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Title: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on September 30, 2018, 05:26:31 PM
Hi everyone,

Been a lurker since 2015 and now in the position to move forward with Stryde.  The forum has been extremely helpful and I hope that my Diary will help others as much as the past forum diaries have helped me.  I'm a very private person so I won't share much personal info (xrays, etc).

I will be having my femurs lengthened and will keep a very logical diary, one that I hope will be structured in a way that will help future LL'ers with their Journey :)

Stats: 5'3, looking to get to 5'6.  150lbs.

Pre-Procedure:
- Dr. Paley does not believe in stretching, however reading the forums, it just makes sense that if you're more flexible, you're going to have an easier time and higher success rate to reach your goal
- I bought a stretching cable, which can be found on amazon https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00065X222/  - it comes with a stretching guide and have been using this to extensively stretch my hamstrings, quadriceps, gluteus, etc to prepare for surgery
- I've been working out a lot, mainly weight lifting, no cardio
- overall I'm in good shape, I don't have a six pack, but am visibly fit.  In terms of flexibility, I am moderately flexible, I can touch my knuckles on the ground when I bend forward.  I hope to be able to palm my hands on the floor by the time I have surgery.

Plan During recovery:
- aggressive stretching on my own with the stretching cable above, I think this will be a huge advantage barring any unexpected pain.  I think that a lot of people didn't do this - or at least they didn't mention it,  and if it works, this may be very helpful for future LL'ers who are independent and wants an effective way to stretch on their own, will let you guys know how this works out for me.  I plan to stretch for 30 mins every 3 hours, every day.  I am very disciplined.  I will use my apple alarm to go off every 3 hours to remind me.
- In between stretching I plan to work or watch TV (a lot of it)
- I also have a lot of protein supplements.  Stretching destroys the muscle fibers.  I think there's a lot of focus on bone growth, etc, which is of course important, but I think we forget that the muscles are constantly having micro tears during stretching and needs nutrients to repair.  For this reason, I plan to follow a good high protein diet as well, to give my muscles maximum ability to recover during the intense stretching (this is in addition to what I'll be taking for the bones, whatever Dr. Paley gives me)
- daily pool therapy, I want to be on my feet as much as possible with stryde, early on, I will use a lot of pool therapy if pain control is good.  Then get off the pool asap so that my full weight can help maintain muscle mass
- take Tylenol daily in addition to Oxycodone.  NSAIDs have been shown to effect bone growth and also some think it inhibits healing, Tylenol on the other hand has not to the best of my knowledge

That's it for now.  Will keep you guys posted.  Please leave any comments or suggestions on my above plan.

Thanks everyone!
CJ

Current Mood: 90% excited, 10% scared, as in "wtf I am actually going to do this?"



Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: cool on September 30, 2018, 06:00:11 PM
Good luck with your journey!

However without any proof, it will be hard for anyone to completely trust your diary. But whatever you're comfortable with :)
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: Pilor on September 30, 2018, 06:20:40 PM
Hi what is your age, and when are you going to have your surgery?

Best of luck
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on September 30, 2018, 08:32:57 PM
Hi Pilor,

Late 30s, with Paley.

Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on September 30, 2018, 08:34:44 PM
Thanks for the response @cool!

Maybe I'll post evidence later if I feel more comfortable.  Don't really mind if there are some out there who doesn't believe me, just hope that my journey can be helpful to those that do!
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: Leggs on September 30, 2018, 10:32:39 PM
superusercj1-

Videos where you block out your face on youtube are super easy to make, youtube provides the tools right on their website, nothing to download or figure out how to use. Posting a youtube video on this forum is as simple as copy and pasting the youtube link, that's it.

This method is completely anonymous, takes much less time than writing.

What is your surgery date?
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: MyEvolution on October 07, 2018, 03:05:07 AM
Best of luck dude!! I had my surgery on sep25th stryde, you got this!!
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on October 20, 2018, 12:21:29 AM
Thanks everyone - updates soon!
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on October 26, 2018, 10:31:14 PM
So here we go! 8)

I had my consultation with Dr. Paley two months prior and although he said stretching wasn’t important, I did it anyways as it made perfect sense to me that it could only help and not hurt.

2 months prior to surgery, the furthest I could stretch my hamstrings when standing straight and hanging forward, was my fingers being 4 inches off the ground.  Right before surgery, I was able to touch my knuckles to the ground - so stretching does improve flexibility! Who would of known ;)

I also bought stretching ropes to help my leg stretch in certain positions that requires two people. My goal was to also diet but I failed on that ;) so overall my stats didn’t change much - 5’3, 150lbs, “fit build” but no abs

Day of surgery, Post Op Day 0:
Mood: 80% excited 10% skeptical 10% nervous.

The morning of the surgery, you come in, you bring an overnight bag that they keep in a security locker for you.  They pop an IV into you, and you just lay there and wait to meet the anesthesiologist.  I opt’d for the spinal block vs. epidural because I didn’t want a Foley.

Surgery:
POD 0:
Everyones diaries were absolutely right.  The moment the anesthesiologist comes and pushes the Versed/relaxing medication, next thing you know it - you’re waking up in recovery.  When I first woke up, I had 0/10 pain, as a spinal block was used.  As the spinal block wore off the pain started but it was manageable with toradol (an IV NSAID) and Tylenol - but as the spinal block wore off more, they had to hit me with IV morphine.  When I don’t move my legs the pain is about 1/10, when I do it shoots to about 5/10 with pain medications on board.

I had a tiny bit of nausea post op but short lived, never vomited.  I was able to eat my entire hospital dinner that evening.  Bowel movement wise, I had one the morning of surgery so haven’t needed to go yet. 

The nurses, all staff, PAs have been incredible.  Paley’s nurse practitioner came POD 0 shortly after my surgery and said that I would start PT tomorrow.

POD 1 4am - pain has begun to creep up.  I’m getting about 2-4 hours of sleep before being awakened by an achy pain.  The incision sites themselves don’t hurt, it feels more like an internal annoying ache that runs between a 3/10 to 10/10 pain and fluctuates.  The pain does get better with the combination of Toradol, Morphine, Oxycodone, Tylenol. 

Of note both, of my thighs are super swollen and I suspect that the soft tissue swelling is contributing to a lot of discomfort (of course also because my femurs were broken).  Spirits are high, happy I did it,
No regrets, no concerns thus far.  Care has been excellent.  Just need to get over this pain hump. Separate note, with pain meds, my brain isn’t groggy at all, I can perfectly send email and work if I wanted to, but choosing to take it easy the next 1-2 days.  My biggest concern right now is when eventually I need to have a bowel movement, not sure if I will be able to adequately move my legs without a lot of pain. 

POD 1: This morning, starting to use less pain meds, pain hovers around 2/10, goes to 4/10 with movement with Toradol and Tylenol on board around the clock - which means I am having them give it to me regardless if I’m in bad pain or not, this is key so that the pain doesn’t get too out of control.

It’s very weak for me to bend my knees so what I’m doing is using my feet to push off one another, once my thigh is raised high enough doing this, I then use my hands to pull the rest of my legs to my chest - to get my knees to bend.  My thighs are still super swollen and tight, I suspect that my pain will go down drastically as this swelling goes down, which will probably take 1-2 days

Random Advice: Make sure you get long charging cables for your laptop and phone, I have the standard length so can’t use my phone while it’s charging, I just hangs above my head on the bed while plugged in.

POD 1: PT came by today. Man was it hard to move my legs. After a few repetitions of some PT guided movements, my legs started moving again, but definitely significantly decreased range of motion. The PT said that if your muscles are swollen from surgery, your muscle essentially shuts off and atrophy.  Anyways, I was able to ambulate on a walker and fully weight bear.  But I was only able to take small steps because of the discomfort and lack of range of motion. 

Advice: you NEED upper body strength. I’m fairly strong and still found it difficult because of the pain. Can’t imagine someone trying without upper body strength!!  The PT mentioned that a lot of lengtheners actually faints on their first day of PT.

POD2: 3am - woke up super hungry. Nurse brought me crackers and peanut butter.  My body is probably needing a lot of caloric intake to heal the wounds, the 3 meals a day they give you is not enough calories.  I wonder if the hospital allows us to bring in our own snacks, if so, next time when I do my Tibias I’m going to have a snack basket with protein bars for sure.   Other than this, all night I’ve been working on my range of motion. Muscles are super super weak still but I use my hands to get my legs to bend up to my chest and then help my knees bend and I would leave it there for 5 mins, then I’d straighten them out and repeat.  At first it was hard but It’s getting easier and easier.

POD 2: I had a bowel movement !! No issues at all, no constipation.  Also, the leg exercises must have helped! As I was able to use the walker on my own and made it to the bathroom and back without assistant - but taking really small steps.  PT today also went 100% better than yesterday. I was able to walk around the nursing station with no issues.  Theres a bunch of exercises that they teach you, definitely follow them.  I’m doing them in bed every hour, which causes muscle soreness but it’s a good “feeling” like after going to the gym. Today I only had to take Toradol for pain.  I still have to use my hands to help bend my legs into the right positions but I’m starting to feel my muscle strength come back as every time I do it, I try to use my own legs to do it without my hand’s help.

POD 3: big time improvements! My legs are starting to regain strength and I can see it with my bed exercises (leg raises against gravity etc) are getting easier and easier.  Don’t get me wrong, muscles are still really tight but the progress has been about 30% improvement everyday compared to the prior day.  I can now fully get out of bed and ambulate with the walker, use the rest room on my own, etc. my biggest advice through this whole ordeal is really do all the bed exercises your PT teaches you.  You will get your muscle function back quick and fast.  I only use Tylenol for pain, no more toradol - I think again, this is a result of constantly forcing my legs to move with my hands  - even if it was only small movements to help it generate blood flow and healing, those small movements became big movements after awhile

POD 3: I was discharged today. It was a whirl wind of a day. The process of being discharged and being placed into a wheelchair , then transfer to car, then transfer back to wheelchair from car was brutal.  I was in significant amount of pain by the time I got to the hotel.  For the first time in the last few days I had to take a narcotic - oxycodone.  For the first time , because of all the discomfort and how out of breath I was, I was starting to feel discouraged.  And went to take a nap.

Then something amazing happened. When I woke up, my legs were about 50% better than when I woke up this morning, more strength and more range of motion.  And the reason was because I was avoiding pain medication.  The soreness in my legs didn’t really bother me mentally, but what happens is the soreness intensifies when you walk, so it forces your body to use more upper body strength with the walker.  When I took the pain meds, I was able to rely more on my legs.

My mobility is much much better.  I’ve recorded a video of which I’ll post soon. Muscles are still 20% tight but that’s it!! Something else I think contributed was that I felt pretty dizzy and miserable being discharged mainly because the hospital does not give you nearly enough food so I was starving the entire time. When I got to the hotel, I ordered a chicken parmigiana sandwich and also drank a soylent before going to sleep. This was easily 1500 calories and I think that helped a bunch too.  Can’t wait for what tomorrow brings !  Note that I have not started lengthening yet - that starts 7 days from surgery.  Also, everyone I’ve talked to (PT and nurses) said that I progressed unusually fast.  Again I attribute this to all the bed exercises - refusing to let pain get in the way, using my hands to move my
legs so my legs wouldn’t freeze up, pushing myself and forcing my muscles to move throughout the night. 

