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Re: UNICORN - Dr. Guichet Internal Femurs 8cm - Summer 2016
« Reply #1333 on: July 03, 2020, 01:17:38 PM »

Yes, I checked your Instagram last night and saw the pictures. I wish I could have left a comment and some likes but I opted out of social media a long time ago.  Regardless, I think you still look great and I see you have a great sense of fashion.
How are you recovering now? Can you walk?

Hey Arrogance,

I totally get it about remaining anonymous on Instagram ie. not 'Liking' or leaving Comments. I'm grandma 👵🏻, even if I threw pie at Trump, I'll get 12 'Likes' whereas Gen Z/Millenials can easily get 300 'Likes' for walking and chewing gum. I find it even more hilarious that people my parents' generation will get 2 likes even when finishing a triathlon at 101 years old.

But I think that safe spaces like these are really helpful because they allow us to do our own research in utmost anonymity and zero judgements. We're not 5 years old anymore and don't need micromanaging.

I'm not looking for likes and approvals on my Insta or here because I know many would not be caught dead researching or viewing leg lengthening pictures and posts. I do this because I feel like there're not sufficient information out there and we cannot trust many published sources because they're either misleadingly sponsored or just factually wrong.

And we all know the only way to truth (be it LL or anything else) is when there is sufficient data points that concur (like an Amazon product review). So let me just be one of these points just because I've been suffering for 4 years and there has been many observations over time that strike me and I want to share them with you.

The good news is, nobody should be in this for more than 2 years, hence, that's also why we don't have sufficient data. Most people get it done, struggle for a few months and then move on. And that's how we want it to be ideally.

I write/post photos in public in the hopes of granting you a rare view of a prolonged LL process and recovery. By sheer luck, you get access to a wide buffet of complications, small and large. And hopefully, it helps all of us gain more knowledge collectively, know what to ask and look out for and ultimately, prevents anyone else to ever having to walk a mile in my shoes.
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Re: UNICORN - Dr. Guichet Internal Femurs 8cm - Summer 2016
« Reply #1334 on: July 07, 2020, 12:26:52 PM »

Thanks for the congratulations unicorn. And yeah I'm excited for college even with this covid thingy going on.

I agree with you as well, if I do the surgery in my 20s and things go south it would make up a rather big portion of my overall life at the time compared to a later age.

Hopefully to be safe I'll be doing it at 25 with an American doctor for sure and with an fda approved nail.

As you point out, timing and money is important, I hope you can get back on your feet soon. 4 years is long overdue.

Best wishes unicorn

Yes, and actually this thinking does apply to our actual leg lengthening height goal as well. If you had your surgery at a very young age, and if something goes wrong, it represents a major chunk of your life that you cannot afford to miss. Similarly, people tend to underestimate their lengthening height goal compared to their original starting height. It really could be that additional 5mm that push you over to the danger zone.  So why is your height goal relative to your starting height that important?

Contractures.

Our bodies, skins and soft tissues cannot be lengthened so linearly and systematically as our bones. In fact, I would always say that leg lengthening should be divided into 2 vital parts:

1 - Bone lengthening
2 - Soft tissue lengthening


When you start your LL process, as challenging as it is, you make your bones longer by adjusting and lengthening 1mm per day etc. After a good 2-4 weeks or so, when your body has healed from the surgical wounds, the actual lengthening act itself doesn't hurt much anymore.

However, do you know your body can't necessarily catch up to this rate of lengthening? That's why they advise you to stretch and improve flexibility as much as possible prior to lengthening, and do a lot of physio and stretches during and after lengthening.

Most people are concerned about muscle atrophy but actually, that itself is not even such a big deal compared to a permanent duck ass, knock knees, inward turning toes and hunching. That's why a 7cm lengthened leg represents a significantly different risk if your starting height is 150cm vs 180cm (yes, I have met people who are 180cm who aspire to be taller because the society they live in has a higher average height and who are we to judge anyway?).

One of my earliest mistakes was ignoring the many experienced lengtheners who posted on this forum 5 years ago stating that 6-7cm is the limit for femur lengthening before the risks snowball beyond your control thereafter. Nobody had explained to me, much less Guichet nor my physiotherapist, that our soft tissues represent a major hurdle to recovery.

