Limb Lengthening Forum
Community Hangout => Off Topic => Topic started by: noname on March 26, 2016, 11:45:17 PM
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do you think that even after you reach average height or maybe above average height you will cure yourself from thinking about height everyday.
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do you think that even after you reach average height or maybe above average height you will cure yourself from thinking about height everyday.
The ex patients I have spoken to all said that they were cured of their height neurosis after their LL.
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The ex patients I have spoken to all said that they were cured of their height neurosis after their LL.
what is their starting height.
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what is their starting height.
163-170
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163-170
i don't wanna offend but how can a 163 guy lose his height insecurity after the surgery? did he lengthen an extremely big amount to get to average height? or maybe im just ungrateful for being 5'8
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I mean hey there are plenty of 5'7-5'8 guys I know of that never though about their height. They confessed to wanting to be taller, but then again I'm sure that's a sentiment almost anyone can have. So that's nice to know since it's my goal.
It's all about perspective dude. Are you really going to generalize and say that anyone even bellow a certain height will have a crap life? What kind of stupid logic is that?! Makes me wonder that you don't really have a firm grasp on what life has to offer and that this surgery isn't for you...
As of now:
I've already stopped given much of a crap about my height in some instances; I don't think about it all day like I used too (in fact I only really think about it when I'm visiting the forums now and again). Don't mistake this as being cured of my height neurosis, just surprisingly tamed. Reflecting back on a couple of months, man am I a different man all together now. Feels good :D
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It's because if I the 5'7 guy or the 5'3 guy will add 5-7cm (most added between 6-7), we both end up 5-7m taller than we were before. It's because not a single one of them did this to anything or anyone besides themselves... Think that you will get tons of girls by just being taller? Keep dreaming. Think you will get automatic respect from other men? Keep dreaming. As Catagni said in his consultation "People come to me with the stupidenst reasons: Girls, work, respect, social life... If you were a loser before operation you will be a loser afterwards... Just that now that you are taller, people will notice faster that you are a loser".
LL is not a magic cure for a miserable life. It's for improving not for changing or fixing.
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I mean hey there are plenty of 5'7-5'8 guys I know of that never though about their height. They confessed to wanting to be taller, but then again I'm sure that's a sentiment almost anyone can have. So that's nice to know since it's my goal.
It's all about perspective dude. Are you really going to generalize and say that anyone even bellow a certain height will have a crap life? What kind of stupid logic is that?! Makes me wonder that you don't really have a firm grasp on what life has to offer and that this surgery isn't for you...
As of now:
I've already stopped given much of a crap about my height in some instances; I don't think about it all day like I used too (in fact I only really think about it when I'm visiting the forums now and again). Don't mistake this as being cured of my height neurosis, just surprisingly tamed. Reflecting back on a couple of months, man am I a different man all together now. Feels good :D
i can understand it since me and a lot of other 5'8 guys never faced discrimination because of their height
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It's because if I the 5'7 guy or the 5'3 guy will add 5-7cm (most added between 6-7), we both end up 5-7m taller than we were before. It's because not a single one of them did this to anything or anyone besides themselves... Think that you will get tons of girls by just being taller? Keep dreaming. Think you will get automatic respect from other men? Keep dreaming. As Catagni said in his consultation "People come to me with the stupidenst reasons: Girls, work, respect, social life... If you were a loser before operation you will be a loser afterwards... Just that now that you are taller, people will notice faster that you are a loser".
LL is not a magic cure for a miserable life. It's for improving not for changing or fixing.
So if you are a winner , people will notice it faster too ?? 8)
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So if you are a winner , people will notice it faster too ?? 8)
That could be also true and is exactly what I am hoping for. ::)
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So if you are a winner , people will notice it faster too ?? 8)
That could be also true and is exactly what I am hoping for. ::)
Me too 8) Having a miserable life doesn't automatically make you a loser. Losers don't fight.
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I gained 7cm on femurs to be in the low 170s. Before, I used to think about height almost everyday. I made it my mission to size myself up to as many people as possible and consequently feel terrible about myself.
My height neurosis went away the day I had surgery since I had been waiting almost a decade to do LL. There was this incredible sense of relief when I woke up since I felt like I had been hiding and wasn't really living my life as a short man.
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i don't wanna offend but how can a 163 guy lose his height insecurity after the surgery? did he lengthen an extremely big amount to get to average height? or maybe im just ungrateful for being 5'8
Sorry to hear you have confidence issues at 5'8.
You don't understand how guys less than 170cm are able to become happy by going from very short to short? I mean.. you're no longer very short and you're taller than the average white woman. That's sort of thing warrants a celebration.