Here are the bed exercises that was taught to me that I did probably every 1-2 hours while in the hospital (PT said to only do it 2-3 times a day!).

1. heel toe flex - you put your toes up and then down, and you pump 10 times
2. With Legs Straight out, extend knee so that it drops into bed, this causes your quadriceps to contract and stimulate blood flow for healing (essentially trying to touch the back of your knee to your bed with your leg straight laying on your back)
3. Using my hands to grab my thighs and pulling my legs towards me (legs could barely move cuz it was swollen) then when thigh was near me, I’d grab my lower leg and squeeze it to my thigh, to stretch my quads - this hurt like crazy but the more I did it the more loose I got
4. Leg raises going up and down, with legs straight (I couldn’t do this until pod 2), before then it was pretty painful and too weak
5. I also did quad pumps, pulled my thigh close to my body then as my Lower leg was hanging, I’d move my lower leg up and down
6. And last once you can do all the above, you then do a combination , laying flat on your bed, straight leg up and then bend your quadriceps to bring it to you, and straighten it again without touching the bed.  For #6 I was able to do this towards the end of pod 2, but it was super weak and my leg would drop. Today I can do it without all those issues but my flexibility still has issues with the quad flex , tomorrow we will see how it goes

I also showered today and had a big scare, got a little over confident and almost slipped , was able to grab a rail in time.  My muscles still locks up even tho I’m able to stand still without assistant. The big thing that sucks was putting on my underwear and shorts. I would grab them off the table, use my mouth to hold it, sit down , then put one foot in at a time and then repeat for the shorts.  Problem number 2 is that my shorts are too tight ! They actually fit me nicely but that’s not what you want. You want those super loose baggy ones, and for convenience, ditch the under wear and go commando.  It was super hard to put them on as the ability to raise and lower your leg is very weak this far out.  Having said this, the shower felt amazing !

POD 4: had PT yesterday and it hurt like crazy.  Right afterwards felt good and I was able to walk better for about an hour.  Woke up this morning and my entire leg is sore 🤦🏻‍♂️  unfortunately the rapid rate of getting better seems to be tapering off - my legs feel only slightly more mobile compared to yesterday. Hopefully it’s just a function of PT and inflammation from all the movements. Diet wise and mental wise I feel so so much better since being discharged and able to eat as much food as I want.  There was most def a caloric deficit while I was in hospital.  From here on out it seems pretty straight forward, will do another no update in the next couple weeks.

POD 5: woke up today sore. For the first time felt mentally weak.  Entire body is sore and legs are painful likely from PT and maybe pushing myself too hard. 

POD 5 11pm: holy crap, popped an oxycodone in and felt amazing - should have realized this already from when I left the hospital.  From now on I will be taking my pain meds to get my sleep, and also to take away the pain so I can do my stretches and exercise.  Side note: PT session today was great -  my aide is now helping me with stretches and the PT were also helpful and having her help so she can learn. My goal is to stretch 4 times a day .

POD 7 - started lengthening, nothing special, big machine you place over your leg, hit a button and it goes.  You don’t really feel it.

So here’s my basic summary of the journey thus far up to this point, POD 8:
- If you are considering this surgery, do it here, the care is phenomenal and you feel REALLY SAFE and everyone knows what they’re doing
- If I had to do this all over again, here are the things I’d do:
    - Buy tons of protein bars and put it in your overnight bag for hospital stay, you will be starving and this will save you big time
    - Stretch ropes that I recommended above has been amazing, def buy them
    - Also buy a stretching table (about $170 off Amazon) so you can do your home stretches, I ordered one after day one of PT, wished I did it earlier
    - Order a foam roller so you can place underneath your legs for leg raises (you’ll see they do the in PT)
    - Make sure your hotel room is handicap accessible
    - Stock your hotel room with: Tons of water bottles, meal replacement drinks (I am using Soylent), Protein Shakes, Cereal, and vitamins - I am taking Vitamin D 5000 IU, Magnesium, Calcium chewables, Iron (only for first two weeks to help regain my blood loss
- Hire an AIDE, you WILL need one.  You’ll need one 24 hours a day during your first 3-5 days after being discharged as you’re still too weak to do a lot of things.  Afterwards its more of a convenience thing.  If you are reading this and have your surgery in a couple months hit me up and I can give you my AIDE’s info and you can work out something with her.  I’m paying her $20/hr 8 hrs a day right now.
- This entire process will mentally test you.  All I can say is, KUDOS to those who didn’t have stryde, I could not imagine being able to do this wheelchair bound for 2-3 months.

More updates in the next couple weeks.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: CaptainAmerica on October 26, 2018, 10:42:34 PM
5/10 pain? Sounds like you're doing well, especially after the first 2 weeks it seems with Stryde, that should be the worst of it.

Just curious, have you ever stumbled off the couch or just walked past a table and clumsily, at full force, accidentally bang your leg on the table? So like the pain is so excruciating for a few moments you nearly fall over? What would you describe that pain level as?
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on October 26, 2018, 10:58:32 PM
lmao that pain would be a 12/10
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on October 31, 2018, 02:43:57 AM
POD 9: spoke too soon. Woke up this morning and there’s an intense painful ache on the lateral portion of my thighs with left leg hurting more than right. I would call it an 8/10 ache.  Took an oxycodone and waiting for it to go down.  Also, it looks like all the internal bleeding is now surfacing.  My legs post procedure had some bruising but not a lot, today the entire lateral side of both legs are bruised and distinctly purple.  Also the thighs are more swollen today, when I push down on them it creates divots in my skin.  I’m assuming all this is normal because I actually can ambulate with walker fine.  Hopefully this is the peak of the swelling and it only goes down from here.  Otherwise appetite is good, eating 2000-2500 calories a day (my normal is 1500-2000) ,  not because I’m forcing myself to, but because I’m always hungry right now.  I’m also supplementing my food with the vitamins as described previously.

POS 10: strength is doing much better and I can walk somewhat normal without my walker.  The issue is I have weakness in my hips and that’s also where the pain is coming from.  When I lay on my side to Do lateral leg raises it hurts like crazy and that muscle is really weak.  My PT told
Me that once this muscle strengthens and loosens back up, it will normalize my gait. I am going to start working hard on this muscle.  The PT also told me that I am
Going to either be in crutches or transition to cane next week .

POD 11: there’s a constant 8/10 pain that’s on the lateral side of my leg and it’s brutal, super achy. My right legs has no pain. I’m using all my pain meds at my disposal.  I’m not sure if this is just my muscle being overworked, or I sprained something stretching. Have my follow up appointment coming up soon and will ask Dr. Paley then. Also I tried going to the gym today and it was a freaking disaster. I mainly did machines. Did chest, back, and arms.  I could only lift 60% of my pre surgical max, but what’s worse is I kept getting thirsty and all of a sudden I had full body sweat and almost fainted.  Guess my body wasn’t ready yet and all the energy is still going into my legs to recover.  The last two days has def been my worse pain days since surgery.

POD 12: holy crap pain pain pain. I think the last few days a lot of muscles are starting to be more active and causes an intense ache.  The worse are my ITBs and piriformis.  Having a lot of problems sleeping at night and I’m on oxycodone almost very 4 hours.. hopefully this past soon. My quads and hamstrings has zero pain, my “femur” pain if you will is zero as well, pain is more in my butt , hip muscles, ITB, and piriformis area.

POD 13: the intense pain is still present. The pain is only on my left leg, my right leg has zero pain. The pain is no longer located on the side of my leg or behind my leg, it’s now located in my inner thigh.  I can feel a muscle inside my leg that’s super tight and possibly in spasm - likely that’s the cause of the pain. I’m assuming that all this is just muscle pain and hopefully it’ll pass soon. As of right now I am taking 1000mg of tylenol as well as the prescribed oxycodone. This pain is worse than the post surgical pain. I just hope it’s not something more of an issue as my right leg feels completely normal.  I had my aide buy a bunch of those icy hot stickers along with cold packs, and this combo along with Tylenol and oxycodone has helped me a lot. I can’t wait for my left leg to feel like my right, this pain causes me to lose sleep

Summary:
- don’t forget to buy big baggy gym shorts, easier to put on when you have deceased mobility and soreness
- Although I’m now working from home I really only get in 3-4 hours a day max. Between PT (1.5 hours round trip), your own stretches 4x a day (1.5 hours) , using the lengthening machine, and just generally taking more time to do everything because you’re limited because of inability to walk.  So if you plan to work 9-5pm it’s really hard to given everything else you need to do for yourself.
- Wound care:  I’ve read all over the internet and consistently there’s one best way to prevent scars.  During the first two weeks you must keep the wound moist, which allows it to heal faster and better.  You do this by applying petroleum jelly to your wound.  Then cover it with bandaids.  Make sure you shower and clean the area with soap and water at least once every 1-2 days to prevent infection as covering the wound with a moist jelly will put it at risk for Infection .  Once initial healing is done, apply mederma anti scar cream to it to slow/prevent scar tissue formation.
- EASILY the best item that I’ve bought so far was a foldable laptop table stand for your bed, I eat on it, and also work from, it, you can lay down flag and tilt it, and place your MacBook on it.  I’m able to work super comfortably with this table.  Post op wise, when sitting in a chair, it irritates your leg, so this table allows me to lay down and prop my leg up on two pillows
- When you’re in the hospital, ask the nurse to put you on the “Polaris” cooler machine, it’s two cooling pads that wraps around your leg.  This will help reduce swelling,  you can also take it home.  It’s basically a machine that pumps ice water into the pads (you replace the ice water every 4 Hours) — really takes the pain away.  I’ve had to use it a few times since I got home.
- Buy ice packs and those icy hot sticker pads, super helpful for random muscle pain !
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: cool on October 31, 2018, 04:28:09 AM
Sounds harsh. Are you doing this by yourself?
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: totallyred on October 31, 2018, 01:08:51 PM
Sorry to hear that. Did you do something which caused this pain...my idea what it could be from?
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: cheekycabs on October 31, 2018, 09:47:01 PM
What kind of PT are you doing? I'm having troubles with my knees, it's like their frozen for a good 5 minutes until I get them warmed up to move. I'm also having limited range of motion when walking and going up/down stairs as they only bend a bit. I'm about 1 month in as well.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on November 01, 2018, 02:05:55 AM
POD 14: Pain is completely gone.  I spoke to a lot of the PTs and they all said it was from muscle strain.  Other than some minor aches now (feels like you walked disney land all day and sore at the end of the day), I literally have 0 pain.  I'm also on crutches now...what a whirlwind the last 4-5 days.  I was just reading MyEvolution's diary and he's absolutely right, where he said week 1 was easy, week 2 as an absolute nightmare.  I'm starting week 3 now so hopefully none of the pain comes back.  For PT, i'm doing the regular Paley institute PT and a lot of stretching on my own at home using a stretching strap.  Everyday I see significant improvement in ROM.  Right now my knee has full flexion, my Hamstrings can go 90 degrees when I lay flat, but my IT Bands are horrid - laying flat, I can't bring my legs together, I can feel it really tight on both sides, I can't lay flat and put one leg over the other at my ankles either.  Also my hip rotators are super stiff, I can't sit with my legs crossed or "indian style." I am going to focus on these two muscle groups the next 1-2 weeks and hopefully it starts to give. 

