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Leechlet Internal Femur 2014 Dr Guichet
« on: December 15, 2013, 02:33:07 PM »

Hi Guys!

I started making a diary on the old forum old forum  but to inject a little competition and most importantly to offer ppl a choice between two forums, I will also share my experiences here.

If you don't want to read posts made on old forum  because you are loyal to this forum, that's totally cool. I decided to document my future experiences via youtube videos so that I can remain neutral to either alliance.

Here is my youtube channel:


If you can't find it, just youtube "leechlet femur guichet 2014"

As I offered to people on the old forum, please feel free to skype me any time at leechletll

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Re: Leechlet Internal Femur 2014 Dr Guichet
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2013, 03:11:53 PM »

Glad to see you here, your diary is going to be hugely important since it's one of the few video diaries out there.
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Re: Leechlet Internal Femur 2014 Dr Guichet
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2013, 03:13:51 PM »

Hmm, seems like that YouTube forum plugin thing didn't understand your channel link, here's a working one:

http://  /leechletll
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Re: Leechlet Internal Femur 2014 Dr Guichet
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2013, 04:55:22 PM »

Hi!

Thanks for the kind support. My mood have been a roller coaster today. I will embed the videos below in the order it was created

Consultation and arrival in Italy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYMvyFZCWUI

Surgery date and training plan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUZVi9CbtsU

Key to a successful limb lengthening:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6haRwZU63mI

first height related mental leak since Italy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OecgGTIecWE

Hope u guys enjoy and gl!

PS. for mental leak videos, please don't comment on it and just leave it alone. i perfer to deal with it on my own bc it can be a fragile issue. but definitely feel free to share it and discuss it with other ppl. that's why i posted it. i want to share my experiences. but just don't offer advice or anything. that's all!

Enjoy!
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Re: Leechlet Internal Femur 2014 Dr Guichet
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2013, 05:14:28 PM »

Hi Leechlet,

Thanks for posting on this forum and sharing your experience with us!

Good luck with everything!
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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2013, 07:57:01 PM »

Hi Leechlet,

Thanks for posting here!  I check out forums too, but my preference is here.  More freedom here.

I'm excited for you on your journey!  Both Guichet and Betz are very capable LL surgeons. 
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Re: Leechlet Internal Femur 2014 Dr Guichet
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2013, 08:53:10 PM »

Hey man I saw that you were spending an entire six figures lengthening your femurs! Why not just get both your femurs and tibias done with accommodations in Korea?

Also, 10 cm on just your femurs is a lot man.
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Re: Leechlet Internal Femur 2014 Dr Guichet
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2013, 09:11:05 PM »

Hey man I saw that you were spending an entire six figures lengthening your femurs! Why not just get both your femurs and tibias done with accommodations in Korea?

Also, 10 cm on just your femurs is a lot man.

I was kind of thinking the same thing myself. Please don't get me wrong leechlet I think Dr. Guichet is a great choice. In my opinion anything is better than that fraud Dr. Betz and his strong as a bent straw Betzbone that always bends and breaks and then charges people 25k for titanium replacement!

It's just that spending 100k just on femur lengthening is a tremendous amount of money and going for 10cm on just your femurs is incredibly dangerous when you could spend the same amount of money with Dr. Donghoon Lee and lengthen your femurs up to 8cm with the Precice2 and do your tibias with LATN for 6-7cm. That would give you 14-15cm in height, your proportions would be much better and it would be much safer and healthier for you body.

Please continue to post regardless cause I really enjoy watching your videos and reading your posts.
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Re: Leechlet Internal Femur 2014 Dr Guichet
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2013, 01:05:27 AM »

Hey, thanks for the welcome ppl!

As for why I didn't do it with the Korean doctor, the answer is simply that I didn't know too much about him. I completely didn't do any research on him whatsoever. I am currently googling him right now and also reading diaries about him. Is it too late to change? Maybe. Maybe not. I haven't wired any money over yet.

