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[Astronomy]

I discovered both overseas netizens and Chinese netizens are prone to bragging and boosting their individual heights and average heights in certain region or even whole country.

Such as '6'3 is normal in Minnesota' or '185cm is normal as a 12 Chinese pupil'.

Nowadays you can discover more and more annoucnements like these in nearly all websites.And I found one thing,women are placing more and more emphasis on men's heights and less and less on men's properties and appearances,even characters.

Dunno what is reinforcing this false view of men's values but that's a true fact can be witnessed by us.

[daikioni]

Move these kind of posts to reddit. I see your post history and you whine all the  time about everything.

[RB]

Mate you need to stop fixating on things like this. You are driving yourself crazy. Yes, things are bad for short men but you make it seem like everything bad that’s happened to you is a result of being short when that’s simply not the case. This forum gets more and more ridiculous every day.

[Astronomy]

Move these kind of posts to reddit. I see your post history and you whine all the  time about everything.

Some of threads are talking about the same things but in this forum I can't delete my thread myself

[Astronomy]

Mate you need to stop fixating on things like this. You are driving yourself crazy. Yes, things are bad for short men but you make it seem like everything bad that’s happened to you is a result of being short when that’s simply not the case. This forum gets more and more ridiculous every day.

I firmly feel every patient under -2SD of average height has got the feeling like mine and almost every LL patient is suffering from height dysphoria.Otherwise why patients are desiring LL?

[TheDream]

I firmly feel every patient under -2SD of average height has got the feeling like mine and almost every LL patient is suffering from height dysphoria.Otherwise why patients are desiring LL?

You must remember to remain objective on these matters otherwise it can drive you into insanity. A lot of men at -2SD do not suffer from height dysphoria. It is more complicated than that. Certain psychological personality traits probably make you more prone to height dysphoria. Although I am also convinced that most men at -2SD would welcome a boost in height I do not think most men at -2 SD would ever consider doing LL.

[RB]

I firmly feel every patient under -2SD of average height has got the feeling like mine and almost every LL patient is suffering from height dysphoria.Otherwise why patients are desiring LL?

Of course, many of us here have height dysphoria to the point where we break our legs in attempt to resolve it, however you can have height dysphoria but realise that not every bad thing in the world or your life is due to your short stature. Plenty of people our height don’t have height dysphoria so while being well below average height is an undeniable disadvantage, you can’t let it make you think it is the root cause of all problems in your life and fixate on things like Chinese millennial average height every day. Either get LL and move on or decide not to get LL and move on. Otherwise you will be stuck with this mindset for many more years.

[RealLostSoul]

Of course people boost the average height, especially kids and naive teenagers do. What has more credibility all the statistics or teenagers on the internet?
Remember height is actually a medical stat like blood group, so of course medical statistics are accurate.

[Astronomy]

You must remember to remain objective on these matters otherwise it can drive you into insanity. A lot of men at -2SD do not suffer from height dysphoria. It is more complicated than that. Certain psychological personality traits probably make you more prone to height dysphoria. Although I am also convinced that most men at -2SD would welcome a boost in height I do not think most men at -2 SD would ever consider doing LL.

But I think personally as long as men at -2SD are told there is one thing called LL in this planet and even though told complications this surgery will cause,they would like to crowd into surgeons' operating rooms.
Anyway men at -2SD are really suffering from discriminations in any apsect.

[TheDream]

But I think personally as long as men at -2SD are told there is one thing called LL in this planet and even though told complications this surgery will cause,they would like to crowd into surgeons' operating rooms.

Then by simple deduction I can tell you that your sense of reality is warped. If every man with a height of -2 standard deviations would go through with the surgery there would be a lot more activity on this forum.

Almost everyone will hear about the existence of this surgery at some point, but it is few who take the interest to find this forum. Is it worth paying the high financial and physiological price? For most men at -2 standard deviations and below the answer will be no. You, just like I and others on the forum probably have a personality type coupled with negative experiences growing up related to height that makes us answer yes or maybe to the above question.

