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[LLSouthAmerica]

Your are nothing more that a slime bag.  Give me a call if you think I'm Mongeal, I have already let you know how to contact me.   Perhaps I think you are Guichet?   Give me your contact information, I have Skype, I'll contact you.

I defend my LL doctor because I have total confidence in him, my procedure has gone extremely smooth and actually like him as a person.  Name one patient that Monegal has abandoned! your can't because it has not happened.  I have met some of the patients that have had experienced complications with Mongegal - and guess what - they appreciate him.  Why? Because this is a risky procedure and he don't abandon you no matter if you have the money to pay for further surgery or not- he is in your corner for the duration.

Your continue your idiotic claim that Monegal has some sort of hypnotic power over his patients.   Has it ever occurred to your "pathetic ass" that his patients stick up for him because we trust him?    No, it's much easier to claim that we are clone accounts and that "we put our hands in the oven" - what ever that means.

I attack you because you are a troll, and a troll is a troll, they are what they post and deserve no mercy.  There is no other reason for you to be totally consumed with Dr. Monegal when you have no relationship with him.

You claim that its irrational to defend your doctor?  I say it irrational to slander someone who is not your doctor.  What makes more sense? You are as dub as a rock.

The fact that you cannot discuss anything without insulting makes you unworthy of continuing this. Just leave him be Shadow91. We have awakened the anger of the ultimate LL lurker: Dr. Monegal.

[LongHairGirl]

I stand by everything I said about the Butcher From Barcelona. He is a dirty older man that constantly hits on and makes sexual advances towards his younger female patients. Disgusting! Dr. Monegal has absolutely ruined a number of his patients lives by causing them crippling complications that he is unable to fix. If you talk to these patients in private when the good doctor is not around to monitor what they say, that's when you will hear the whole story. I really don't care what anyone says about me on this forum, call me a troll or whatever...My father raised me to be a much stronger girl than to care what some strangers say about me on the internet.

[patientprivacy]

I stand by everything I said about the Butcher From Barcelona. He is a dirty older man that constantly hits on and makes sxxual advances towards his younger female patients. Disgusting! Dr. Monegal has absolutely ruined a number of his patients lives by causing them crippling complications that he is unable to fix. If you talk to these patients in private when the good doctor is not around to monitor what they say, that's when you will hear the whole story. I really don't care what anyone says about me on this forum, call me a troll or whatever...My father raised me to be a much stronger girl than to care what some strangers say about me on the internet.

Unless you give some kind of proof, your story is a FAKE. I have talked to people living at MIC and they said your story is a FAKE. Even the troll says your story is a FAKE! You're a FAKE!

[Bander72]

 The cult of mongeal just keeps increasing. They might take over the forum for good.

[Four Inch]

The fact that you cannot discuss anything without insulting makes you unworthy of continuing this. Just leave him be Shadow91. We have awakened the anger of the ultimate LL lurker: Dr. Monegal.

The only people I insult are blatantly slanderous cowards that hide behind the forum.   Reading your ridiculous posts over and over again one multiple forums about a decent person that happens to be my doctor is infuriating.  I have never seen such a targeted attack on a doctor that has had plenty of success.

Again, Im staying at MIC's Apt. 4.7, do you need the main number again?   I  would rather insult your face to face but at least I can continue to insult you over the phone and not subject others to my ranting.   

[LLSouthAmerica]

The only people I insult are blatantly slanderous cowards that hide behind the forum.   Reading your ridiculous posts over and over again one multiple forums about a decent person that happens to be my doctor is infuriating.  I have never seen such a targeted attack on a doctor that has had plenty of success.

Again, Im staying at MIC's Apt. 4.7, do you need the main number again?   I  would rather insult your face to face but at least I can continue to insult you over the phone and not subject others to my ranting.

I wouldn't waste any of my time on a useless person such as yourself. Either way, I'm done with the Mongeal subject, I think a lot of people here have caught up to your bull .

Keep insulting me to "defend" your doctor and you are only proving further my point and exposing yourself to more shame. So, you are not doing your doctor or yourself any favour by continuing to behave like an uneducated  .

Take a hint and move on.

[jojo]

Post papirs / mails / bills from your Horrible experience.

If not. Ban this user.

[Four Inch]

Either way, I'm done with the Mongeal subject.

I hope you intend on keeping your word. After all you have no connection with Mongeal; trolls like you will eventually lose their nerve since they have no real goal except to spread misinformation.  A patient however, has a connection, be it positive or negative, and will remain adamant in stating what they know to be true.