In terms of ambulation, I feel like I'm going to be able to walk without crutches in less than a week, when they switched me to crutches, it felt really natural and easy to walk.  I have a feeling I'll be on a cane soon.  Keep you guys posted.

PS I see a lot of stryde patients at PT, and their gait looks completely normal, saw a guy at about 7cm and he was on the treadmill warming up, if he didn't have a cane I wouldn't be able to tell he had any surgery done, that's how normal his gait looks.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on November 01, 2018, 02:32:34 AM
Sounds harsh. Are you doing this by yourself?

Hey - no way, during my first 5 days out the hospital I had an aide 24 hours a day, now I just have a daytime aide.  I would say, the first week or so out the hospital you 100% need someone to be with you 24 hours a day, your legs are simply too weak to do anything yourself.  After that, it’s more for convenience.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: cool on November 01, 2018, 05:03:46 AM
Ah ok. But you're still alone (like no family/friends?)

And can you please post a walking video and some picture perhaps? Thanks!
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: cheekycabs on November 01, 2018, 09:14:02 AM
What does the normal Paley PT entail? I'm just curious because I'm doing limited stretching, toe touches in bed, and achilles stretches on stairs. I'm trying leg raises as well but not showing too much improvement...
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on November 06, 2018, 02:06:32 PM
What does the normal Paley PT entail? I'm just curious because I'm doing limited stretching, toe touches in bed, and achilles stretches on stairs. I'm trying leg raises as well but not showing too much improvement...

first 10 mins: they put you in a NuStep machine where you just push down with your legs, almost like a recliner stair stepper.  This warms up your quadricep

Next 30 mins: you do a series of exercises to warm up your muscle. 
1) Straight leg raise , one at a time , 3 sets of 10 laying flag
2) While sitting with your back straight, you kick out , 3 sets of 10 for each leg
3) Leg slides, you lay flat and they put a sliding board underneath your leg, and you go from laying flat to bending your knees, 3 sets of 10, each leg

Last 20 mins spent stretching:
1) Thomas Stretch (you can look this up)
2) Hamstring Stretch
3) Knee mobility stretch (you lay flat on your stomach and they behind your knee from the back)

The above changes as you progress, they are now doing side leg raises on me and we no longer do the knee mobility stretch (i still have to do it at home but not enough time to do it in the 1 hour PT session, so they want to focus on things you need during that 1 hour)

Good luck!
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on November 06, 2018, 02:15:29 PM
POD 19:  Virtually pain free, other than some nuisances of soreness at night, zero pain.  Muscles getting stronger everyday.  I've also officially retired my Aide, as I no longer need her.  Probably could have retired her a few days ago.  Anyways, if anyone of you guys are planning to come to WPB for this and you need someone good, you can give her a ring (she let me post her # here).  I made her into the ultimate aide, forced her to learn and watch all the stretches at the Paley institute to work with me at home, knows to get me breakfast before coming up stairs at Homewood suites, automatically checks and organizes all my PT schedule, has a car to take me on Saturdays for PT as well, does my laundry at her house, etc etc.  Also when I leave here in a couple of months, I'll be donating my Stretching Table, my Foam roller, and all equipment I bought for this process to her so that the next person can benefit from it.  Anyways, hope she helps someone else in the future!  You can negotiate your rate with her -> Denise, 857-249-4442

in terms of ability to ambulate right now, if I didn't sway so much from having weak hip muscles (which I'm working on with lateral side leg raises) , I'd be able to walk completely normal (I think).

One thing I wished I knew before this surgery is, the most important muscle that will be hardest to recover are your hip muscles and your gluteus.  Tons of squats and that one machine that females typically use where you sit and push your legs laterally, would have helped big time - I think.  These are the muscle groups that recovers last.  Almost everyone I've seen in their later stages (5cm+) still sway with their gait.  The PT guys says that almost everyone gets their quadriceps and hamstrings back pretty fast, it's these two muscle groups that comes last.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: Cyj on November 12, 2018, 02:48:06 PM
Hi,may I know how much you pay for this STYDRE?
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: hotty on November 12, 2018, 03:37:17 PM
Nice diary. Do you think you can post a video of walking, physio etc?
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on November 15, 2018, 11:59:34 PM
POD 28:  Haven't posted in awhile.  Things are going pretty cruise control at this rate.  I know a lot of you guys want videos, and I'll try to make one.  One of the things that happens when you do this is that you get so busy with stretching and doing work online, or other things that you begin to neglect the forum.  I try to keep in mind that I was once on the other side looking for as much info as possible, so for that reason I'll try my best to get a video up soon. 

Here's an overall recap of everything thus far and my recommendations to date for everyone...if I had to do everything over again and knowing what I know now:

Pre-Op:
Get your Vitamin D levels checked, make sure its optimized, if not take Vitamin D Supplements
Work out your Gluteal muscles like you've never done before as you're gonna lose that big time
Work out your Hip ABductors. that will help with the swaying as you get your strength back
Stretch your hamstring to the max
Stretch your quads
Do daily "thomas stretch" (look it up)
ITB - not so much as they'll release it if you're doing at Paley
Pre book your room, homewood suites has been a great experience, book early and make sure they know you want a handicap accessible room, the folding seat to shower is money
Arrive 1-2 days early and fill your room up with TONS of water, Buy tylenol PM + regular tylenol extra strength for pain, Bandaids, Mederma, Aquaphore for wound care, buy those Icy Hot Sticker pads for pain, buy heating pads, buy cold packs (the one you can put in freezer and then place on areas of pain, buy snacks
Buy loose fitting clothes that you can easily put on and off
Buy this bed table (my favorite purchase as I can do everything from my bed):https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FR4Z5GW/ -- nothing is more comfortable than working from your bed
Get an aide for at least 1 week, 24/7 and then you can determine more or less (i placed my aide's info in one of my threads above if you want)
buy a stretching strap to help you stretch
Buy Vitamin D, Magnesium, and Calcium Supplements to take daily
Buy meal replacement drinks (i did soylent)
Buy protein supplements and a magic bullet or equivalent (your muscles will be weak so you want to help it grow back fast asap)
Bring swiming trunks, you wanna do pool therapy as your cleared . it'll help you big time

Post Procedure (in hospital):
pack tons of extra snacks and food in your backpack, ask nurse if you can order uber eats or whatever, you're gonna be starving if not nauseous
try to move your legs early, your legs will essentially be non functional so try to use your hands to pull your legs and contract your knee, etc.  Since i wasn't too flexible, i used to use my toe on one another to slowly slide my heels up on the bed until i can grab the back of my leg and bend my knees, i think this helped a lot with my current flexibility of my knee

Post procedure day 3-4 (in hotel)
take it easy, don't overdo your stretches and try to force yourself, or you gonna be in TONS of pain, do the exercises PT gives you but nothing more.  Then starting week 3, you can start pushing yourself a bit more.  Get in the hot tub and relax your muscles, the sooner the better, LA fitness has hot tubs, etc, I also stretch a lot in the hot tub, it relaxes your muscles big time and makes i easier to stretch

Many days you'll find yourself just laying around, just keep moving your legs and stretching, you'll get stronger and stronger.  After week 2 it's not so much your surgery pain it's more muscle strain pain and usage pain as the muscles are weak and starts to come back to "life" if you will, just fight through it, it'll get better daily

Today, POD 28 I can say other than muscle soreness from working out and intense stretching I don't have pain, I still do take tylenol and ibuprofen but it's more for discomfort that feels like you worked out all day.

If you plan to work remotely, you realistically won't be able to until week 3 realistically.  I started week 1 and 2 but i could only be maybe 20-30% efficient, week 3 is when you can go full mode again

In terms of ambulation, I get around with a cane now, at home i walk without a cane.  My swaying due to week hip abductors is getting less and less everyday.  Sometimes right after PT when they really stretch me out, I can walk for a good 20 mins and you won't notice any issues with me gait at all.  For long distances I still use crutches as my gluteals again are super weak and get sore when I have to walk far.

Overall, I will tell you this has been a great experience.  A lot of diaries on here seems to have a lot of complications, so I consider myself lucky.  One thing I will tell you as well -- is that almost everyone I've met here is doing well.  Today I saw someone 3 weeks post op visit, 8cm femurs, the guy walked around completely NORMAL - no gait issues at all.  It was pretty incredible.

Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: MirinHeight on November 16, 2018, 02:18:15 AM
POD 28:  Haven't posted in awhile.  Things are going pretty cruise control at this rate.  I know a lot of you guys want videos, and I'll try to make one.  One of the things that happens when you do this is that you get so busy with stretching and doing work online, or other things that you begin to neglect the forum.  I try to keep in mind that I was once on the other side looking for as much info as possible, so for that reason I'll try my best to get a video up soon. 

Here's an overall recap of everything thus far and my recommendations to date for everyone...if I had to do everything over again and knowing what I know now:

Pre-Op:
Get your Vitamin D levels checked, make sure its optimized, if not take Vitamin D Supplements
Work out your Gluteal muscles like you've never done before as you're gonna lose that big time
Work out your Hip ABductors. that will help with the swaying as you get your strength back
Stretch your hamstring to the max
Stretch your quads
Do daily "thomas stretch" (look it up)
ITB - not so much as they'll release it if you're doing at Paley
Pre book your room, homewood suites has been a great experience, book early and make sure they know you want a handicap accessible room, the folding seat to shower is money
Arrive 1-2 days early and fill your room up with TONS of water, Buy tylenol PM + regular tylenol extra strength for pain, Bandaids, Mederma, Aquaphore for wound care, buy those Icy Hot Sticker pads for pain, buy heating pads, buy cold packs (the one you can put in freezer and then place on areas of pain, buy snacks
Buy loose fitting clothes that you can easily put on and off
Buy this bed table (my favorite purchase as I can do everything from my bed):https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FR4Z5GW/ -- nothing is more comfortable than working from your bed
Get an aide for at least 1 week, 24/7 and then you can determine more or less (i placed my aide's info in one of my threads above if you want)
buy a stretching strap to help you stretch
Buy Vitamin D, Magnesium, and Calcium Supplements to take daily
Buy meal replacement drinks (i did soylent)
Buy protein supplements and a magic bullet or equivalent (your muscles will be weak so you want to help it grow back fast asap)
Bring swiming trunks, you wanna do pool therapy as your cleared . it'll help you big time

Post Procedure (in hospital):
pack tons of extra snacks and food in your backpack, ask nurse if you can order uber eats or whatever, you're gonna be starving if not nauseous
try to move your legs early, your legs will essentially be non functional so try to use your hands to pull your legs and contract your knee, etc.  Since i wasn't too flexible, i used to use my toe on one another to slowly slide my heels up on the bed until i can grab the back of my leg and bend my knees, i think this helped a lot with my current flexibility of my knee

Post procedure day 3-4 (in hotel)
take it easy, don't overdo your stretches and try to force yourself, or you gonna be in TONS of pain, do the exercises PT gives you but nothing more.  Then starting week 3, you can start pushing yourself a bit more.  Get in the hot tub and relax your muscles, the sooner the better, LA fitness has hot tubs, etc, I also stretch a lot in the hot tub, it relaxes your muscles big time and makes i easier to stretch

Many days you'll find yourself just laying around, just keep moving your legs and stretching, you'll get stronger and stronger.  After week 2 it's not so much your surgery pain it's more muscle strain pain and usage pain as the muscles are weak and starts to come back to "life" if you will, just fight through it, it'll get better daily

Today, POD 28 I can say other than muscle soreness from working out and intense stretching I don't have pain, I still do take tylenol and ibuprofen but it's more for discomfort that feels like you worked out all day.

