minerals. Training routine based on more knee mobility then stretching and at the end, muscle relaxing with foam roller. it s really interesting. i teach my muscles how to gain pre ope function like teaching a baby new things.After increased loading on operated leg, muscles got some gains( size). Lastly, i wait the second op soon.
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u530/vanillasky21/ee8462f5-1aec-485e-8568-aec6772b0941_zpslrmlvayy.jpg) (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/vanillasky21/media/ee8462f5-1aec-485e-8568-aec6772b0941_zpslrmlvayy.jpg.html)
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This is the Last X-Ray. everything is allright. i solved knee extension, it s almost straight. i work hard on knee flexion. i eat a lot, take just calcium, vitamin and some minerals. Training routine based on more knee mobility then stretching and at the end, muscle relaxing with foam roller. it s really interesting. i teach my muscles how to gain pre ope function like teaching a baby new things.After increased loading on operated leg, muscles got some gains( size). Lastly, i wait the second op soon.
(http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u530/vanillasky21/ee8462f5-1aec-485e-8568-aec6772b0941_zpslrmlvayy.jpg) (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/vanillasky21/media/ee8462f5-1aec-485e-8568-aec6772b0941_zpslrmlvayy.jpg.html)
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Congratulations on the result, we know how painful it is but your determination inspires us.
about your results I'm with a doubt,
You mention at the beginning that you were 1.74 and the final result was 74 mm
1.74 + 0.74 = 1.814 m But you say that it is 1.80m solid Is this difference because your legs are still not 100% recovered? Sorry for the doubt I may not have intended because of the translation.
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Congratulations on the result, we know how painful it is but your determination inspires us.
about your results I'm with a doubt,
You mention at the beginning that you were 1.74 and the final result was 74 mm
1.74 + 0.74 = 1.814 m But you say that it is 1.80m solid Is this difference because your legs are still not 100% recovered? Sorry for the doubt I may not have intended because of the translation.
If you read correctly, at the time he measured himself he was having knee extension problems so his posture wasnt fully straight. He just said his knee extension problem is gone and can fully extend his knees so im sure if he measures himself now he will be a tad bit taller.
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From 5'8 to almost 6 ft tall, wow, congrats man. Good luck with your next surgery!
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great consolidation!! have a good recovery.
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Did you got 2 surgeries ?? I mean first "6,5-7 cm with Tibia lengthening 6 years ago" & now again for few inches ?? is it true ?
Thanks.
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Day+108
hey hey what s up guys?
@6.2dream
thanks, after recover well, i can get more a few cm, Knee extension became much better than before however not fully straight( pre-op) and on the otherside, you should think some matter like spine compression or even postural problems which may reduce temporarily peak height,i think Measuring exact amount or calculation depends on lots of factor. the most important is to be close your dream height and feel enough tall and have good proportion.
Dylansaga yagen
thanks, my friends!
montahn
yeah, tibia(around 6,5cm) and now femur( around 7.4cm)
i will visit Dr.Monegal next week and see my L.L friends and try to write you from there. My mexican mate who stays in Mic says that they wait for me to make Tequila party :)
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Hey American Football,
Congrats on your progress! Dr. Monegal fixed up my femurs in 2016. Next May Dr. Monegal is going to remove the fitbone device from my femur and he is going to be performing an encore on my tibias next May. Maybe i missed it in an earlier post, when are you planning on getting your other femur done?
Cheers!
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Day+108
hey hey what s up guys?
@6.2dream
thanks, after recover well, i can get more a few cm, Knee extension became much better than before however not fully straight( pre-op) and on the otherside, you should think some matter like spine compression or even postural problems which may reduce temporarily peak height,i think Measuring exact amount or calculation depends on lots of factor. the most important is to be close your dream height and feel enough tall and have good proportion.
Dylansaga yagen
thanks, my friends!
montahn
yeah, tibia(around 6,5cm) and now femur( around 7.4cm)
i will visit Dr.Monegal next week and see my L.L friends and try to write you from there. My mexican mate who stays in Mic says that they wait for me to make Tequila party :)
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Damn, you've gone from 5'8 to 6'2? what's your wingspan? Can you give us a before and after pic? Maybe I should go all in and attempt 6'2, having a negative 1-2 wingspan would kinda suck tho.
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Beware. He didn't do tibia with Monegal. He has only done 1 femur with him. He isn't his final height yet … and he isn't 6'2. Do the maths
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Beware. He didn't do tibia with Monegal. He has only done 1 femur with him. He isn't his final height yet … and he isn't 6'2. Do the maths
@troll
Are you my press secretary?
dont enter this Zone unless i allow it!
I respond to everybody s sensible questions .
If you want write something,Create yourself a topic. Put there your rational case and of course your X Rays! then you are allowed to write here.
@thatguy
i replied someone a nickname with 6.2 dream.i m not 6.2 but i can be 6,2 with shoes :) i will share photo after completed everything. in my opinion Wingspan is not vital important if you have good body shape.People dont realize how your wingspan is. The most important is to be tall and have good body shape. My body proportion is looking good for Adult Male according to research. My lower and upper body are proportional. if i hadn't done tibia, it would have seen weird ( Long femur and short tibia). you can be concerned about it than wingspan.
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Did I lie? I only told the truth. You did tibias with other surgeon. You've done only one femur with Monegal. People don't read the whole diary and get a wrong idea.
