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[Juiceslikewine]

So i've decided to bite the bullet and take these two drugs to squeeze some late growth out.I know the risks but there's no way im doing limb lengthening at 5'10 so this is my last shot,im doing 20 mgs of mk and 2mg of letrozole.Ill update this thread monthly to show if i've made any height gains.

[RaaX]

Letrozole has been known for causing estrogen rebound

Use an estrogen suicider like Aromasin

[Johnson1111]

I don't think such a marginal increase in growth hormone production is enough to trigger linear growth at your age. Theres also that initial side effect of prolactin increase which is the opposite of what you want. Even dietary changes would most likely be more effective but you could certainly combine the two.

I don't quite understand the letrozole theory as from my understanding you need a certain small degree of estrogen in the body to grow optimally both linear and muscle-wise. It's not much, but it's certainly less than you'll have using something so strong.

My personal opinion if you want to try to squeeze out an extra cm or two is to try to correct your spine and posture as best you can. Even seeing a specialist to optimize your spinal alignment if it needs anything type of PT etc. (Most likely not and this is your final height and that is the reality)

The best thing for people like you and Mirinheight to do is spend less time on the forums like this spend the time you would have spent, in the real world. Where you're American average for a male, and you're above average globally. You won't regret the time you spent away from the forum.

[Juiceslikewine]

Letrozole has been known for causing estrogen rebound

Use an estrogen suicider like Aromasin

There's no estrogen rebound with Aromasin?Had no idea thought every potent ai had a rebound afterwards.

[Juiceslikewine]

There's no estrogen rebound with Aromasin?Had no idea thought every potent ai had a rebound afterwards.

Have you seen the studies on mk677 it's definitely not marginal 100% increase after a month,as for letro i'd agree but i've heard of people still getting linear growth on letrozole but maybe arimidex would have been the smarter choice.As far as my stance goes,i'd be quite content at 5'10 if there was no chance of growth,It's just i don't want to regret not trying down the line thinking what if?But im fully aware 5'10 is a good height and i want to be taller for the sake of being taller.

[dan56]

which brand is the mk?
did you found something ligit ?

[RaaX]

There's no estrogen rebound with Aromasin?Had no idea thought every potent ai had a rebound afterwards.

https://www.steroidal.com/anti-estrogens-pct/letrozole/letrozole-side-effects/
https://www.steroidal.com/anti-estrogens-pct/aromasin/


"Estrogen rebound: This is one of the Letrozole side effects that are perhaps the worst out of the two non-suicidal aromatase inhibitors (the two being Letrozole itself and Arimidex). While Arimidex exhibits issues of Estrogen rebound, Letrozole has shown to exhibit far worse rebound upon discontinuation"


"The third major aromatase inhibitor, Aromasin (Exemestane) does not exhibit Estrogen rebound. This is because Arimidex and Letrozole are what is known as non-suicidal aromatase inhibitors. Aromasein (Exemestane) is a suicidal aromatase inhibitor. A suicidal aromatase inhibitor (such as Aromasin) indicates that once it has bound to the aromatase enzyme (and thereby inhibiting it), the inhibited enzyme remains bound to aromatase permanently, rendering the enzyme inactive forever. The body will eventually manufacture more aromatase enzymes, but the current bound enzymes are bound indefinitely, eliminating any risk for Estrogen rebound"


"Aromasin has been shown in studies to actually strengthen bone tissue (to a point), while AIs like Arimidex (Anastrozole) and Letrozole (Femara) have shown severe reductions in the same."

[Juiceslikewine]

https://www.steroidal.com/anti-estrogens-pct/letrozole/letrozole-side-effects/
https://www.steroidal.com/anti-estrogens-pct/aromasin/


"Estrogen rebound: This is one of the Letrozole side effects that are perhaps the worst out of the two non-suicidal aromatase inhibitors (the two being Letrozole itself and Arimidex). While Arimidex exhibits issues of Estrogen rebound, Letrozole has shown to exhibit far worse rebound upon discontinuation"


"The third major aromatase inhibitor, Aromasin (Exemestane) does not exhibit Estrogen rebound. This is because Arimidex and Letrozole are what is known as non-suicidal aromatase inhibitors. Aromasein (Exemestane) is a suicidal aromatase inhibitor. A suicidal aromatase inhibitor (such as Aromasin) indicates that once it has bound to the aromatase enzyme (and thereby inhibiting it), the inhibited enzyme remains bound to aromatase permanently, rendering the enzyme inactive forever. The body will eventually manufacture more aromatase enzymes, but the current bound enzymes are bound indefinitely, eliminating any risk for Estrogen rebound"

Do you think i could take letrozole the switch straight to aromasin with no break,It's just i already bought some letrozole.