The reason I didn't do Precice2 in the US is because it's expensive as hell and it doesn't even go to 10cm. I know 10cm is a lot, and that's just an aim I have, not even saying I will achieve it. It does seem quite ridiculous now that Dr Guichet drew markings on my leg. Let me tell you, 10 cm looked a lot smaller on a ruler. I was thinking, "ya ya, 10cm. how hard can it be?" as i stared at the small 4 inches on the ruler. but now i am starting to see things differently. a big reason i picked guichet is bc 10cm > 8cm and guichet cost less than US doctors. so i was like, what the heck? let's do it!

i didn't go with dr betz for a lot less of an intelligent reason then he is a fraud. in fact, i simply didn't went with him because he didn't answer my emails. that' it. i know, stupid huh? but that's the truth. i emailed both dr guichet and dr betz, and dr guichet replied in a few days. i was like "okay, sure. what the heck" so i went with it.

i am not sure the 100k cost even includes nail removal. i think that might be extra, but i'll have to double check.

the hospital and surgery for dr guichet is only 40-44k euro, which is 55-60usd ish at a good exchange rate. but the psychotherapy, medicine, apartment, taxi, apartment in milano, and everything else just adds up like a bitch. dr guichet requires pyschiotheorpy and although i respect him for that and agree with him about muscle remodeling, the truth is the bigger reason i didn't go with betz is simply bc i emailed him twice and no response. its funny how little things shaped the course of our lifes. could i simply called dr betz on skype, paid 15 cents for the call, and went with him instead? perhaps

or could i do some research on the korean doctor and then decide to fly to korea tomorrow? again, perhaps. thanks for letting me know. i am gonna do some research now. but most likely i'll stay in Italy with guichet. but i still want to do research just to be sure
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Re: Leechlet Internal Femur 2014 Dr Guichet
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2013, 01:19:19 AM »

It's a little disconcerting to me that you wanted to do 10 cm just because "it looked small on a ruler".  Have you done any research on LL before going into this?  Having the desire to get taller and enough money to do so is only half the race, you should know what you're getting into before moving forward with Guichet.
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Re: Leechlet Internal Femur 2014 Dr Guichet
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2013, 01:28:00 AM »

P.S. as you can see, i am rlly open to suggestions and also probably many of you guys know much more about this LL business than i do. i simply read a few diaries on old forum , sent out some emails (this was back in a very prestigious college when i was taking a ton of classes to graduate asap), and that was the backdrop for my decisions.

when i graduated, i contacted doctors. guichet replied immediately. then, i went on a japan trip for 1 month. why? bc my friend and i just graduated, and i love anime and sushi. again, turned out to be quite different then that, as with many things in my life. but back to LL --> when i came back i had a 1.5 week break before flying to Italy in Milano to the MXP airport.

and now... here i am. wondering if i am making the correct decision.

i am very open about my LL and told all my friends and family members. most ppl, and i mean like 80% of them, including girls i had sxx with, even the hot ones, doesn't seem to see LL the same way i do. BUT... they don't freak out when they stand next to taller ppl like i do. what do u call that again? height neurosis? whatever that is, i have that. and this thing isn't going to fix itself. i've seen psychologists about it before. the problem is, i am extremely convincing. i ended up convincing them that LL is a rational outcome. they are like "well, you seem like a healthy intelligent young man. u should go for it but be careful". cool cool. but idk. i wasn't 100% honest with them and also i was trying to convince them more than anything else. i always wanted to do surgery since this one girl rejected over summer 2013. well, before, i always wanted LL, but after that rejection due to height i wanted it rlly fking bad

well, there is it. that's something i didn't share with old forum . since this is an open community, my posts here are going to be more raw and real. that's honestly what happened and the events that lead to my being here -- right now in Milan at 2:26AM typing ferociously in my computer wondering if i am making the right decisions.

so please, tell me your thoughts!  ;D
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Re: Leechlet Internal Femur 2014 Dr Guichet
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2013, 01:43:48 AM »

You really can't go wrong with Dr. Guichet in terms of going to an orthopedic surgeon with the experience and credentials. If I could afford him right now, he's who I'd be going to.
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Re: Leechlet Internal Femur 2014 Dr Guichet
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2013, 01:48:48 AM »

PSS okay, to be fair i did read most of the betz and guichet diaries on old forum  as well as a smatter of other diaries both internal and otherwise and took copious notes. in fact, i have so much head knowledge about LL that when i sat down with guichet, our consultation was only like 40 min or so combined (i had two seperate smaller consultations). most of my friends r super nerds getting phds and stuff, so maybe dr guichet sensed that i grasp this intellectually? or maybe he sensed that i was sold on his product no matter what, and he didn't want to waste tongue on me. so it's not like am completely without knowledge.

but the truth also remains that it rlly has been less than 6 month since i seriously wanted LL and starting taking real actions toward it, including getting private yoga instructor, exercising, stopped smoking, and reading LL diaries while taking notes. and the truth is also that while i always hated my height and it caused a lot of suffering, the recent development with a girl over summer was rlly what sparked this journey. before, i always wanted LL but is was always something in the back of my mind, like a ace up my sleeve. but after her, i was like fk this i am getting taller asap and i am going to stop at nothing.