[Four Inch]

Post papirs / mails / bills from your Horrible experience.

If not. Ban this user.

At the very least you should mention the forum names of the "patients" you spoke with so that they can either confirm or deny your claims.  It so easy to sit at a computer at a distance and defame someone.  Since this forum is hosted in the US; perhaps the defamed should work on getting a court order to expose your IP and force your ISP to track you down.  Defamation of character is a crime in most countries and if your post has no basis in reality (which it obvious does not) it's certainly qualifies as that.

[Rod Thick]

Cooper's nightmare with Dr. Monegal: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=2454.msg51176#msg51176

I had very bad experience with Tibia lengthening. I made terrible mistake of doing tibia with Monegal. I probably went through worst ultimate nightmares. I usually write Dr. in front of him but he lost that honorary title long time ago. Ever since I came to US I had some nuisances about right tibia. It felt something did not go well. But I was giving benefit of doubt. I have been telling all LLers’ through private chat tibia should be easy and since this is one leg I should have much better experience than femur.

Late last year I went to see Dr. Rozbruch in New York to check on tibia. Immediately after reading x-ray he pointed out 3 major issues. 1) Provactum tibia bone curving 2) Fibula migrated up. When the monegal fixate tibia and fib bones he somehow pushed the fibula up and fixate. The angulation is not correct this is major issue out of three 3) low callous and possible non-union 4) lost nerve on feet about 25% (not major but had to fix).  Dr. R advised to fixed all three and his assistant wrote a note which I forwarded monegal right away. I asked precisely to Dr. R what can be done with him. The answer was reverse everything and put external fixator for tibia and small monorail for tibia and lengthen. I was devastated to hear that!

I emailed monegal and hoped he can correct the issue. But he denied any of that need fix. Similar response to Crimson: ‘everything is fine' and keep lengthening to your desire 5.5cm. He also advised me not see any LL specialist. I told him ok. But I was not stupid. I knew by then I have major issues and I was only about 3.5cm. I keep lengthening and start looking for a solution to fix right leg and lengthen left leg. I was determined to get it done in US because I cannot take more chances.
The two US doctor I communicated:
1) Paley : first chastised me for going for inexperience doctor second the complication is major and will require more time and money to fix. His recommendation is take out the fitbone, put external fixator to not to loose the distraction gained, inserted non lengthening rod, lengthen fibula by 1cm, plated fibula, fixated tibia/fibula, bone grafted tibia and fibula for non-union, nerve decompression and put new non lengthening rod. He estimated about $100K for fix and left leg lengthening with precise.
2) Rozbruch: fist he did not want to help and asked me to go my first surgeon. I told him monegal is not capable of fixing and cannot be trusted. He said he will help. Cost about the same.

I also contacted few other doctors and everyone agreed on the three issues. I picked one of the US doctor and currently in recovering.

[Rod Thick]

Cooper's nightmare with Dr. Monegal: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=2454.msg51176#msg51176

Monegal Issues:
1)   Dishonest: He did not disclose all the information and lied on patient count and his experience. He emailed he performed 600 bone segments. Come to find out I was third tibia patient. One of his patient told me in Spain everyone lies. His manipulates deliberately and black mailed his patient to write good things about him and defend him as often as necessary. You cannot trust this doctor and his patient specially from Spain!!!
2)   Unethical: If you are not honest than you do not have ethics. Especially in this profession you want to go to doctor who respects patient rights, if something is not right than let the patient know and possible solution to fix. Just not to say everything will be ok. You need more time.
3)   Poor Osteotomy: Most of his patient has issue with callous formation. Interesting part is all of the patient with few exceptions are lengthening less than 6cm. Still have poor bone formation. I have both fibula and tibia non-union and misalignment. Grafted both and I gained only 5.3com. I thought I did 6 but the x-ray show 5.3com.
4)   Poor logistics: When I had my surgery I was in recovery room for long time. He could not find me and went home without meeting me in person. He later phoned me to say everything went ok. They forgot to put catheter and I did not pee for long time. I screamed and used profanity to get attention at the hospital. The epidural was not turned on and I was in pain for long time. Nursed blamed me tempering with epidural and told monegal I shut it off.
5)   Pain management: I was in 10/10 pain level during first night. The worst pain of my life. Nurses and caretaker does not know how to manage pain. Their respond will be ‘that is normal’. On my last two surgery my pain level never went more than 2/3.
6)   Fibula bone: For monegal fibula bone is not important and ok to have non-union. Even mentioned he can take fibula bone put some place else for bone lengthening while I was in Spain. Fibula is sort of extra bone put in reserve. Such a stupid comment coming from surgeon. His action is not to do anything regarding my fibula non-union.
7)   Forum: He is using forum to fish new patient and anyone raised flag he tries to shut him off either by himself or through his patient. He gets mad to his patient if anyone writes bad thing and continuously monitor forum thread. He probably spends more time in forum than any of us out here.
   His Patients: most of his patients are good people by heart. We all come from same height neurosis industry and wanting to get taller. I feel forum is fraternity to support each other. This doctor is exploiting forum to his advantage. We need to stop him. I am still in contact with few of them. They need him to fix the issue, correct whatever complication and have to oblige whatever he asks them to write. I would not be surprised if few of his patients come to this thread and try to defend him.
9)   Complication: Almost all of his patient has some complications. Many of them cannot walk without crutches. Complications includes but not limited to premature fitbone fracture, fitbone malfunctions, loose screws, serious nerve issue, misalignment and unkown. Unknown are other complications which patient does not know because they have not seen other LL specialist.

