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[Muse]

Here are the response from Dr Sarin regarding the Limb Lengthening surgery.

Note: please refer to our disclaimer about Doctors Directory http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=55.0


1) How many patients have you operated for cosmetic Limb Lengthening so far and How many patients do you operate yearly?

I operate on an average 40 patients per year for LL

2) What is the estimated total cost, including post-op treatments, stay, medications, physiotherapy? Are unscheduled surgeries covered and How much does a consultation cost?

Total cost at present is 17.5 K which includes every thing even complication and over stay.

3) What kind of physical therapy is assigned to the patient?

There are more than 2 physio 24/7 in the guest house .

4) What maximum amount of lengthening do you recommend per segment, regarding patient safety? What is the daily rate of lengthening?

Safely can increase 22 5 of leg length.   Lengthening depends on person to person may be 1.25mm to .5 MM

5)  What are your opinions regarding the weightbearing of the patients?

yes standing for at least 2 hrs a day if persons wt is less than 60KG.

6)  How often will you follow up with patients during lengthening?

All patients are under strict supervision which i personally monitored and I may see person any time on  basis of requirement 24/7 or at least 2 times a week . Many patient do not need much supervision after removal I may see once a week.

7) How fast can patients return to normal life (walking without support)?  What is the time required to lengthen 5 cm and 7.5-8 cm ?

It will take at least 9 months till you become independent

Dr. Amar Sarin
B L Kapur Hospital/Sri Balaji Action Medical Institute
Phone:    91-0124-4041465
Email:    info@drsarin.in
Web site; http://www.drsarin.in/

[TomD]

Wow. Good stuff Daemon. 

I would still like to get patient diaries after they leave the guest house so we can have an honest assessment about the treatment there. I know there was life threatening issues but several medium and small issues. Many are confused and concerned right now.

[Adriano]

Can you please ask him to say something about his HLN.

results of his first HLN patient?
how he has or plans to make adjustments to improve the nail?
Aprroval by government?

[TomD]

Can you please ask him to say something about his HLN.

results of his first HLN patient?
how he has or plans to make adjustments to improve the nail?
Aprroval by government?

We do have some inside stuff but nothing we can confirm yet . I am sure any verified info will be posted.

[Arche]

I'm happy he finally raised prices to 17,500 USD. I think this price is very reasonable as you can get plane tickets, hotels, vitamins, protein and be around 20,000 USD. What's to complain about? Anyways, just hope we can get some Indian Diaries started here.

[TomD]

Hey Arche

Good luck to you. I appreciate the diaries !!! 

[Doflamingo]

I'm really confuses.... Is Dr Sarin now a decent doctor or a horrible one?
I've seen good and bad stories about him on this site.

[KiloKAHN]

I'm really confuses.... Is Dr Sarin now a decent doctor or a horrible one?
I've seen good and bad stories about him on this site.

The site's policy is not to officially endorse or invalidate doctors. You'll get a different opinion about Dr. Sarin depending on who you ask. The best way to come to a conclusion about an orthopedic surgeon is to have a direct consultation with that particular surgeon, along with other research such as patient feedback and seeing what exactly his medical background consists of.

[Doflamingo]

What is Dr Sarin's email? I've mailed him through website but doesn't get any respond...

[BilateralDamage]

info@drsarin.in

[Doflamingo]

That's the email from the website; I remember on old forum  that he had an another email which he actually responds to.

[BilateralDamage]

That's the email he responded to me from when I asked him a question a week ago.

[FrankGarrett]

He removed his email from his site a while ago.

Fill this in and you should get in contact with him: http://www.drsarin.in/contact-us.html

[Doflamingo]

Ok received a reply.
He told me that 5cm in 2 months is very possible.
But then I see all these complications? Is this true or is he simply advertising?

[Polycrates.]

Don't go to Sarin, he's a butcherer. The complications and bad cases are ubiquitous. I'm in India right now and there's no collusion against him, he's just a bad doctor.

[Polycrates.]

And it seems like he thinks he coined the term, "don't worry". He said this to me when I spoke with him and it sounds like he says it to everyone else too.

