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Re: Lengthening with Dr Bagirov in Moscow (9th December surgery date)
« Reply #62 on: December 12, 2014, 12:49:21 PM »

apparently that's the caloric demand when a single long bone is broken
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Re: Lengthening with Dr Bagirov in Moscow (9th December surgery date)
« Reply #63 on: December 12, 2014, 12:54:57 PM »

Make sure those calories are fruits/vegetables mostly
« Last Edit: December 12, 2014, 02:16:54 PM by Hallijah »
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Re: Lengthening with Dr Bagirov in Moscow (9th December surgery date)
« Reply #64 on: December 12, 2014, 01:47:21 PM »

I lengthened 0.25 mm today. I can already feel the strain oh my god. Haha!

It feels like growing pains! Not really pain, just discomfort.

Jesus. I hope it does not get worse later. But my ROM is more limited.

How were your first days, people?
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Re: Lengthening with Dr Bagirov in Moscow (9th December surgery date)
« Reply #65 on: December 12, 2014, 06:26:02 PM »

Did some PT and walked.

Now the pain is creeping in surely.

Trying to get some oral painkillers.

Otherwise, just endure.

Sigh I can smell very strong cigarette smoke...... This is so bad for healing. Who's smoking...!

I don't know why is smoking allowed in hospital. It is VERY VERY BAD!
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Re: Lengthening with Dr Bagirov in Moscow (9th December surgery date)
« Reply #66 on: December 12, 2014, 06:44:07 PM »

Did some PT and walked.

Now the pain is creeping in surely.

Trying to get some oral painkillers.

Otherwise, just endure.

Sigh I can smell very strong cigarette smoke...... This is so bad for healing. Who's smoking...!
PT alone?
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Re: Lengthening with Dr Bagirov in Moscow (9th December surgery date)
« Reply #67 on: December 12, 2014, 06:49:32 PM »

Yes on the bed.
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Re: Lengthening with Dr Bagirov in Moscow (9th December surgery date)
« Reply #68 on: December 12, 2014, 08:18:43 PM »

Sigh, I told the nurses that smoking will  impede wound healing.

And they (or the patients) are smoking again.

This is really bad.
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Re: Lengthening with Dr Bagirov in Moscow (9th December surgery date)
« Reply #69 on: December 12, 2014, 08:38:26 PM »

Sigh, I told the nurses that smoking will  impede wound healing.

And they (or the patients) are smoking again.

This is really bad.
Everyone smokes and drinks in Russia don't be shocked if they blow it on your face for asking or your leg lol
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Re: Lengthening with Dr Bagirov in Moscow (9th December surgery date)
« Reply #70 on: December 12, 2014, 08:52:37 PM »

Everyone smokes and drinks in Russia don't be shocked if they blow it on your face for asking or your leg lol

but its a hospital!

and there are trauma victims.

this is the first night, that someone smoked.

I am so shocked.

when I was in the army, yes, they do secretly smoke, but probably in the toilet.

the patients never smell it.
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Re: Lengthening with Dr Bagirov in Moscow (9th December surgery date)
« Reply #71 on: December 12, 2014, 08:56:10 PM »

You were in the Army?
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Re: Lengthening with Dr Bagirov in Moscow (9th December surgery date)
« Reply #72 on: December 12, 2014, 09:25:35 PM »

Hi itsmylife.
VERY VERY good luck with your journey. I have my surgery with doctor salameh 2 on february in Frankfurt, the frames are similar to yours.
Cheers paco.
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Re: Lengthening with Dr Bagirov in Moscow (9th December surgery date)
« Reply #73 on: December 12, 2014, 09:46:37 PM »

You were in the Army?

Yup. It's not allowed to smoke in the army except in smoke-boxes.
My 0.25 mm tensionsal pain is more or less gone now.
Physio is pretty tough u gotta move the stiff joints and coupled with the heavy apparatus
I think having ample thigh muscle and upper arm muscles are v v important else it's gonna be more painful
I'm working out with 2 kilo dumbbells so I hope I don't lose lean muscle mass.
(I don't bulk)
So basically I lengthened at day four, but tomorrow will be my big day, 1 mm!!
No injection painkillers today.
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Re: Lengthening with Dr Bagirov in Moscow (9th December surgery date)
« Reply #74 on: December 12, 2014, 09:47:52 PM »

Hi itsmylife.
VERY VERY good luck with your journey. I have my surgery with doctor salameh 2 on february in Frankfurt, the frames are similar to yours.
Cheers paco.