[Datum]

What Cooper said is 100% true.

I can confirm there are many 2014 2015 and 2016 patients with many surgeries and complications.

About Longhairgirl I don't know anything nor my sources. I don't know if she tells the truth but I must be fair and tell you that my sources don't know anything. I think the doctor is dishonest and unethical but I don't know anything about that story. I'm fair, not the bad troll you say I'm.

Longhairgirl pm me and tell me.

Cooper's nightmare with Dr. Monegal: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=2454.msg51176#msg51176

Monegal Issues:
1)   Dishonest: He did not disclose all the information and lied on patient count and his experience. He emailed he performed 600 bone segments. Come to find out I was third tibia patient. One of his patient told me in Spain everyone lies. His manipulates deliberately and black mailed his patient to write good things about him and defend him as often as necessary. You cannot trust this doctor and his patient specially from Spain!!!
2)   Unethical: If you are not honest than you do not have ethics. Especially in this profession you want to go to doctor who respects patient rights, if something is not right than let the patient know and possible solution to fix. Just not to say everything will be ok. You need more time.
3)   Poor Osteotomy: Most of his patient has issue with callous formation. Interesting part is all of the patient with few exceptions are lengthening less than 6cm. Still have poor bone formation. I have both fibula and tibia non-union and misalignment. Grafted both and I gained only 5.3com. I thought I did 6 but the x-ray show 5.3com.
4)   Poor logistics: When I had my surgery I was in recovery room for long time. He could not find me and went home without meeting me in person. He later phoned me to say everything went ok. They forgot to put catheter and I did not pee for long time. I screamed and used profanity to get attention at the hospital. The epidural was not turned on and I was in pain for long time. Nursed blamed me tempering with epidural and told monegal I shut it off.
5)   Pain management: I was in 10/10 pain level during first night. The worst pain of my life. Nurses and caretaker does not know how to manage pain. Their respond will be ‘that is normal’. On my last two surgery my pain level never went more than 2/3.
6)   Fibula bone: For monegal fibula bone is not important and ok to have non-union. Even mentioned he can take fibula bone put some place else for bone lengthening while I was in Spain. Fibula is sort of extra bone put in reserve. Such a stupid comment coming from surgeon. His action is not to do anything regarding my fibula non-union.
7)   Forum: He is using forum to fish new patient and anyone raised flag he tries to shut him off either by himself or through his patient. He gets mad to his patient if anyone writes bad thing and continuously monitor forum thread. He probably spends more time in forum than any of us out here.
   His Patients: most of his patients are good people by heart. We all come from same height neurosis industry and wanting to get taller. I feel forum is fraternity to support each other. This doctor is exploiting forum to his advantage. We need to stop him. I am still in contact with few of them. They need him to fix the issue, correct whatever complication and have to oblige whatever he asks them to write. I would not be surprised if few of his patients come to this thread and try to defend him.
9)   Complication: Almost all of his patient has some complications. Many of them cannot walk without crutches. Complications includes but not limited to premature fitbone fracture, fitbone malfunctions, loose screws, serious nerve issue, misalignment and unkown. Unknown are other complications which patient does not know because they have not seen other LL specialist.