@troll
Are you my press secretary?
dont enter this Zone unless i allow it!
I respond to everybody s sensible questions .
If you want write something,Create yourself a topic. Put there your rational case and of course your X Rays! then you are allowed to write here.
@thatguy
i replied someone a nickname with 6.2 dream.i m not 6.2 but i can be 6,2 with shoes :) i will share photo after completed everything. in my opinion Wingspan is not vital important if you have good body shape.People dont realize how your wingspan is. The most important is to be tall and have good body shape. My body proportion is looking good for Adult Male according to research. My lower and upper body are proportional. if i hadn't done tibia, it would have seen weird ( Long femur and short tibia). you can be concerned about it than wingspan.
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Hi Americanfotballer!
Congratulations! Do you have recent X rays?
How is your progress? How is life with a longer leg? I had a discrepancy for more than 10 years but my solution was different than limb lengthening.
When are you doing your second leg? Stay strong
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4th Month after initial OP.
This is SPARTA! MY LAST X RAY ! i m just fighting and surviving !
to be continued...!
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Hey hey what s up !Guys 8)
There is an issue that I should tell you.
You know i had said that I was going to do operation this month but i will wait because I haven’t stopped the lengthening yet. I decided to push my limit to reach maximum Because I had no complications except for knee flexion problem. being taller is the most amazing feel in this world. I discussed it with Monegal, He is so conservative and warned me about risks but i convinced him.
I will keep going until reach solid 1.82(6.0) I’m around there but I want to make it absolutely clear without magnification decrease etc.
As you see, my consolidation is very good. I push my routine 4 times 9 pulse with Doctor mode which gives more potencie!
We will see it.
Meanwhile
I stopped calcium or any other things for time being.
Normally I can walk without crutches . Dr Monegal had let me to walk without c. after saw last x Ray. But I prefer not doing it so much.
Wish me luck...
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what will you do if your other leg has issues while lengthening? like if you get serve nerve pain at 3cm in the other leg, you cant continue? You cant even stop because your legs will be of different length each.
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what will you do if your other leg has issues while lengthening? like if you get serve nerve pain at 3cm in the other leg, you cant continue? You cant even stop because your legs will be of different length each.
You are right my friend but
I wasn't brought up in the woods to be scared by owls.
I prepare my second leg well as possible as I can. Muscle flexibility,
Tissue extensibility etc.
I think it may be easy because that is not stiff as before or doing it slowly
can decrease nerve problem. Fortunately I havent experienced such a nerve problem with first leg.
So lets see it what will happen.
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146 th Day
Hey hey What s up everybody?
i finished lengthening completely this time on 23th November because The Fitbone have reached it s maximum and doesnt give any sound.It s good to know where to stop. The last stage was obviously hard. i pushed it everyday 4 times 9 pulse = 1,08 mm, during that time, i worked like a crazy, 4-5 times stretching per day and did lots of knee mobility exercises to prevent stiffness and maintain functionality of that area but Pay attention ! after bone having good consolidation like in my case , you get less cm what you lengthened that s why it took time to reach maximum. (i must not have had a break so much) i think One leg femur operation has a disadvantage( ;)lol) that your bone consolidates well enough because of moving,weightbearing , being active etc
About Measurement :
i followed x ray routine, measured myself and compared operated femur ,non operated femur. if you do unilateral ( two stage operation) it s big advantage that measure and compare femur at every stage that gives you some clear prediction.
1. Measure: X Ray
2.Measure; From ASIS(Anterior superior iliac spine) to Mid-Patella
3.Measure: (lateral)From The Head of Femur to the joint of the knee
you can also choose another way of approaching the measurement. i used those 3 way.
I gave up the medication. i was using 50 mg Tramadol, low dose muscle relaxant.
As a Supplement ; i am taking Calcium(1000-1500mg),Multivitamin,protein powder, eating well. taking not a special thing.
About training routine :
i apply special Oil( warm up)with massage before start training and then 10 -15 minutes standing hip flexion extension with skateboard, standing knee flexion extension with skateboard, side skater lung( to stretch and increase tissue extensibility of adductor muscle),it works very good, ,i ride skateboard under my operated foot like forward backward or laterally while keeping my balance with my good leg and finally doing static stretch 3-5 times 20-30 sec per muscle group and using foam roller for regeneration.Besides a few physiotherapy session( i would definitely recommend it in addition to your program) That was my routine in general. Interestingly, sometimes you need really just a skateboard however please consult your physician before apply any exercise.
Conclusion:
Until now I'm very happy with result. i feel myself tall and stronger mentally . it s really big difference when i compare myself by standing on operated leg( new height) and standing on good leg(old height)
Morever,Next to my girlfriend who is 1.65 m (5'4), i m a bit Tower lol
i was going to do my operation this week but He is in Portugal to give information his own operation approach to committee so I informed Doctor Monegal about my schedule and op dates that are the earliest possible time. He will arrange and organize it. i think it will be in two weeks and i m planing to stay there one week and back to home.
Upps forgot! Meanwhile, i can walk with one crutches enough well, without crutches just a short distance at home, i couldn't fix my knee flexion problem to get Rom above 90° because i pushed a little bit hard and won't be giving enough time to heal fully until second operation starts) i dont want to wait anymore.i hope i overcome it.Second part will be really big challenge.On another subject,Pain level became never problem for me,i had uncomfortable time especially during first second months due to sleeping position but it was not unbearable, also i have lots of tattoos so maybe my pain level is high.Furthermore think about it! “Nothing in the world is worth having or worth doing unless it means effort, pain, difficulty
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Hi Everyone
First of all, i wish you a bright and happy new year!
so let s start it.