From personal experience, I have met about ~10 LLers in real life and only one guy was over 170cm to start.
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Sorry to hear you have confidence issues at 5'8.
You don't understand how guys less than 170cm are able to become happy by going from very short to short? I mean.. you're no longer very short and you're taller than the average white woman. That's sort of thing warrants a celebration.
From personal experience, I have met about ~10 LLers in real life and only one guy was over 170cm to start.
This.
I'm just under 5'8 and my life is better than most men I know, short or tall.
It is very very hard to justify LL at this height.
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I think LL doesnt come only from the actual height... But also from the knowledge that you can change your height. Once you do LL (No matter what starting height) most of the height neurosis will be cured because you have done the only thing that will allow you to change your height (upwards). Afterwards you should be at peace knowing you did everything possible in order to change your height.
I hope it will happen to me. When I was ignorant about LL I wasnt as bothered by my height (I did think once in a while "Wish I was taller") to a point where it affected my life in any way (Girls, work, socialy).
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I think LL doesnt come only from the actual height... But also from the knowledge that you can change your height. Once you do LL (No matter what starting height) most of the height neurosis will be cured because you have done the only thing that will allow you to change your height (upwards). Afterwards you should be at peace knowing you did everything possible in order to change your height.
I hope it will happen to me. When I was ignorant about LL I wasnt as bothered by my height (I did think once in a while "Wish I was taller") to a point where it affected my life in any way (Girls, work, socialy).
It seems like guys at our height have that one "big event" that sparks our height insecurities and then the world ends for awhile. I had instances where height got in the way, sure. But none of them really mattered.
Hurt feelings on my part, but that's about it. Not like I struggled to get laid with attractive women or couldn't find work. Hell, I took myself from homeless to millionaire at this height.
But then you have that one event, that one thing that plants the seed. Then you find the internet hate and it's game over.
I know I can live well at this height, I've done it. But LL is tempting because I CAN do it. I'm 100% certain that it would cure my height insecurity because it's almost gone now anyway.
LL is not necessary at this height though, not by a long shot.
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It seems like guys at our height have that one "big event" that sparks our height insecurities and then the world ends for awhile. I had instances where height got in the way, sure. But none of them really mattered.
Hurt feelings on my part, but that's about it. Not like I struggled to get laid with attractive women or couldn't find work. Hell, I took myself from homeless to millionaire at this height.
But then you have that one event, that one thing that plants the seed. Then you find the internet hate and it's game over.
I know I can live well at this height, I've done it. But LL is tempting because I CAN do it. I'm 100% certain that it would cure my height insecurity because it's almost gone now anyway.
LL is not necessary at this height though, not by a long shot.
are you literally a millionaire?
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are you literally a millionaire?
I think it's not important on here what he is or what he has.
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are you literally a millionaire?
Yes. But not super rich like DIFM is.
Why?
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I think it's not important on here what he is or what he has.
im just interested. i also didn't expect that there's a millionaire over here
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I think it's not important on here what he is or what he has.
I agree.
It only matters in the context of "life doesn't suck at 5'7-5'8 and if it does you are doing it wrong"
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I have to ask, is it really hard to, and I don't mean this in any disrespectful tone, grow a thicker set of skin? Especially when it comes to Internet hate, because it's all always so hyperbolic and overblown.
I bet we both can agree that real life isn't what the Internet says it is. So to that degree, and what you've said about yourself, I'd just say ignore those stupid comments; there's much more to a man then just a number..
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I have to ask, is it really hard to, and I don't mean this in any disrespectful tone, grow a thicker set of skin? Especially when it comes to Internet hate, because it's all always so hyperbolic and overblown.
I bet we both can agree that real life isn't what the Internet says it is. So to that degree, and what you've said about yourself, I'd just say ignore those stupid comments; there's much more to a man then just a number..
Everything on the internet is true, the internet told me so!
Was this directed at me?
I agree with you... I should be tougher.
I've said many times that I've never really faced the harsh stuff that men below my height can face. Life has been damn good, and I hate to think that any younger dudes are fretting over being 5'7-5'8 thinking they are screwed. I went through my entire 20's without a thought of my height.
To quote you: "If I was 5'7, I would of bought two BMW's instead of breaking my legs"
Thanks for the tough words man.
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Everything on the internet is true, the internet told me so!
Was this directed at me?
I agree with you... I should be tougher.
I've said many times that I've never really faced the harsh stuff that men below my height can face. Life has been damn good, and I hate to think that any younger dudes are fretting over being 5'7-5'8 thinking they are screwed. I went through my entire 20's without a thought of my height.