If you plan to work remotely, you realistically won't be able to until week 3 realistically.  I started week 1 and 2 but i could only be maybe 20-30% efficient, week 3 is when you can go full mode again

In terms of ambulation, I get around with a cane now, at home i walk without a cane.  My swaying due to week hip abductors is getting less and less everyday.  Sometimes right after PT when they really stretch me out, I can walk for a good 20 mins and you won't notice any issues with me gait at all.  For long distances I still use crutches as my gluteals again are super weak and get sore when I have to walk far.

Overall, I will tell you this has been a great experience.  A lot of diaries on here seems to have a lot of complications, so I consider myself lucky.  One thing I will tell you as well -- is that almost everyone I've met here is doing well.  Today I saw someone 3 weeks post op visit, 8cm femurs, the guy walked around completely NORMAL - no gait issues at all.  It was pretty incredible.

good to see you are doing well. Yeah a video will be very nice for pts to see who are looking to get operated with the stryde nail.

also, the pt you saw that was 3 weeks post op that was walking normal, you said he had 8 cm femurs. but he couldnt have lengthened that fast in 3 weeks. So I am a little confused by that. Can you please elaborate on this.

thank you
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on November 16, 2018, 06:49:51 AM
good to see you are doing well. Yeah a video will be very nice for pts to see who are looking to get operated with the stryde nail.

also, the pt you saw that was 3 weeks post op that was walking normal, you said he had 8 cm femurs. but he couldnt have lengthened that fast in 3 weeks. So I am a little confused by that. Can you please elaborate on this.

thank you

Sorry I meant he finished his lengthening 3 weeks ago, still in consolidation phase but was walking normally.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: MirinHeight on November 16, 2018, 06:53:55 AM
Sorry I meant he finished his lengthening 3 weeks ago, still in consolidation phase but was walking normally.

that makes perfect sense, thanks for the update man!
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: Uphill on November 16, 2018, 03:24:52 PM
Hi, Superuser

Very exciting diary!  Wish your lenthening and recovery a super smooth one.
I will have a consultation next month, and will stay at homewood for 2 nights. Hopefully I have chance to talk with you.
I have some questions:
1. Could you share the link where you bought your stretch table?
2. Where did you find your helper?

Thank you
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on November 25, 2018, 04:49:56 AM
POD 39: currently at about 3.2cm.  Just general tightness in my IT bands; hamstrings starting to get tight but nothing crazy yet.  Sore by the end of the day due to muscle fatigue.  Ambulation quality and gait continues to improve daily.  I did get a little lazy stretching which I would advise NOT to do.  Made my hamstrings go from 90 degrees to about 75 degrees. Going to work hard to get it back.. we’ll see.  Diet wise I’m drinking a lot of protein to try to rebuild muscle. Everything is pretty cruise control right now.  Getting 8-10 hrs of sleep every night on no medications.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: Trevor.P on November 27, 2018, 01:49:23 AM
You say it looks like everyone is fine ...
Do you believe or see someone who is not well? have problems?
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: Bastouille on November 27, 2018, 07:59:44 PM
God da_n, what a great read!  Keep it going man.  I had consultation 2 months ago and I'm going for Stryde too in March.

These nails look like game changers.  I wonder how they compare with Guichet's internal in Milan, other than you don't have to go through painful clicks.

How long, in hours, would you say you stretch or train every day?  Could you do all this PT at home if the trainer would come to your place?
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: Bastouille on November 28, 2018, 06:18:46 PM
A video of you walking at this point would be very useful.  Please consider.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: Pilor on December 08, 2018, 08:26:50 PM
Hi, how are you doing?
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on December 10, 2018, 02:47:30 AM
Hi,

Hitting 5.0cm tomorrow. I really only have left knee pain that bothers me right now - it’s not constant only comes and goes when I flex and extend my knee.  My knees are bending now at rest and it takes some extension of my muscle but I can still straighten out both knees fine. I had some sharp nerve pains in my right lower leg from time to time last week but it’s gone.

Overall the feeling of some soreness and tightness everyday sucks but the experience overall has been great with the stryde nail. Until my knee started hurting two days ago I was ambulatory mostly without a cane or crutch.

I recorded a video today will post some soon once we edit things out.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: Pilor on December 10, 2018, 06:14:36 AM
Can aoyouu sit bormally on a chair without pain and for a longper period of time?

So excited for the video !!

Thanks man
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: Bastouille on December 12, 2018, 07:51:25 PM
Great question.  How long can you sit on a chair without too much issue?

How's sleeping?  Do you sleep on your side?  Would that be possible? 

Do you think you could do PT at home if you had a trainer that would come in every day?
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: Bastouille on January 07, 2019, 04:07:53 PM
Is this Diary dead?  That's disappointing...
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: Renaissance on January 07, 2019, 06:34:43 PM
Superusercj1 are you okay ?
Please give us some news.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on January 11, 2019, 02:47:56 AM
Hi everyone! Sorry been so busy with work.

Here’s some updates:

I stopped my lengthening around December 27-28.  I stopped because I wanted to be on the more conservative side in terms of full athletic recovery. I was a bit tight but could easily gone to 70mm or 80mm if I wanted to.  Had my X-rays the first week of January and I was at 65mm, with magnification factored in I was a about 5.9-6.0.

Today, about 2 weeks after lengthening, I can now go up and down stairs without holding the rails. I can walk 95% normal with a cane’s help and 80% without.  The reason for this is because I’m still tight in my hamstrings and also my gluteals are super sore after walking and forcing my stride to be more narrow.

Socially, it feels amazing to be about 2.3” or so taller. No one really noticed, I just got a lot of comments that I looked skinnier.  But it feels great going out now. I haven’t been wearing my
Normal lifts to get everyone acquainted with the new height - but I’ll start soon ;).

I’m going to come back in the winter to do my tibias to even out my femur tibia ratio back to 0.9 as my femurs do look noticeably longer.

Overall super happy I did it, can’t beleive I did something this crazy but super happy I did.  Happy to field questions if you guys have any.  Also I have the video from when I was at 55cm or so that I still need to upload !
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on January 11, 2019, 02:53:01 AM
One last key component - the entire process was great - staying at the homewood suite you meet other patients.  Myself, myevolution, and a couple of other guys hung out, went to miami etc. it really helped time fly.

So if you guys do this, try to find some friends either on the board or at Paley’s to hang out with. 
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: Ayesha12345 on January 11, 2019, 02:58:21 AM
Wow glad you had no complications! One of the smoothest recoveries I reckon. How soon were you able to head home? If I am flying from out of United States do you think I can head back home a week after surgery? And yeah do you walk normal now without cane, as in will someone look at you & not notice your walk being a little off normal? Will appreciate id you can answer thanks
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on January 11, 2019, 03:06:18 AM
Hi Ayesha,

I’m not sure if they will let you lengthen abroad.  I think you need at least 2-3 weeks before you’re healthy enough to fly if they let you. There’s a lot of muscle soreness and discomfort the first 2-3 weeks so flying would be brutal.

But about 1.5 months in when I was at 4.7cm or so I actually went back to work for a day... that required me to walk around the entire day. I went through that day without any assisted device but I was brutally sore by the end of the day and definitely walked funny.

Yes if someone were to see me walking right nkw they’d notice, I think at the rate of progress I’ll be normal by end of January.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: TemakiSushi on January 11, 2019, 05:23:32 AM
Thank you very much for your detailed diary  :)
It’s is so helpful and I’m very happy to hear you completed without any complications

Have you seen any tibia patients with Stryde at Paley’s?
If so how were they doing?
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on January 11, 2019, 06:51:19 AM
Yes, there were a bunch of stryde patients there who were doing both femurs and tibias at the same time.  I didn’t meet anyone doing only tibias stryde.

The people I met were doing well ... until the last week or so, I heard that someone’s nail had a malfunction but that’s all I know about it.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: Astronomy on January 11, 2019, 07:38:36 AM
Best wishes for you!:)
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: Pilor on January 14, 2019, 02:36:52 PM
Hi superusercj1,

When did you start weight-bearing, and in retrospection would you say this point was to early?
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: MirinHeight on January 14, 2019, 05:15:06 PM
please post pics
and hopefully you can post a video as well.

people on here should not consider any diary as legit without proof.

Thank you,
mirinheight
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on January 16, 2019, 03:45:03 AM
Hi superusercj1,

When did you start weight-bearing, and in retrospection would you say this point was to early?

I was on the walker a lot during the first two weeks because I wanted to walk as fast as possible.  In retrospect , I should have taken it easy first two weeks as your body heals from the fractured femur and gets over that inflammation. Also gives your muscle rest as they release aka cut your muscles and also spread your muscles to get the rod in.

Your quad strength and hamstrings comes back pretty quickly and those are also the easiest muscles to work out.  But the rate limiting muscle are actually your gluteals. If I could do it all over again, I would have stayed mostly in bed and do side leg raises to strengthen my gluteals since that’s the slowest muscle to return.

I did my first true weight bear the entire day the first week of December , or 1.5 months or so after the surgery. I actually went to work , walked around funny , was sore by end of the day, but it wasn’t anything craZy. It did suck to stand a lot so I would take breaks to relax and sit down.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: InFullStryde on January 16, 2019, 11:58:42 PM
I was on the walker a lot during the first two weeks because I wanted to walk as fast as possible.  In retrospect , I should have taken it easy first two weeks as your body heals from the fractured femur and gets over that inflammation. Also gives your muscle rest as they release aka cut your muscles and also spread your muscles to get the rod in.

Your quad strength and hamstrings comes back pretty quickly and those are also the easiest muscles to work out.  But the rate limiting muscle are actually your gluteals. If I could do it all over again, I would have stayed mostly in bed and do side leg raises to strengthen my gluteals since that’s the slowest muscle to return.

I did my first true weight bear the entire day the first week of December , or 1.5 months or so after the surgery. I actually went to work , walked around funny , was sore by end of the day, but it wasn’t anything craZy. It did suck to stand a lot so I would take breaks to relax and sit down.

Congrats on your first weight bear day!   I cannot agree more with you regarding taking it easy the first couple of weeks.   I finally was able to get on the walker today 13 days after surgery and it felt great. Little pain at all.  As soon as my left leg is stronger and healed up; I should be able to start walking pretty well.   Thank you for the great post.  Helps newcomers like myself who just had surgery feel a lot  more at ease and aligns our expectations properly.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: kkt122 on January 20, 2019, 10:35:50 PM
How bearable is the pain? Are you still able to function daily normally or does the pain really impair you?
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on February 03, 2019, 06:06:46 AM
Hey guys,

FYI quick update - I’m about one month out from my last turn and I am about 95% normal.  Just some soreness in my gluts when I walk far but it’s getting better everyday. My hamstrings and still tight but doesn’t effect my gait.

I’m going to start doing yoga and getting in great shape - the stryde Nail is a def game changer.  I’m just waiting to take my x rays at the end of February once im cleared I’m going to try jogging / running.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: wannagrowtaller on February 03, 2019, 08:31:35 AM
Did you ask Paley to no perform IT Band release on you?
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on February 03, 2019, 12:46:24 PM
When I was there I was told he started doing it on everyone - So yep - I got it done
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: BladeRunner on February 03, 2019, 12:51:45 PM
Grats!
amazing recovery 1 month post op.

