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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #465 on: January 29, 2018, 10:55:27 AM »

We have the same problem but with different circumstances , you blamed the doctor and i blame myself every day
If you can afford to do LL don't care about people what they may think about you , the most important thing is breaking your legs and going through the horrible torture of lenghtning and loosing your athletic ability and complications you may get from LL
I think helloworld didn't tell his family about the surgery
Please think carfuly even the best doctors can make you suffer
Did not tell before I was almost recovered.
But once I told about it it was big relief that I could share this.
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« Reply #466 on: January 29, 2018, 10:57:23 AM »

Guys you really have a problem that LL isn't going to fix. CLL is contraindicated in people suffering from BDD as you obviously are when you wish LL at 175 or above.
I see it as a rational investment.
There are many costs and benefits associated with LL and I felt before it would be worth it, meaning more benefits than costs and I still feel that way after doing LL.
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #467 on: January 29, 2018, 03:17:31 PM »

I see it as a rational investment.
There are many costs and benefits associated with LL and I felt before it would be worth it, meaning more benefits than costs and I still feel that way after doing LL.



For you there were more benefits than costs but you should consider the cases of people who have wasted years of their lives, spent more than 100 or 200k due to complications and haven't yet recovered. RESPECT.

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« Reply #468 on: January 29, 2018, 04:40:19 PM »


For you there were more benefits than costs but you should consider the cases of people who have wasted years of their lives, spent more than 100 or 200k due to complications and haven't yet recovered. RESPECT.

those people are the same people who lengthened too much,
went to a bad doctor (like monegal or guichet),
or didnt follow the doctors advice.

helloworld's case is prolly had the best recovery of all monegal pts. that doctor is a butcher who uses the worst internal lengthening device.

go to paley, rozbruch, mahboubian, parihar

i have yet to see one long term complication from these doctors. If you go to a bad doc, you'll be lucky to walk normally again
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #469 on: January 29, 2018, 05:50:47 PM »

I wouldn't say Guichet or Monegal are bad surgeons... but, as Unicorn says, 'get a grip on reality before putting your life at so much risk'. Helloworld and LLSouthAmerica are very good cases by Guichet and Monegal (good and quick recovery), but these doctors also have TERRIBLE cases. Unicorn and Musicmaker are very good examples of the life-long complications you can get from LL by these surgeons.
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« Reply #470 on: January 29, 2018, 06:11:21 PM »

I wouldn't say Guichet or Monegal are bad surgeons... but, as Unicorn says, 'get a grip on reality before putting your life at so much risk'. Helloworld and LLSouthAmerica are very good cases by Guichet and Monegal (good and quick recovery), but these doctors also have TERRIBLE cases. Unicorn and Musicmaker are very good examples of the life-long complications you can get from LL by these surgeons.
They are indeed helpful and will avoid spinal compression between morning and evening height,( you can even increase your morning height a little bit). But this increase is not permanent unfortunately
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #471 on: January 29, 2018, 07:27:14 PM »

And of course Unicorn and Musicmaker shouldn't be blamed. They followed the doctors' advices, but got complications instead.
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #472 on: January 29, 2018, 10:42:21 PM »


For you there were more benefits than costs but you should consider the cases of people who have wasted years of their lives, spent more than 100 or 200k due to complications and haven't yet recovered. RESPECT.
Yes! You are right! In many other cases you read in the forum it was not worth it.
However, all the Monegal patients that I have talked to, except for one, (I have talked to around 12 patients) it was the right decision, at least so far, when no complication is apparent.
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #473 on: February 05, 2018, 10:27:47 AM »

Helloworld  i hope you are doing well , i which you post new videos about how your running improved
Are you still exercising and stretching ?
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« Reply #474 on: February 05, 2018, 12:10:57 PM »

Helloworld  i hope you are doing well , i which you post new videos about how your running improved
Are you still exercising and stretching ?
Exercise: yes, but much less.
Went from 2.5 hours per day right after operation, to 2 hours, 1.5 and 1 hour around 6 months later.
Now, I am still exercising 10- 20 minutes each day and doing a few minutes of stretching.
Another video? I posted one less than 3 week ago.
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #475 on: February 05, 2018, 08:35:04 PM »

But what about running ?
Do you feel better i mean do you feel you flexibltly improved ? Do you feel any pain in your knees
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #476 on: March 25, 2018, 01:26:57 PM »

I feel better and no pain in the knee.
Here is running video. I think I am as fast as before but still need to find a 100 meter track.