Best of luck.
As doctor fahri said u just have a fighting attitude it's good !
U will scream and shout and curse.
I wonder if they allow us to buy the injectable painkillers . I can inject myself
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Re: Lengthening with Dr Bagirov in Moscow (9th December surgery date)
« Reply #75 on: December 13, 2014, 12:08:21 AM »

Pain escalating to 6/10. Can't sleep at all. Getting injection from the nurse.
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Re: Lengthening with Dr Bagirov in Moscow (9th December surgery date)
« Reply #76 on: December 13, 2014, 11:43:52 AM »

I took some atarax last night to sleep. couldn't sleep with the discomfort.

I slept like a baby. But was woken up by nurses and doctors in the morning. I kept sleeping. And the nurse scolded me not to sleep! Haha!

lunch is here and its, as usual, bland and weird-tasting. Quick tip: Ask for mayo and it will taste so much better!! :D

hospital food does taste worse and worse the longer you stay here. and I have been here for already 6 days!

today I lengthen 1 mm, for five days. and then doctor suggests to decrease to 0.75 mm a day until I leave Russia.

i hope tonight i can get more burger king when gula is here.. she can go out to buy food for us :) actually once you taste fast food, the more you will dislike the hospital food. can't they make it better tasting or less Russian, whatever it is :(

I need some more fruits too!

So at the end of today it will be 1.25 mm. I used to take glucosamine, and am still doing so, it helps me by 3-5 mm. I am SO HAPPY that if nothing bad happens (touch wood) I will be already more than 5 mm taller permanently. That's like much better than glucosamine!

I am very bullish currently of being able to lengthen at least 5 cm. Yes, once you start the process, you start to downwards revise your targets. I used to think that I wanna do 8 cm +. But now, I might downwards revise to 7-8 cm, or maybe less. I don
t know. Considering all the questions with athletic ability, it makes me wanna do less also. But the main factor is the entire drawn-out process.

Whatever it is, I am here to win, and I will win. I will aim for 8 cm if my body can take it. My main question is if my body cannot take it, and I push realliy hard with pharmaceutical help and sheer willpower to 8 cm, will it be bad for athletic ability, ie, i can  never recover 100%?

Dr Fahkri says that I can recover athletic ability if I do PT and stretch and lengthen at 0.6 mm a day. We shall see. He's pretty bullish that as long as you follow instructions, you can still play basketball.

Whatever it is, I hope my diary is of help. When I was lengthening I read many diaries to know what to expect. in terms of pain, what to do, how i do compare to others, etc. It does help to give a clearer picture of the process. And makes u less worried (eg, is my situation now abnormal, or is this normal response).

The doctor is out of town for some time. For a few days. He is back on Wednesday. i don't know if i shd leave this hospital early. But we shall c, i think it will depend on my progress.
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Re: Lengthening with Dr Bagirov in Moscow (9th December surgery date)
« Reply #77 on: December 13, 2014, 11:45:29 AM »

that is a good idea..

but dr fahri says fast food is fine... hes ok with it
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Re: Lengthening with Dr Bagirov in Moscow (9th December surgery date)
« Reply #78 on: December 13, 2014, 01:47:29 PM »

I think lengthening more than 6cm in tibias is bad idea.
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Re: Lengthening with Dr Bagirov in Moscow (9th December surgery date)
« Reply #79 on: December 13, 2014, 02:12:07 PM »

I think lengthening more than 6cm in tibias is bad idea.

dr says up to 8 cm is OK

above 8 cm it is high danger zone

max he did is 12 cm. but he now only does 10 cm.

my dorsiflexion now is still 20 degrees

I've lengthened 0.75 mm.
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Re: Lengthening with Dr Bagirov in Moscow (9th December surgery date)
« Reply #80 on: December 13, 2014, 02:19:18 PM »

The most doctor say in tibias maximun 5cm, if you want to recovery your athletic ability.
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Re: Lengthening with Dr Bagirov in Moscow (9th December surgery date)
« Reply #81 on: December 13, 2014, 02:22:31 PM »

The most doctor say in tibias maximun 5cm, if you want to recovery your athletic ability.

 I will decide when I Reach 5-6 cm.

If I am doing well I will go for 8 cm.