i am pretty set on LL. am i doing a right thing to get LL? at the end of the day, we all just want to be happy. so the question is, how much will LL contribute to my overall happiness in life? some things u just gotta do to find out, and i am pretty set on doing this and finding out for myself. maybe it helps tremendously. maybe it doesn't help at all. the reality is probably somewhere in between. when i get that answer, i'll also document it via vlogs.

so i guess the real question is, given that money is not a serious issue, what is the best option for me?
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Re: Leechlet Internal Femur 2014 Dr Guichet
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2013, 02:08:11 AM »

You've had a consultation with one of the best LL specialists in the world. If you feel good about it, I'd say go ahead and do your surgery with him. Sure he may not be the cheapest, but you'll have more peace of mind that you'll have a positive outcome with Guichet than with most other docs, imo. Since money isn't an issue I think you're good continuing with Guichet rather than taking a gamble on other doctors.

Best advice I could give just from following this whole subject of ll for more than 5 years now is that you don't want to get caught up in the numbers game. Don't sacrifice function of your legs for that extra cm if your body doesn't feel like it can handle it. 10cm is a lot so you may want to stop sooner, maybe at 7cm if Guichet thinks it's a good idea, then a year or two later lengthen your tibias if you deem it necessary.
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Post-surgery height: 170 cm (Frames removed 6/29/2015)

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Re: Leechlet Internal Femur 2014 Dr Guichet
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2013, 02:14:09 AM »

Go ahed with Dr Guichet. Do around 7cm.

There is also Dr Jamal in Ukraine!
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Re: Leechlet Internal Femur 2014 Dr Guichet
« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2013, 02:16:15 AM »

I think you picked a great dr and I would be excited if I were you to be finally having this operation.  I wouldn't be set on doing the 10cm though.  Wait until you see how you look and feel once you hit 7 or 8cm.  You are still young and will probably be able to find the time to do your tibs if this LL doesn't get you enough height.
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« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2013, 02:19:18 AM »

You're in good hands, just do your research and be careful from lengthening too much.

We're all rooting for you, and I believe LL will definitely make you a lot happier.
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Re: Leechlet Internal Femur 2014 Dr Guichet
« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2013, 05:08:52 AM »

Hey guys!

After chatting a bit on fb about LL, listening to dubstep, and then reading other doctors, i came to the same conclusion i came to a long time ago. There's plenty of good doctors out there, and many ppl have succeeded with dr guichet as many more will surely in the future too. I was stressed and lacking sleep, so i had my priorities wrong. what i need to do right now isn't to nickle and dime every single LL option out there until i find the absolute best value. i am already in Italy and i have medical tests and training already booked. what i need to do now is to focus and try to make it work. like a relationship, there comes to a point where the partner is simply good enough, and the marginal utility of finding another better candidate would be sooo slight that it's not practical to pursue.

sure, if i get precice in the states, it'll be similar price as guichet especially if i only end up getting 7 - 8. 10cm? i am of course not certain i can achieve this. sometimes, kids say the darnest things. but i will tell u one thing...

i am going to train rlly damn hard and aim for it. if i get it, it get it. if i don't, that's just too bad. guess i should've stayed home. oh well. at least i get to see Europe

as for weight bearing of precice, i read dr paley say that all internal nails have roughly the same strength capacity. since i am only 124, probably gonna drop to 120 ish after training and surgery, i'll be light and also i'll be rlly careful and use walker or crutches, so it probably doesn't matter too much either way. i guess it's kinda cool to walk around during lengthening instead of being confined to a wheelchair. i don't think it's so much the nail as it what the doctor's preferences are. but idk. like i said, it rlly doesn't matter at this point.

at this point, i am gonna try to catch some ZZZZZs and try to make it to my apointments tomorrow. that's whats most important right now, and i need to get my head together.

nite ppl!
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Re: Leechlet Internal Femur 2014 Dr Guichet
« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2013, 10:57:10 AM »

Hey Leechlet,

If I were you I would also compare Betznail/Guichet Nail/Precice 2 regarding the challenges you are going to face during lengthening - at the moment the US appears to have the most advanced technology. I think the advantage of not having to click shouldn't be underrated.

Also 8cm is already a huge amount of lengthening for your body, check out Dr. Birkholtz thread if you haven't already - http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=137.0 - it provides valuable information!