[Astronomy]

Then by simple deduction I can tell you that your sense of reality is warped. If every man with a height of -2 standard deviations would go through with the surgery there would be a lot more activity on this forum.

Almost everyone will hear about the existence of this surgery at some point, but it is few who take the interest to find this forum. Is it worth paying the high financial and physiological price? For most men at -2 standard deviations and below the answer will be no. You, just like I and others on the forum probably have a personality type coupled with negative experiences growing up related to height that makes us answer yes or maybe to the above question.

I understood.But one thing I can reassure is many -2SD men are really hating their heights just like ugly women hating their appearances.It's out of question,isn't it?And the reason why this forum has not much -2SD men desiring for LL is this forum is not as prevalent as you think.At least in my country I can see many very short men can't kill thier pains from height dysphoria and either for safety(cuz they've only known information about it in 1990's) or lack of money they don't decide to do LL.And some of them are considering to commit suicide(I'm not exaggerating).
Anyway if you've got no good look,good height and good property,dating is just a fairy tale.

[Astronomy]

Of course people boost the average height, especially kids and naive teenagers do. What has more credibility all the statistics or teenagers on the internet?
Remember height is actually a medical stat like blood group, so of course medical statistics are accurate.

I think all over the world people are bragging their heights and regions' average heights.Once I heard a 209cm tall French basterball player said he coulnd't feel tall in Crotian coastal cities and a fking 52 y.o 190cm tall old Dutch male said he was amazed with Dutch millenials' average height and he though he was a dwarf(He said he saw several Dutch millenials towering over him than 20cm+),then I think as a human being,he or she is likely to brag heights.

[Astronomy]

Move these kind of posts to reddit. I see your post history and you whine all the  time about everything.

Reddit now is just home for fairy tales,I think.Even a 155cm tall man can succeed in dating any girl and nobody dare tell the truths.

[BelowTheMean]

Reddit now is just home for fairy tales,I think.Even a 155cm tall man can succeed in dating any girl and nobody dare tell the truths.

Meh, finding a partner isn’t hard. Finding a high quality partner if you don’t have several outstanding attributes is hard.

[Righteous]

Meh, finding a partner isn’t hard. Finding a high quality partner if you don’t have several outstanding attributes is hard.

From my observations if you have good height and face, finding a high qualified partner is just a breeze.

[BelowTheMean]

From my observations if you have good height and face, finding a high qualified partner is just a breeze.

Way to necro this thread. Dating in China is a different ball game anyway, if you have money you don't need anything else.

[TranslatingWithWriting]

Coming from r/short, where I have already nearly 2 year's experiences, as a newcomer I can say r/short is now very blackpilled and incel.. nothing else but only 'do you guys think being short is over for a man?', 'I want to terminate my life asap', 'I am only 160cm, I got mogged by nearly everyone around me '.
Really not sure what that ceesspool is coming to but just don't fixate on blackpill stuffs or toxic cultures. They will infiltrate into your brain to fk up your mind.

[TranslatingWithWriting]

Way to necro this thread. Dating in China is a different ball game anyway, if you have money you don't need anything else.

I saw you were dumped by your gf because you are too short? Sorry to hear that but I just checked your diary and I can totally relate to why you contemplate on LL. Yeah that sucks like hell and I can't imagine what I would do if I got cheated on by my lover for being too short.
But srsly speaking, I don't thnk your gf dumped you because you are too short. If so at th beginning she would not fall for you.

[TranslatingWithWriting]

Of course people boost the average height, especially kids and naive teenagers do. What has more credibility all the statistics or teenagers on the internet?
Remember height is actually a medical stat like blood group, so of course medical statistics are accurate.

Yh some guys can't just admit the truths cuz only statistics speak the truths if they are accurate, or their observations are totally distorted.