[Juiceslikewine]

which brand is the mk?
did you found something ligit ?

Yes im using enhanced athletes,although they only sell it on the eu website,sarms are now a controlled substance in the us i believe.

[RaaX]

Do you think i could take letrozole the switch straight to aromasin with no break,It's just i already bought some letrozole.

Lol i got DNP, T3, Anavar, Clen all lying on my shelf for the past 3 years as i have quit lifting after becoming redpilled on life.

i am not sure if that would work, i have never taken anything other than Aromasin as my AI throughout my lifting roiding lifestyle.
in all honesty, Anabolics are not expensive, just sell the letro to some gym junkie and buy aromasin(don't buy it online, its mostly bunk online)

[Juiceslikewine]

Lol i got DNP, T3, Anavar, Clen all lying on my shelf for the past 3 years as i have quit lifting after becoming redpilled on life.

i am not sure if that would work, i have never taken anything other than Aromasin as my AI throughout my lifting roiding lifestyle.
in all honesty, Anabolics are not expensive, just sell the letro to some gym junkie and buy aromasin(don't buy it online, its mostly bunk online)

Wow funnily enough i've heard of guys getting taller on anavar but think it only works when the growth plates are still open,as for the letro fair enough ill get some aromasin then,it's always less expensive online than 
Letro now i know why lol.

[RaaX]

Wow funnily enough i've heard of guys getting taller on anavar but think it only works when the growth plates are still open,as for the letro fair enough ill get some aromasin then,it's always less expensive online than 
Letro now i know why lol.

I didn't use Anavar lol. I just had it ready to get shredded(This is the only Anabolic that directly targets love handles and the lower abs sub q fat according to studies) but by the time winter ended, i was already redpilled and decided against lifting altogether.
Gymcelling is a waste of time if a person does not have the looks to go with it tbh.


proof that gymcelling is futile




once an incel
always an incel

[Juiceslikewine]

I didn't use Anavar lol. I just had it ready to get shredded(This is the only Anabolic that directly targets love handles and the lower abs sub q fat according to studies) but by the time winter ended, i was already redpilled and decided against lifting altogether.
Gymcelling is a waste of time if a person does not have the looks to go with it tbh.


proof that gymcelling is futile




once an incel
always an incel

I was the same man realized until im happy with my height and frame whats the fking point,also thought adding a bunch of mass is only going make my height potential go down if anything,any muscular teen i knew was done height wise pretty much.Limb lengthening would be an absolute last resort for me.

[dan56]

Yes im using enhanced athletes,although they only sell it on the eu website,sarms are now a controlled substance in the us i believe.

i meant if you know it's the real substance... mk667 the real substance is strong stuff and does really work as proven in research. but most of the pills on the internet are spiked with other stuff because the real material is pretty much expensive. do you know or have any prove from any ligit source that it is the real substance and not underdosed?

[Juiceslikewine]

i meant if you know it's the real substance... mk667 the real substance is strong stuff and does really work as proven in research. but most of the pills on the internet are spiked with other stuff because the real material is pretty much expensive. do you know or have any prove from any ligit source that it is the real substance and not underdosed?

Enhanced athlete are definitely legit,many people have documented there use with their mk677 proving their legitimacy,also it's not cheap 100 plus dollars or 93 pounds for 60 caps at 10mg.There also the best known sarms company i know of,alot of people would be supporting scammers if their fake.

[n37r0]

Heya bud,

I'm 18, gonna start using Ibutamoren/MK..., wanna add me on skype so we can discuss the efficacy of these products. I feel like having people to chat to about whether this works or not

[Juiceslikewine]

Heya bud,

I'm 18, gonna start using Ibutamoren/MK..., wanna add me on skype so we can discuss the efficacy of these products. I feel like having people to chat to about whether this works or not

Believe it or not man i solely post here from my ps4 since i don't have a phone at the moment,nor a pc so i can't although if there's anything you don't want to post here,like questions you can pm me if you want.