Otherwise I will revise downwards to 6-7 cm.
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Re: Lengthening with Dr Bagirov in Moscow (9th December surgery date)
« Reply #82 on: December 13, 2014, 02:42:58 PM »

Yes you can decide when you reach 6cm, but most people have problem around this goal. When they pass more than 5 cm, lengthening is more difficult.
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Re: Lengthening with Dr Bagirov in Moscow (9th December surgery date)
« Reply #83 on: December 13, 2014, 02:43:40 PM »

MANAGED TO WALK WITHOUT WALKERS (distraction now 0.75mm)


RGKey made me wanna try it:
Technically he could walk without crutches right after few days post op. But the pain plus the muscle weekneess and fear to fall will not allow it. The ilizarov frames support around 3 or 4 times your body weight. Is pretty much as if you were walking with healthy normal bones. People do your researches!))

yes you can walk without walkers!:) there is very little pain. you just need to balance yourself!!! but the nurse told me not allowed. I am now checking with dr fakhri if walking without walkers is bad for you.
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Re: Lengthening with Dr Bagirov in Moscow (9th December surgery date)
« Reply #84 on: December 13, 2014, 02:49:40 PM »

Can I walk outside of hospital: yes
Healing is better if 0.6mm a day. can lengthen at any rate, but soft tissue problems.
X-ray will be done before leaving Moscow/CT scan
i have weird creaking sounds in my bones when i move. is this normal? can something be loose inside? this is normal.
and above my right knee, sometimes there is muscle twitching?  normal.
based on my x-rays, my growth plates are closed? because i grew about 1-2 cm in the last few years. => he asked my age, and said closed.
Abdominal crunches can be done in bed.
the doctors say to eat much more than normal. Do I really have to eat 6000 calories a day? Can I eat less? Worried about getting fat! > I'm not fat and calories will go to healing.
Exercise of back muscle more important, as lengthening will cause posture changes, so we need build up back muscle.
walk 10 minutes many times  a day when lengthening.
no need equal timing before 0.25 mm lengthenings.
no elevation of leg needed.
no cold compress needed.
pin site pain yesterday normal
bruises normal
must endure
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Re: Lengthening with Dr Bagirov in Moscow (9th December surgery date)
« Reply #85 on: December 13, 2014, 03:47:42 PM »

what do you mean back muscle needs to be built up??? don't you think your over thinking this?
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Re: Lengthening with Dr Bagirov in Moscow (9th December surgery date)
« Reply #86 on: December 13, 2014, 04:14:14 PM »

doctor said, not my words
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Re: Lengthening with Dr Bagirov in Moscow (9th December surgery date)
« Reply #87 on: December 13, 2014, 05:48:12 PM »

Wide arm pull ups Chin ups are good the problem is your thing adds weight plus you have to realize that chin ups when you come off the bar if your short also hurts your ankles since most bars aren't really short people friendly like 8 feet off the ground ftl.
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Re: Lengthening with Dr Bagirov in Moscow (9th December surgery date)
« Reply #88 on: December 13, 2014, 06:03:23 PM »

Wide arm pull ups Chin ups are good the problem is your thing adds weight plus you have to realize that chin ups when you come off the bar if your short also hurts your ankles since most bars aren't really short people friendly like 8 feet off the ground ftl.

no no he just says do something like the cobra (yoga pose), from what I saw him demonstrate

he says with lengthening there will be a slouch (ie, back muscles weaken, and posture is hunched)
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Re: Lengthening with Dr Bagirov in Moscow (9th December surgery date)
« Reply #89 on: December 13, 2014, 06:41:53 PM »

Lengthened 1 mm in total (from yesterday's 0.25 mm)
Later I have to lengthen another 0.25 mm.
I blame this pain on myself.
Slept late and woke up at 12 plus. So I have to lengthen every 3 hourly, which was fine, until just now, where one can feel some pain. Now its 10.30 PM.
I will probably have to lengthen again at about 12 midnight. (so that would be 1 mm today!)
Is it normal to feel more strain as you lengthen more into the day?  :( :( :(
Its quite bad! My leg feels like its breaking into two.
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Re: Lengthening with Dr Bagirov in Moscow (9th December surgery date)
« Reply #90 on: December 13, 2014, 07:33:31 PM »

Dr has replied.

I can walk without crutches.

Now PO day 5.

He says better to walk without crutches...

Did anyone also walk without crutches at PO Day 5? I walk slowly and gingerly but more or less I can, walk quite fast, to the toilet and back
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Re: Lengthening with Dr Bagirov in Moscow (9th December surgery date)
« Reply #91 on: December 13, 2014, 08:53:06 PM »

Can the mod change my surgery date: it is actually 8th dec
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Re: Lengthening with Dr Bagirov in Moscow (9th December surgery date)
« Reply #92 on: December 13, 2014, 09:20:31 PM »

UPDATE: heres my video of walking, I only lengthened 1.25 mm. Now I lengthen another 0.25 mm.
I can walk twice that distance. Just the room is small  :-\
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