Cooper's nightmare with Dr. Monegal: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=2454.msg51176#msg51176

Monegal Issues:
1)   Dishonest: He did not disclose all the information and lied on patient count and his experience. He emailed he performed 600 bone segments. Come to find out I was third tibia patient. One of his patient told me in Spain everyone lies. His manipulates deliberately and black mailed his patient to write good things about him and defend him as often as necessary. You cannot trust this doctor and his patient specially from Spain!!!
2)   Unethical: If you are not honest than you do not have ethics. Especially in this profession you want to go to doctor who respects patient rights, if something is not right than let the patient know and possible solution to fix. Just not to say everything will be ok. You need more time.
3)   Poor Osteotomy: Most of his patient has issue with callous formation. Interesting part is all of the patient with few exceptions are lengthening less than 6cm. Still have poor bone formation. I have both fibula and tibia non-union and misalignment. Grafted both and I gained only 5.3com. I thought I did 6 but the x-ray show 5.3com.
4)   Poor logistics: When I had my surgery I was in recovery room for long time. He could not find me and went home without meeting me in person. He later phoned me to say everything went ok. They forgot to put catheter and I did not pee for long time. I screamed and used profanity to get attention at the hospital. The epidural was not turned on and I was in pain for long time. Nursed blamed me tempering with epidural and told monegal I shut it off.
5)   Pain management: I was in 10/10 pain level during first night. The worst pain of my life. Nurses and caretaker does not know how to manage pain. Their respond will be ‘that is normal’. On my last two surgery my pain level never went more than 2/3.
6)   Fibula bone: For monegal fibula bone is not important and ok to have non-union. Even mentioned he can take fibula bone put some place else for bone lengthening while I was in Spain. Fibula is sort of extra bone put in reserve. Such a stupid comment coming from surgeon. His action is not to do anything regarding my fibula non-union.
7)   Forum: He is using forum to fish new patient and anyone raised flag he tries to shut him off either by himself or through his patient. He gets mad to his patient if anyone writes bad thing and continuously monitor forum thread. He probably spends more time in forum than any of us out here.
   His Patients: most of his patients are good people by heart. We all come from same height neurosis industry and wanting to get taller. I feel forum is fraternity to support each other. This doctor is exploiting forum to his advantage. We need to stop him. I am still in contact with few of them. They need him to fix the issue, correct whatever complication and have to oblige whatever he asks them to write. I would not be surprised if few of his patients come to this thread and try to defend him.
9)   Complication: Almost all of his patient has some complications. Many of them cannot walk without crutches. Complications includes but not limited to premature fitbone fracture, fitbone malfunctions, loose screws, serious nerve issue, misalignment and unkown. Unknown are other complications which patient does not know because they have not seen other LL specialist.

[U only live once]

Your not a fake account your just a dumb ass.  Give me a call, I'm at tthe MICs. apt. 4.7.  For some reason I don;t hear any ringing.

Hey buddy,

I am a future monegal's patient , will you be there on the 18 of Sep?

All the best!

[Bander72]

This is frankly disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself. Mods, please, ban this user.

Cmon you know you got a kick out of seeing that.

[tallernacho]

As a Monegal patient, I appreciate him for his  caring and dedication to his patients.
 I find it disgusting that troll accounts are created to difame him without any proof (falsehoods that can even be exposed) . Posts like this should be deleted and the user banned.
Monegal has been on vacation in August and I was in July for the most part of the month at MIC and didn't meet any female patient. This story is completely made up.

[Bander72]

As a Monegal patient, I appreciate him for his  caring and dedication to his patients.
 I find it disgusting that troll accounts are created to difame him without any proof (falsehoods that can even be exposed) . Posts like this should be deleted and the user banned.
Monegal has been on vacation in August and I was in July for the most part of the month at MIC and didn't meet any female patient. This story is completely made up.

Another mongeal patient you guys appear like rabbits. This is gonna turn into a civil war on the forum.

[LongHairGirl]

I should have mentioned in my first post that several of the patients I spoke with said that Dr. Monegal constantly monitors this forum in an obsessive way. They said Dr. Monegal threatens patients who say they are going to write about their complications and lack of quality care on the forum, while forcing patients to post positive information about him. Looking at all the posts from people who claim to be patients of Dr. Monegal, I think a lot of them are Dr. Monegal himself, and the way they go completely over the top in promoting him should be a huge red flag for everyone.



