Limb Lengthening Forum

I turned 40 this year, am female and am of SE Asian desent, living in the U.K, and before I came across your journal, was strongly considering Guichet as an option for CLL.  Thank you so much for your journal, as without it I might have gone ahead with it!

I wouldn't let 1 bad case completely cancel Guichet out, if it did then there wouldn't be a single CLL doctor for you!

Agreed on all fronts. While I don't disapprove of women doing LL, I was just trying to state that the increased risks (women seem to have an easier time lengthening but a harder time with bone regeneration/recovery) aren't as worth it. Yes, of course a woman's short stature may have an impact on her life, if people are calling her short/cute, I can see how that would be annoying. Especially when it comes to the workplace.

I know women think that "men just do LL so they can have more dating options," and while that's certainly not untrue, as I said, it has to do with what society expects men to be. A man should be TALL, first and foremost, THEN good looking, in shape, financially successful, confident (which depends greatly on these factors to begin with), etc. Many people, women and men alike, do not see short men as "real men," and let me tell you, as a man, there is no greater pain than having your masculinity taken away from you. There's also more pressure for us, on a very primal level, to go out there and "land" a woman. I understand we're in 2018 and many women don't think these basic "rules" still apply, but as much as you might deny it, they do. Women still want men to dominate (be more masculine then them in all ways, aka "be the man in the relationship") them physically (not financially, women can and should make as much as we do, and I applaud them for that!), and height is a huge factor in this. Imagine being a very short man with few dating options, unable to afford LL - there's a greater likelihood this man will never find a woman. So you might say "men do LL just to get women," but it's a lot deeper than that.

Yes, as a short woman, you might get jabs from family and friends and in the workplace, and that I'm sure sucks. I didn't mean to downplay that. And of course, it has to do with your own self image too. But at least your womanhood or attractiveness (in most cases, unless the man in question really likes tall women, which in my opinion most men don't care about womens' height that much) or ability to attract a life partner isn't nearly as greatly reduced.

Well said.

Hey Yellow, I just read through your updates and am glad to hear you are doing well!

I very rarely get knee pain anymore, and when I do, it's very manageable. Only seem to get it when I run, so I don't run very often (I get my cardio from intense flow yoga, stairmaster, elliptical, etc.). And sometimes when I travel in airplanes, I get right leg pain. Dr. R believes removing the nails will help, so I'm doing that this fall. A bit nervous about that and not keen on having new scars, but whatever, I will deal.

Quick question- do you know if insurance will cover some of the cost of removal with Dr. R or did you ask him about it?

Because if men would describe the ideal women's body, the first trait would be fit.
If women would do the same on men's body, the first they would say is tall. And furthermore, many men would prefer a short woman over a tall one while almost no woman would prefer a short man over a tall one.
This is no misogynistic, this is the truth.
Thats why women get crazy if they get 1-2 kilos while men simply don't care unless they become really obese. Because being thin is not important for men while for women is the most important thing.

That said, I don't disapprove any short woman to get LL but no, women who are near average and more (5.3ft and up) and want LL is like 6+ft weirdos men who want LL. In both cases, LL won't improve their life and the risks they take are for nothing.

Agreed on all fronts. While I don't disapprove of women doing LL, I was just trying to state that the increased risks (women seem to have an easier time lengthening but a harder time with bone regeneration/recovery) aren't as worth it. Yes, of course a woman's short stature may have an impact on her life, if people are calling her short/cute, I can see how that would be annoying. Especially when it comes to the workplace.

I know women think that "men just do LL so they can have more dating options," and while that's certainly not untrue, as I said, it has to do with what society expects men to be. A man should be TALL, first and foremost, THEN good looking, in shape, financially successful, confident (which depends greatly on these factors to begin with), etc. Many people, women and men alike, do not see short men as "real men," and let me tell you, as a man, there is no greater pain than having your masculinity taken away from you. There's also more pressure for us, on a very primal level, to go out there and "land" a woman. I understand we're in 2018 and many women don't think these basic "rules" still apply, but as much as you might deny it, they do. Women still want men to dominate (be more masculine then them in all ways, aka "be the man in the relationship") them physically (not financially, women can and should make as much as we do, and I applaud them for that!), and height is a huge factor in this. Imagine being a very short man with few dating options, unable to afford LL - there's a greater likelihood this man will never find a woman. So you might say "men do LL just to get women," but it's a lot deeper than that.

Yes, as a short woman, you might get jabs from family and friends and in the workplace, and that I'm sure sucks. I didn't mean to downplay that. And of course, it has to do with your own self image too. But at least your womanhood or attractiveness (in most cases, unless the man in question really likes tall women, which in my opinion most men don't care about womens' height that much) or ability to attract a life partner isn't nearly as greatly reduced.

He got quite offended on this forum so probably its better for hom to not write there. Write to him priv. He responds often.

Thank you
please still write this everyday how it is going for you. I am very interested for this @Constantine

POD 124

Hello.
My lengthened amount reached 6 cm 3 days ago.
The lengthening phase was very long, I got tired.

The lengthened amount by ERC and the length in the x-ray inspection were identical.
PRECICE is very precise.

Now I am in the consolidation phase.
My doctor said that the duration would be around six months.
Probably I'll undergo an operation of a right tibia in winter.

I'll report if there is any progress.

Regards,
key

Hi Unicorn,

I have been reading your journal from beginning to end over the last couple of weeks and what a rollercoaster you have been on!

 I turned 40 this year, am female and am of SE Asian desent, living in the U.K, and before I came across your journal, was strongly considering Guichet as an option for CLL.  Thank you so much for your journal, as without it I might have gone ahead with it!

Please stay strong and and positive as there will be an after and I believe for you, it will be a great after. I am so glad to hear that you have a little callus formation on one side, hopefully this will improve after bone graft.

Reading through Doctor Donghoon’s blog, it seems he uses stem cell to help with poor bone formation? Is this something that could possibly help you?He is my strongest option at the moment because of this and Also because I read he is an artist when it comes to cuts/scars.

Wishing you you miraculous recovery and sending you much love 💕.

Hi Normy,

Have been reading your journal with great interest as I myself am originally Vietnamese and would love to do CLL but a bit too scared to at the moment. I am glad that your surgery thus far has gone pretty smoothly and I wish you an easy (as poss) consolidation phase.

I would love to know more about your scars, you mentioned your doctor was doing a cosmetic procedure to reduce the appearance at one point? Would love to know how that worked out as being female that would be really important to me.

Thanks.

Hello Constantine.  Hope you're well also and that lengthening continues to progress without issue.  I've been following your diary as well with Dr. Betz.

I am feeling better day by day now.  I was still very tight the first 5-6 days after my last lengthening, but now my legs have loosened up,  my knees don't hurt anymore. Luckily I didn't deal with wide legs or much duckass.  I have a little bit of duckass due to my right leg (hamstring) is still a little tight, but it's hardly noticeable.  My PT says it will be gone by the time I walk.

How many CM are you at now?

Nice to hear that it is going well for you. You’re so lucky that you don’t have wide legs and duckass:)
Keep us updated .

I am 6cm now .