To quote you: "If I was 5'7, I would of bought two BMW's instead of breaking my legs"
Thanks for the tough words man.
No problem man. At this point though, it either be two Tesla Model 3s or 1 Model S... which is the choice I'm probably gonna make lol: LL or a brand new Tesla.
Anyways, yea I can understand the sentiment. One of things that helped me develop thicker skin was my support group of friends that I have. Support peeps they are.
The other thing that helped was fully realzing that I'm natural at my current height. I didn't shoot myself in the foot or anything, it was just the way it was meant to be. And while it sucks, it's a much better realization that thinking for the rest of your like that you made didn't reach a given potential; because in truth I haven't yet reached it... I haven't yet worked my ass off to reach it.
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I think part of it is also the whole "I did what I could" mentality. The 5'8" guy who hasn't gotten LL, but has been exposed to the possibility will always have that "I could be taller" thought in the back of his mind, while the 5'5" guy who is now 5'8" after LL doesn't think about that anymore since he's already gotten the surgery. Plus after a lifetime of viewing the world at 5'5", you'll definitely appreciate 5'8" more.
I don't wear lifts often anymore, but when I walk around in the city with them I still feel a world of difference than when I wear shoes with regular soles.
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It's possible to stop thinking about height. I've thought about height ever since I'd been discriminated against in school for my height. Always being picked last in basketball. Always being rejected by girls for my height. Always being the butt of people's short jokes. That stuff bothered me when I was younger, because I had the impression that looks and acceptance from your peers were the most important part of a person. After my teens were over, I realized that there's more to life than just looks. My height stopped being important as I started developing a better personality, and making more money. Girls were attracted to me despite me being short.
About four years ago, I researched LL out of curiosity. On the surface, it looked like something cool to do. I had braces before to fix my crooked teeth, so I figured that this would be similar to that. After reading several diaries, especially oldiebutgoldie's, I decided not to do it. It seemed like a lot of pain and suffering with so-so results at the end. The next two years after that event, I stopped thinking about my height. Everything was great. I wish my story ended there, and I lived happily ever after. I wish the same would happen to some of you.
About a year ago, I got back to the whole height thing again. And that's when I knew that this was going to be an ongoing problem. There was no trigger for it. My main issue was that I'm sort of a perfectionist and overachiever. And everything in my life was excellent, except for my height. It was the blemish that stood out like a black dot on a white piece of paper. So while I was able to put it in the back of my mind, eventually on a boring day, it would come back to haunt me.
And that's when I got the surgery to get this "blemish" removed permanently. And after the surgery, it's finally gone. I didn't get my "goal" height of 5'10"-5'11". But that's okay. 5'8"-5'9" is fine for me. I have the option to do tibias, but after going through the surgery, I realized that it was not worth it. I instead learned to accept myself, even though I'm still technically short if being short meant below average.
The way I got over my "perfectionist/overachiever" curse was that while I was sitting here in pain from my surgery I finally took a step back to look at what I achieved. And it was much greater than 99.9% of what most people spend their entire lives trying to do. That's why I said enough was enough. I'm physically abusing myself to try to "better" myself? F that.
That's when I cured my height neurosis. I think you get a wake up call when you're writhing in level 10 pain and hitting rock bottom. That's when you appreciate having a pain-free life much more. And also a greater appreciation for working legs.
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DIFM, is your legs ok now?
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DIFM,
I understand the whole, "black dot on a white piece of paper" thought process.
You are about 1" taller than me if you are 5'8-5'9.
You cured your height neurosis and accepted yourself after LL. (or during LL I suppose is more accurate)
I think the question is than, how could one accept themselves WITHOUT LL? (especially in the range of guys that are not that short, 5'6,5'7,5'8)
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After LL, yes, you will stop.
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After LL, yes, you will stop.
you're still pretty active on the forum. does this mean you're still thinking about your height everyday but more like "i'm feeling so blessed with my current height. i don't feel bad about it anymore!"? i guess most people on this forum thinks about their height often. but this doesn't mean that everybody feels miserable about his height. it can be positive too. i grew 1,5 cm (not permanent) by doing yoga excercises and i felt so happy lol. but i still consider myself as a 173 guy
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I'm actually really not that active. After my fracture I hadn't posted until the other day because of x rays.
I don't think about height any more, and despite the complications to feel blessed with my height, but I do still have a camaraderie with you all here, and have always thought back to before I did LL and how I felt unclear/uncertain about so much- So when I do post it is for the most part to help people who are in the same position I was: Feeling like they need LL but being uncertain about so very much.