Here are the symptoms of shorter soft tissues during FEMUR lengthening (since I've zero experience with tibias) :

IT BAND (a hybrid ligament-tendon that CANNOT lengthen, situated on the side of your thighs)
The moment your femur bone is longer than your IT band, you become a wonky marionette puppet. Your shorter IT band will be pulling your legs apart at all times. I couldn't get my legs to close even after 1cm of femur bone lengthening. And because it is a soft tissue that CANNOT lengthen but can be stretched a bit, doctors resort to releasing it surgically like they did to mine to solve the problem.

Because my femur had runaway to 10cm length when my starting height was merely 158cm, my NHS doctor concluded that all the physio in the world wasn't going to ever lengthen my IT band to match that 10cm. And miraculously, the moment she released (trim/cut) my IT band at surgery, I could finally close my legs together again.



PSOAS (Hip Flexor Muscles)
This is a vital muscle that literally connects your spine to your legs so that you can effectively lift up your leg and walk. It's vital because our bones are just building blocks. They're actually quite useless if we don't have muscles to animate them.

So imagine, when your psoas muscle is shorter than your femur bone, your body literally folds (hunches) because suddenly there's not enough soft tissue to let you stand up straight. And worse, your back arches painfully creating duck ass (lordosis) which will turn your knees inwards (valgus).

The good news is the psoas is a muscle that can lengthen over time with diligent physiotherapy but unlike bone lengthening, there is no linear timing and results. So I always tell people to bear in mind that while the doctors promise a 3-month recovery period, you could resemble a quasimodo donald duck for longer than expected if you're not careful. And this is the part the doctors might downplay because hunching for a long time might not be a condition you can afford to have if you had a job to keep or to function normally in society.





QUADS & HAMSTRINGS
Ditto, these yield the same domino effects like short psoas, when they're too short for your femur bones. Imagine that you're wearing a full body suit from neck to toe that is too small and unstretchable. You'll have to contort and bend to fit in it. Same thing here.

Hence, this is the reason why if you're preparing for LL, you absolutely need to give yourself the maximum chances to succeed. Short of controlling your bone lengthening, soft tissue lengthening is something you can actively work on yet not fully control.

Once you're done with your bone lengthening and you're no longer with your lengthening doctor - don't be surprised that your body hasn't automatically bounced back to pre-LL condition: ability to stand up straight, loss of muscle mass and stamina.

All the short soft tissue symptoms (actually, let's not blame our soft tissues for being short because relatively speaking, it's our femurs that got longer) - can be further aggravated if no adequate/disciplined physio is done to stretch them properly; potentially causing longer term back pain, groin pain, pelvic pain, knee pain, calf pain and more.

Because you can see that anatomically speaking, we're simply an interconnected marionette doll. Our bones are the stick figures that represent us, which are completely useless if there're no strings to pull and animate us. And these strings are our soft tissues. That's why they're so vital to our lengthening process.

Does this make sense?  In my humble opinion, lengthening should be divided in 2 parts: bone lengthening and soft tissue 'lengthening' to match. Otherwise, you'd be setting off a chain of events that will inevitably cause havoc to your poor unwitting body!

BEFORE AND AFTER MY SURGICAL SOFT TISSUE RELEASE

HUNCH & DUCK ASS


VALGUS
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Re: UNICORN - Dr. Guichet Internal Femurs 8cm - Summer 2016
« Reply #1335 on: July 09, 2020, 11:56:24 AM »

Are you going to hurt Dr Guichet after all of this is done?

Weird that many recommended Dr G sooo much more than Dr Sarin in India but I went there, paid $15.000, got 7cm taller and now I’m living the dream. Yesterday I even signed a minor model contract. Height requirement were 180cm for men. That would have been impossible for me before LL.

I really wish you a fast recovery miss.
If you want Dr G to get hurt I’ll do it for you for $15.000 - plain business deal.
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« Reply #1336 on: July 09, 2020, 02:38:09 PM »

Are you going to hurt Dr Guichet after all of this is done?

