but I think that there is a way to overcome the fear mode survival instinct by laughing at shortcomings 
nice phrasing... whatever works for you my friend..
But I advice people(man) to stop the use of the word neurosis if you are considerably shorter than the average in your country(<170cm). Because in that case you have no neurosis! You just have been dealt a bad hand. It sucks to be short. That does not mean that you cannot be happy... The other way around is almost always true.. Wherever you live, if you are 180cm+ and still obsessed with your height, than most probably CLL will not cure your obsession
Not to totally derail the thread, but that's one of the more interesting debates that I haven't seen more discussed in these forums. Height, if you speak in general terms, is both subjective and objective. It was funny, but I saw a member here who was 180cm+ arguing 168cm isn't "short", giving the example of life in the Philippines. He was using that viewpoint to defend his own height neurosis and his own search for CLL, as the shortest member of a tall family in a tall country. He was arguing against a shorter member of the forums who was saying he couldn't truly understand what life for short men was due to his objectively way above world average height. Both of the posts contained true statements, though... Most men in these forums seem to be around 5'5 (165cm), give or take an inch, so technically this is a forum full of people who aren't "short", and actually above average,
if we restricted the argument to the country of Laos. Honore, I think you were 167cm, so 7cm over the average for men in Laos. Tall guy! However, height is also an objective measurement, so Laos is also the country with the shortest average height for men in the whole world. That's objectively short in our own species. However, that taller member of the forums was measurably tall, if you go by the world average, but shortish in his main social circle (his family). Was he "wrong" to feel the way he did, despite his subjective experience of life? Should he accept he is tall in comparison to the rest of the world, and forget his own height neurosis?
Anyway, the way I see it, there's many types of short:
Objectively short: below the worldwide average for your gender.
Short relative to your country: short or below average for the country you live in.
Short relative to your own ethnic group: maybe average or above average compared to most of the population around you, but below average of that of your own ethnic group, maybe even decently so. Generally happens only in some multi-ethnic SEA countries and certain cities of the Americas.
Short relative to your family: only short within their own family, generally average or slightly above average in their own society.
While I think all can trigger height dysphoria and neurosis, the posters in the last group (granted they're also not member of some other one) seem to be more able to quickly forget about the existence of this forum and stop their posting here.
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