Topic: Dr Dimitrios Giotikas (Athens, Greece) (Read 103026 times)

lalo510 · « **Reply #93 on:** January 29, 2019, 02:48:57 PM »

Please ask him the most important questions in my opinion.

How many precice 2 did he "install"?
How many complications did he have? Broken nails?
How does he react to complications?

wannagrowtaller · « **Reply #94 on:** January 29, 2019, 03:48:15 PM »

wannagrowtaller · « **Reply #95 on:** February 02, 2019, 12:50:01 PM »

https://www.athensbjr.com/cost-and-pricing-of-cosmetic-limb-lengthening.html
New prices.

wannagrowtaller · « **Reply #96 on:** February 04, 2019, 02:43:11 PM »

Dr Giotikas didn't accept me as patient because I'm overweight (80kg, 1,65m), I smoke and I may have Body Dysmorphic Disorder
(BDD), so the surgery would not help me. He said if I lose weight and stop smoking for 6 months I may be a candidate.

BladeRunner · « **Reply #97 on:** February 04, 2019, 05:11:11 PM »

Quote from: wannagrowtaller on February 04, 2019, 02:43:11 PM

Dr Giotikas didn't accept me as patient because I'm overweight (80kg, 1,65m), I smoke and I may have Body Dysmorphic Disorder
(BDD), so the surgery would not help me. He said if I lose weight and stop smoking for 6 months I may be a candidate.

I think this shows the surgeon is a very responsible person. Other CLL surgeons would accept you as patient even knowing these issues.

I suggest you use this a motivation to slim down. Hit the cardio. Eat less. Eat healthy. Start with E-cigarette and try to taper off slowly.

Also remember that, dont blame your height for all your failures. What if you do LL and find out nothing much has changed? blame face, nose, hair or something else? then surgery for that too.
Its an endless rabbit hole.

I know this forum is very pro-LL but some people here have obvious BDD and blames height for everything. Life is not like that.

wannagrowtaller · « **Reply #98 on:** February 04, 2019, 11:38:34 PM »

I want him to be my doctor.

raku · « **Reply #99 on:** February 06, 2019, 03:35:59 AM »

Quote from: wannagrowtaller on February 04, 2019, 11:38:34 PM

I want him to be my doctor.

I appreciate your sharing your condition with Dr. Giotikas. Hope you succeed being a candidate in the future. Do you considering TSF (pure external)in tibia? In my memory it maybe can support your weight.(not sure) Maybe the smoking problem matter more but you should also struggle for diet definitely.

wannagrowtaller · « **Reply #100 on:** February 06, 2019, 11:34:22 AM »

Quote from: raku on February 06, 2019, 03:35:59 AM

I appreciate your sharing your condition with Dr. Giotikas. Hope you succeed being a candidate in the future. Do you considering TSF (pure external)in tibia? In my memory it maybe can support your weight.(not sure) Maybe the smoking problem matter more but you should also struggle for diet definitely.

I'm doing a treatment to stop smoke and I'll lose weight, there is no problem there.

I consider doing quadrilateral first in the left leg and than the right, with stryde on femur and tsf on tibia. My "ideal" goal would be 8cm on femur and 7cm on tibia. My minimal goal would be 6cm on femur and 4 cm on tibia.

raku · « **Reply #101 on:** February 06, 2019, 12:26:16 PM »

Quote from: wannagrowtaller on February 06, 2019, 11:34:22 AM

I'm doing a treatment to stop smoke and I'll lose weight, there is no problem there.

I consider doing quadrilateral first in the left leg and than the right, with stryde on femur and tsf on tibia. My "ideal" goal would be 8cm on femur and 7cm on tibia. My minimal goal would be 6cm on femur and 4 cm on tibia.

Cool. Your goal is reasonable. At least 10 and listen your body. But 15cm is Extreme maybe 13 would be great. Anyway Hope you could be a candidate and make your dream come true. Femur tibia patients is really seldom in this forum. I think many people including me hope witness your secession.

otavio · « **Reply #102 on:** March 09, 2019, 06:11:23 PM »

Is there a minimum height that Dimitrios consider to operate some candidate . I am 178cm and I want to do it

Leggs · « **Reply #103 on:** March 17, 2019, 01:00:27 PM »

Dr. Giotikas is scheduled to implant his first STRYDE nail by the end of the month.

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wannagrowtaller · « **Reply #104 on:** March 17, 2019, 10:21:28 PM »

Who will be the patient? Trauma or cosmetic?

Planning · « **Reply #105 on:** March 30, 2019, 01:34:32 PM »

Hi guys! Thank you so so much for this forum! I have learned a lot reading it for days!
And I am sure I still have lots to learn!
I’m planning to have a consultation with Dr. Dimitrios soon.
Very interested on the stryde
But I wish someone could write a diary about it. I understand it’s too early as he didn’t perform many surgeries with STRYDE.. but maybe I will be the first one to write it if I do it..
I was so confused in the beginning.. I thought about Betz or russian doctors..
I was lost.. thank you everyone for all your feedbacks..
I feel that dr dimitrios is the right one for me.
I will do my best to write a simple and informative diary and I hope I can help people as you all helped me in taking my decision! Thank you!