[Johnson1111]

I didn't use Anavar lol. I just had it ready to get shredded(This is the only Anabolic that directly targets love handles and the lower abs sub q fat according to studies) but by the time winter ended, i was already redpilled and decided against lifting altogether.
Gymcelling is a waste of time if a person does not have the looks to go with it tbh.


proof that gymcelling is futile




once an incel
always an incel

Do you do anything for yourself or is everything done so that other people that don't care about you can see you in a better light? That guy looks great.

[RaaX]

Do you do anything for yourself or is everything done so that other people that don't care about you can see you in a better light? That guy looks great.

Lmfaooooo look at his face
He looks like a mouth breathing horse
He looks anything but great

Ugliness cannot be fixed without surgery

I bet you’d say this guy looks great too and gets girls wet thanks to his physique

[Johnson1111]

Lmfaooooo look at his face
He looks like a mouth breathing horse
He looks anything but great

Ugliness cannot be fixed without surgery

I bet you’d say this guy looks great too and gets girls wet thanks to his physique

Do you really think you're in a position to be critiquing the looks of other men? You don't even lift and are scrawny. You claim to not lift because you're "redpilled on life" that is one of the most ridiculous things i've ever heard in my life. Yes, the guys physique is literally perfect.

You were making fun of your family and other hard working blue collar guys because they lose a few cm due to manual labor in a day and "know nothing about the world" They can support a family, can you? Those are called men, they don't care about what other people think. Hitler was right about one thing, all the good men have died and all the weak, insecure ones are left.

6 foot+, Perfect physique, can support himself. No doubt he's higher up on the SMV pole than you are. Successful people are too busy to worry about that   anyway though.

Women and men see things differently. What looks good through your eyeglass, is not indefinitely gonna be the same view out of a females eyeglass. He's not particularly attractive as far as facial aesthetics. He has the height and physique though. Facial aesthetics, although important, are only but one indicator of attractiveness on the SMV scale (That's if you follow that BS). He has good height and a good body.

A society of men who get tons of plastic surgery, LL to get to 6'2" and take unlimited amounts of dangerous diuretics, steroids and wear feminine-style clothing to look ideal for women is a society of coping soy boys. They will all get taken advantage of equally. Anyone can screen a sheep in a wolves clothing, especially women with their screening process abilities.

You were okay as of recent and had some funny/decently true stuff to say...But some of your posts are beyond delusional and no doubt your past experiences with family and abuse have skewed your mind indefinitely in a pessimistic way towards the world. It's no laughing matter. I hope you get better soon. LL and 4chan are not the answer 100%. I wish the best for you sir.

[RaaX]

Do you really think you're in a position to be critiquing the looks of other men? You don't even lift and are scrawny. You claim to not lift because you're "redpilled on life" that is one of the most ridiculous things i've ever heard in my life. Yes, the guys physique is literally perfect.

I do cardio(HIIT) occasionally and still retained some of my muscle mass and i am still on Testosterone Enanthate at 250mg/week but i just hate the idea of lifting, it yields nothing.
There are 0 benefits in lifting if a person's face is not up to tier.
This has been proven time and time again, the bodybuilding circle is full of delusional retards who think lifting weights and getting a muscular shredded physique will suddenly get them Victoria Secret model girlfriends/wife.

research and compare the number of failed 5/10 Gymcels to the number of failed 7/10 scrawny people when it comes to attracting the opposite sxx
You will find out gymcels lost once again



That 18% vote for Arnold on the TMZ article was from bodybuilding misc community lol.
No women in the 21st century wants a roided up freak

You were making fun of your family and other hard working blue collar guys because they lose a few cm due to manual labor in a day and "know nothing about the world" They can support a family, can you? Those are called men, they don't care about what other people think. Hitler was right about one thing, all the good men have died and all the weak, insecure ones are left.

My parents don't do manual labour lol, he is a wage slaving clerk. He lived his entire life serving others instead of himself.
He never started a business and just wageslaved his life away just like his dad before him who had the chance to make something when he left the 3rd world shethole and was the first among our family and because of these mistakes they committed. I am suffering and i have to do everything from scratch.