[Machine]

Dr sarin is not a potential doctor...he has some kind of psycho issue , his attitude is somewhat of a merciless dictator . He fked up so many patients while i was at the guest house , yeah i did my surgery with him.
He dosent care about patient . All he care is money .

[handy]

Dr sarin is not a potential doctor...he has some kind of psycho issue , his attitude is somewhat of a merciless dictator . He fked up so many patients while i was at the guest house , yeah i did my surgery with him.
He dosent care about patient . All he care is money .

Hi Crazy+6, Checkmate, LLdream, dailyuser, Claude, Gladiator2012. Nice to see you are trying out a new name on the LL Forum.  This is your first post on LL Forum and this is what you decide to write. Interesting! You made a mistake on the tense and plurality of the sentence like you always do on old forum  with your 6 other accounts. It's so obvious. You are trying to say "He doesn't care about patients. All he cares about is money. Everybody knows that Dr. Sarin is dangerous so you can go back to old forum  and be an advertising bitch for Dr. Sringari, Sysop/Apotheosis, and old forum .

I'm not trying to be a moderator or anything here Dameon but check out his second post and it's a question about how you feel about Dr. Sringari. In my opinion this is nothing more than Crazy+6 creating more accounts on different forums. I posted a thread about Crazy+6 doing this and immediately after I created that thread all these accounts started changing their treatment of Sweden and how they posted on old forum .

Here is the thread- http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=156.0

[BilateralDamage]

handy,

People may write you off as a crazy conspiracy theorist but you're very perceptive of this stuff (I noticed when they started treating Sweden differently on the forums as well).  Sounds like a crazy+6 sock puppet account to me.  I don't think he should be banned or censored, but it's just something good to point out.

[Machine]

Hi Crazy+6, Checkmate, LLdream, dailyuser, Claude, Gladiator2012. Nice to see you are trying out a new name on the LL Forum.  This is your first post on LL Forum and this is what you decide to write. Interesting! You made a mistake on the tense and plurality of the sentence like you always do on old forum  with your 6 other accounts. It's so obvious. You are trying to say "He doesn't care about patients. All he cares about is money. Everybody knows that Dr. Sarin is dangerous so you can go back to old forum  and be an advertising bitch for Dr. Sringari, Sysop/Apotheosis, and old forum .

I'm not trying to be a moderator or anything here Dameon but check out his second post and it's a question about how you feel about Dr. Sringari. In my opinion this is nothing more than Crazy+6 creating more accounts on different forums. I posted a thread about Crazy+6 doing this and immediately after I created that thread all these accounts started changing their treatment of Sweden and how they posted on old forum .

Here is the thread- http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=156.0

Hey handy m really happy that u are concerned about the wellness of this forum...i really appreciate the thing you are doing , i really do man!! But you are mistaken me for crazy+6 , i have met him at the guest house several time but we never really talked. I even heard crazy+6 was afraid to talk to dr sarin because of his behavior (Dictator).
I was really angry at him for introducing Dr Sarin , but no use wasting my energy instead i made peace with my self.
And about dr sringari , i saw many posts saying that he is not a potential doctor for limb lengthening. So i was just eager to get an opinion from the LL Forum admin Dameon.  Ahh u can check the posts under doctors list dr sringari.
And if u still dont believe me then we can skype or something.. i really wish there were good doctors who really care for patient rather then money.

[Smallguy]

Hey, this is ColinTheSmall. I did external tibia for 8cm with Dr Sarin in early 2013. It was rough with lots of complications but I managed to get back to work one month after frame removal and now recover. No complications nor pain, unlike Sweden. Anyway, I got banned on old forum  for defending Sarin. He was a good doctor so I also planned on coming back in 2014 for internal femur.

[Machine]

Hey, this is ColinTheSmall. I did external tibia for 8cm with Dr Sarin in early 2013. It was rough with lots of complications but I managed to get back to work one month after frame removal and now recover. No complications nor pain, unlike Sweden. Anyway, I got banned on old forum  for defending Sarin. He was a good doctor so I also planned on coming back in 2014 for internal femur.