Meanwhile, if anyone had a STRYDE with Dr. Dimitrios, it would be great to read your diary

james2334 · « **Reply #106 on:** April 03, 2019, 10:55:02 AM »

I am also considering surgery with giotikas this summer. He seems to handle not only TSF but also LON. It can reduce the length of stay to 3 months. He is a very nice doctor. However, he has little experience with the LON method. Only one patient who is currently using the LON method has been confirmed. What do you think about the LON method?

wannagrowtaller · « **Reply #107 on:** April 03, 2019, 06:49:03 PM »

I think you are safe doing LON with Giotikas.

dinozzo · « **Reply #108 on:** April 03, 2019, 08:19:25 PM »

That's even cheaper than turky for precice and stryde wow!

wavemaker5 · « **Reply #109 on:** April 03, 2019, 08:49:28 PM »

Has he said anything on long-term knee pain from the stryde nail when its installed in tibias? I imagine if they cut open your knee long term knee pain is inevitable and I'd rather just do TSF in that case

otavio · « **Reply #110 on:** April 03, 2019, 09:27:53 PM »

what is the maximum height that he accepts someone as candidate as LL? I am 178cm tall but I want to do it next year. In my country,the average height is 181 cm . I have height dysphoria, when I see someone more tall than me I feel myself as inferior and it 0nly can be solve with LL. Being 185cm tall, I think that my issues with height probably go away forever.

Leggs · « **Reply #111 on:** May 05, 2019, 12:46:10 PM »

The Euro has been weakening against the U.S. Dollar. This is bringing down the cost of surgery with Dr. Giotikas if you are converting from U.S. Dollars to Euro.

The current U.S. Dollar price of femur lengthening with Dr. Giotikas using STRYDE is $49,000 including physical therapy. This is the cheapest price anywhere in the world.

For current updated pricing with Dr. Giotikas and all doctors around the world offering STRYDE click here: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=9734.msg140491#msg140491

jievince3 · « **Reply #112 on:** May 05, 2019, 02:00:45 PM »

No limit to height.

sylar94 · « **Reply #113 on:** May 12, 2019, 12:43:01 AM »

Quote from: Android on April 26, 2018, 04:50:53 AM

I haven't seen it advertised as an option anywhere else. Though using TSF, it seems to be classic Ilizarov without LON/LATN (needs confirmation).

TSF and Ilizarov frames are different.
You can find a comparison here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4181081/

wannagrowtaller · « **Reply #114 on:** May 16, 2019, 10:12:46 AM »

Announcement: Price list Changes from September 2019

At Athens BJR, we are planning an approximate 4.5% increase on the prices of our services. The new price list will come into effect on Monday 2nd September 2019.

The price list at Athens BJR has remained unchanged for more than two years. This increase was deemed necessary in order to adjust the prices to the increased demand for our services and the national inflation.

At Athens BJR we always abide to our philosophy to provide "Care Affordable to the Many"

This three month notice is in accordance with our standards for transparent financial arrangements. Below you can see the new price list:

Femoral lengthening with STRYDE nails: 45745 Euro
Femoral lengthening with Precise-2 nails: 38610 Euro

Tibia lengthening with STRYDE nails: 47835 Euro
Tibia lengthening with Precise-2 nails: 40700 Euro
Tibia lengthening with TSF (Smith & Nephew) circular frames: 23615 Euro

Four segment lengthening in two stages. The second stage is scheduled at least three weeks after the first stage.
Femurs and tibias with STRYDE nails: 90445 Euro
Femurs with STRYDE and tibias with TSF frames: 65650 Euro

What is included in the above prices:
Pre-operative and post-operative blood tests
Post-operative x-rays
Full board hospital stay for 4 nights in two bed bedroom
Peri- and post-operative medications
Anaesthetist's fees
Surgeon's fee
Surgical assistant's fee
Implants
Soft tissue procedures (tendon or IT band releases) which will be performed at the same setting with the main operation
In-hospital physiotherapy until discharge
Crutches and wheelchair
Post-operative (after discharge) physiotherapy

What is NOT included
Accommodation in Athens.
Travel expenses to and from Athens.
Transportations in Athens.
Food and other supplies during your stay in Athens.
Entertainment and/or Internet costs.
Home health aides (nurses, homemakers, etc.).

champion90 · « **Reply #115 on:** May 17, 2019, 04:58:27 PM »

Someone could tell me if once the dr. Giotikas validates the surgery how long does it go? If there is a waiting list or if, being a private transaction, the customer can decide based on his planned commitments which day to choose? thank you

third_world · « **Reply #116 on:** May 19, 2019, 06:44:12 PM »

Greece is ok but still not a very good Europe country. Consider only top countries of the world if you can.

