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5'11"

6'

6'1"

Shorter than 5'11"

Taller than 6'1"

[ItsMyLife]

I don t see how the ayi graph works, any idea??

Supremely intelligent comments, he is back.

[Smallguy]

Urrgghh! What the fruck guys? Why do we need such a huge dating pool? Do you have enough time to date each and every one of the millions of girls in a 6' 2" man's dating pool?

I just want one girl at a time please lol. I don't need tens of millions in this "dating pool".


I'm sorry, but I'm just getting sick of this fantasy idea of a "HUGE DATING POOL".

Yeah, I was just reading the chart. The chart is obviously flawed as it pinpoints to a specific height and not to a range. Women don't make selections that way. They usually have cutoffs like I would only date guys between 5'8 to 6'2, etc. Just as men don't specifically ask women to be exactly 120lb and no more no less. We usually don't want to be over 200lb or under 90lb.

And like Itsmylife mentioned, the data could be distorted due to men's tendency to cheat and exaggerate their true height so they can get more replies.

And you are right.. unless the guy is a sex fiend and have a lot of time on hand, I don't see how you can't possibly be happy with one girlfriend as a time. Unless you are outright undesirable, I don't see how hard it is to find a girlfriend, provided you have adequate social skill and don't come off as a hazard to someone's safety.

yeap but probably since straight guys inflate their heights, 6'2 on a dating app might well be 6'1 or 6'. So we can bring this data to co-relate to the other data that we have.

Yeah, I too round up my height to 5'10 on some dating website. And this is when I measure myself barefooted. But there is undoubtedly people who measure their height with shoes and lifts (like most Hong Kong celebrities). I can also imagine some desperate soul on dating website to trying to exaggerate his height 2-3 inches in order to get more replies from girls.

I don t see how the ayi graph works, any idea??

sarcasm.

[ReadRothbard]

I'm right with you Yellow. The idea of a girl setting a minimum height filter on a dating site at 6' makes me cringe at the thought  of such shallow girl, and I would never want to encounter or talk to that type of person. I also would want a girl who falls for my personality.

I can only understand a girl doing that if the girl is very tall herself.

Also, The chart posted is very telling for two reasons.

1. TALL is NOT a huge advantage, otherwise the percentage would have jumped more at 6' plus

2. 5' 7" and up seems like the place to be, but even the difference between 5' 5" and 6' 2" in absolute percentage terms is not that huge. 5' 5" guys still have a chance!

I think it is honestly too flattering to call a girl who only dates men over 6'0 tall "shallow". Shallowness has to do with looks and appearance, while height is literally the size of your appearance and not appearance itself. That isn't what these women are doing. Turning down an otherwise good-looking, sexy, confident, etc. guy because he's short is like turning down a free Lamborghini because it isn't your favorite color. It is flat out brain damaged and retarded--not shallow.

[endomorphisme]

Supremely intelligent comments, he is back.

so could you explain why someone who is 6'2 is 57% more likely to get contacted?
A guy who is 5'5 or less will never get contactED by a woman even if she is ugly and fat, there is noway a guy this tall is attractive to girls, altleast on dating website.
So could you explain, how a very short man is 9% likely to get contactED and a talL man, only 14%?
The percentile are not absolute.

[YellowSpike]

so could you explain why someone who is 6'2 is 57% more likely to get contacted?
A guy who is 5'5 or less will never get contactED by a woman even if she is ugly and fat, there is noway a guy this tall is attractive to girls, altleast on dating website.
So could you explain, how a very short man is 9% likely to get contactED and a talL man, only 14%?
The percentile are not absolute.

I think most women filter for at least 5'8" and above. I did well with online dating, but I also lied and said I was 5'7" when I was 5'5.5" at best. I only got caught when three different 5'7" girls asked me out (one I think cared, the other two I dated for a while, and they were both hot).

Height is the number one thing women use to discriminate in terms of online dating. In real life, no one knows your exact height...but on "paper"/an online profile...below 5'8" looks really bad. Even 5'8" is borderline, but I was on all the dating sites over the years, and it seemed that most women (including attractive ones) are ok with around 5'8" and above.

[ReadRothbard]

I think most women filter for at least 5'8" and above. I did well with online dating, but I also lied and said I was 5'7" when I was 5'5.5" at best. I only got caught when three different 5'7" girls asked me out (one I think cared, the other two I dated for a while, and they were both hot).

Height is the number one thing women use to discriminate in terms of online dating. In real life, no one knows your exact height...but on "paper"/an online profile...below 5'8" looks really bad. Even 5'8" is borderline, but I was on all the dating sites over the years, and it seemed that most women (including attractive ones) are ok with around 5'8" and above.

The good thing is that if you do get "caught" for lying about two or so inches of height, you can always just say that you didn't really know you height and just estimated.