Weird that many recommended Dr G sooo much more than Dr Sarin in India but I went there, paid $15.000, got 7cm taller and now I’m living the dream. Yesterday I even signed a minor model contract. Height requirement were 180cm for men. That would have been impossible for me before LL.

I really wish you a fast recovery miss.
If you want Dr G to get hurt I’ll do it for you for $15.000 - plain business deal.

To play devil's advocate, Dr. G was my doctor, and I had a great result ultimately. Although I'm not model height post LL hehe.

But I agree that Dr. G was truly horrible to Unicorn. I'd never recommend him to anyone, especially with new weight bearing rods available elsewhere (Precice/Stryde). 
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« Reply #1337 on: July 10, 2020, 04:12:49 PM »

Are you going to hurt Dr Guichet after all of this is done?

Weird that many recommended Dr G sooo much more than Dr Sarin in India but I went there, paid $15.000, got 7cm taller and now I’m living the dream. Yesterday I even signed a minor model contract. Height requirement were 180cm for men. That would have been impossible for me before LL.

I really wish you a fast recovery miss.
If you want Dr G to get hurt I’ll do it for you for $15.000 - plain business deal.

Hi Sweden,

Thanks for your offer, but I'm not looking to hurt anyone.  I'm merely sharing my experiences both good and bad, and also my observations having been stuck in my shoes for 4 years.

Hence, am very happy to continue contributing to this forum with any new reflections just in case it comes in handy for anyone who's considering, who's undergoing and who's recovering from LL.

Take care and stay safe!

Unicorn
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« Reply #1338 on: July 10, 2020, 05:12:44 PM »

Though, to all you LLers out there who're suffering from complications or have been wronged, subjected to discrimination, unfair dismissals, judgements, criticisms, abandonment and ridicule from your circle of 'professional carers, friends, family and acquaintances'... this is a dream I most relish...

To find our perpetrators waking up in a very dark room, to the sound of IV drip, drip, dripping... into their arm. As they crane their necks and look around bewildered, they realize they're strapped to a hospital bed, wearing a hospital gown and not much else.

Their eyes slowly adjust to the darkness and come into focus. They realize they're lying in a dimly lit room alone, with just a rusty metal door at the far end, bolted shut and chains clanging away with the wind. And then, a dull ache starts to throb from their thighs...

Their heart starts to palpitate a little faster as they peek under their hospital gown and notice 3 fresh bandages where incisions might have been made. It's not clear to them yet what has happened but the locations of these 3 incisions do look familiar - one near the knee, one in the middle of the thigh and the last one, high on the hip.

It's slowly dawning on them now, what their current predicament stems from. Panic stricken, they start mumbling, "No, please no, this can't be real, please no! Let me wake up! This is just a nightmare..." And then, the pain intensifies... it's now flared from throbbing to burning. It feels like their legs are placed on a BBQ pit, lazily roasting away, combusting from the inside out.

Where are the damned painkillers? Why am I here? Where's the nurse? Where's the damned call button? Where is everybody? Someone, help!!! I can't move! Why is my bed rocking from left to right? And what's that howling noise outside my room?

Where am I???

If they could only see outside, but it won't be long before they figure out. If you ventured outside their 'room', it's actually a rusty old shipping container, no different from the thousands of containers stacked around them. And if you hopped down to the ship deck, you'll understand why the room was rocking with each wake. You're on a container ship hell bound to Angola.

The good news is by the time your friend gets there, he/she would be taller by 10cm...
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« Reply #1339 on: July 10, 2020, 05:25:01 PM »

Unicorn, I have been reading your story. Started yesterday and finished today. You are very strong - I think no matter what happen you will be okay :-)

Good you have put a link so we can help you if we can.

Wish you all the best :-)
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« Reply #1340 on: July 10, 2020, 05:37:39 PM »

 
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« Reply #1341 on: July 10, 2020, 08:36:48 PM »

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« Reply #1342 on: July 11, 2020, 06:02:14 AM »

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« Reply #1343 on: July 11, 2020, 11:59:47 AM »



 



I BETTER SPECIFY THAT THIS IS JUST A PARODY AND NOT A LIVE THREAT TO ANYONE REAL OR HYPOTHETICAL
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« Reply #1344 on: July 11, 2020, 04:20:08 PM »

Ok I get it. You want to ship Guichet off to China
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« Reply #1345 on: July 11, 2020, 04:47:27 PM »

Ok I get it. You want to ship Guichet off to China

Haha!  Nobody in particular.  It's only when you face prejudices from narrow-minded people who can't even begin to understand what you're going through, that you want to snap a finger and magically whisk them off to that container... for complimentary leg lengthening services and cruise...