Activatedx · « **Reply #117 on:** May 30, 2019, 07:35:41 AM »

Why is it that he has no photos of cll patients? And how is he even beating or being near same as India’s price for stryde

I want to book with him in 2020 but I feel as if his prices are a little too good

heightconsultant · « **Reply #118 on:** May 30, 2019, 10:42:12 AM »

Has anybody already been operated by him with Stryde method for mentioned prices? Just a pair of Stryde nails only cost around that much

sylar94 · « **Reply #119 on:** May 30, 2019, 03:41:26 PM »

Quote from: heightconsultant on May 30, 2019, 10:42:12 AM

Has anybody already been operated by him with Stryde method for mentioned prices? Just a pair of Stryde nails only cost around that much

Where can you find the price of Stryde nails?

azman · « **Reply #120 on:** May 30, 2019, 10:25:50 PM »

01. Attached you can find the referral letter for the x-rays. You don't need to do any blood tests prior your arrival to Greece.
02. Attached you can find the pre-operative muscle stretching program.
03. Yes, "ATH" Athens International Airport, Greece is the the correct airport to fly to.
04. Below you can see the breakdown of costs:

Femurs August 2019 Cost Breakdown:
Deposit for booking:300 euro (non refundable*)
Mediterraneo hospital cost: 2600 euro
Femoral Stryde nails: 27825 euro
Rest of package services (see what is included): 13050 euro
Total:43775 euro

Tibias August 2020 Cost Breakdown**:
Deposit for booking:300 euro (non refundable)
Mediterraneo hospital cost: 2600 euro
Tibial Stryde nails: 27825
Rest of package services (see what is included): 12050
Total:42775 euro

* All payments are fully refundable unless otherwise stated (except possible bank transfer costs) in the case of cancellation of surgery for any reason.
** For this quote (August 2020) to be secured the deposit for booking must be paid before 2nd September 2019, due to a scheduled increase in prices.
We remain at your disposal for any further information and assistance.

Kind regards
Athens BJR secretariat, on behalf of
Dimitrios Giotikas, MD, PhD
Clinical Director
Consultant Trauma & Orthopaedics Surgeon

Activatedx · « **Reply #121 on:** May 30, 2019, 10:59:05 PM »

Quote from: azman on May 30, 2019, 10:25:50 PM

01. Attached you can find the referral letter for the x-rays. You don't need to do any blood tests prior your arrival to Greece.
02. Attached you can find the pre-operative muscle stretching program.
03. Yes, "ATH" Athens International Airport, Greece is the the correct airport to fly to.
04. Below you can see the breakdown of costs:

Femurs August 2019 Cost Breakdown:
Deposit for booking:300 euro (non refundable*)
Mediterraneo hospital cost: 2600 euro
Femoral Stryde nails: 27825 euro
Rest of package services (see what is included): 13050 euro
Total:43775 euro

Tibias August 2020 Cost Breakdown**:
Deposit for booking:300 euro (non refundable)
Mediterraneo hospital cost: 2600 euro
Tibial Stryde nails: 27825
Rest of package services (see what is included): 12050
Total:42775 euro

* All payments are fully refundable unless otherwise stated (except possible bank transfer costs) in the case of cancellation of surgery for any reason.
** For this quote (August 2020) to be secured the deposit for booking must be paid before 2nd September 2019, due to a scheduled increase in prices.
We remain at your disposal for any further information and assistance.

Kind regards
Athens BJR secretariat, on behalf of
Dimitrios Giotikas, MD, PhD
Clinical Director
Consultant Trauma & Orthopaedics Surgeon

This does not make sense because I emailed the hospital and their hospital fees is 16 thousand. But this was for quad, so maybe it’s less than that... I don’t know seems weird, I probably will wait until I see at least 2-3 genuine diaries from him

sylar94 · « **Reply #122 on:** June 01, 2019, 10:32:18 PM »

how much work experience does Giotikas have?
he seems quite young and just recently became a PhD
you cant compare him with Solomin who got his PhD in 1992

cobalt · « **Reply #123 on:** June 14, 2019, 10:14:16 PM »

I believe Dr. Giotikas is an underrated doctor. He is a consultant trauma surgeon showing he has extensive education and training to be in this position. He has also done research in minimally invasive knee techniques and has a permanent post in the NHS system so if those residing in Europe, he is probably the better option for them in case things go wrong. Here are videos of him performing Precice surgeries. In my own personal research, I believe Paley/Rozbruch are the best surgeons in the America, Dr. Donghoon in Asia, and it is a possibility Giotikas may be the best in Europe. His pts have not face any functional complications thus far. Good surgery technique, follow-up with patient, has good philosophy, ethics, and responsibility towards patient.

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