[Sean Connery]

Get a woman drunk and your height won't matter. Alcohol makes women throw their height standards out the window just like it makes men okay with banging fat chicks.

[YellowSpike]

Get a woman drunk and your height won't matter. Alcohol makes women throw their height standards out the window just like it makes men okay with banging fat chicks.

I think genuine confidence is the way to go. I was confident in every other aspect of myself except my stupid height, and girls (even after hooking up with them) would sometimes give me sh*t for it. And even though it was good-natured (and I acted like it didn't bother me), it annoyed me.

However, when it comes to online dating (which is where I would say most dating takes place nowadays), women can't gauge your "Confidence" and you can't get them drunk from reading your profile. So height would still be an issue. And women have it easier with dating (especially under 30 and attractive women), so if the want to wait around for someone who ticks all their boxes, they have more opportunities to do that than we do. Take two people of equal attractive "levels" and place them side-by-side. Except, one is a man, and one is a woman. Who do you think is getting more dating opportunities? The woman. Just the way it is, and another motivator for me to do LL (not for women per se, but I didn't want to feel like any attractive woman I dated had so much power over me).

[Sean Connery]

I think genuine confidence is the way to go. I was confident in every other aspect of myself except my stupid height, and girls (even after hooking up with them) would sometimes give me sh*t for it. And even though it was good-natured (and I acted like it didn't bother me), it annoyed me.

However, when it comes to online dating (which is where I would say most dating takes place nowadays), women can't gauge your "Confidence" and you can't get them drunk from reading your profile. So height would still be an issue. And women have it easier with dating (especially under 30 and attractive women), so if the want to wait around for someone who ticks all their boxes, they have more opportunities to do that than we do. Take two people of equal attractive "levels" and place them side-by-side. Except, one is a man, and one is a woman. Who do you think is getting more dating opportunities? The woman. Just the way it is, and another motivator for me to do LL (not for women per se, but I didn't want to feel like any attractive woman I dated had so much power over me).

That's the reason why women who sleep around a lot are called sluts and degraded and men who sleep around a lot are called smooth and admired by peers. It takes no effort for a woman to get laid but a lot of effort for guys to get laid, even conventionally attractive ones. 

Good points. I don't have a problem with lying about my height online though. Women automatically assume a guy is shorter than he lists anyway and boosting your height keeps you out of the block filter.

[YellowSpike]

That's the reason why women who sleep around a lot are called sluts and degraded and men who sleep around a lot are called smooth and admired by peers. It takes no effort for a woman to get laid but a lot of effort for guys to get laid, even conventionally attractive ones. 

Good points. I don't have a problem with lying about my height online though. Women automatically assume a guy is shorter than he lists anyway and boosting your height keeps you out of the block filter.

100% agree on the slut vs. stud observation. But I still think that women have it easier in dating (serious dating, as in, not just sleeping around) regardless. Most women won't make the first move, so even a relatively unattractive woman is going to get more offers to date than a relatively unattractive guy. Though this changes as women enter their 30s.

And lying about your height I agree with an inch or two is fine...but be careful with tallish women who may contact you. Because if they're the same height as you, they'll know you're lying, then know you're insecure, and we know that's an automatic turn off.

I think attraction goes something like this:

For Men, a Woman's Attraction Level = Looks x (Personality + Hobbies + Career + etc.). So, if a woman isn't attractive to the guy in question, attraction goes to 0. "Confidence" and career/money and such isn't important to me and most men I know. As long as I find a woman physically attractive and she's got a decent personality (from what I can gauge early on), she's a contender.

For Women, a Man's Attraction Level = Height + Confidence + Money/Status + Looks. Actually, I would almost argue (for a good amount of women out there) that Height is the "multiplier" in this equation (like Looks are in the one for how we find women attractive or not), so if you're not tall enough, a woman's attraction for you goes to 0. Although sometimes confidence and other stuff can sway women. With men, if there's no initial attraction, the girl stays in the friend zone, I'd say.

[ItsMyLife]

so could you explain why someone who is 6'2 is 57% more likely to get contacted?
A guy who is 5'5 or less will never get contactED by a woman even if she is ugly and fat, there is noway a guy this tall is attractive to girls, altleast on dating website.
So could you explain, how a very short man is 9% likely to get contactED and a talL man, only 14%?
The percentile are not absolute.

are you drunk?
I understand (we all do) taller is better, but  UNTIL a certain point. And that point is 6'2.

[ItsMyLife]

Looking at the poll, six feet and 6'1 are the most ideal height (as voted):

5'11"- 1 (4.2%)
6'- 10 (41.7%)
6'1"- 11 (45.8%)
Shorter than 5'11"- 0 (0%)
Taller than 6'1"- 2 (8.3%)

Only 2 voters voted for taller than 6'1 and I suspect they are endomorphisme and Meursault who are proponents of 6'5 (or thereabouts) being the ideal.