How can you say that , are you really colinthesmall ..@!!
i mean i saw u suffered alot under Dr Sarin and now you are saying he is a good doctor ..??
i don't understand , is this really happening ?
And you already know that his HNL internal is not successfull at all infact the patient got fked with complications and i heard
he also got 2cm discrepancy on femur if i m not wrong ..!!@

[Smallguy]

Yeah, it's me

LL is a complicated surgery and I was one of the unlucky patients. Had 6 surgeries. Suffered a lot of pain, both physically and mentally. My gf also dumped me when I was at the hospital (still remember that!).

But in the end, Dr. Sarin never gave up on me and was with me through the whole ordeal. He even gave me an extra month of stay without charge. So I paid 15k (meant to be for 4 months) but I stayed 6 months. So that's why I think he was a good doctor.

People at the guesthouse knows that I wear braces. My orthodontic in Canada is worst. I went back to complain that my upper teeth being tilted to the left and he has this "fuk you attitude" on his face. And I paid him $7800 for the braces.

I also went back to working as a clerk at my company after 1 month of frame removal in July. I spend the last 6 months, going to the gym every single day. Power my way through 60 minutes of steps and other weight lifting exercises. Now I recover with no ballerina. The only thing which I havent try is hopping and running. I feel that I can begin doing these activities but I want to take an x-ray in January and let my Vancouver Orthopaedic advise me whether my bones are strong enough to do these activities.

I'm at 177cm right now but still want more height. I'm thinking of completing another LL project by the end of 2014 for another 8cm in the femur.

Oh really? I haven't been on these forum for months. Anyway, Dr. Sarin is still new to internal femur. But he is also the only doctor who would do it for 35k.

How can you say that , are you really colinthesmall ..@!!
i mean i saw u suffered alot under Dr Sarin and now you are saying he is a good doctor ..??
i don't understand , is this really happening ?
And you already know that his HNL internal is not successfull at all ..!!@

[Sweden]

I haven't started to work yet.

I can hop all I want and run, but it looks terrible.
I've tried to jump on one leg as far as I could but I can only jump ~10cm. Absolutely terrible!!
It's the same in both legs.

Ankles are tight as hell, especially the right one.

I'm really undecided regarding my femurs.
Maybe 2015. Maybe.....

Nice to see you doing great Colin. Cheers.
(Machine: who are you?)

[Machine]

Yeah, it's me

LL is a complicated surgery and I was one of the unlucky patients. Had 6 surgeries. Suffered a lot of pain, both physically and mentally. My gf also dumped me when I was at the hospital (still remember that!).

If you are really colinthesmall then its good to hear that you are fine and doing well .... i m david's roommate from India if you remember , you use to come to our room...!!

well Dr Sarin may be good to you for letting you stay extra months but i don't think he is a good LL doctor because he is the reason you got complication at first and moreover its his responsibility or duty to do his job since everything is included in the package.

i don't need to explain since you already know his attitude and behavior and all the other complications the patients suffered cause of him.

well 177 cm is a good height for now and i think you should wait for some time to do your femur.
You should be more cautious since you already experienced everything the hard way.

and for your kind information , i recently met a LL doctor in delhi and i told him about Dr Sarin and Dr Sringari both and about the HNL internal nail .
well at first he said that he never heard or saw these doctor at any seminar or workshop regarding Ilizarov technique for complex trauma , limb reconstruction or deformity correction that he or any other Ilizarov specialist doctor organised in delhi or around India.
moreover , they are not even member of any Ilizarov Organisation in india that he knows of...!!

And about the internal nail , this doctor was confused and said that there are no course or study in india right now about internal nails so how come Dr Sarin is doing surgery with internal without any knowledge and  he said that it is illegal and Dr Sarin could go to jail or maybe loose his license if someone does complaint against him.
and moreover he also told me that they are going to launch some kind of frame soon in india , maybe taylor spatial frame or some kinda frame i don't remember properly, but he clearly said that internal nail is out of question in india at this stage since there are no course or study in india about internal nails.

well i think he was right cause even the most prestigious LL doctor in india like Dr Mangal Parihar doesn't provide or mention internal nail at all .

anyway be careful now , don't fall for trap . After lot of struggle you have recovered well but you might get seriously injured for life if you take one wrong step thinking that Dr Sarin is providing Internal nails for cheap of which he doesn't have any knowledge or experience and moreover legality to perform the surgery ... and if anything goes wrong he will for sure turn his back without hesitation .