You have to be among the construction workers to know just how much of an idiot everyone is there(brb i have been doing x job for y amount of years and thanks to god's grace i have only made z money so far.... Lmfaoooo what a joke, some men they're, that's the type of conversations you will have if you discuss money or life goals with those coping retards). The jokes they laugh at, The goals they have achieved. Literally subhumans with 0 knowledge about anything!

6 foot+, Perfect physique, can support himself. No doubt he's higher up on the SMV pole than you are. Successful people are too busy to worry about that   anyway though.

Women and men see things differently. What looks good through your eyeglass, is not indefinitely gonna be the same view out of a females eyeglass. He's not particularly attractive as far as facial aesthetics. He has the height and physique though. Facial aesthetics, although important, are only but one indicator of attractiveness on the SMV scale (That's if you follow that BS). He has good height and a good body.

Try going to do the Lookism forum. Those guys have done countless number of experiments on all online dating sites. No matter how muscular someone is, he will be rejected if his height/looks are inadequate.
They used male model pictures of "Nick Bateman, Mariano Di Vaio, Alessandro Dellisola" and used the same pick up lines.
within 24 hours, those guys got over 300+ matches, they even sometimes used the words like "I have a rape charge going on" or "women are inferior", basically, they acted like they had Asperger syndrome and the women still wanted their cokes.

You're an idiot if you believe Muscular average faced dudes outperform Godly faced symmetrical scrawny guys.

A society of men who get tons of plastic surgery, LL to get to 6'2" and take unlimited amounts of dangerous diuretics, steroids and wear feminine-style clothing to look ideal for women is a society of coping soy boys. They will all get taken advantage of equally. Anyone can screen a sheep in a wolves clothing, especially women with their screening process abilities.

This guy from the incel community had 7 surgeries(Rhinoplasty, Oseotomy, Canthopexy etc) and ended up losing his virginity only after these surgeries were performed
He is known by the handle "Dontcomplain"
I am sure he would have gotten his dck wet just by saying "man i need to build some muscle and improve my personality"



I am sure women will be like "oh my god did you have surgery, you're soo insecure and vain"
Try asking Tom Cruise lmfaooooo, that guy got jaw implants and routinely has botox fillers injected into his face which is evident also yet no one calls him out.
Same goes with Salman Khan of india's bollywood industry, He is the most succesful actor and the highest paid there, There is a plethora of evidence of his Anabolic usage and Hair Transplants and Fillers around his bug eyed area when he was young.

What i am trying to say is, NORMIES CANT TELL SHET unless they have known you pre surgery or you tell them yourself.

You were okay as of recent and had some funny/decently true stuff to say...But some of your posts are beyond delusional and no doubt your past experiences with family and abuse have skewed your mind indefinitely in a pessimistic way towards the world. It's no laughing matter. I hope you get better soon. LL and 4chan are not the answer 100%. I wish the best for you sir.

Optimism about everything = Delusion = like the user "Midnight" from the pick up artists community




he is so oblivious about his face. Look at him dressing up as a biker. What a joke.
he should nuke himself


Either read the truth and accept it or continue lying that everything is fine as it is.




another failed Optimistic retard is called "jsanza29"
he was redpilled when incels from the PUAhate community infiltrated the r/amiugly section

[video][/video]

Funny thing is, some people convinced him that looks don't matter and what matters is your friends etc finding you good looking on the inside etc
and today you will see that after half a decade, he is still DELUSIONALLY playing hockey outside his home.
Happy in his own little world with no vaginas in sight

Countless real life stories of failed retards like this exist simply because they refused to swallow the redpill and improve themselves through surgeries.

[Johnson1111]

I do cardio(HIIT) occasionally and still retained some of my muscle mass and i am still on Testosterone Enanthate at 250mg/week but i just hate the idea of lifting, it yields nothing.
There are 0 benefits in lifting if a person's face is not up to tier.
This has been proven time and time again, the bodybuilding circle is full of delusional retards who think lifting weights and getting a muscular shredded physique will suddenly get them Victoria Secret model girlfriends/wife.

research and compare the number of failed 5/10 Gymcels to the number of failed 7/10 scrawny people when it comes to attracting the opposite sxx
You will find out gymcels lost once again



That 18% vote for Arnold on the TMZ article was from bodybuilding misc community lol.
No women in the 21st century wants a roided up freak

My parents don't do manual labour lol, he is a wage slaving clerk. He lived his entire life serving others instead of himself.
He never started a business and just wageslaved his life away just like his dad before him who had the chance to make something when he left the 3rd world shethole and was the first among our family and because of these mistakes they committed. I am suffering and i have to do everything from scratch.