This is yet another evidence that the ideal lies somewhere between 6' and 6'1... 

UNLESS Meursault and endomorphisme and short7guy would want to claim that the girls AND boys are lying 

[w1988]

Height is the number one thing women use to discriminate in terms of online dating. In real life, no one knows your exact height...but on "paper"/an online profile...below 5'8" looks really bad. Even 5'8" is borderline, but I was on all the dating sites over the years, and it seemed that most women (including attractive ones) are ok with around 5'8" and above.

This is perfect example of why more emphasis gets put on height that it deserves.

Looks still trump everything in general but it is entirely subjective and impossible to grade on paper as you can't write the description or specify handsomeness or prettiness. Even if you say 'dark', there are many attractive people that are pale (and uglies that are dark) and even if you say 'sharp features' there are many attractive people that have round faces (and uglies with sharp features). With height you can say 'tall' and/or over 5'10" (or whatever) and everyone will understand you universally making it the easiest thing to use as a selection factor.

[YellowSpike]

This is perfect example of why more emphasis gets put on height that it deserves.

Looks still trump everything in general but it is entirely subjective and impossible to grade on paper as you can't write the description or specify handsomeness or prettiness. Even if you say 'dark', there are many attractive people that are pale (and uglies that are dark) and even if you say 'sharp features' there are many attractive people that have round faces (and uglies with sharp features). With height you can say 'tall' and/or over 5'10" (or whatever) and everyone will understand you universally making it the easiest thing to use as a selection factor.

I think a lot of it has to do with post-modern feminism. Women have pretty much just as much power as we now do (good for them!). However, as a result, many women have become pickier than ever. Trust me, I know...I've dated many different types of women...some feminist-types, some more traditional. But what I've noticed (with almost all of them) is that you have to dominate a woman as much as possible these days (earn more money than her, be physically stronger, and of course, be taller). Obviously there are many exceptions to this, and when you meet the right person, a lot of these "rules" go out the window. But modern women aren't like our mothers and grandmothers. It's a different world. Dating is very cutthroat and competitive.

I think looks trump everything so long as you're not too short (below 5'7"), depending on the woman's height.

[ReadRothbard]

I think a lot of it has to do with post-modern feminism. Women have pretty much just as much power as we now do (good for them!). However, as a result, many women have become pickier than ever. Trust me, I know...I've dated many different types of women...some feminist-types, some more traditional. But what I've noticed (with almost all of them) is that you have to dominate a woman as much as possible these days (earn more money than her, be physically stronger, and of course, be taller). Obviously there are many exceptions to this, and when you meet the right person, a lot of these "rules" go out the window. But modern women aren't like our mothers and grandmothers. It's a different world. Dating is very cutthroat and competitive.

I think looks trump everything so long as you're not too short (below 5'7"), depending on the woman's height.

If you are dominant in other ways, height doesn't matter. Women like height because they think it conveys dominance (even though it doesn't); so, to be "tall", you have to be dominant. Case in point: when you are walking through a crowd, do you move around people, or do you push them out of the way to make room for yourself? The dominant person makes  room for himself, while the weak, submissive person moves around the people.

[YellowSpike]

If you are dominant in other ways, height doesn't matter. Women like height because they think it conveys dominance (even though it doesn't); so, to be "tall", you have to be dominant. Case in point: when you are walking through a crowd, do you move around people, or do you push them out of the way to make room for yourself? The dominant person makes  room for himself, while the weak, submissive person moves around the people.

I agree. And I did notice that once I adjusted my confidence/way I carry myself, I did well with women despite my height. But it was still an uphill battle on the inside, and "confidence/acting dominant" doesn't work on all women. And it definitely doesn't work with online dating (where a lot of dating/hooking up takes place these days), because they can't gauge your "confidence" from your profile (although I did make one profile where I was blatantly a dck on POF, and I got lots of hookups from that. I gear my profiles to a target audience I suppose).

[ReadRothbard]

I agree. And I did notice that once I adjusted my confidence/way I carry myself, I did well with women despite my height. But it was still an uphill battle on the inside, and "confidence/acting dominant" doesn't work on all women. And it definitely doesn't work with online dating (where a lot of dating/hooking up takes place these days), because they can't gauge your "confidence" from your profile (although I did make one profile where I was blatantly a dck on POF, and I got lots of hookups from that. I gear my profiles to a target audience I suppose).

Well, yeah, being self-assured won't work with all women, but it will with a lot (just like being good-looking and rich won't work with all women). With online dating, you just put 10'0 as your height. If they ask you your height, say 10'0.