U're saying its down to Stryde. But do you think there were other factors too involved?
like in first post you bought stretching cable + proteins?
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: MichaelJose on February 03, 2019, 01:34:50 PM
Can you speak more about the ratio difference? you said it looks noticeably longer - does this mean if you didn't have the money/time for tibs you would be unhappy/regretful?

Also are you judging the noticeable ratio difference off looking in the mirror, comments from others or pictures standing next to other people?
Thanks!
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: wannagrowtaller on February 03, 2019, 04:22:03 PM
When I was there I was told he started doing it on everyone - So yep - I got it done
But you said you felt your it bands tight.

Everyday I see significant improvement in ROM.  Right now my knee has full flexion, my Hamstrings can go 90 degrees when I lay flat, but my IT Bands are horrid - laying flat, I can't bring my legs together, I can feel it really tight on both sides, I can't lay flat and put one leg over the other at my ankles either. 

Just general tightness in my IT bands;
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: Jubartt169 on February 04, 2019, 02:44:18 PM
Good luck for you!

Hope you'll do well.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on February 07, 2019, 06:38:35 AM
Grats!
amazing recovery 1 month post op.

U're saying its down to Stryde. But do you think there were other factors too involved?
like in first post you bought stretching cable + proteins?

I think the protein helped my muscles recover a lot, I was a stretch machine during the first 50% but slacked big time over time

I really think it’s the stryde, I keep in touch with two other guys and they’re recovered as well one went to 8.0cm and the other went to 6.6cm? Around there
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on February 07, 2019, 06:40:16 AM
But you said you felt your it bands tight.

All because you have it done it doesn’t mean you still won’t feel tightness the procedure entails them cutting your itb and manually lengthening it - your body goes through a process in which the parts that are sewn together regenerates and makes muscle. It’s not like you got it and you become loose automatically
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: Ayesha12345 on February 09, 2019, 05:58:19 PM
Hey! I’m so happy for your healthy recovery- how’s your walking now- is it completely normal and unassisted? Also did you see any woman doing stryde with Paley? Or any women at all doing LL there?
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: BeYourBest on March 23, 2019, 12:35:53 AM
Hey man, great read and congracts on the increase in height! I hope you’re still doing well.


Would it be possible to get some pics of x-rays or some vids where you blur your face or something?

Thanks

Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: TheAlchemist on April 20, 2019, 10:26:32 PM
Hey man, very insightful and inspiring diary.
Would love to get a quick update on how you are doing? Approaching 5 months since you stopped lengthening, how has your recovery been? Is your walk and mobility back to normal, and if so, when do you think you crossed that threshold?
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: Kenda on April 30, 2019, 12:40:00 PM
Hi So i am a girl 152 cm and been considering stryde for femurs even though my tibias would look better if taller , However ive been considering it for Femursin order to get the Maximum Full 8 Cm without anything less!
But you said thatyou stopped at 6.5 ?i would assume u have an athletic body (muscular) so does bodies like that with alot of muscles in legs specially form more Resistance and pain due to strong muscles ?

Because in my case i have No muscle at all, and i was sondering is this something fo my advantage? Having a skinny leg no muscle resistance ? Can i reach the 8 cm ?

~~ note ; i have tight short tendons tho, specially in knee area
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: wannagrowtaller on April 30, 2019, 08:20:07 PM
I think the minimum stryde diameter is 10mm, it may not fit inside your femur.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on May 08, 2019, 03:16:10 AM
Yes I stopped around 6.5 because I was feeling really tight as well as read horror stories on forum that said ppl couldn’t make a full recovery.

Today I can tell you Ive made a full recovery - no pain and completely normal gait.  Have wondered time to time what if I pushed myself another 1.5CM.

But super happy with where I’m at ! I am going to wait a solid year before skiing again but don’t have any physical limitation that I can tell otherwise - good luck !

Hi So i am a girl 152 cm and been considering stryde for femurs even though my tibias would look better if taller , However ive been considering it for Femursin order to get the Maximum Full 8 Cm without anything less!
But you said thatyou stopped at 6.5 ?i would assume u have an athletic body (muscular) so does bodies like that with alot of muscles in legs specially form more Resistance and pain due to strong muscles ?

Because in my case i have No muscle at all, and i was sondering is this something fo my advantage? Having a skinny leg no muscle resistance ? Can i reach the 8 cm ?

~~ note ; i have tight short tendons tho, specially in knee area
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: JsElysianEagle on May 08, 2019, 08:28:43 AM
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Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: BeYourBest on May 08, 2019, 01:04:22 PM
Thanks for the update - I’m glad that you’re doing well!

Any chance of a video, please? Would be nice to see what you’re walking like particularly because I’m looking at Paley for femur Stryde.

Wish you the best.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: TheAlchemist on May 09, 2019, 05:22:38 PM
Great to hear about a a successful recovery.

Can you recall when you crossed the threshold of walking 100% normal from the perspective of other people (family, friends, co workers) from the time of finishing lengthening. Reading through your diary, nearly a month out it seemed like you were very close to normal, and now it sounds like you are there 100%. Just trying to understand when that threshold was crossed for you since then.

Thanks!
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: MirinHeight on May 09, 2019, 09:38:33 PM
not a single picture or video was posted in this diary.
take everything you read on here with a grain of salt if no proof available.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: TheAlchemist on May 10, 2019, 02:48:22 AM
not a single picture or video was posted in this diary.
take everything you read on here with a grain of salt if no proof available.

There was another user MyEvolution who has pictures/vids who did his procedure the same time as this user and their diaries overlapped
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: BeYourBest on May 10, 2019, 04:25:55 PM
There was another user MyEvolution who has pictures/vids who did his procedure the same time as this user and their diaries overlapped

What’s your point?
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: TheAlchemist on May 10, 2019, 05:48:11 PM
What’s your point?

They acknowledged that they both existed (i.e. MyEvolution who is verified acknowledged that superuser was there while he was there). Again I totally understand the skepticism but just calling this out.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: BeYourBest on May 11, 2019, 12:58:58 AM
They acknowledged that they both existed (i.e. MyEvolution who is verified acknowledged that superuser was there while he was there). Again I totally understand the skepticism but just calling this out.

Ahh fair enough
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: PANDA:BEAR.. on May 14, 2019, 05:29:47 PM
Does ... anyone know if you can stay at Dr paley's hospital for the entire lengthening time ?
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: InFullStryde on May 14, 2019, 06:07:24 PM
Does ... anyone know if you can stay at Dr paley's hospital for the entire lengthening time ?

You can't stay at the hospital, but Dr. Paley has a partnership with a nearby Hotel.  His packages include transportation to and from physical therapy from the Hotel.  You receive a discount for the hotel as a Paley LL patient.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: PANDA:BEAR.. on May 14, 2019, 06:09:26 PM
Thank you .. I hope you like your new highly.. you made it look easy  ;)
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: InFullStryde on May 14, 2019, 06:17:48 PM
Thank you .. I hope you like your new highly.. you made it look easy  ;)

Thank you, Panda! Still working hard in recovery; but I'm making good progress! Let me know if you have any additional questions and I'm glad to help if I can.

IFS
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: 21FRANCO on May 15, 2019, 12:32:56 AM
How much would it cost the partnership with the surgery ?
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: PANDA:BEAR.. on May 15, 2019, 04:59:34 PM
Thank you, Panda! Still working hard in recovery; but I'm making good progress! Let me know if you have any additional questions and I'm glad to help if I can.

IFS

Hi... I sent you an email ... regarding questions...please kindly check and reply...

Thanks Panda bear :)
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: tallica on May 17, 2019, 01:40:42 PM
But super happy with where I’m at ! I am going to wait a solid year before skiing again but don’t have any physical limitation that I can tell otherwise - good luck !

Glad you've recovered so well. And thanks for mentioning skiing. Because I've always wondered to what degree you remain functional 1 year post-op.
Skiing is very hard on legs as you do slalom you rotate with high pressure. Considering we don't aim to be a professional at skiing, do you think it's possible to regain average skiing abilities.

Same question goes for going to gym and doing squats, deadlifts etc. (Again assuming I don't aim to be a bulky body builder), can we regain enough strength to continue these activities?

What are your opinions on this?
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on June 02, 2019, 03:57:14 AM
Glad you've recovered so well. And thanks for mentioning skiing. Because I've always wondered to what degree you remain functional 1 year post-op.
Skiing is very hard on legs as you do slalom you rotate with high pressure. Considering we don't aim to be a professional at skiing, do you think it's possible to regain average skiing abilities.

Same question goes for going to gym and doing squats, deadlifts etc. (Again assuming I don't aim to be a bulky body builder), can we regain enough strength to continue these activities?

What are your opinions on this?

Hey, sorry been awhile, once you’re done with this process you kind of just ignore the forum and get back to your normal life.

Anyways, at this point I would say I’m 98% back to normal. The 2% is because when I do super strenuous stuff like uphill hiking I still get sore, but that’s mainly because I am still getting my muscles back.  Every time I exercise I can do things for longer and longer periods.

Overall this has been an awesome decision for me.  If anyone is considering it, Stryde is definitely a game changer.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: TheAlchemist on June 02, 2019, 08:49:57 PM
Hey, sorry been awhile, once you’re done with this process you kind of just ignore the forum and get back to your normal life.

Anyways, at this point I would say I’m 98% back to normal. The 2% is because when I do super strenuous stuff like uphill hiking I still get sore, but that’s mainly because I am still getting my muscles back.  Every time I exercise I can do things for longer and longer periods.

Overall this has been an awesome decision for me.  If anyone is considering it, Stryde is definitely a game changer.

Best outcome IMO. Glad that you are enjoying your new height and have hopefully gotten rid of the height dysphoria! At this point, how do you feel about the height gain and the overall process? Was it worth it?
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on September 25, 2019, 04:38:04 AM
Hey TheAlchemist,

Yes my height neurosis was cleared up completely even though my overall height is still on the shorter side.

Saw you’re here doing femurs, I just did my Tibias today.

Maybe we’ll meet !
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on September 25, 2019, 04:45:22 AM
Okay back at it again, this time bilateral tibia stryde with Paley - about 1 year after bilateral stryde femur.

Prior to the procedure, I was walking completely normal with no gait issues or pain. Felt completely normal.  Stretching wise, can stretch to about 2 inches from my toe.

POD 0:
Pain. Tibia is 100% more painful than femurs. Since getting out the operating room I’ve been on around the clock pain medications. Everytime I try to move my leg there’s significant pain right below my knee.  And man does it hurt.  Femurs I barely took pain meds.  Tibia on the other hand has been pretty brutal and I’m having a lot of trouble sleeping.

This time around I’m doing it with a friend and thus far the experience has been better from a mental support perspective.  We also have a caretaker that brings  food  to the hospital as we learned last year they don’t feed us enough ;)

Well that’s it for now, going to try to get some rest.




Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on September 25, 2019, 10:29:11 AM
Couldn’t find a way to change the topic name, can someone tell admin or let me know how to change topic to “Bilateral femur Stryde with Dr. Paley, followed by Bilateral Tibia stryde 1 yr later”

This way it’s more appropriately named for forum readers

Thanks !
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: TheAlchemist on September 25, 2019, 12:06:34 PM
Best of luck man! I'm currently doing bilateral femurs with Paley. Staying at Homewood. Your original diary on femurs was super helpful for me while planning this out. Would love to meet up sometime.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: MyEvolution on September 25, 2019, 01:45:33 PM
YOU GOT THIS!! Yes there is pain involved, yes its tough BUT i promise you this. If you do your stretches 3x / day you WILL hit 8cm
Last year by the time I hit 8 i was soo good i could have gone for 9cm if it was possible

You got this, when in doubt stretch it out
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: Dreamer57 on September 25, 2019, 01:57:29 PM
Pls can you post your x-rays!
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: InFullStryde on September 25, 2019, 07:37:36 PM
Good luck, man! You're Height max'n! Love that.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on September 25, 2019, 09:54:38 PM
Uhh MyEvolution - this isn’t a femur diary it’s a tibia , and I’m doing Tibias with you :p you forgot my user name already
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: Dreamer57 on September 27, 2019, 12:45:08 PM
Hey man....pls post xray! Would love to see them.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on September 30, 2019, 04:24:41 PM
Hey man....pls post xray! Would love to see them.

No X rays yet, haven’t had that appt

POD 7 -

Legs have zero pain when I don’t move, about 4/10 when I move my legs.  Super hard to bend my knee, I can probably bend it to 90 degrees before having 5/10 pain right below the front of my knee.  Today I was able to use the walker on my own to get to the bathroom but it was more 80% upper body than my legs actually doing the steps ;) standing on both legs I’m fine, 3/10 pain.  Overall my legs are still swollen, there’s ankle edema and also both my knees are swollen and I can feel the fluids.  Have an appointment with luke tomorrow for my machine and also PT as well.  So far things are going well.

I have a feeling tibia is going to be easier than femurs given that I have full muscle functions unlike femurs when all my muscle groups were hurting and disabled.  If it wasn’t for this pain I’d probably be able to walk normally.

My goal is to be on crutches next week. Fingers crossed.

Oh btw, I’m doing this with myEvolution, super helpful from a mental perspective to have someone going through it with you- makes time fly faster, all we do is chill and play video games lol

Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: Dreamer57 on October 02, 2019, 06:39:53 PM
A question abt ur pre op tibia time....After femurs...hadyou gotten to a point where you can do all the stuff normally , sports running...Like before pre op femurs....And yeah what abt proportions after tibia? Btw I wish you luck for the coming few days...Hope everything goes as you planned...Do drop in the x-rays when u get them!
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on October 05, 2019, 12:19:47 PM
POD 11:
Pain is better and swelling is decreasing.

Overall I’d say the pain is around 3-5/10.  I’m now able to walk with a walker but slowly mainly due to pain when I try to walk.  Knee bend is still super difficult, mainly stuck at 90 degrees.  Hoping that they all this discomfort and swelling goes away over the next 7 days, want to be on crutches so I can ambulate so bad. 

Overall tibia has been easier than femur simply due to less muscle groups to stretch and also because you don’t really lose mobility of your upper legs.   

Will keep everyone posted, first follow up coming up in 9 days.

So far I’ve lengthened 3.0mm, Doing 0.25 3x a day



Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on October 10, 2019, 02:28:50 AM
POD 15 - no pain in my right leg , left leg remains painful as well as swollen around the osteotony site.  Currently using 40% walker 60% wheelchair. Calf are super weak but getting better.

The splint they give you is terrible to use, super uncomfortable so avoiding them for now until both legs are 100% pain free
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on October 13, 2019, 01:06:15 AM
POD 18 - pain is much better. For awhile my left leg was super swollen around the osteotomy site compared to my right leg.  Swelling has now gone down. I’d say I am still about 30% swollen on left and 10% on right.  I am now ambulatory with a walker, but just in my room. Long distances causes pain and swelling, so that wheelchair is still everything.  In terms of sleep,
Sleeping better , maybe 4 hours a night , legs do get sore at night , about a 3/10 pain that’s just annoying enough to keep you from sleeping.  Have my follow up Monday so hope things are well. I hope to by on walker/crutches by end of this upcoming week.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: CodyTheDog on October 13, 2019, 03:17:49 PM
POD 18 - pain is much better. For awhile my left leg was super swollen around the osteotomy site compared to my right leg.  Swelling has now gone down. I’d say I am still about 30% swollen on left and 10% on right.  I am now ambulatory with a walker, but just in my room. Long distances causes pain and swelling, so that wheelchair is still everything.  In terms of sleep,
Sleeping better , maybe 4 hours a night , legs do get sore at night , about a 3/10 pain that’s just annoying enough to keep you from sleeping.  Have my follow up Monday so hope things are well. I hope to by on walker/crutches by end of this upcoming week.

superusercj1, thanks for sharing your experiences! How much money would you budget to do 8 cm of femur lengthening with your doctor? Including living costs and everything?
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on October 23, 2019, 03:03:57 AM
POD 28 -
It’s been exactly 4 weeks since my procedure. Am now walking pretty confidently with crutches.  My anterior ankle on my right hurts 9/10 pain and is brutal at night. The left side is closer to 2/10.  This is likely due to overuse, as I really push myself to dorsiflex.

Other than this, I’m becoming more compliant with the splints they give you. I ordered ones off amazon and they’re a lot more comfortable.  I’m wearing them strictly at night. 

Otherwise appetite is good and I’m able to work from home at about 60% efficiency(it’s difficult to fully focus).

In terms of tightness, I’ve been stretching on the incline board 3-4x a day. I’m still very loose but I’m also still only at around 17mm.  We’ll see, I think I’m going to start getting tight around 3 to 4 cm.

Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on October 26, 2019, 02:30:49 AM
POD 31 -
Shin/Tibia pain almost completely resolved. I can walk without any assistive device, but slow and wobbly. Playing this safe and going to stick with crutches for the near future, I can probably walk pretty well with a cane but just the thought of what’s holding my body up are smaller tibia bones doesn’t make me very confident :p

Sleep wise it’s much better but because I’m walking more, my entire legs are achy at night - all the way up to my gluteus  - I’m taking what’s left of my oxy and OTC Tylenol to get by. 

I’m currently at 1.925cm. If it’s similar to last year, I’m about to enter the “honeymoon” stage where between 2-4cm, post surgical pain is gone and you’re starting to get tight but you’re not crazy walk weird tight yet. 🤞🏼

In terms of what I’m aiming for, I’d love to hit 6 if possible however a lot of people say most patients achieve 4-5, my plan is to take it 1cm at a time and go as far as I can until I’m told it’s dangerous to continue.

PS other than more pain during the first 2-3 weeks, tibia has been exponentially easier than femurs. It’s really just 2 “main” stretch and those stretches you can pull off yourself without an assistant.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: TheAlchemist on October 26, 2019, 03:41:34 PM
POD 31 -
Shin/Tibia pain almost completely resolved. I can walk without any assistive device, but slow and wobbly. Playing this safe and going to stick with crutches for the near future, I can probably walk pretty well with a cane but just the thought of what’s holding my body up are smaller tibia bones doesn’t make me very confident :p

Sleep wise it’s much better but because I’m walking more, my entire legs are achy at night - all the way up to my gluteus  - I’m taking what’s left of my oxy and OTC Tylenol to get by. 

I’m currently at 1.925cm. If it’s similar to last year, I’m about to enter the “honeymoon” stage where between 2-4cm, post surgical pain is gone and you’re starting to get tight but you’re not crazy walk weird tight yet. 🤞🏼

In terms of what I’m aiming for, I’d love to hit 6 if possible however a lot of people say most patients achieve 4-5, my plan is to take it 1cm at a time and go as far as I can until I’m told it’s dangerous to continue.

PS other than more pain during the first 2-3 weeks, tibia has been exponentially easier than femurs. It’s really just 2 “main” stretch and those stretches you can pull off yourself without an assistant.

Nice!!! Let's get it!!
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on November 25, 2019, 01:44:57 AM
POD 60

Journeys over! Stopping at ~4.1 getting a bit tight but nothing crazy. I stopped wearing my splints 3 weeks ago in favor of sleep and cut down my stretching a lot because I started getting lazy ;).  Reason for stopping is because I was told that as most people approach 5, they enter a danger zone where it’s extremely difficult to recover full athletic ability.  This freaked me out as I’m an avid snowboarder and skier so I’m going to stay on the safer side.  Overall very happy with my new height, I’m about 5’7.5 and started 5’3.  I could have gone to 5cm without much more tightness but just didn’t want any risks.

As of now I still have my femur and tibia rods in and plan to remove them next year ... unless I rebreak - I’d have 1.4 for femurs and 3.9 for Tibias.

We’ll see - good luck to all who’s starting this Journey. For me it was 100% worth it and it has changed my life.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: JenniferFromSeattle on November 25, 2019, 02:01:36 AM
Congratulations!!!!  That's a great decision to stop.  It's much better to be safe then sorry. 

I'm scheduled to have my femur lengthened by Dr. Paley on Tuesday. :)
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: TheAlchemist on November 25, 2019, 02:18:40 AM
POD 60

Journeys over! Stopping at ~4.1 getting a bit tight but nothing crazy. I stopped wearing my splints 3 weeks ago in favor of sleep and cut down my stretching a lot because I started getting lazy ;).  Reason for stopping is because I was told that as most people approach 5, they enter a danger zone where it’s extremely difficult to recover full athletic ability.  This freaked me out as I’m an avid snowboarder and skier so I’m going to stay on the safer side.  Overall very happy with my new height, I’m about 5’7.5 and started 5’3.  I could have gone to 5cm without much more tightness but just didn’t want any risks.

As of now I still have my femur and tibia rods in and plan to remove them next year ... unless I rebreak - I’d have 1.4 for femurs and 3.9 for Tibias.

We’ll see - good luck to all who’s starting this Journey. For me it was 100% worth it and it has changed my life.

Woohoo! Grats on an amazing outcome! Time to party
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: MyEvolution on November 26, 2019, 06:18:49 AM
They acknowledged that they both existed (i.e. MyEvolution who is verified acknowledged that superuser was there while he was there). Again I totally understand the skepticism but just calling this out.

Yea superuest is my LL roomate for tibias, & i met him last year during femurs. Usually i agree that you should always post photos and stuff but I can confirm this is a real person
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: MyEvolution on November 26, 2019, 06:19:46 AM
They acknowledged that they both existed (i.e. MyEvolution who is verified acknowledged that superuser was there while he was there). Again I totally understand the skepticism but just calling this out.

Yea superuest is my LL roomate for tibias, & i met him last year during femurs. Usually i agree that you should always post photos and stuff but I can confirm this is a real person
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: MyEvolution on November 26, 2019, 06:23:56 AM
POD 60

 I’m about 5’7.5 and started 5’3.


I’d say you’re more like 5’8.5
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: dreamBig on November 28, 2019, 06:26:58 PM
POD 60

Journeys over! Stopping at ~4.1 getting a bit tight but nothing crazy. I stopped wearing my splints 3 weeks ago in favor of sleep and cut down my stretching a lot because I started getting lazy ;).  Reason for stopping is because I was told that as most people approach 5, they enter a danger zone where it’s extremely difficult to recover full athletic ability.  This freaked me out as I’m an avid snowboarder and skier so I’m going to stay on the safer side.  Overall very happy with my new height, I’m about 5’7.5 and started 5’3.  I could have gone to 5cm without much more tightness but just didn’t want any risks.