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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #477 on: March 25, 2018, 03:20:59 PM »

I feel better and no pain in the knee.
Here is running video. I think I am as fast as before but still need to find a 100 meter track.



congraturation mannnn   .Nice Runninng
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #478 on: March 25, 2018, 03:23:46 PM »

Your running seems somewhat slow and the gait is a little weird Helloworld.
That said, it is completely normal after LL and even better than average, but I don't think you ran like that before LL, otherwisenyour sprint was not very fast.

I can run about like that while I am still rehabilitating from my at shortening surgery and my running ability is much worse than before LL. So I don't think the running on your video is as good as before LL, which is normal as I said before (and still you are better than the vast majority of LLers).
But you know better
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #479 on: March 25, 2018, 03:52:08 PM »

I feel better and no pain in the knee.
Here is running video. I think I am as fast as before but still need to find a 100 meter track.


Congratulations, you seem pretty good. I have a question regarding your current height.  So you lengthened 5,5 cm,  how much did your real height increase in fact? Have u measured your height exactly? Because you know femur bone is not vertical as tibia bone, so if you lengthened 5,5 cm, you may gain 5,5 cm real height.  i am just curious about difference between lengthened and real height
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #480 on: March 25, 2018, 07:10:09 PM »

I feel it is normal, but I would need a 100 meter track to know for sure.
Before I was around 13.5 for 100 meters.
What I do know is that a friend, the one who did the video, is pretty fast and a former Tai kwan do champion and I easily outran him.
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #481 on: March 25, 2018, 07:20:08 PM »

I'm just glad some people can run again. I don't expect any of them to be just like they were before, after stretching their soft tissues so much.
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #482 on: March 25, 2018, 08:47:37 PM »

Ok, maybe from video we cant see exactly how fast you run.
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #483 on: March 25, 2018, 11:06:01 PM »

helloworld,

You look great running man. I was always surprised at your level of PT, and just saw videos again of you in March 2017, you had almost no muscle atrophy.

I am currently lengthening with Precise 2 which seems to limit us a little more, and the muscle atrophy for me has been pretty bad.

Any advise you can share from those times for you.

Thanks.
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« Reply #484 on: March 25, 2018, 11:41:27 PM »

helloworld,

You look great running man. I was always surprised at your level of PT, and just saw videos again of you in March 2017, you had almost no muscle atrophy.

I am currently lengthening with Precise 2 which seems to limit us a little more, and the muscle atrophy for me has been pretty bad.

Any advise you can share from those times for you.

Thanks.

He was already tall before LL, so his % increase in his femurs isn't nearly as high as the ones from most people in here, who do ~6cm at shorter heights. And he had a good recovery. This is why I think I'm gonna think hard about my max limit when doing LL.
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #485 on: March 26, 2018, 10:13:02 AM »

about muscle extension:
does the muscle not also extend during childhood and puberty? There does not seem to be a problem with it.

So what I did, and which I think helped was:
exercise and strech for 2.5 hours day during first few month, which now got reduced to around 20 minutes per day
always do high intensity workouts
sleep 8 hours+
see the sun as much as possible
eat around 2 kg of raw fruits and vegetables per day
take creatin, lysin, vitamin D, calcium
extend really slowly: 5.5 cm over 3 months
go back to normal life (going to office, seeing friends, going to normal gym, travelling) after less than 3 months

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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #486 on: March 27, 2018, 05:16:57 PM »

Thank you for sharing this helloworld.  It all seems doable except for the sleep part.  Seems I can only get 30-40 minutes of sleep at a time currently.  I am at the 6 cm mark and it has gotten tough.

Thank you for coming back to answer and update.  Glad you're well!
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« Reply #487 on: March 28, 2018, 05:17:41 PM »

Thank you for sharing this helloworld.  It all seems doable except for the sleep part.  Seems I can only get 30-40 minutes of sleep at a time currently.  I am at the 6 cm mark and it has gotten tough.

Thank you for coming back to answer and update.  Glad you're well!
True!
I did three sleep sessions: at night, early morning and afternoon.
That is what bothered me most.
I remember I would take hot and cold showers to get some relief from pain.
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #488 on: June 07, 2018, 10:11:28 PM »

Everything is fine.