Second Operation: 13 December 2018
Stayed one week in Hospital and returned to home.Before i share the last x ray, i want to give some details. Operation went well. Dr Monegal removed cable on first leg, it s the same process for the second leg. After discussed with Anesthetist,We decided to prefer this time Femoral block. it means that it blocks the pain only from hip to knee on right side compare to Epidural that blocks all part of legs. i didn't need to have catheter.i was moving my legs. it was more comfortable than i expected.Pain level was 1-2/10.
During one week, i did 2 times physiotherapy. i realized that Right Leg flexibility was better than first leg.
Dr Monegal visited me every day, i tried to stand up with his help. i was taller than him :D, he was a little bit upset, jajajaj. He asked me everyday what i need. Medical team(Nurse,Physio,He etc) is always around you and you dont feel lonely.
Return to Home:
it has been unbelievable experiment for me. i had booked already tickets but i had no power to go home. i had still swelling. i wasn't imaging to reach home by walking like first operation.
First operated leg had enough consolidation to support me but i didn't know i was not ready to move. i think i felt exhausted mentally. Many thanks to Dr Monegal brought a wheelchair and we went to airport with his car then it was so funny he was running and driving wheelchair. everything was fine with wheelchair but later? My friend took me from airport. it was ok to get in car. but problem how could be able to reach home after got out of car because i wasn't be able to walk and even if stand! so i laid down on cold ground , my friend hold my legs like push up positions. i walked and climbed stairs with upper body :))) we were laughing loudly at home hahah. so after a few days, i was feeling better and started to stand up and walk. Now everything is ok. i m walking with crutches and reached 2-3 cm.
yesterday i removed the stitches myself at home. i didn't go to hospital for this, i dont wanna hear from people what happened questions? it makes me so boring.
Now only problem is knee flexion on first leg . Knee extension is perfect. i hope i solve this as soon as possible. Pain without drugs is more during nights, you know i was using not much painkiller but now i take tramadol 100 mg nights, makes me so relieved.
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Hi my friends,
it was taken on 13th December, approx 5 months after initial operation.
as i said, i had reached maximum limit, when you take magnification factor into consideration, got fully 8 cm.
(https://beta-static.photobucket.com/images/u530/vanillasky21/0/b8ceab92-8bc3-409e-a5b2-ff53133d8660-original.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://beta.photobucket.com/u/vanillasky21/p/b8ceab92-8bc3-409e-a5b2-ff53133d8660)
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Congrats Man keep updating!
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Hello everyone, 7.month
Don t worry, I m not dead :) you know, the second stage is like a first stage, but I want to give some crucial details about my physical progress and experience.
Key points:
-Number 1: I recommend strongly that before you do operation, do lots of quadriceps strech, of course other parts are so important but Quadriceps is a kind of strong muscle and Vastus lateralis which is one of the quadriceps muscle,streching it is effectively impossible during the treatment when your muscle start to become tight. The only way is massage.Keep your muscles flexible.
-Number 2 : After surgery,when swelling goes down, keep your joints as mobile as possible by riding bicycle and using skateboard would be perfect option to maintain knee flexion and extension( sitting somewhere and doing forward backward)
-Number 3: absolutely doing 3-4 times physiotherapy per week.
so I reached almost 5cm for other leg, I walk with 2 crutches and stand full weight bearing on first operated leg.i had a minor infection on knee, I really didn't understand how it happened and it disappeared in a week( Monegal recommended me some antibiotics). I realised that second leg is much better than first leg as a flexibility, lengthening, muscle tightness etc but of course mentally it s not a walk in park.
it s early to conclude that everything is perfect or bad but I m fine. I visit Dr Monegal next month. I write details.
People reactions : I met my old friends. I swear that first question is you are so tall, what happened to you? I say I weighed down( really lost 10 kg) and had postural problems, bla bla and I'm laughing :) and I say my ego is a little bit high not my height ;)
Meanwhile I keep in touch with people whom I met in Mic. A man who is 50 years old and did 5 cm (from Madrid), he sent me walking and climbing stairs video, his 7 months after initial operation, he has unbelievable joint range of motion.
Another guy from Mexico who did 7,5 and finished lengthening last month proportional looks good, he was trying to ride stationary bicycle but he needs time. A guy from Egypt did second leg after one year ( I asked the reason) He said he was so busy because of job.He was looking good and did second leg.
so Friends, recover recover recover , time time time. 3 words to describe my life. I will continue to share my experiences and will make video for you as soon soon I can able to walk and perhaps run video in future. but I m here, don't worry.
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My job is related to sport and especially soccer. I had always a dream to watch Barcelona game in Noucamp. I’m so lucky and appreciate that my doctor made an suprise for me, I don’t think he need to sale something, Clever people has already choosen him. you don’t need cry again here.
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My job is related to sport and especially soccer. I had always a dream to watch Barcelona game in Noucamp. I’m so lucky and appreciate that my doctor made an suprise for me, I don’t think he need to sale something, Clever people has already choosen him. you don’t need cry again here.
BEWARE. Many former patients have reported being invited to football matches. It's Monegal's sales technique even with prospective patients. Others are invited lunch and dinner and then pushed to write positive reviews in the web. SUCKS. Did you also get a discount? SUCKS. Medicine is not a game.