You have to be among the construction workers to know just how much of an idiot everyone is there(brb i have been doing x job for y amount of years and thanks to god's grace i have only made z money so far.... Lmfaoooo what a joke, some men they're, that's the type of conversations you will have if you discuss money or life goals with those coping retards). The jokes they laugh at, The goals they have achieved. Literally subhumans with 0 knowledge about anything!




Try going to do the Lookism forum. Those guys have done countless number of experiments on all online dating sites. No matter how muscular someone is, he will be rejected if his height/looks are inadequate.
They used male model pictures of "Nick Bateman, Mariano Di Vaio, Alessandro Dellisola" and used the same pick up lines.
within 24 hours, those guys got over 300+ matches, they even sometimes used the words like "I have a rape charge going on" or "women are inferior", basically, they acted like they had Asperger syndrome and the women still wanted their cks.

You're an idiot if you believe Muscular average faced dudes outperform Godly faced symmetrical scrawny guys.

This guy from the incel community had 7 surgeries(Rhinoplasty, Oseotomy, Canthopexy etc) and ended up losing his virginity only after these surgeries were performed
He is known by the handle "Dontcomplain"
I am sure he would have gotten his dck wet just by saying "man i need to build some muscle"



I am sure women will be like "oh my god did you have surgery, you're soo insecure and vain"
Try asking Tom Cruise lmfaooooo, that guy got jaw implants and routinely has botox fillers injected into his face which is evident also yet no one calls him out.
Same goes with Salman Khan of india's bollywood industry, He is the most succesful actor and the highest paid there, There is a plethora of evidence of his Anabolic usage and Hair Transplants and Fillers around his bug eyed area when he was young.

What i am trying to say is, NORMIES CANT TELL SHET unless they have known you pre surgery or you tell them yourself.

Optimism about everything = Delusion = like the user "Midnight" from the pick up artists community




he is so oblivious about his face. Look at him dressing up as a biker. What a joke.
he should nuke himself


Either read the truth and accept it or continue lying that everything is fine as it is.




another failed Optimistic retard is called "jsanza29"
he was redpilled when incels from the PUAhate community infiltrated the r/amiugly section

[video][/video]

Funny thing is, some people convinced him that looks don't matter and what matters is your friends etc finding you good looking on the inside etc
and today you will see that after half a decade, he is still DELUSIONALLY playing hockey outside his home.
Happy in his own little world with no vaginas in sight

Countless real life stories of failed retards like this exist simply because they refused to swallow the redpill and improve themselves through surgeries.

EVERYONE in the incel community needs to nuke themselves, not just that biker guy. This includes the insecure twink who got 50 surgeries.

So do you feel that you're ugly and will get more than one facial surgery? What are you planning to get? I kind of want to see a pic of you lol. You are most likely not as ugly as the guy in the video.

[RaaX]

EVERYONE in the incel community needs to nuke themselves, not just that biker guy. This includes the insecure twink who got 50 surgeries.

So do you feel that you're ugly and will get more than one facial surgery? What are you planning to get? I kind of want to see a pic of you lol. You are most likely not as ugly as the guy in the video.

Everyone in the incel community knows the truth.
most of the "scary stuff" you hear is trolling or a cry for attention from them.
Everyone there has got a goal to fix their face, that's all.
The "insecure twink" stopped posting the moment he got his dink wet at the age of 22.
The biker guy is a Pick up artist, he doesn't regard himself as an incel because he had sxx with h00kers(how pathetic), he just came on there a couple of times to lure guys into his retarded group.



I need
Infraorbital rim implants, ptosis surgery, Canthopexy(thanks to shet ethnic Paki genes, These shet eye traits hold me back and i noticed they are really really really common among the Middle Eastern phenotypes), Jaw and Chin implants(they're average but i want them to be Tom Cruise tier) and Rhinoplasty to get rid of the dirty dog arab nose

That's about it and of course Glutathione IV injections to get rid of my yellowish white skin, i want the full white pinkish glow.
LL is the last surgery on my list and it is only a maybe.

and also not autistic enough to upload pics on the internet.