I saw a quote about Dr Sringari going to launch internal nail for LL soon , i m not sure how they are doing it .... but those who are real LL doctors , they openly say that they don't have any knowledge to do LL with internal nails infact there is not even a single doctor in india doing internals cause there is no study or course about internals in india ..!!

take care and think carefully .

[Machine]

Nice to see you doing great Colin. Cheers.
(Machine: who are you?)

i m the mongoloid guy from india whose hash joint you smoked once if you remember .
First Danny's and then David's roommate.

[Sweden]

i m the mongoloid guy from india whose hash joint you smoked once if you remember .
First Danny's and then David's roommate.

Aaaaaahhhh, my man 

Happy to see you!! Merry Xmas 

[Smallguy]

Hey Machine,

If you are really L****, feel free to send me a text message through facebook.

L***** was a good friend of mine and I used to come downstair to chat quite often.

It's just that L***** was from Tibet and he spoke with a broken-english accent. And I never remember him criticizing Dr. Sarin.

i m the mongoloid guy from india whose hash joint you smoked once if you remember .
First Danny's and then David's roommate.

[Smallguy]

Hey Sweden,

Good for you man. Hope you can get back to Tae Kwon Do.

How is your proportion? I know that some people start off with a very long pair of tibias. So it may look strange.

You need to start working!! Otherwise Dr. Sarin will be your only option for femur. Haha, jk

You probably remember my name, feel free to check me up on facebook. I think I have the proportion for another 8cm. My after LL tibias look just slightly longer than some people (eg. callus) pre-LL tibias.

I'm at 177cm but everyday when I go to the gym and look into the mirror, I just think how wonderful it would be to be another 3 inches taller. So for sure, I will take another 3 months off of work in late 2014 for this LL journey. The only question will be which doctor I will do this with.

Dr. Sarin still correspond with me and congratulated me on my recovery. His internal femur is 35k.

I haven't started to work yet.

I can hop all I want and run, but it looks terrible.
I've tried to jump on one leg as far as I could but I can only jump ~10cm. Absolutely terrible!!
It's the same in both legs.

Ankles are tight as hell, especially the right one.

I'm really undecided regarding my femurs.
Maybe 2015. Maybe.....

Nice to see you doing great Colin. Cheers.
(Machine: who are you?)

[Machine]

Aaaaaahhhh, my man 

Happy to see you!! Merry Xmas 

LOL thanks man ..!!

happy to see you too .. and belated Merry Xmas ..

[Machine]

Hey Machine,

If you are really L****, feel free to send me a text message through facebook.

L***** was a good friend of mine and I used to come downstair to chat quite often.

It's just that L***** was from Tibet and he spoke with a broken-english accent. And I never remember him criticizing Dr. Sarin.

yeah i m that guy , and my ancestor are from there but i was born and raised in india so that makes me more like indian i guess and i have never been to tibet cause of strict chinese rule .

LOL do you really think my english is broken but my roommate always use to say that my english is much better then almost every indians he met in india . Whenever i try to post anything i have to recheck and do correction of sentence or spelling which i m doing right now like this .

Yeah you are right , i never criticized openly cause i was afraid he might do something stupid . since i m just a local guy from India he won't give a s**t , but you guys are foreigner so you guys were his ticket to $$$$$ .
and moreover i really didn't knew about the business deal and stuff until this forum was created and i was really angry .
but i was trying to watch everyone from distance and i saw lot of politics and stuff , and i understand cause everyone will try to look out for themselves first .
anyways do not just jump anywhere for gods sake ... i have done extensive research about finding a good indian doctor who really knows how to do LL at a reasonable price and by far Dr Sarin or Dr Sringari are not even colse to 50% regarding knowledge about LL and complications comparing to those real LL doctors.

rest is up to you ..!!