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post a photo of your full body , so we can see proportions
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If I were an engineer or had another job, I wouldn’t go to match. If Fc Barcelona had been eliminated before , he wouldn’t have invited me to match etc. this happened spontaneously. This is destination. but you incredibly obsessed with him. Whatever I say, your mind create nonsense things. Do me a favour, go to psychiatrist.
I had completed first stage and the second part will be finished soon. I had already paid everything like everybody. that s why I'm taking now best treatment, and doing very well. Quality is not cheap.
Look I’m here not to discuss with you, just simply share my experience with people as I had said it at the beginning. We should aim to be healthy and Nobody needs nobody. Morever in related to my job, I just want to help people with my experience, tips, important points on this way. Because I was at the same position anyway continue to give some useful information in related to my progress.
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Hi everyone,
Left Side: 8.Month after initial ope (8 cm)
Right Side: 3.Month ( 7 cm)
fully weightbearing on left side without problem, I still walking with crutches and doing lengthening at home.
(https://beta-static.photobucket.com/images/u530/vanillasky21/0/460262f1-ce0e-40ee-bf06-353198ed5580-original.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://beta.photobucket.com/u/vanillasky21/p/460262f1-ce0e-40ee-bf06-353198ed5580)
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Hello american football, I'm from South America and I would like to ask you a few questions, what was your initial height before the two surgeries, what is your size, your US shoe size and also who did you warm and what method did you use, it would be very helpful if You answer these questions. I hope that this super good and my best wishes with you
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@zlradamanthys
thanks ! my initial height was between 1.67-1.68 - (5.4ft)- (5.5ft). my body type is the mesomorph, looking very athletic. I love Italian style, fashion and prefer my clothes to be slim and skinny fitting especially now, it suits me well. I remember I was wearing very loose jeans before those operations. L.L realizes your fashion dreams :) Shoe size is "9"U.S. Again! only being taller makes you not good-looking. A shaped Body, Hair Style, Wearing style,Your Education, Your Humour, your Character are important too.
Meanwhile I took last telemetry a few days ago and write you all about details.
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Last uptade: 16.04.2019
we did last week a telemetry of both legs. Right femur was 0,9mm shorter than left after Dr Monegal analysed carefully on computer. But I wasn't fully extended my right leg but almost there that's why we decided to do 6 days 0,8mm and it might be equal with clear extension.it looks apparently the same but you know calculating mm is difficult. Meanwhile before initial operation, my tibia was 0,4 mm longer than the other. I had no problem with that.
when I was there, I met with my older friend who comes from Taragona and had done 5 cm. His progress was really amazing, walking nice and smooth and especially knee flexion was unbelivable. we went to pharmacy and measured our height with shoe, I was 1.84m (6.03 ft) and he was 1.77 (5.9 ft ). his initial height was 1.70m (5.6 ft).His recommendations was that lots of swimming ( doing squat in swimming-pool) and using CPM machine regularly.
Meanwhile, I will visit Monegal tomorrow soon again.
Key Points:
- Left leg consolidation was much better than right. What interesting is that I have done much less clicingk with right foot. I compared it and if you have really good powerful bone growth like me, it makes so much difference. you have to do more clicking. The best thing you can do that taking X rays regularly and follow Doctors instructions. I had visited him every 3 week in there.
- I recommend you certainly and scientifically doing Active Isolated Strech(holding 2 seconds and relax) than static stretch(holding between 30-60 seconds) The reason! After 2 seconds, starting body's protective myotatic reflex and inhibits the stretch potential of a muscle.
During the lengthening, by doing Active isolated stretching, every time a new range of motion is achieved, new neural pathways are produced.
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How did you get from 167 to 184. Did you do both segments? That is a lot of lengthening.
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@concernedmom
if you read it carefully, 1.84 with shoes. I'm solid (1.81-1.81.5m) barefoot and it changes during the day( morning-evening height).
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That is a big change. Congrats!
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@concernedmom
if you read it carefully, 1.84 with shoes. I'm solid (1.81-1.81.5m) barefoot and it changes during the day( morning-evening height).
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Very nice.
You are Mesomorph, right? What is your size and foot size? I have a cousin who has 5'9 and foot size 37 the equivalent of 7.5 in the US, very small. But not so strange.
Now that you have 1.84m of shoes, do you consider yourself tall? And the highest in most environments?
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Uptade: 1 May 2019 : 4.5 month after second leg operation and 10 months after first operation
Hey what s up forum?
there are some news. I finished the lengthening a few week ago and then the second leg cable was removed so that second leg took 3,5 months to reach first leg discrepancy. fortunately I had zero problem with second leg meanwhile as I had said I had bending problem on first leg ( lateral side of quadriceps muscle) it was giving me some pain and discomfort. when I ask lots of friend who they did operation they had said that they hadn't experienced such a weird thing. first of all Dr Monegal wanted me to do physiotherapy and see the progress but it didn't work. He helped me then to meet with a muscle expert in there and I did with him a therapy. Lastly after we discussed it, he checked during the removing operation and solved that problem , removed some adherence ( muscle fascia)
and that pain has gone. I feel better now and get more flexion.i have to push it now. I had never structure problem( as you see on X RAY) , the only problem was that until now. but thanks to Monegal, he followed my progress so close and never slur over: it will be ok it will be ok ! next day after operation day, I went to famous La rambla alone with crutches ( La taverna de Barcelona) it s a fabulous place. the first time I was walking without any insole and outsole. I was feeling amazing and so confident , people were looking at me, I was laughing, smiling , you know it was fking next day after operation. I had to stay on bed but it was a nice night.