As of now I still have my femur and tibia rods in and plan to remove them next year ... unless I rebreak - I’d have 1.4 for femurs and 3.9 for Tibias.

We’ll see - good luck to all who’s starting this Journey. For me it was 100% worth it and it has changed my life.

hi superusercj1, congrats on finishing your great journey to the new height!   As far as athletic ability is concerned, what is the safe zone for femur lengthening? You mentioned that you did 6.6cm for femur, I assume it would be in the neighborhood of 7cm?
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: Klord on November 28, 2019, 08:27:14 PM
hi cj,

I loved reading your blog. It is really amazing to see stryde is a game-changing factor. I wonder one thing. Could you really say that a person who did let's say 6-7 cm femurs limb lengthening could continue his sport(fitness, jump training, martial arts or let's say basketball/football etc. ) life after recovery. You said that you achieved almost full recovery. Could you do your sports like you did pre-operation.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: Dreamer57 on December 08, 2019, 10:46:54 AM
hi cj,

I loved reading your blog. It is really amazing to see stryde is a game-changing factor. I wonder one thing. Could you really say that a person who did let's say 6-7 cm femurs limb lengthening could continue his sport(fitness, jump training, martial arts or let's say basketball/football etc. ) life after recovery. You said that you achieved almost full recovery. Could you do your sports like you did pre-operation.

Same question....
Hope you answer.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on December 11, 2019, 01:30:58 AM
Hey guys,

In regards to the athletic ability answer - it’s multifactorial.

Here’s my two cents:

1) from someone who did both femurs and Tibias, I am pretty confident that when I recover from my Tibias I’ll be 100% again
2) there’s a lot of discussion of knee pain with tibia, I can confirm it’s really low here at Paley’s. Dr Robbins even explained to me why and it made sense.  I can currently walk at 80% and I’m limited by tightness and muscle weakness that is improving everyday - I have zero knee pain.
3) athletic recover I feel will be effected a lot by your starting height. Someone who’s 5’8 and lengthen their femurs should do better than someone who’s 5’3 simply due to overall relative lengthening
4) having said above, I think that if I had gone to 8cm I don’t think I would have had issues regaining athletic ability - this assumption is based on almost every physical therapist I met at Paley’s and also how quickly I’m again recovering

In terms of recovery, I’m 2 weeks out now from stopping. I have zero calf tightness when I walk, similar to last year, all of my issues arise from weak gluteals.  Everyday you feel a lot better. I think at this rate I’ll be walking normally by January and back to sports (with clearance) by March.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on December 11, 2019, 01:34:27 AM
So to clarify - yes I do think I’m going to be able to go back to my pre operative sports.

To clarify the tightness - I had no tightness when I walk, but if I were to try to stretch I can feel I’m still tight.

One final advice - is you’re going to do this, definitely pre stretch calf for Tibias and hamstrings for femurs.  Also work out your gluteal muscles like crazy.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: Dreamer57 on December 11, 2019, 04:40:16 AM
Hey guys,

In regards to the athletic ability answer - it’s multifactorial.

Here’s my two cents:

1) from someone who did both femurs and Tibias, I am pretty confident that when I recover from my Tibias I’ll be 100% again
2) there’s a lot of discussion of knee pain with tibia, I can confirm it’s really low here at Paley’s. Dr Robbins even explained to me why and it made sense.  I can currently walk at 80% and I’m limited by tightness and muscle weakness that is improving everyday - I have zero knee pain.
3) athletic recover I feel will be effected a lot by your starting height. Someone who’s 5’8 and lengthen their femurs should do better than someone who’s 5’3 simply due to overall relative lengthening
4) having said above, I think that if I had gone to 8cm I don’t think I would have had issues regaining athletic ability - this assumption is based on almost every physical therapist I met at Paley’s and also how quickly I’m again recovering

In terms of recovery, I’m 2 weeks out now from stopping. I have zero calf tightness when I walk, similar to last year, all of my issues arise from weak gluteals.  Everyday you feel a lot better. I think at this rate I’ll be walking normally by January and back to sports (with clearance) by March.

Awesome update.....best wishes for your further recovery....
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: Klord on December 11, 2019, 08:37:36 AM
Thank you a lot, I wish you happiness for the rest of your life.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: FormerKidd on February 17, 2020, 04:23:20 PM
POD 31 -
Shin/Tibia pain almost completely resolved. I can walk without any assistive device, but slow and wobbly.

I have to say that's impressive.  I did almost the same amounts as you on femurs and tibias, and I still can't really walk without an assistive device.  However, the PTs have told me my walking is lagging behind where they expect it.

PS other than more pain during the first 2-3 weeks, tibia has been exponentially easier than femurs. It’s really just 2 “main” stretch and those stretches you can pull off yourself without an assistant.

I actually thought it was the opposite -- first few weeks were easier, but later it gets more annoying, especially mentally with the splints and all.  Most other folks I've talked so have agreed with that, too.


I wonder if we've met?  I've talked to MyEvo a few times at PT.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on May 01, 2020, 10:44:08 PM
Hey guys, checking in and posting, haven’t even thought about this forum for a few months , but this coronavirus quarantine has me running out of things to do.

So quick refresher - finished lengthening Tibia early December/late November  , can’t remember exact dates.

Took me about 4-6 weeks to get off the cane. Up until about 3-4 weeks ago
I walked with a significant limp mainly because my left gluteals were super weak still.  This improved dramatically as I started doing more stair exercises.

Today I can say that my right leg is at 100% normal gait and my left leg is at 90% normal gait. It still feels a bit weak in the quads and tight. I think that if I actively did more stair exercises this will resolve in the next 2-3 weeks.

Overall having both femur and TiBia lengthening has been quite the journey that has been both rewarding and humbling. I’m very lucky to have no knee pain and no complications that I can tell.

Super happy I did it, changed my life completely.  I used to think about my height every single day, now I haven’t thought about it in that way since after I completed my femurs. 

I highly recommend the Paley institute , great experience and great care.

Also did this with myEvo so the experience was a lot better to room with someone and play video games lol

Good luck to all you guys ready to begin your journey.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: ghkid2019 on May 02, 2020, 03:12:25 AM
Awesome man, this is the surgery I want to do. Femur then tibias one year later with Paley. Glad your gait is near perfect- that's probably the most significant marker of a good recovery.

Hope you continue your PT through covid-19 and after all is said and done, i guarantee you you will be 100 by the time covid is over. Keep stretching and working on those legs. Godspeed brother.

Quick question unrelated to your diary- am I able to do tibias after the original femur consolidation sooner than 1 year? Basically- after femur surgery- can I do tibias surgery like 6 months or 8 months after instead of waiting a whole year? I'd really like to get this over with ASAP but I understand it's alot rougher having nonrecovered femurs and doing another breakage.

Anyways- good luck in your life man, I hope you find happiness.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: TheAlchemist on May 04, 2020, 06:32:33 AM
COVID has got me back on this forum a bit too lol. Amazing outcome and very happy for you bro. Your original femur diary was one of the first I read and inspired me to move forward with this crazy but rewarding part of my life- glad to have crossed paths on our journeys.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on May 13, 2020, 03:48:53 PM
Yo man, that's basically what I did.  I did Tibias about 10 months or so after I finished femur. It depends on a bunch of stuff, which also in addition to your flexibility, age, etc how much you want to achieve?

If you want to maximize your chances to max out, you should do them 1 year apart.  Also, stretch and become as flexible as you can for both procedures.

For femurs - it's the quads and hamstrings that will limit you
for tibia - it's the calf

Your journey will go a lot smoother if you come in super loose in those muscle groups
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on May 13, 2020, 03:49:25 PM
COVID has got me back on this forum a bit too lol. Amazing outcome and very happy for you bro. Your original femur diary was one of the first I read and inspired me to move forward with this crazy but rewarding part of my life- glad to have crossed paths on our journeys.

100% man, some good times at the Homewood Suites lmao
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: Movie on May 13, 2020, 10:29:22 PM
dope to hear your walking is back to normal cj! I must've missed your update
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: dreamBig on May 15, 2020, 02:05:50 AM
hi superusercj1, glad that you are doing great. I have a question regarding the sequence. You and myEvolution did both femur and tibia, do you think it would be better to achieve max height in tibia if you did tibia first? Since most people might achieve 8cm for femur, but not so many people can go past 6cm in tibia.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: joonjang on July 26, 2020, 01:10:58 AM
Hi cj

Your diary makes me want to have the surgery even more! 

Im thinking about getting Stryde on tibia at Lee’s institution early next year.
But some people told me about the downfalls of having LL on tibia:
1. Calf gets so large to the point where you have to choose your jeans based off your calf size (pretty much limited to ‘dad jeans’ that can cover the huge calves). They had PRECISE before Stryde was available so Im guessing if Stryde has any advantage in that sense.

2. Constant knee pain

What are your thoughts slash personal experience?

Thanks Cj
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: suk1hong on October 28, 2020, 05:34:51 PM
How's it going? How thick is your calves? Did you extend both thighs and calves?
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: Dreamer57 on January 28, 2021, 09:29:49 PM
Hey man....pls update...
We are missing you

How's life...how's are holding up in these covid times...

How r your physical activities....


Looking forward to here from you

Hope you are great

Best luck
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: Vibes on January 29, 2021, 01:22:30 AM
Hey man....pls update...
We are missing you

How's life...how's are holding up in these covid times...

How r your physical activities....


Looking forward to here from you

Hope you are great

Best luck

Agreed, it would be awesome to get any sort of update from you OP! But I know you're out there enjoying your new height to the fullest I'm sure  8)
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on March 08, 2021, 10:21:46 PM
Hey everyone,

Coming on here to update.

I am now literally 5 hours post bilateral tibia and femur removal.  Before I get into that, I want to reflect a bit.

I started my LL journey 2 years ago starting with my femurs and then followed by tibias a year later.

The entire experience was more than just gaining height, it’s one of personal growth and maturity.  I feel strongly that I’m a different person mentally before and after the surgery - not
to mention the lifelong friends I made.  I no longer think about my height and my confidence level is through the roof.  Small things that used to bother or annoy me no longer does. My mind is at complete peace.  Before this LL journey, I remember at social gatherings, the day of the gathering would ultimately end that night about me thinking how short I was and how much it sucked.

Before the removal procedure today, from a walking and “normalized gait” wise perspective, my right leg was easily at 100% but my left leg was about 90%.  On the left side I felt tight in my gluteals which contributed to a slight limp when I over used it.  Right leg on the other hand felt completely normal.

I’m hoping that the left leg soreness is due to a screw from the rod sticking out and rubbing on the muscle, only time will tell. Regardless if it’s not, I know I’ll have to stretch my left leg a lot for it to catch up.

Now back to the removal.  I decided to finally schedule the removal for many reasons including free time in my schedule, the curiosity of whether or not rod removal would take away my left gluteal soreness, the thought of metal leaking into my blood, and last, how annoying it would be to enter through airport security and have it go off.  It made traveling with people who didn’t know I had this procedure look at me funny whenever they scanned my legs and it went off.