I have photoshopped my face to see how i would long with all the facial surgery's i listed above and well, i rather look like the "after" instead of the "before"

EDIT: what's with all the censors? I cant' even say certain words, this forum feels like PC bullshet

[Johnson1111]

Everyone in the incel community knows the truth.
most of the "scary stuff" you hear is trolling or a cry for attention from them.
Everyone there has got a goal to fix their face, that's all.
The "insecure twink" stopped posting the moment he got his dink wet at the age of 22.
The biker guy is a Pick up artist, he doesn't regard himself as an incel because he had sxx with working girls(how pathetic), he just came on there a couple of times to lure guys into his retarded group.



I need
Infraorbital rim implants, ptosis surgery, Canthopexy(thanks to shet ethnic Paki genes, These shet eye traits hold me back and i noticed they are really really really common among the Middle Eastern phenotypes), Jaw and Chin implants(they're average but i want them to be Tom Cruise tier) and Rhinoplasty to get rid of the dirty dog arab nose

That's about it and of course Glutathione IV injections to get rid of my yellowish white skin, i want the full white pinkish glow.
LL is the last surgery on my list and it is only a maybe.

and also not autistic enough to upload pics on the internet.

I have photoshopped my face to see how i would long with all the facial surgery's i listed above and well, i rather look like the "after" instead of the "before"

Jesus christ sir. That is alot of stuff. Did he take out a loan? Surely for a fact most 21 year olds cannot afford that or anything close to it.

Wasn't the parkland shooter an incel? Same with Elliot Rodger? No thanks. The community is toxic. I've seen them talking about how to plan to rape women etc. stuff that's absolutely insane.

I hope that you find peace with yourself one day.


That pickup artist guy is the man, lol.

[RaaX]

Jesus christ sir. That is alot of stuff. Did he take out a loan? Surely for a fact most 21 year olds cannot afford that or anything close to it.

Wasn't the parkland shooter an incel? Same with Elliot Rodger? No thanks. The community is toxic. I've seen them talking about how to plan to rape women etc. stuff that's absolutely insane.

I hope that you find peace with yourself one day.


That pickup artist guy is the man, lol.

Ignorance is bliss.


Those are extreme cases.
They would have done it one way or another, the forum didn't motivate them to do shet.
You need to visit to know what is going on there, not rely on words being spread around by normies
just like how school shootings happen, not all of them are forum dwellers
They happen because people are bullied or pushed to the extreme, not because they have been reading forum posts.

I don't know how he got the money
It would have cost him 30G for all 7 surgeries and that is easy to accumulate if he lived with his parents and didn't spend  the salaries he earned.

lulz



My most expensive surgery would be LL but if we don't count it then it would be the Infraorbital rim implants as it's a risky surgery and i'd have to go to the best guy to get it done aka Dr.Eppley or Dr.Yaremchuk.

It would cost me a total of 25g for the surgeries i want.

Here is a before after of Infraorbital Rim Implants

Before




After

[Johnson1111]

Ignorance is bliss.


Those are extreme cases.
They would have done it one way or another, the forum didn't motivate them to do shet.
You need to visit to know what is going on there, not rely on words being spread around by normies
just like how school shootings happen, not all of them are forum dwellers
They happen because people are bullied or pushed to the extreme, not because they have been reading forum posts.

I don't know how he got the money
It would have cost him 30G for all 7 surgeries and that is easy to accumulate if he lived with his parents and didn't spend  the salaries he earned.

lulz



My most expensive surgery would be LL but if we don't count it then it would be the Infraorbital rim implants as it's a risky surgery and i'd have to go to the best guy to get it done aka Dr.Eppley or Dr.Yaremchuk.

It would cost me a total of 25g for the surgeries i want.

Here is a before after of Infraorbital Rim Implants

Before




After

Oh totally, you're right. Incels are REALLY cool people  I'm just ignorant...that's what it is. The most normie thing to do is say "How can we look how society wants us to look and thinks is ideal?" 

“Our sexual frustration completely controls us and we wont live our life until we get 100 plastic surgeries to look like a ken doll so useless whores in colleges who would bang us anyway when they are drunk could see us in a good light. Then we will rule the world once we turn 25 and have 8/10 looks.”