Meanhwhile during my consultation , I had meet a with young man from Newyork, after one year , I saw him again there. he was shocked whenever he saw me. cos because I was shorter than him before op, and now I'm a bit taller than him. he was 1.80m ( 5.11ft). this feeling is really incredible. I can't explain it.
Some key points:
+ now Recovery phase. during second leg, I hadn't took any calcium supplement, now I take it again.
+ do 3 times physiotherapy because I need someone to push my leg more and more. you can not do everything alone.
+ scars are very invisible , I applied some special oil 2 times 10 minutes per day.
+ Both of legs extension are perfect. I will work on flexion.
+ I started again to build my upper body and increased calori intake.
+ Fitbone is more stable than I expected but I had been always conservative and use crutches to go somewhere.
+ im fking tired mentally physically and I hope everything is gonna be allright soon and want to forget everything and live my rest life.
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Uptade: 1 May 2019 : 4.5 month after second leg operation and 10 months after first operation
Hey what s up forum?
there are some news. I finished the lengthening a few week ago and then the second leg cable was removed so that second leg took 3,5 months to reach first leg discrepancy. fortunately I had zero problem with second leg meanwhile as I had said I had bending problem on first leg ( lateral side of quadriceps muscle) it was giving me some pain and discomfort. when I ask lots of friend who they did operation they had said that they hadn't experienced such a weird thing. first of all Dr Monegal wanted me to do physiotherapy and see the progress but it didn't work. He helped me then to meet with a muscle expert in there and I did with him a therapy. Lastly after we discussed it, he checked during the removing operation and solved that problem , removed some adherence ( muscle fascia)
and that pain has gone. I feel better now and get more flexion.i have to push it now. I had never structure problem( as you see on X RAY) , the only problem was that until now. but thanks to Monegal, he followed my progress so close and never slur over: it will be ok it will be ok ! next day after operation day, I went to famous La rambla alone with crutches ( La taverna de Barcelona) it s a fabulous place. the first time I was walking without any insole and outsole. I was feeling amazing and so confident , people were looking at me, I was laughing, smiling , you know it was fking next day after operation. I had to stay on bed but it was a nice night.
Meanhwhile during my consultation , I had meet a with young man from Newyork, after one year , I saw him again there. he was shocked whenever he saw me. cos because I was shorter than him before op, and now I'm a bit taller than him. he was 1.80m ( 5.11ft). this feeling is really incredible. I can't explain it.
Some key points:
+ now Recovery phase. during second leg, I hadn't took any calcium supplement, now I take it again.
+ do 3 times physiotherapy because I need someone to push my leg more and more. you can not do everything alone.
+ scars are very invisible , I applied some special oil 2 times 10 minutes per day.
+ Both of legs extension are perfect. I will work on flexion.
+ I started again to build my upper body and increased calori intake.
+ Fitbone is more stable than I expected but I had been always conservative and use crutches to go somewhere.
+ im fking tired mentally physically and I hope everything is gonna be allright soon and want to forget everything and live my rest life.
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Its amazing man
How much you gain ? whats your total height now ??
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Congratulations on completing the lengthening bro !!
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hey there Americanfootball!
Great journey you have there :)
Do you think it is possible to have a regular 9-5 job while going through the complete lengthening (both femurs)?
Theoretically it is, but I want your honest opinion..
Enjoy your new life!
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UPTADE 14 MAY:
After I got a very good news yesterday, for the first time i walked without crutches with new legs.Walking without compensation, any lift is very amazing feeling. it s not a perfect walking but it s big step for me. I do everyday 2-3 hours sessions (stretching, strengthening). Meanwhile i booked my holiday in August and have 3 months from now. I hope I can be well until that time.
@montahn
I got between 7.5-8 cm, barefoot (1.81 m -1.81.5 m) and I measured with shoes it s like 1.84 m (6 ft)
@star-ray thanks bro ! you have almost finished first half ! stay strong !
@pmna
thanks dude! this is a very hard question ask it to Monegal because it depends on many factors.
Both femurs means bilateral. if you do bilateral, you will be on wheelchair, I didn't do bilateral but as far as I know, having regular job could be difficult. I can't imagine myself to go to job with wheelchair. In my case unilateral( two stage) theoretically %100 ok ! but again it depends on you.
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Barely saw this diary, very cool man congrats, I'm going to be doing the same Quad-surgery with Mahboubian, starting height is the same, goal is the same as your results as well haha, wishing you the best and a prompt recovery brother.
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there is no single video of you playing football after your first procedure with salameh. I think you gave up your goal of playing football and decided another round of LL. Funny. If anyone really played football as a professional or training coach he would not even be thinking of 2 LLs. I am sure you wont post any running jumping or football videos. You just want to look good on x-rays.
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Barely saw this diary, very cool man congrats, I'm going to be doing the same Quad-surgery with Mahboubian, starting height is the same, goal is the same as your results as well haha, wishing you the best and a prompt recovery brother.