Because it is so easy to judge and cast stones.  I too did that during my first consultation when we ran into one of Guichet's freshly operated candidate who was choking with anger, expletives and agony.  We just brushed her off thinking, "What a princess!".  If she can't deal and complains so much, why did she agree to this procedure?  Little did I know.... she nailed it on every count.

ON A DIFFERENT NOTE, for those of you who haven't watched this... Will Ferrell's Eurovision Contest (Netflix) - it's an utter delight, over-the-top ridiculousness that is both feel-good and inclusive.  I'm so in love with this mashup video because that's how I feel like inside if I were to burst into song - hoping for a world that's more accepting of us who're so often misunderstood...

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« Reply #1346 on: July 12, 2020, 02:29:43 PM »

Hi unicorn,

What would you say to someone considering this surgery?
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« Reply #1347 on: July 18, 2020, 11:12:57 PM »

Would having 6 cm on femurs fk your it band up?
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« Reply #1348 on: July 20, 2020, 03:58:14 PM »

Would having 6 cm on femurs fk your it band up?

What's your starting height?  Everything is relative, remember.  The same constant 6cm will cause more muscle contractures if you're shorter than a taller person variable.

But 6cm is usually regarded as a safe goal and whilst you will still suffer from duck ass, widened legs apart, hunching and some valgus in the beginning, your flexibility will make the difference of how fast you can recover from muscle contractures.

Usually, females and younger men are more flexible than older men.  That's what I had perceived.  And some doctors are actually smarter to release IT bands during the initial surgery, just to help out with muscle contractures.

So to prepare, always best to do all the exercises that stretches hip flexor (psoas), quads, hamstrings, IT bands and even calf muscles coz everything is interconnected. 

It will make a difference coz the moment surgery is performed, you'll be held hostage by your own soft tissues.  So do it now, do it often ~ it will reduce your recovery time, discomfort and return to regular walking gait.
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« Reply #1349 on: July 20, 2020, 04:13:02 PM »

What's your starting height?  Everything is relative, remember.  The same constant 6cm will cause more muscle contractures if you're shorter than a taller person variable.

But 6cm is usually regarded as a safe goal and whilst you will still suffer from duck ass, widened legs apart, hunching and some valgus in the beginning, your flexibility will make the difference of how fast you can recover from muscle contractures.

Usually, females and younger men are more flexible than older men.  That's what I had perceived.  And some doctors are actually smarter to release IT bands during the initial surgery, just to help out with muscle contractures.

So to prepare, always best to do all the exercises that stretches hip flexor (psoas), quads, hamstrings, IT bands and even calf muscles coz everything is interconnected. 

It will make a difference coz the moment surgery is performed, you'll be held hostage by your own soft tissues.  So do it now, do it often ~ it will reduce your recovery time, discomfort and return to regular walking gait.

Thanks for the reply.

My starting height is weak 174 cm, let's consider it as 173 flat.
And I want to be at least 185cm, because I'm a proportion freak and I'd be satisfied with 7 cm on femurs which would make me stand tall at 180cm. But since I care a lot about proportions, I also have to lengthen my tibias. So, yeah. 6 cm femurs and 5 tibias. maybe 7 and 4.
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« Reply #1350 on: July 28, 2020, 12:19:26 AM »

Are you going to hurt Dr Guichet after all of this is done?

Weird that many recommended Dr G sooo much more than Dr Sarin in India but I went there, paid $15.000, got 7cm taller and now I’m living the dream. Yesterday I even signed a minor model contract. Height requirement were 180cm for men. That would have been impossible for me before LL.

I really wish you a fast recovery miss.
If you want Dr G to get hurt I’ll do it for you for $15.000 - plain business deal.

Let's not even create the slightest insinuation here that Sarin is a good, recommendable doctor.
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