Do Not Have Surgery With The Butcher From Barcelona

No Tiene Cirugía Con El Carnicero De Barcelona

[Cloudo]

The Butcher From Barcelona

Nice one, gave me a chuckle. I like it 

Btw, this forum should be renamed MonegalShamingForum, msf

[Datum]

Who

[Ozymandias]

No Tiene Cirugía Con...

Epic google translate fail.

It reminds me of when Lluser (a.k.a. Datum a.k.a. realpatient a.k.a. Lgazer a.k.a. adviser4ll, etc etc) was trying to scare Spanish ladies on some other website using his "awesome" google translate skills: "No es fitbone bueno. No es fitbone bueno..." But hey, maybe it is a coincidence.


Now on a serious side, this forum has gone to crap.

[TIBIKE200]

Amazing job moderators... Amazing

[google42]

Now on a serious side, this forum has gone to crap.

All The drama will probably settle down in a few days.

[YourSpaceBoyfriend]

Another day, another monegal drama.

[Datum]

Google Translate is very POPULAR! 

Longhairlady can't prove what she says. My sources don't know about those patients (male and female). I asked her and she didn't reply. I think that story is a FAKE.

My sources don't know Tallernacho. Tallernacho can be a patient but he LIES  because Musicmaker was MICS and he says there weren't females at MICS in July. He says Monegal was on holiday in August but Neverland posted she visited him in August. Tallernacho LIES.

My conclusion is LONGHAIRLADY AND TALLERNACHO LIE.

[Auron]

I don't know who is tallornacho, even so, let me troll the troll a bit...

Tallernacho can be a patient but he LIES  because Musicmaker was MICS and he says there weren't females at MICS in July.

He said he didn't meet any female patients while there and it can very well be true. He never said there were no females patients at mics.

He says Monegal was on holiday in August but Neverland posted she visited him in August. Tallernacho LIES.

Monegal was on holidays in August, however, he was able to meet Neverland. Why? Because even on holidays he took that day to meet his patients needs.

Suck it up troll. 

[patientprivacy]

I should have mentioned in my first post that several of the patients I spoke with said that Dr. Monegal constantly monitors this forum in an obsessive way. They said Dr. Monegal threatens patients who say they are going to write about their complications and lack of quality care on the forum, while forcing patients to post positive information about him. Looking at all the posts from people who claim to be patients of Dr. Monegal, I think a lot of them are Dr. Monegal himself, and the way they go completely over the top in promoting him should be a huge red flag for everyone.



Do Not Have Surgery With The Butcher From Barcelona

No Tiene Cirugía Con El Carnicero De Barcelona

As I said before, these banners are wholly disgusting. You're a fking scumbag. What's wrong with you? Your first claims are slanderous... and the last one is pure LLuser style. Did you run out of arguments and had to copy the bull  claims from our dearest troll? You're rotten from within. We don't need anymore of you. If you don't post proofs, you should be banned.

[Datum]

I don't know who is tallornacho, even so, let me troll the troll a bit...
He said he didn't meet any female patients while there and it can very well be true. He never said there were no females patients at mics.
Monegal was on holidays in August, however, he was able to meet Neverland. Why? Because even on holidays he took that day to meet his patients needs.

Suck it up troll.

You mean fishing new patients and more money... He didn't pay attention to current patients like Crimsontide when they talked to him. Crimsontide offered to post screenshots. I trust him.

It's wonderful you saw Monegal on the 14th

Monegal  was supposed to remove my rod a while back and  keeps telling me he is on vacation until September. 

So nice to hear he saw YOU though

[Auron]

You mean fishing new patients and more money... He didn't pay attention to current patients like Crimsontide when they talked to him. Crimsontide offered to post screenshots. I trust him.

Who the hell operates while on vacations? He took that day off vacations to meet his patients, not to do a major surgery. Get real dude.

[patientprivacy]

A part from MM, there are no female patients or residents doing CLL (confirmed with MIC).
Only female visitor (potential patient/not patient) at MIC in the last year was the 'multiple account holder' #Neverland #Summerbreeze...#Longhairlady???

As Helloworld and others suggested, people with psychiatric issues should not be considered as potential patients, specially for cosmetic CLL.

Neverland isn't a patient. She is a potential patient/not patient. Cinderella was very clear. A very smart lady.

[LLSouthAmerica]

Isn't it about time to stop this circus?

[onemorefoot]

Isn't it about time to stop this circus?

Yes, I am getting tired of this crap, new people can get confused