THANKS BRO!, I wish you a good luck on your journey, It would be best decision If everything goes well . Because this is a new life, this is a evolution! you will be born again! 8)
STAY STRONG
there is no single video of you playing football after your first procedure with salameh. I think you gave up your goal of playing football and decided another round of LL. Funny. If anyone really played football as a professional or training coach he would not even be thinking of 2 LLs. I am sure you wont post any running jumping or football videos. You just want to look good on x-rays.
the reason of thinking 2.LLs to continue my career as a BIG sport coach and meanwhile I did the second that i m recovered %100 from first one.
if you want to see video, I will be soon in Spain!
STAY STRONG!
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Hey
Do you know your sitting height? Generally are you ok with body proportions?
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the reason of thinking 2.LLs to continue my career as a BIG sport coach and meanwhile I did the second that i m recovered %100 from first one.
if you want to see video, I will be soon in Spain!
STAY STRONG!
lol 100% recovery to you is probably just walking. you probably stand on the side and "verbally" explain to your students how to play football and because you are BIG they will listen to you lol
football coach gets 2 LL and claims 100% recovery. Seriously you guys...
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Hey
Do you know your sitting height? Generally are you ok with body proportions?
I had measured it before, I think It was 91-92 cm. i left to measure myself , because I m enough tall , have enough quite long legs, good body shape( muscular) good style like models. my proportions are looking good , not weird.
lol 100% recovery to you is probably just walking. you probably stand on the side and "verbally" explain to your students how to play football and because you are BIG they will listen to you lol
football coach gets 2 LL and claims 100% recovery. Seriously you guys...
hahah funny guy, are you comedian? ;D who claims now im %100 recovered, I have finished this op a few months ago, don't ask me foolish questions!
%100 recovering was after first op(tibia) I could able to do all kind of things agility, coordination , power exercises , running otherwise I wouldn't do femur.
Meanwhile I was not giving not only verbally instructions, but also doing everything with correct biomechanics otherwise you can't work anywhere. no work no money !
now it s again recovery time to be well that's why im here to mention about my progress and giving you some important points.
STAY STRONG!
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LOL What a moron… 'good style like models'? LOL Self reported male model spotted. LOL. You believe you're the perfect man and you're very important you big moron LOL No wonder people make fun of you here and old forum pal You're a tool
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%100 recovering was after first op(tibia) I could able to do all kind of things agility, coordination , power exercises , running otherwise I wouldn't do femur.
the reason of thinking 2.LLs to continue my career as a BIG sport coach and meanwhile I did the second that i m recovered %100 from first one.
another diary trying to deceive readers.
nobody recovers 100% after 8 fking centimeters on tibia.
Americanfootballer/goodfootballer on old forum(OFFLINE) after tibia LL with a syrian doctor:
Hey people,
i left finaly football, i can do everything but i can not run like before like horse, i have pain on my bone when i run.. i always took painkiller before training but it s doesn't bring good anymore, if you think , i will be good runner after ope, forget about it, high impact exercises sucks you, bicycle treadmill ok but run on hard ground so hard. i don't know. but i have lots of pain on my point middle scar middle of bone. , i was so quick in my team and now i am the last one.. look i do everything squat every muscle exercises but run for a while NO!!!!!! and it has been almost 3 years but, i don't know. everything is normal.. but if you ask about athletic performance about running , sprint or so, forget about it PEOPLE!! you can run, but don't expect your old days.. you know i don't change my height to anything.. like i say knee up or sprint or everything on ground is ok but running in route , i don't think to, i don't know , this is my problem, ankle motion range of motion everything is normal but quick run is problem, i played football like , but i had took lot of painkiller, and i can't continue with painkiller to my life...
and also i am addicted to alcohol maybe reason is that i don't know. but i m so happy because of height however i want to do femur..
I know this hurts your pride, but ask yourself if what you are doing is ethically responsible? People arrive on this forum do read diaries and when you write such false diaries they think 8cm on tibia is ok. Its not ok, one will never be the same again. Hell even 4-5 cm is much, but atleast with good PT some will able to become like their old self. Or satisfiably close it.
You obviously have come to terms with the permdamages of your first LL but that doesnt mean its acceptable for others.
Please write the truth, people deserve it.
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:) I had got solid 6-6,5 cm not fully 8 cm. This was 7 years ago and had pain at the beginning. Look at there I was drinking alc. and not doing pt and Training was giving me Pain. It s pretty normal. If people want to wonder how I got my pre athletic ability, they can come to Barcelona 8) . I can show them my old videos. That s is a great offer for them. I always write the truth, I don’t need to lie . The most important ;Di feel good and tall and want to help on their journey that’s why I write lots of details about my journey like important points. I m a sportive athletic one not like most of chubby guy. I work on hard to get well again. Imagine and think about it ,you are an Athlete and are good talented . if you were fked up from tibia lengthening, would you do again other limb( femur ) , I bet you wouldn’t do it. I wanted to do femur because I healed with tibia.
So again I m not megaloman. Who wants to see me
Or meet me about talking L.L journey ,I will be next week Monday in Spain, I can share my experiences with them. No problem for me.
STAY STRONG.
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Uptade: 11 June 2019 : 6 month after second leg operation and 11 months after first operation
Hey what s up ?
