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[sixfootandhalf]

After reading the accounts of many diaries, it seems to me that the ITB band is one of the thing that causes the most concern among patients lengthening.

While stretching is the most important part, and the make or break here, it appears to me that the following apply:  (Note, i am not a substitute for consulting a specialist on this issue)

1.  If you have good upper bosy strength and don't care about returning to work for 5/6 months,  and would rather slowly recover and have a much smoother time when it comes to lengthening paticularly for wide legs, some element of duck ass, and tight bands, getting a full ITB release is a good option.

2. ITB full releases are well documented , and common surgeries. People don't just become paralysed for life. Any temporary issue for mobility, for someone already on crutches, should not be an issue. if you want to walk with effort, and don't mind the extra effort, for the freedom while you lengthen, getting it cut is a good option.

So think about this. Adam wants to lengthen his Femurs 6.5cm. He gets a FULL ITB release, meaning initially, he does struggle to walk, but, he has great upper body strength, still manages his stretches, and doesn't care about being able to walk perfectly because he won't be working for 6 months anyway. His priority is, he wants to lengthen safely, and he is willing to still walk and use his legs, and does not mind instability, if it means far less tight ITB bands. Once he gets to his 6.5-7cm, the process will not only be much smoother, he will have less wide legs, less of a duck ass, and likely, because of the effort he has made with all of the walking he did, have a much better gait. He will still work hard, twice as hard as anyone else in stretching.

So why shouldn't Adam get a full ITB release prior to lengthening?

The biggest, and most major issue everyone lengthening their femurs has, is tight ITB bands, wide legs, and an element of duck ass. I have combed through dozens of diaries, unianimously these are the key issues. Pain, difficulty clicking etc, tend to be transient and overcome or just dealt with.

[hippo60]

Dude how many threads are you going to keep spreading this into? People keep telling you that full release isn't needed and you keep arguing that you want it. There is a reason none of the top doctors (or any doctors?) are doing it. Somehow by reading a bunch of diaries you convinced yourself that you know better

If you want it so bad just freaking ask your doctor, and if he's willing to do it - good for you! You don't need the approval of this forum.

[RealLostSoul]

Haha if it would be a free ticket without any drawbacks anyone would do it always, primarily people who suffer from runner’s knee.
I had “soft” release (god I hate that word being used here always by now), did huge length and have 0 issues with tight it bands or wide legs at all. Crossing my legs is as free as it was before the surgery. No problem. Thinking about this for 6cm is ridiculous in my opinion. Considering how you write FULL and stuff like that you clearly didn’t understand what it means. Those words are used by forum people only, for different cutting techniques. In my opinion in the end it probably comes down to very minimal differences. Nothing you as a patient should worry about.

I think it can be compared to “oh I get stitches for a flesh wound? Okay lets write a paragraph considering if the doctor should use single interrupted closure or running closure etc (different stitching techniques)”
It doesn’t matter because both do the trick
Comparing no itband release to itband release is understandable similar to no stitches vs stitches. But how exactly they do it doesn’t make a noticeable difference.
 
One guy on here once came up and called it soft release and boom it went into the collective of echo chamber on this forum as if it is a difference between externals and internals. Which is not. Imo it’s as negligible as if you were to compare doctors in regards of how they stitch your wounds.   


I thought the same before btw. I was proven it was useless to waste my thoughts about it though. 

[hippo60]

I thought the same before btw. I was proven it was useless to waste my thoughts about it though.

That's the problem with getting obsessed with the surgery but unable to do it / waiting to get it done. You're driving yourself crazy over insignificant details (dare I mention proportions).

[RealLostSoul]

That's the problem with getting obsessed with the surgery but unable to do it / waiting to get it done. You're driving yourself crazy over insignificant details (dare I mention proportions).

Fully agree with you here.

[lessthanavg8300]

That's the problem with getting obsessed with the surgery but unable to do it / waiting to get it done. You're driving yourself crazy over insignificant details (dare I mention proportions).

Proportions matter imo  .  Math dont lie and its an unbiased way to ensure you're not lengthening your limbs in a way where they will look weird when you come out of the euphoria/biased fog during lengthening where you just want to be taller at all costs.  It keeps people out of trouble and adheres to natural principles.  If you stay within ratios theres really no way you can go wrong and look unnatural or be biomechanically nonfunctional.

I could post examples of people who lengthened femurs to the point where they look like a praying mantis but ill refrain.  I will DM you one example I had a chuckle over though.

[informationispower]

Proportions matter imo  .  Math dont lie and its an unbiased way to ensure you're not lengthening your limbs in a way where they will look weird when you come out of the euphoria/biased fog during lengthening where you just want to be taller at all costs.  It keeps people out of trouble and adheres to natural principles.  If you stay within ratios theres really no way you can go wrong and look unnatural or be biomechanically nonfunctional.