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I'm actually really not that active. After my fracture I hadn't posted until the other day because of x rays.
I don't think about height any more, and despite the complications to feel blessed with my height, but I do still have a camaraderie with you all here, and have always thought back to before I did LL and how I felt unclear/uncertain about so much- So when I do post it is for the most part to help people who are in the same position I was: Feeling like they need LL but being uncertain about so very much.
what kind of life changes did you experience after getting taller? did people start threatening you better? did it made some improvements with dating and jobs? just the extern factors. not intern ones like mental health. i'm a natural 5'8 too so i wanna know what kind of life improvements i can expect
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For me it is huge changes. I already did very well with dating and with making first impressions/being intimidating, but there are definitely improvements in both those categories.
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For me it is huge changes. I already did very well with dating and with making first impressions/being intimidating, but there are definitely improvements in both those categories.
About your gate
Now you can walk normally
Without any soreness and complications?
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Best place for details is my thread. I currently have some irritation on my right leg. It is doubtful its anything serious after looking at x rays though.
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DIFM,
I understand the whole, "black dot on a white piece of paper" thought process.
You are about 1" taller than me if you are 5'8-5'9.
You cured your height neurosis and accepted yourself after LL. (or during LL I suppose is more accurate)
I think the question is than, how could one accept themselves WITHOUT LL? (especially in the range of guys that are not that short, 5'6,5'7,5'8)
I cured my height neurosis when I reached 5'8", and possibly even when I was a little over 5'7.
But prior to that, the way I cured it was that I read diaries where people were having "bad" results or having a hard time with the surgery and recovery. So becoming taller stopped being a rational option for me. Once I knew that there was no choice for me to get taller, I stopped thinking about getting taller. I then quickly accepted being short. It's like when a relative or close friend dies. You will be super sad about it at first, but eventually you realize that that person will never return. And then you learn to accept it. Acceptance is the last stage of grief.
My mistake was coming back to the forums years later and thinking that LL was a rational option again. Once that possibility of being taller hit me again, I threw away the acceptance and wanted to be taller. I shouldn't really call it a mistake, because I actually do like being taller. But I did sacrifice a lot for it. So the surgery to me is really more like giving up something to gain something else. It's not all 100% beneficial, whereas something like getting braces or lasik eye surgery were all mostly beneficial with minimum sacrifice.
I really really hope that they figure out a better way to make people taller and for a cheaper price. Then I'll be recommending LL. Because there's really no downside to being taller. But having tight legs and random pains is quickly getting annoying.
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I cured my height neurosis when I reached 5'8", and possibly even when I was a little over 5'7.
But prior to that, the way I cured it was that I read diaries where people were having "bad" results or having a hard time with the surgery and recovery. So becoming taller stopped being a rational option for me. Once I knew that there was no choice for me to get taller, I stopped thinking about getting taller. I then quickly accepted being short. It's like when a relative or close friend dies. You will be super sad about it at first, but eventually you realize that that person will never return. And then you learn to accept it. Acceptance is the last stage of grief.
My mistake was coming back to the forums years later and thinking that LL was a rational option again. Once that possibility of being taller hit me again, I threw away the acceptance and wanted to be taller. I shouldn't really call it a mistake, because I actually do like being taller. But I did sacrifice a lot for it. So the surgery to me is really more like giving up something to gain something else. It's not all 100% beneficial, whereas something like getting braces or lasik eye surgery were all mostly beneficial with minimum sacrifice.
I really really hope that they figure out a better way to make people taller and for a cheaper price. Then I'll be recommending LL. Because there's really no downside to being taller. But having tight legs and random pains is quickly getting annoying.
Thanks for the response.
I remember in your diary you had said that girls at the hotel were crushing on you, and that was just past the 5'7 mark if I recall correctly.
Yeah, the bad diaries terrify me. I tend to rationalize their outcomes by saying they had bad doctors or whatever.
Being able to afford it doesn't help either. I mean, I flew out to Miami and drove up to WPB in January just to drive by the Paley Institute. I didn't even get a consult. Spent the rest of the week getting drunk, exploring the keys, and lying around nked with the wife. (ended up meeting with a patient though, so wasn't a complete waste)
I climbed the tallest peak in my state the other day. Sat out over looking the landscape, freezing my a** off, thinking, "would I ever be able to come back up here after LL?"
Speaking as a guy that is a high 5'7, this place distorts the real life value of height. It really does. So do a lot of other places on the internet.
I stand 5'9 in my boots, so not sure I would even gain anything with LL, other than ego satisfaction. It's the thought of being 5'11 in my boots that gets to me.
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No but I'm sure I'll feel better