I wanna just talk about my progress and important points of my journey not about fking easy wrong claims. since the beginning, my only aim is to share my experiences because I was in the same position like you before op.
but don't forget that what we wrote now can change in 6 month maybe 1 years or 2 years, because this is healing, recovery process, writing diary is a daily thing, no-one knows what gonna to happen later, if you don’t do anything during your recovery of course you don’t see much improvement, this varies from person to person. if you are already not be able to do sport , you may even ruin athletic ability more after operation. Everybody is different. Gaining my athletic ability doesn’t mean that you will gain too. This is a long process. It depends on you. It depends on your routine, it depends on pain level. Sometimes even stretching can be painful. Think big part of picture not a small one. I don’t encourage you to do that. This is my life , this is my character, this is my mindset I have never been a pussy guy I worked my ass off to be a strong one and I realised my dream by being tall. this helps me to overcome difficulties , this makes me motivated, I try always to stay strong. this is hardest fight of my life and I think I do my best anyway don’t misunderstand me, maybe English is not my native language. so now
some key points :
+ i started to walk long distances, I give you a trick, I use a garmin sport watch, I check everyday how many steps I did and try to increase distances and steps to improve my condition.
+ I can do everything, driving car, go outside without crutches, I cleaned even my home on myself. my life is getting normal.
+ on right leg has strength imbalances. this can affect your walking and stand-up or climb stairs . After I realised that, I started to do unilateral exercises ( quads,hamstring, hip strengthening), don't forget to do basic strengthening.
+ Swimming has a great role without high impact to strengthen muscle and walk. I will start it today.
+ as I said, AIS( Active isolated stretch) has really good benefits to gain ROM, it s much better than static stretch. Research it!
+I do 3 times exercise routine daily.
- (Morning )45 Min soft tissue massage / AIS stretch / Mobility
- (Afternoon )Swimming
- (Evening) Walking everyday more distances and Physiotherapy ( PIR method: Post isometric relaxation)
+ meanwhile I don’t know but some pain has started on right leg( upper part of thigh) so I will visit my doctor next week and take a new X-Ray.
+ keep in your mind, I talk with friends who do op. most of them enjoy their life and they say me that they don’t have time to do exercise, it impair their recovery. but I work my ass off to get well . I mean after finish lengthening part, recovery part is really really critical.
STAY STRONG
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lol you know no one will come to see your videos in barcelona, thats why you are so confident in making these claims. you have no videos to show.
it is very clear from your past posts that you had no interest in getting back to full normal before second LL.
read this
"but if you ask about athletic performance about running , sprint or so, forget about it PEOPLE!! you can run, but don't expect your old days.. you know i don't change my height to anything.. like i say knee up or sprint or everything on ground is ok but running in route , i don't think to, i don't know , this is my problem, ankle motion range of motion everything is normal but quick run is problem, i played football like , but i had took lot of painkiller, and i can't continue with painkiller to my life...
and also i am addicted to alcohol maybe reason is that i don't know. but i m so happy because of height however i want to do femur.. "
you were ready to do second LL even if you couldnt run. what a mindset lol
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lol you know no one will come to see your videos in barcelona, thats why you are so confident in making these claims. you have no videos to show.
it is very clear from your past posts that you had no interest in getting back to full normal before second LL.
read this
"but if you ask about athletic performance about running , sprint or so, forget about it PEOPLE!! you can run, but don't expect your old days.. you know i don't change my height to anything.. like i say knee up or sprint or everything on ground is ok but running in route , i don't think to, i don't know , this is my problem, ankle motion range of motion everything is normal but quick run is problem, i played football like , but i had took lot of painkiller, and i can't continue with painkiller to my life...
and also i am addicted to alcohol maybe reason is that i don't know. but i m so happy because of height however i want to do femur.. "
you were ready to do second LL even if you couldnt run. what a mindset lol
I write here lots of good details, my routine, my experiences that you can’t not buy it with money or you spend lots of money to your physiotherapists to take this information.
No one ask me why i wrote so 6-7years ago ?
That was 6-7 years ago . My rods were removed, I was so excited cos I had finished everything, were drinking lots of alcohol and most of nights I was at parties, enjoying my life.
But I made mistake . I wasn’t recovered at the beginning . Even playing football was painful. I don’t know why. But in 6-7 years, I’m fully recovered. I think most of Athlete here were maybe recovered well in years. Notice! Don’t compare me with others. My diary my story is different than others . I was already very active before op. My coordination ability , my agility, my strength was much better than sedantary people that’s why I studied sport and got sports science degree and became sport coach. So I don’t need to prove something here ,I already write technical things about recovery and my process. I don’t give a fk what people think about that . do I have any reason to lie you ? you get free info and still try to judge but Only God judge me, I just share my things . If you are interested, you take some good points, if you are not, read another diaries.
Please ask me about femur and present process.
STAY STRONG!
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UPTADE : NEW X RAYS LEFT SIDE 11.MONTH & RIGHT SIDE 6.MONTH
Hello Everyone !
I was yesterday in Barcelona to get new X-Rays and get myself checked by Dr. Monegal. Everything is allright. Good callus, good alignment, no structural problem, everything is getting better. Strength, Range of Motion. For the first time, I went to Barcelona without crutches, This time there was no Passenger Boarding Bridge, the tunnel you go through to get on plane, I had to go down stairs then get on mini airport bus and again go up aircraft stairs. of course I was not quick ( the reason of that right leg was not enough strong and before I saw new x ray, I didn't want to put all of weight on it) but was able to do it on my own and I was there at morning 09:00,i got back home the same day at 23:00 pm. I didn't take any painkiller.
my sport watch showed that I made 8000 step yesterday. normally I was making step daily average 3000-4000 step. I think I should increase my distance walking. because Right leg is also enough consolidated, I don't think anything will happen to right leg.
so meanwhile I had said I have some pain on right leg, we found that is tension muscle pain, iliopsoas and iliotibial are tight, this is L.L, everyone can have more less pain because everyone has a different musculoskeletal system. I need time, will continue doing my plan , but especially I will work on iliotibal and psoas stretch.