 
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Re: Leechlet Internal Femur 2014 Dr Guichet
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2013, 12:34:21 PM »

It's not your life, it's life.
Life is bigger than you.
Life isn't something that you possess,
it's something that you take part in and you witness.



Refreshing quote that resounds with what you were saying about the world not owing you anything. Contemplating getting it tattooed down my spine.
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« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2013, 01:13:23 PM »

Hey masche! I will definitely check out that page. But please understand that I am already in Milano and things are already partially underway, so I think i am pot committed to Guichet. However, perhaps for my tibia I will just do it in USA. In fact, I live only an hour away from LA, the location of Dr M. I can just drive over, get my legs done, and chillax for a few month at home. But that's tooooo far away to say.

Hey russianblues! I rlly like that quote! I think this journey is teaching me something rlly important. It's teaching me that in life, all you can do is try. Success is uncertain and never guranteed. I think a true man will stand for what he believes in, try with all he's got, and be confident at the end of the day knowing he did the best he could for something he believed in. If i'm honest, i am not quite a man yet. College in America is just like high school. I never rlly had to learn to do things on my own and stand for what I believed. I think this journey will teach me a kind of confidence that comes with acceptance and integrity.

kk, i have to go to lunch now. just did 1 hr of intense stretching. i am going to try to do a split in a month. it doesn't matter what i think or how much i have suffered. all that matters is that the hour of battle is NOW. in the past, the only thing i could do to change my height is whine and bitch about it. which is to say --> nothing. it rlly doesn't matter if my friends think it's unimportant and the girls i know can't understand it and see the importance of it to me.

the thing is, i want it. and that's all the reason i need to give it every ounce i've got. you are right. life is bigger than me. i can't get everyone to like me, to believe in what i believe. that's just life. but while i breathe, i am going to stand for what i believe
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Re: Leechlet Internal Femur 2014 Dr Guichet
« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2013, 05:57:33 PM »

hey guys

came back form cybex test. super tired. going to go eat, check out an apartment, and going to bed soon.

training starts tomorrow. 9AM.

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« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2013, 07:17:52 PM »

Hi Leechlet,

What kind of exercises do you recommend to prepare for the cybex test and the the training?
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« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2013, 03:33:34 AM »

Hi blackhawk!

I made a rlly detailed post about my prep and all on here:  Leechlet - Internal Femurs - Dr. Guichet - 2014 - My Femur Lengthening Journey old forum  Diary (http/www link edit)

sorry to make you read the old forum in case you have any negative feelings toward it. The short answer is, I did a ton of stretching and ran occasionally. To keep myself motivated, I had daily stretching and exercising charts, like HW assignments! Also, I biked for my college cycling team so my leg muscles were HUGE, as pointed out by ppl at isokinetic center and dr guichet. I am a sprinter, a small but fast guy that draft behind big dudes until the finish line like a parasitic fish and then sprint past it at like 60kilometer per hour

but if u want more details, definitlely read the old forum or wait until my new vids that will be VERY detailed about prep once my prep starts ---> in a few hours! haha  ;)


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« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2013, 05:40:25 AM »

Thank you Leechlet.  I will check the old forum.

Good luck with your training today!
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« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2013, 02:21:14 PM »

I already asked this by commenting on your video, but can you detail your workout routine of today?
I wish you the best, you so wise at a so young age.
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« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2013, 03:27:06 PM »

hey antoky

we just did hamstring stretches, bicycles, squats, etc. rlly basic stuffs. that's why i thought it was kinda a rip off. i paid 90 euros to have some guy tell me to bike on a stationary bike for 20 mintues, and then do squats for 20 mintues, and then etc etc

i hope things change or i am going home after op asap. i can do everything i did today at home for 1/1000th the price

i'll make a more detailed video later. and i'll talk to guichet about it. hopefully, it's only day one and things will change. if not, it's bye bye milano for me as soon as i can walk again
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« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2013, 03:29:11 PM »

ps. i am going to wait a few days before talking to guichet. i don't want to seem like i complain a lot. after all, i've only been there for one day. how much do i know anyways? i am gonna make a rlly detailed vid of me doing all the exercies in the isokinetic center soon. but i need more time to find out
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« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2013, 03:58:24 PM »

Hey leechlet, I'm asian and 5'3" too. To be honest I'm so jealous of you. Your parents have given you a lot of money for this and they understand your decision to do this with the utmost support. I hope it will be a smooth ride for you. I will some day do this. Some day
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