I had my pre op consult on 3/5/2021 and indeed it was found on X-ray that I had the bone thickening/corrosion of the rod issue that’s been a hot topic for the Stryde nail that ultimately led to its recall.  I was ensured by Dr. Robbins that this had no long term consequences but they’re pulling it because they don’t know what’s causing the bone to react this way. 

For me, I’m just super happy to finally get it out given that I’m a bit OCD when it comes to my health.

The removal process itself was as follow.

The night before mood wise was 70% excited that it’s finally going to be all over and 30% nervous because of the thought of going under surgery again.

Checked in at 6am, signed a bunch of paperwork, and the receptionist confirmed that I had someone taking care of me afterwards.  Mood wise now 95% relaxed and 5% nervous, likely because it’s finally hitting me and me remember that this procedure is a lot less invasive, and a same day procedure in that I am literally going to walk out of the center without any aid.

7:30am I’m in pre op now, all shaved and changed into a gown.  They said I’d be in about 30 more minutes so she gave me a little bit of versed to get me relaxed.  Boy does this medication hit fast and it’s amazing. Wished I could get more. I think I got 0.5mg

7:45 - looks like it’s show time for me and the nurse came back and hit me with the rest of 1.5mg. I’m on cloud 9 :)

5:00pm - back at hotel. So happy it’s all over!!! I woke up around 1-2pm.  The pain is no joke. My tibia pain is fine but my femurs / hip incision sites is super painful. I needed crutches to actually leave and have them with me. I don’t know how others did this without crutches the first day. I’ve been in bed since getting back to hotel.  It’s really sore type of pain more than anything else. I think it’ll be 2-3 days before I feel comfortable being alone. Definitely have someone be there to help you!!  Call me dramatic but I asked for a urinal bottle so I don’t have to get up to go to the bathroom 😅 anyways so happy the journey is coming to an end ready to start my next chapter or heavily working out, getting scars removed, and getting in the best shape of my life.

More updates soon as I recover.

I want to also take a moment to thank this forum. Couldn’t have known about this procedure without this forum or even considered doing it without others diaries. I hope my diary will help someone else in a similar situation. And also, one recommendation, I had a really Positive experience with Dr. Paley and Robbins and team. If you can afford it, pay the premium to be safe.  Even during the removal process they told me about all the issues that they encountered unique to stryde and that they aren’t concerned if it did occur.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on March 08, 2021, 10:23:28 PM
Pls ignore all typos doing this in my iPhone + on meds. Too lazy to fix :p
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: Dreamer57 on March 08, 2021, 11:53:38 PM
Hey man, missed your updates! So finally the nails are out! This calls for beginning of a new chapter in your life! Congratulations!!!

A few questions...

Before the nail removal... How would your rate your gait...

Was it normal enough that if we cross paths I wouldn't recognise that's something's odd with u?


How was your atheltic performance? Were you running like before? If not, how would you describe your run?
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: BelowTheMean on March 09, 2021, 12:00:21 AM
Welcome back and congrats on getting your nails out! I guess both you and MyEvo did this while I was taking a break from the forum so I missed your journals entirely. It must have been cool to have a buddy to lengthen with though :D
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on March 09, 2021, 06:23:36 PM
Hey man, missed your updates! So finally the nails are out! This calls for beginning of a new chapter in your life! Congratulations!!!

A few questions...

Before the nail removal... How would your rate your gait...

* right leg - 10/10 always , was perfect
* left leg - 8/10. Would be 10/10 at times but usually 8/10 when a tight/soreness kicked in. The discomfort would be located at the upper portion of my gluteals. Dr. Robbins thinks it’s due to tightness still - to be clear ive stretched zero ;)

Was it normal enough that if we cross paths I wouldn't recognise that's something's odd with u?
No, you could see me limp slightly


How was your atheltic performance? Were you running like before? If not, how would you describe your run?

I started to run more over the last couple months, when I started I ran funny and would
Put my abilities at 40% where it was before. After 2 months of running it was closer to 80%.

All in all, I think I Would be completely different if I stretched and exercised. Which I now plan to do, now that the rods are fully out

Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on March 09, 2021, 06:25:26 PM
Welcome back and congrats on getting your nails out! I guess both you and MyEvo did this while I was taking a break from the forum so I missed your journals entirely. It must have been cool to have a buddy to lengthen with though :D

Yeah man, honestly I was pretty happy after femur and wasn’t going to get tibias done. But myevolution doing it convinced me to do it - one of those it’s now or never because that support system is huge for this process and also made the journey that much more fun - from late night video games to waking up in same room with excruciating pain lol
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on March 09, 2021, 06:31:50 PM
Ok POD 1 update:

Pain is located mainly in my knee and upper hips on both sides.  Today the pain is more maneagable.  Yesterday it was 9/10 and today it’s 5/10.  Today I was also able to work slowly with crutches which is huge over yesterday.

I’m hopeful that this trend continues, if so, I’ll be walking fairly well by Friday.

Word of advice, definitely take off at least a week for this.  Not sure how others recovered so fast but the first 2 days has been pretty tough!

Having said this, super super excited that rods are out. The excitement is continuing to kick in that this journey is finally over.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: Serilium on March 09, 2021, 07:13:32 PM
Hey superusercj1!
Long time lurker, remember reading your diary a year ago along with MyEvo's. Just wanted to register and tell you thanks and that I am so glad that you are doing good.
Your new life has started. Happy the nails are out!

Cheers. I am going to go to Paley's next year and do the exact same thing you are doing, femurs and tibias.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on March 09, 2021, 07:57:58 PM
Hey superusercj1!
Long time lurker, remember reading your diary a year ago along with MyEvo's. Just wanted to register and tell you thanks and that I am so glad that you are doing good.
Your new life has started. Happy the nails are out!

Cheers. I am going to go to Paley's next year and do the exact same thing you are doing, femurs and tibias.

Awesome!

My recommendations would be:

1) do tibias first
2) then 1 year later do femurs AND remove tibias at same time

I think above will give you maximal chance of getting most cm

Reason for tibia first is because tibia’s a lot more harder to lengthen but for me it was also first to recover real fast (compared to femur)

So by doing tibia first you won’t have tightness from the femur holding you back, and once you reach your target for tibia, your tightness will loosen up real fast since it’s your calf muscle that you naturally stretch with walking.  This makes it so that when you do your femurs that previously lengthening your tibia won’t hold you back as much as the other way around.

Good luck !!
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on March 11, 2021, 01:14:27 PM
Ok POD 3:

Feeling incredibly better. Pain down to 4/10.

I can now ambulated without aid but there’s definitely hip sway.  Still
prefer to use crutches to get around a little faster.  I suspect that by Saturday I’ll feel
comfortable ambulatory without aid all together.

Otherwise have experience zero complications, keeping my wound moist with aquaphore everyday and cleaning it.

Super happy, the journey is coming to an end. Can’t wait to start some intense gym training.  Will continue to keep everyone posted.
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: TheAlchemist on March 11, 2021, 02:45:19 PM
So glad to see you getting close to finishing your journey man, big congrats to you! I remember reading both your diary and myevo's diary back in 2018 and for the first time thinking "wow this is real, this is actually possible" and now here I am 2.5 years later having done it myself with my life completley transformed for the better. Amazing meeting you in WPB too! Thank you for sharing your experience with all of us - I probably wouldn't have had the courage to have done this without these early Stryde diaries - you've changed lives!
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: Movie on March 11, 2021, 08:22:31 PM
Congrats CJ! will stay posted for your next updates, please do update! thanks bossman
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on March 14, 2021, 03:51:44 PM
So glad to see you getting close to finishing your journey man, big congrats to you! I remember reading both your diary and myevo's diary back in 2018 and for the first time thinking "wow this is real, this is actually possible" and now here I am 2.5 years later having done it myself with my life completley transformed for the better. Amazing meeting you in WPB too! Thank you for sharing your experience with all of us - I probably wouldn't have had the courage to have done this without these early Stryde diaries - you've changed lives!

Yo man! Haha yeah, good times at the Homewood suites. Was awesome meeting you and making the journey that much more fun.

Hope you’re recovering well !
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on March 14, 2021, 03:53:19 PM
Congrats CJ! will stay posted for your next updates, please do update! thanks bossman

Thanks Movie! Read all of your blog and it has been awesome learning about your experience.

What a long, painful, but rewarding journey
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on March 14, 2021, 03:58:22 PM
Post Op Day (POD): 6

Can walk much much better. The lateral sway is a lot less but still present. Pain level is about 3/10.  The aquaphore I’m using for my wounds seems to be giving me a rash so going to switch over to vaseline today.

Pain located in area of both ankles where the 3 screws were at, at the knee where the tibia insertion point was, and at both lateral thigh/hips where the femoral insertion point was.

Everyday feels so much better and more stoked that this is finally over. Hopefully I can get back to the gym and doing light workouts starting this week.

Oh btw, the left gluteal pain is completely gone. But still too early to tell since I’m still tight and this other pain and what’s going on may be masking it, but so far so good!
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: superusercj1 on March 21, 2021, 01:47:03 AM
Hey guys!

So today Saturday will be post op day 12.

I’m feeling at 90%, literally exponentially improving.  I think I’m going to be back to walking normally by next weekend for sure.

All pain in my gluteals that was bothering me before the removal has not returned as well. Super happy.

For those about to get rod removal, here’s the recap:

Days 0-2 -> brutal. Felt like the first surgery. Can barely move legs, will need aide to help you.
Days 2-4 -> you can now walk with crutches, but still pain
Days 5-7 -> you can now ditch the crutches/can, can walk but not fast
Day 7 and on -> exponential increase in strength heading back to normal, everyday you’re so much better

Good luck everyone on this journey!  I am going to try my best to check back in every now and then but for me, this is officially the end of my journey. 🙏🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: FormerKidd on March 21, 2021, 04:27:46 AM
Hey guys!

So today Saturday will be post op day 12.

I’m feeling at 90%, literally exponentially improving.  I think I’m going to be back to walking normally by next weekend for sure.

All pain in my gluteals that was bothering me before the removal has not returned as well. Super happy.

For those about to get rod removal, here’s the recap:

Days 0-2 -> brutal. Felt like the first surgery. Can barely move legs, will need aide to help you.
Days 2-4 -> you can now walk with crutches, but still pain
Days 5-7 -> you can now ditch the crutches/can, can walk but not fast
Day 7 and on -> exponential increase in strength heading back to normal, everyday you’re so much better

Good luck everyone on this journey!  I am going to try my best to check back in every now and then but for me, this is officially the end of my journey. 🙏🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼

This is interesting.  Thanks for the update -- I need to get my rods removed, too.  Any advice for those planning a removal?

(Did they give you a new set of gear, btw?  I don't know if I still have my crutches.)
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: Dreamer57 on March 26, 2021, 04:07:09 PM
  man.....you are literally living my dream....!!!
Congratulations man!!! I wish you all the best for recovery....hope you start getting atheltic af soon...


Did you do femurs only? Or tibias too?
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: itseasy on March 31, 2021, 09:59:54 AM
...bump
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: Serilium on April 08, 2021, 05:53:39 PM
congrats cj
Title: Re: New Stryde Diary 2018 - with Dr. Paley
Post by: Dreamer57 on May 19, 2021, 09:25:36 PM
Hey mannn.....any updates!

Hope you are doing great!