There needs to be a meme for that. That is delusion. 

Defending incels and posting school shooter memes. You do not live in the real world like you think you do.

[Corky The Pope]

I have to agree with Johnson1111. While dontcomplain doesn't look horrible, he still just looks like some generic male model. I, for one,  can't tell most of them apart from one another.

[RaaX]

Oh totally, you're right. Incels are REALLY cool people  I'm just ignorant...that's what it is. The most normie thing to do is say "How can we look how society wants us to look and thinks is ideal?" 

“Our sxxual frustration completely controls us and we wont live our life until we get 100 plastic surgeries to look like a ken doll so useless whores in colleges who would bang us anyway when they are drunk could see us in a good light. Then we will rule the world once we turn 25 and have 8/10 looks.”

There needs to be a meme for that. That is delusion. 

Defending incels and posting school shooter memes. You do not live in the real world like you think you do.

You don’t need 100 surgeries
Stop making up shet
At least say it accurately

If your goal in life is not to seek approval from others then you will not succeed.
Success depends on how others perceive you
Being wanted by others is much better than receiving pity from them

I am sure Jsanza29 is living a life full of a success now that he doesn’t care about pussy and looksmaxxing
Man, his life must be sooo fulfilling because at least now he can keep himself happy(pathetic) with his hockey game and his best friend
Women are whores anyways, he will just fk a h00ker to get the same experience a Chad receives Stepping outside.

[video][/video]

The feeling of being wanted and loved by others... He will never feel it but hey at least he is happy and that should be the end goal, being happy in our own little bubble

I have to agree with Johnson1111. While dontcomplain doesn't look horrible, he still just looks like some generic male model. I, for one,  can't tell most of them apart from one another.

Lmfaoooooo
I guess having flaws is 100000x better than being symmetrical all around because at least that way “diversity of the face is preserved”


“Who wants to look like these guys
They’re too similar and no one finds it attractive”







“I rather look like this, diversity and flaws make humans human”

[Johnson1111]

Fake masculinity is fragile and will be seen through. ~99% of incel community. Not every lion is the pack leader not every man is alpha. They think they've swallowed every red pill but they missed one.

Every man in that picture looks better than the insecure twink kid who had 100 surgeries. infinitely better. They also got to live their life and are guaranteed better in social situations.

Men who mutilate themselves for tinder dates are the most beta. Let their hormones completely control their logic and thinking. If the surgery revealing didn't matter, they should tell the girls they finally get dates with about all of their surgeries and why they did them. All of the ridiculous reasons you listed. They'd walk right out of the door. (that's if they get any even after)

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Fake masculinity is fragile and will be seen through. ~99% of incel community. Not every lion is the pack leader not every man is alpha. They think they've swallowed every red pill but they missed one.

Every man in that picture looks better than the insecure twink kid who had 100 surgeries. infinitely better. They also got to live their life and are guaranteed better in social situations.

Men who mutilate themselves for tinder dates are the most beta. Let their hormones completely control their logic and thinking.

Lmfaoooo
This is why why have cringe compilations(that is a famous reddit meet up cringe pic)
People who think like you
I believe furries are infinitely better than all those “twinks” who had surgery because they at least go out and live life without a care in the world
That’s what “I don’t give a fk” mentality breeds aka pure retards with 0 life achievements


A good looking guy will get paid for having his photos clicked
An ugly guy will not

A good looking guy is more likely to get promotions at a job
An ugly guy is not

A good looking guy is showered with compliments day in and out
An ugly guy does not



Without facial aesthetics, a person is nothing.

If “dontcomplain” had not had surgery and lived a life with the “I don’t give a fk” mentality then today he would still be a virgin or would’ve lost his virginity to some 2/10 whale like Ibby1995 from the bodybuilding community
He would be wageslavin and would have never felt the way a chad feels aka being showered with compliments

This is him





This is the creature he lost his virginity to



That’s what happens when a person is not good looking and relies on “personality” and works hard on other cope tactics to get girls


Also you’re here because you’re not satisfied with your height
If your “I don’t give a fk” mentality actually worked then we would see more successful flawed people in the world of normies but instead I see good looking people becoming much more successful in a short period of time
They get life handed on a golden plate

You’re purposely lying to yourself to avoid the painful reality

Keep doing it and you will still be an average guy at an old age of 40.
Ugly people will never accomplish what good looking people accomplish.