I had not been weighing myself for many month maybe a year and was shocked when I went on the scale.
Shocked because before I was weighing between 80-84 kg for as long as I can remember.
And I did not become skinnier nor did I become fater, nor more muscular. I look the same!
But now I weigh 88.5 kg, 5 kg more than before.
 
So I guess this additional weight comes from the additional leg bone and muscle.
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #489 on: June 08, 2018, 02:18:56 AM »

Hows your new life after LL?
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« Reply #490 on: January 14, 2019, 11:25:15 PM »

Hello world!
I did not post for over 7 months, so wanted to give a quick update: Everything is fine!

Muscle strength: same or better
I remember that I was proud that a few month after surgery I was already lifting with my legs 80 kg, more than most other guys. In fact, I remember that I was shocked when a really muscular guy was lifting around 100 kg. But recently I went to the same gym again, after 9 month of no training there, and I was able to the maximum weight of 140 kg, which I never saw anybody else do.
Will post video soon.

Speed
I still have to time a 100 meter run.
I ran 1km in 3:35. Before my all time best was just under 3:00. However, I also had not been training at all, so I would think the running speed is close to normal.

Flexibility
Before the surgery I had improved my flexibility to almost be able to touch the floor with my entire palm. This flexibility I have now lost. But also, it is true that I am not doing much stretching.

Side Effects
I feel fine. However, my left knee made a click when fully stretching it. Now this click has become a grinding sound when bending it.
Will post video soon.

Was it worth it?
Yes!
I think that in the end from the 5.5 cm I lengthened I only gained 4.5. But this small difference does make a big difference how I see myself and how other see me. A lot of people that were 1-3 cm taller than me are now 1-3 cm shorter than me, and it does make a difference in interaction. This has led to more confidence and thus improved the quality of my life.


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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #491 on: January 15, 2019, 01:33:32 AM »

Hello world!
I did not post for over 7 months, so wanted to give a quick update: Everything is fine!

Muscle strength: same or better
I remember that I was proud that a few month after surgery I was already lifting with my legs 80 kg, more than most other guys. In fact, I remember that I was shocked when a really muscular guy was lifting around 100 kg. But recently I went to the same gym again, after 9 month of no training there, and I was able to the maximum weight of 140 kg, which I never saw anybody else do.
Will post video soon.

Speed
I still have to time a 100 meter run.
I ran 1km in 3:35. Before my all time best was just under 3:00. However, I also had not been training at all, so I would think the running speed is close to normal.

Flexibility
Before the surgery I had improved my flexibility to almost be able to touch the floor with my entire palm. This flexibility I have now lost. But also, it is true that I am not doing much stretching.

Side Effects
I feel fine. However, my left knee made a click when fully stretching it. Now this click has become a grinding sound when bending it.
Will post video soon.

Was it worth it?
Yes!
I think that in the end from the 5.5 cm I lengthened I only gained 4.5. But this small difference does make a big difference how I see myself and how other see me. A lot of people that were 1-3 cm taller than me are now 1-3 cm shorter than me, and it does make a difference in interaction. This has led to more confidence and thus improved the quality of my life.

Congratulations. Check my reply

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=5465.msg101116;topicseen#msg101116
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #492 on: January 15, 2019, 04:27:52 AM »

Congratulations. Check my reply

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=5465.msg101116;topicseen#msg101116

You are clearly a troll. If you can't spread your message without being rude and obnoxious on someone else's diary you are as good as a troll.

Thanks for the update helloworld. Your diary is one the best. Please ignore this guy.
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #493 on: January 21, 2019, 09:36:13 PM »



video of thigh exercise.
Thigh circumference 59 cm.
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #494 on: January 21, 2019, 09:52:44 PM »

You are clearly a troll. If you can't spread your message without being rude and obnoxious on someone else's diary you are as good as a troll.

Thanks for the update helloworld. Your diary is one the best. Please ignore this guy.

Cool be cool. I said Congratulations to Helloworld. I'm happy he's doing fine (even if his nail failed. My nail didn't fail but I had other problems and I'm not happy with my LL experience. Everybody deserves both sides of the story, the good and the bad side
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« Reply #495 on: April 28, 2019, 07:56:00 PM »

Here my latest x-rays:
https://imgur.com/a/VnL2aCY
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