I could post examples of people who lengthened femurs to the point where they look like a praying mantis but ill refrain.  I will DM you one example I had a chuckle over though.

I am intetested in that pic

[SpeedDialer]

After reading the accounts of many diaries, it seems to me that the ITB band is one of the thing that causes the most concern among patients lengthening.

While stretching is the most important part, and the make or break here, it appears to me that the following apply:  (Note, i am not a substitute for consulting a specialist on this issue)

1.  If you have good upper bosy strength and don't care about returning to work for 5/6 months,  and would rather slowly recover and have a much smoother time when it comes to lengthening paticularly for wide legs, some element of duck ass, and tight bands, getting a full ITB release is a good option.

2. ITB full releases are well documented , and common surgeries. People don't just become paralysed for life. Any temporary issue for mobility, for someone already on crutches, should not be an issue. if you want to walk with effort, and don't mind the extra effort, for the freedom while you lengthen, getting it cut is a good option.

So think about this. Adam wants to lengthen his Femurs 6.5cm. He gets a FULL ITB release, meaning initially, he does struggle to walk, but, he has great upper body strength, still manages his stretches, and doesn't care about being able to walk perfectly because he won't be working for 6 months anyway. His priority is, he wants to lengthen safely, and he is willing to still walk and use his legs, and does not mind instability, if it means far less tight ITB bands. Once he gets to his 6.5-7cm, the process will not only be much smoother, he will have less wide legs, less of a duck ass, and likely, because of the effort he has made with all of the walking he did, have a much better gait. He will still work hard, twice as hard as anyone else in stretching.

So why shouldn't Adam get a full ITB release prior to lengthening?

The biggest, and most major issue everyone lengthening their femurs has, is tight ITB bands, wide legs, and an element of duck ass. I have combed through dozens of diaries, unianimously these are the key issues. Pain, difficulty clicking etc, tend to be transient and overcome or just dealt with.

This makes complete sense to me. If you absolutely know that you are not going to be working or going to school for 6 months and have support arranged to help you to get to PT early on, it seems good to at least ask the doctor about the full IT band release option.

Some downsides -- short term pain and a bit of delay to feel better and some additional nurse assistance in the beginning might be useful (but in exchange, you maybe help to reduce the odds of V legs or IT band tightness down the line)

I got the full IT band release, I hardly ever stretched my IT bands on my own (mostly only done by the PT's on me), and my IT bands have had great range of motion this whole journey. It may have made the beginning weeks more painful/harsh than they needed to be .. but you know in a few months you won't be thinking about that.

I get why Becker would be opposed to it ("hey just stretch more before resorting to that/most people do need to go back to work or school") he might say but I sort of agree with your logic ---if you know for sure you won't have to work/go to school anyway for 6 months

[1team]

Proportions matter imo  .  Math dont lie and its an unbiased way to ensure you're not lengthening your limbs in a way where they will look weird when you come out of the euphoria/biased fog during lengthening where you just want to be taller at all costs.  It keeps people out of trouble and adheres to natural principles.  If you stay within ratios theres really no way you can go wrong and look unnatural or be biomechanically nonfunctional.

I could post examples of people who lengthened femurs to the point where they look like a praying mantis but ill refrain.  I will DM you one example I had a chuckle over though.

Would also be interested in this picture.

I commented on your thread about the amount of cope around proportions not mattering and how often it's just guys who have done 8cm+ trying to justify what they already did or very short guys what they plan to do. The amount of people who think averages and biomechanics don't apply to them is very high on these forums 

One guy even said about 8cm recovering the same as 5cm long term and I had to post a Dr Lee video where he explicitly says that's not the case.

[hippo60]

One guy even said about 8cm recovering the same as 5cm long term and I had to post a Dr Lee video where he explicitly says that's not the case.

I'm that guy and you're completely twisting what I've said, but that's ok. I didn't bother arguing with you on the other thread because I thought it'll be a waste of time, and fortunately you just proved me right

[Mickxe]

I emailed a doctor who said that he is just doing percutaneous release on ITB! I wonder how good it is! I googled it and it seems complicated

[ballsackoffury123]

Pretty sure getting IT Band released (at least if your goal is 8cm) is almost enforced by every top US doctors nowadays. Cons it adds an extra scar on your lower leg but thats about it?

It grows back, apparently it grows back so quickly sometimes the dcotors have to re-release it (rarely happens). but IT bands gets TIGHT and it's more stubborn to getting stretched than the quads qnd hamstring so why not make life easier and get it released. You're already under anyways and it takes the doctors an extra 5 mins each legs.