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jem_semarc

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Was the pain as you expected or more?
« on: May 23, 2020, 02:02:31 PM »

I’m referring to internal methods I.e. Stryde or precise. Everyone knows how painful the LL procedure is, but do they?

Like, how painful is it really? Before going into the surgery, did you expect that much pain or was it a new sort of unbearable pain that you’d never get before?

A lot of people do say 10/10 pains do occur at times during the LL procedure but I’d just like to know what that means. 
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Re: Was the pain as you expected or more?
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2020, 01:21:16 AM »

Supposedly 10/10 pain is so extreme that most people pass out.  Most lengtheners I talked to maybe got to a 7 or an 8 at most.

Check out this chart:

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Re: Was the pain as you expected or more?
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2020, 03:19:27 AM »

There were definitely times the pain almost made me pass out. First week after surgery, I got home and tried to go poop, I couldn’t sit on the commode due to surgery trauma and I started sweating and it was an awful time. Going to the bathroom was honestly the worst part of this.

Although there were times pain levels got out of control, after the first 3-4 weeks you should be fine.

Imagine a nagging tooth pain that just won’t go away, but in your leg. That’s honestly what it felt like for me
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Re: Was the pain as you expected or more?
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2020, 10:53:32 AM »

Was the pain that bad when you were on painkillers or after?
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Re: Was the pain as you expected or more?
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2020, 03:11:10 PM »

I will put it at moderate. Some nights you wont be able to sleep till 3am in the morning, but it feels more like uncomforted than pain tbh, and it always happen during night time when you are most aware of it. During day time, there was no pain for me. I have had toothache that much worse than that.


Its also worth noting that I did internal method, so I cannot speak for those who have a frame on.
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Re: Was the pain as you expected or more?
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2020, 03:16:11 PM »

I did internals too, and my pain level never went beyond about a 5/10, but everybody else I knew reported worse pain than me, so I would not use my experience as a gauge.
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Re: Was the pain as you expected or more?
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2020, 12:37:48 AM »

What methods did you use to keep the pain on that level? Pills? Distractions?
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Re: Was the pain as you expected or more?
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2020, 04:21:15 AM »

I’m referring to internal methods I.e. Stryde or precise. Everyone knows how painful the LL procedure is, but do they?

Like, how painful is it really? Before going into the surgery, did you expect that much pain or was it a new sort of unbearable pain that you’d never get before?

A lot of people do say 10/10 pains do occur at times during the LL procedure but I’d just like to know what that means.

My pain level was absurdly higher than I expected. Considering that i was (and still am) very fit and very flexible (I could easily put my feet behind my head) I thought it would be a breeze. But it wasn't. Until around 3cm to 4cm I had horrible adductor pain, something that apparently is only common with muscular patients. I was taking Tramadol in the beginning but soon I had to switch to an opiod (Valoron)

From there to 7cm was much better but I still had to take painkillers the whole time. From 7cm to 10cm it was really hard. I had some horrible nerve pain from 7cm to 8,5cm I think, I had to go to the hospital because of that and take another medicine for nerve pain (Lyrica). For the  last cm the pain was REALLY excruciating and I had to space one day of clicking to two or three days of not clicking.

Overall, my pain level was much higher than most of the other patients around me. On the other hand I didn't have some problems that almost everyone had, like wide legs and my recovery was pretty great.
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Re: Was the pain as you expected or more?
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2020, 07:06:46 AM »

My pain level was absurdly higher than I expected. Considering that i was (and still am) very fit and very flexible (I could easily put my feet behind my head) I thought it would be a breeze. But it wasn't. Until around 3cm to 4cm I had horrible adductor pain, something that apparently is only common with muscular patients. I was taking Tramadol in the beginning but soon I had to switch to an opiod (Valoron)

From there to 7cm was much better but I still had to take painkillers the whole time. From 7cm to 10cm it was really hard. I had some horrible nerve pain from 7cm to 8,5cm I think, I had to go to the hospital because of that and take another medicine for nerve pain (Lyrica). For the  last cm the pain was REALLY excruciating and I had to space one day of clicking to two or three days of not clicking.

Overall, my pain level was much higher than most of the other patients around me. On the other hand I didn't have some problems that almost everyone had, like wide legs and my recovery was pretty great.
How fit were you? What would your weekly activities consist of and how many times? Just trying to get a better understanding.
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Re: Was the pain as you expected or more?
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2020, 10:55:25 PM »

How fit were you? What would your weekly activities consist of and how many times? Just trying to get a better understanding.

I was way above average in fitness level than the average Betz patient.
There was only two patients that were in my fitness level or better at that time: a martial-artist and a female dancer.
I've being weightlifting since I was 16 years old and I was in the top of my game when I did LL.
My flexibility was also above average, thanks to genetics and years of practicing yoga and some martial-arts.
I could literally put my two feet behind my head with pants, easily touch the ground with my palms, etc...).
My daily routine in Germany at the Park Hotel was something like (keep in mind the hotel had a Gym/Physiotherapy center in it):
1) Breakfast
2) Exercise: Recumbent Bike (40min), Treadmill and Stretching
3) Physiotherapy
4) Clicking (that's how you grow with Betzbone, twisting the leg)
5) Rest
6) Lunch
7) Walk in the park in front of the hotel (with crutches), around 40min
8) Rest
9) Dinner

Anyway, the main point is that even if you're super fit and flexible you can still have lots of pain, excruciating pain.
You'll never know how your body will react.
But my recovery was great, 100%, so I'm not complaining.
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Re: Was the pain as you expected or more?
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2020, 11:11:31 PM »

I was way above average in fitness level than the average Betz patient.
There was only two patients that were in my fitness level or better at that time: a martial-artist and a female dancer.
I've being weightlifting since I was 16 years old and I was in the top of my game when I did LL.
My flexibility was also above average, thanks to genetics and years of practicing yoga and some martial-arts.
I could literally put my two feet behind my head with pants, easily touch the ground with my palms, etc...).
My daily routine in Germany at the Park Hotel was something like (keep in mind the hotel had a Gym/Physiotherapy center in it):
1) Breakfast
2) Exercise: Recumbent Bike (40min), Treadmill and Stretching
3) Physiotherapy
4) Clicking (that's how you grow with Betzbone, twisting the leg)
5) Rest
6) Lunch
7) Walk in the park in front of the hotel (with crutches), around 40min
8) Rest
9) Dinner

Anyway, the main point is that even if you're super fit and flexible you can still have lots of pain, excruciating pain.
You'll never know how your body will react.
But my recovery was great, 100%, so I'm not complaining.
I see! I appreciate the detail.

I guess you’re right about each person reacting differently, one just has to make sure they are in the best shape possible to give them the best possible advantage I guess.

It really seems like a hotel that is suitable for LL patients seems like the way to do this. I mean, it sounds much better than an air bnb. More socialising, variety of food, cleaners, gym and much more. Why doesn’t everyone just go to a recommended hotel? Or does it work different in the States?

It’s amazing that you’ve recovered 100%, it’s a dream for me lol. I’m going to go ahead with the op early next year and I will have now until then to prepare myself and get in even more shape than what I am! Oh yeah, become flexible too :)
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Re: Was the pain as you expected or more?
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2020, 08:28:16 PM »

i personally think pain will be less for tibias than femurs
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Re: Was the pain as you expected or more?
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2020, 10:57:08 PM »

Interesting! I’ve heard Femurs to be less but I guess everyone’s pain tolerance in different areas are not the same.
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