Even the bodybuilding industry has changed
Notice how the more good looking you are, the more likely you’re to be sponsored by supplement companies
That’s why we see Jeff Seid, David Laid, Carlton Loth becoming successful in a short period of time compared to the rough faced guys in fitness industry
These 3 guys all look like what you would classify as “twinks” facially

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Lmfaoooo
This is why why have cringe compilations(that is a famous reddit meet up cringe pic)
People who think like you
I believe furries are infinitely better than all those “twinks” who had surgery because they at least go out and live life without a care in the world
That’s what “I don’t give a fk” mentality breeds aka pure retards with 0 life achievements


A good looking guy will get paid for having his photos clicked
An ugly guy will not

A good looking guy is more likely to get promotions at a job
An ugly guy is not

A good looking guy is showered with compliments day in and out
An ugly guy does not



Without facial aesthetics, a person is nothing.

If “dontcomplain” had not had surgery and lived a life with the “I don’t give a fk” mentality then today he would still be a virgin or would’ve lost his virginity to some 2/10 whale like Ibby1995 from the bodybuilding community
He would be wageslavin and would have never felt the way a chad feels aka being showered with compliments

This is him





This is the creature he lost his virginity to



That’s what happens when a person is not good looking and relies on “personality” and works hard on other cope tactics to get girls


Also you’re here because you’re not satisfied with your height
If your “I don’t give a fk” mentality actually worked then we would see more successful flawed people in the world of normies but instead I see good looking people becoming much more successful in a short period of time
They get life handed on a golden plate

You’re purposely lying to yourself to avoid the painful reality

Keep doing it and you will still be an average guy at an old age of 40.
Ugly people will never accomplish what good looking people accomplish.


Even the bodybuilding industry has changed
Notice how the more good looking you are, the more likely you’re to be sponsored by supplement companies
That’s why we see Jeff Seid, David Laid, Carlton Loth becoming successful in a short period of time compared to the rough faced guys in fitness industry
These 3 guys all look like what you would classify as “twinks” facially

Sorry to break it to you, but the cringe compilations are infinitely more likely to be showing posts like yours as far as race, women, school shooting memes, wanting several plastic surgeries that cost alot of money when you cannot even support yourself, etc.

Seid was one of the first youtube teens to go on gear and be shredded at 16-17. There are tons of people nowadays like him that don't get half of the recognition. He's a dime a dozen and a zyzz copy. He just did things at the right time.

Yes David Laid's job is to be a fitness model. So he's a perfect height and body for a fitness model. Can he make 1mil+ in silicon valley working 40-45 hours a week? Most likely not and he'll lose his sponsorships and free lunch once his looks fade like everyone else.

Don't know the other guy as he's irrelevant. Insert X , Y ,Z fitness model that posts everyone of their meals and gymshark clothing, poses in the mirror 30 times a day.

I don't give a fk mentality and focusing on success is far better than being an incel and wasting time in an online community with other uglies and losers.


Wanting LL at 5'7" is perfectly justifiable and makes sense as an American white male and you know it. Pointing the finger at my decisions with the outlandish amount of stuff you've said you wanted to do (including LL at 5'10") is a bit foolish. At 40 i'll be a doctor who's already done LL and is living a happy life long away from here. You'll see me when I post pics and videos around LL time if you're still around.

Ugly guys get laid all the time. I've seen short guys, ugly guys etc. all get laid alot in my college in the US. There are outliers like this at every school and every age. Elliot Rodger was an entitled loser who never approached a woman in his life but felt he deserved the world. Those type of people are the worst. People shorter than him that look worse still get laid because they put in more work. Yes the success rate is lower the uglier you are but  More Attempts = More successful Outcomes. The attempts never work and people get discouraged because they don't have enough confidence to get rejected more than once.

 Incel community personality is down there with the WORST personalities possible because they think personalities don't matter. Based on what? They're online all day and the majority of them had very little female contact. How would they even know?


Like I said I have no ill-will towards you I think your past has destroyed your mentality and way of thinking. Lookism exists and many of the things you say have merit...But not NEARLY to the degree that you think they do.

This is my last post here about this as it's a bit repetitive going back and forth. Best of luck to you