I heard from Monegal that he can do STRYDE soon. I don't know any details. you can contact him directly.
KEY POINTS
- NOTICE! finishing lengthening is just a small part of LL. you have to continue doing strict plan. MASSAGE-STRETCH-MOBILITY. Don't forget this! Recovery is really depends on your routine, if you don't do anything , it may heal but it takes really so much time, I had made mistake during tibia. after finished lengthening, I thought that it s over but NOT!
PUSH PUSH PUSH!
- this is critical for someone who wants to regain athletic ability asap. dont forget to build your muscle memory in every Range of Motion. because you are losing muscle, strength quickly and forget movement patterns during process. with 7-8 cm growing, you have new muscle length, new tissues, new structure, your muscles contract due to your brain and nervous system. For movements, requires your brain to get exact sequence and strength of contraction of a large numbers of muscles.
-Mentally , yeah I feel good, I m taller than %99 most of women , but of course I m not a giant in my country. but as I said height is very very important but not everything, Build muscle, create your style, improve yourself in every way, being proud of yourself, Never give up, if you have a dream, fight for it.
STAY STRONG
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UPTADE : 1 YEAR
everything is getting better, I had a some minor pain on right side that disappeared in last two weeks. body is a amazing system that can heal itself at the end of the day. At least in my case , it s so. I want to mention shortly about my daily life, first of all I m walking normal and fast %100 without any limping like normal people but haven't tried to run or jogging, I think I will wait until completely removal. climbing up stairs is easy , im careful about climbing down stairs. Driving car is not a problem. in terms of movement , I can swear, i went to bowling with my friend last week , I could do one time strike and played 20 round then we played table tennis, problem was that taking the pingpong ball every time from ground lol, it was tiring. I wished I had a ball boy during game.
although I did two stage lengthening and got full 7-8 cm , it s amazing feeling to do daily things in one year.
I started to do much more lower body weight strength exercises like squat, lunge, leg kicks etc and use more often bosu ball to regain balance coordination etc. as I said, everything is starting now , especially recovery phase is very important for me. doing daily things is not enough for me. I have to regain my pre ope athletic ability so I will work work very hard on it. we will see it. im going on holiday , really need to relax. meanwhile remember, at the beginning of journey , I had wrotten Rocky Balboa motivation words " you're gonna have to go through hell , worse than any nightmare you've ever dreamed " it s was really like that. I wrote you my experience , being sport coach brought me a lot advantage but don't think about it , it s like walk in park. LL is fking really hard thing, very very big decision, im still middle of the road. I had many obstacle not structure, in related to life, family, mental. I m still fighting for this. do I regret to do this operation ? Never! it is fantastic feeling to be tall.
take care of you and
STAY STRONG!
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Congratulations brother!!! Its very nice knowing you completed the journey. This journey for me has sometimes felt tough mentally, its because i haven't told anyone and spending a lot of time indoors after work and weekends.
when I read your whole journal, knowing you started where I did and you came out happy and finished strong. Makes it easier for me and gives me motivation. I Wish you all the best luck, I will reach out to you privately as I do need some tips on doing exercises. Not just for my leg but overall fitness.
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UPTADE: (7,5 CM-8 CM) 15 MONTH AFTER FIRST LEG AND 10 MONTHS AFTER SECOND LEG OP.
After a long time( holiday etc), I got new X-rays a few days ago. I think im almost there before removal D. Bone are very very good consolidated ( left is almost in fire and for right leg: It takes a little bit longer). Everything is fine. Minor problems are gone like a some pain, I don't use any pain killer etc and 'm more active, this is a good signal that body adapts to new height slowly and progressively however it will take time to recover fully. I must work on mobility, stability , strength etc. the most important for me in first stage is that I get over it with minimum risk. walking is %100 but I will try to run firstly on soft surface(on Sand or Treadmill). Monegal allowed me to do everything jump, run or any other activities. Let's see what will happen, I think the point that I focus on in this stage is more stretching and using soft surfaces to minimise stress on tendons, joints.
Meanwhile most of my friends noticed my new height , my reaction was fking smile with proud and told them that you are getting smaller (only half in jest). maybe you can say doing Pilates Yoga etc giving better body posture which makes you a little bit taller, I don't care what people think of that, I just want to enjoy my life, I lost time, money etc in this period, I have to get it back.
By the way, I stayed again one night in Mic , there I met with newcomers and was suprised that one of them had Styrde. I heard that Dr Monegal has been started to do STYRDE. I don't know about details, you can ask him.
wish you best of Luck with everything.
STAY STRONG
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Hi ,
i hope you are enjoying your new height American football!
I loved reading through your diary, idk why dr monegal got so many haters on this forum. i think it is a great idea to do one leg first then the other one if you have no one to take care of you and you dont wanna lose all of your mobility.
how is your recovery nowadays? have you regained all of your athletic abilities?
If not, what are you struggling on nowadays?
Tao
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Well done to you!