[YellowSpike]

Well, yeah, being self-assured won't work with all women, but it will with a lot (just like being good-looking and rich won't work with all women). With online dating, you just put 10'0 as your height. If they ask you your height, say 10'0.

hahaha! I actually think they cap off the height at something like 7'11" on Match.com if I'm remembering correctly.

[Beardedguy]

Women will always follow the crowds. Thats why they keep calling 6'0 as ideal hght. This makes me think that maybe they dont care too much about height as we men do (specially us, old forum  LL Forum BodyBF).Also, think about how most of the girls want to lose weight so bad. The skinnier the better they think as we got our the taller the better, which is actually true, but there's a limit.
Btw stop focusing just on girls when it comes about LL, this whole thread has come to "what would girls think about my new hght" and soon the whole forum.

[Bry]

Women will always follow the crowds. Thats why they keep calling 6'0 as ideal hght. This makes me think that maybe they dont care too much about height as we men do (specially us, old forum  LL Forum BodyBF).Also, think about how most of the girls want to lose weight so bad. The skinnier the better they think as we got our the taller the better, which is actually true, but there's a limit.
Btw stop focusing just on girls when it comes about LL, this whole thread has come to "what would girls think about my new hght" and soon the whole forum.

Agreed

[ItsMyLife]

Agreed

I agree. For everything, there is a limit. Too much, is not good.

Only 2 members chose above 6'1 as the ideal height, in fact. Out of 25 voters.

So the consensus between male and female is that either 6' or 6'1 is the ideal.

Case closed.

[Alittletooshort]

I guess many people here didn't vote for 'above 6'1' because they know, they are never going to acciev this height.
Anyways it's dumb to argue about things like beauty and aestethics. What is considered as ideal depends on many parameters and is a very personal thing. Doing a poll about that won't make any difference, I for instance consider 6'2 as ideal and there is no way a poll or article could change my mind. I would not waste my time and try to persuade others of my personal opinion. Just accept that different people have different opinions.

[ItsMyLife]

I guess many people here didn't vote for 'above 6'1' because they know, they are never going to acciev this height.
Anyways it's dumb to argue about things like beauty and aestethics. What is considered as ideal depends on many parameters and is a very personal thing. Doing a poll about that won't make any difference, I for instance consider 6'2 as ideal and there is no way a poll or article could change my mind. I would not waste my time and try to persuade others of my personal opinion. Just accept that different people have different opinions.

If a survey was done and women voted on the survey, then we can safely say that "x centimetres" is the ideal height if you are interested in women.

It seems from UK and USA surveys that x = 183 or lower.

If you are interested in men, its a different game altogether.

If you are doing surgery for yourself, then 6'2 is not a problem.

I could in theory reach 6'2 but I wouldn't want that. I want to look good in women's eyes and in my society, 6'2 stands out way too much as well.

[Alittletooshort]

I agree that it's something different in an asian country.
You'd look out of proportion as well, if your starting height was 174.
I prefere girls who are close to 180 so this might explain why 6'2 would be ideal for me.

[ItsMyLife]

I agree that it's something different in an asian country.
You'd look out of proportion as well, if your starting height was 174.

Yup my country is one of the tallest ones in asia - official average at 172+ but I think and my friends think its more like 175.
183 already is top 10 percent or so, and I am more than happy with that.
In fact, at 179 now I am pretty happy, and even if I cannot lengthen anymore, 179 is a good height in Asia.
I have long arms, and a long torso. The only limiting factor is wingspan (wingspan of 174). But if I do arm lengthening, then yes theoretically 188 is possible.

[Alittletooshort]

 @Itsmylife
I thought you left the forum, anyways, I'm glad you decided against it.

[endomorphisme]

Who is the other person who voted for 185 cm and up

[Alittletooshort]

Who is the other person who voted for 185 cm and up

I did
My status says my dream height is 187 but id rather be 188, I´m just realistic because I won´t get there anyways without compromising my athletic abilities too much.

[endomorphisme]

I did
My status says my dream height is 187 but id rather be 188, I´m just realistic because I won´t get there anyways without compromising my athletic abilities too much.

how tall are you at night?

[ItsMyLife]

I did
My status says my dream height is 187 but id rather be 188, I´m just realistic because I won´t get there anyways without compromising my athletic abilities too much.

188 is an ideal height to feel tall, but 183 is the most ideal height if your surgery is for women's sake

[ItsMyLife]

@Itsmylife
I thought you left the forum, anyways, I'm glad you decided against it.

im more or less only posting on this thread to clear up any distorted mindset
recently I was on a flight back to Singapore from Moscow, and a sizeable number were on transit to Australia (Brisbane).
Australians aren't very tall, mostly averaged 178-ish.

This corresponds with my data.
And yes, I was one of the taller ones on the flight
I was standing at about 181 cm as I had 1 inch heels.