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Internal tibias - Dr Ito - 2017 - first PRECICE2 case in Japan
« on: December 17, 2017, 09:36:12 PM »

Hello, brave LLers.

I'm not good at English, so I'm sorry if it is difficult for you to understand my English.

I underwent left tibia lengthening surgery yesterday in Japan.

This was the first PRECICE2 surgery in Japan !

I will lengthen the legs while working, so I underwent a surgery of only left tibia first.

After several months I will be operated on right side.

It is about 12 hours after surgery. It is AM 6 o'clock now in Japan time. Immediately after surgery, the pain was strong, but fentanyl patch was prescribed, now the pain is slight, about 2/10 on the Pain scale.

I have heard that lengthening wil start 1-2 weeks later.

There is little information about the precice nail in Japan, and I want to borrow your help if questions come up in the future. I will study English. Thank you.


age:over 30
original height: secret
goal:5〜6cm
clinic name: Shirayuri beauty clinic ( Shirayuri means White Lily)
surgeon: Dr Ito
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First surgery: December 17, 2017 / left tibia (PRECICE2)
The right operation is after the left consolidation.
Goal: +6cm

I'm not good at English, so I'm sorry if it is difficult for you to understand my English.

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Re: Internal tibias - Dr Ito - 2017 - first PRECICE2 case in Japan
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2017, 09:39:06 PM »

Did doc recommended precice for Internal tibial lengthening or was only your choice?
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Re: Internal tibias - Dr Ito - 2017 - first PRECICE2 case in Japan
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2017, 09:47:08 PM »

How much will you have to pay for the whole surgery? Or yet what did they charge you for doing one leg at a time? I am just curious as I imagine Japan's living expenses are very high, for the majority, it is not cost effective nor wise to double the cost and time to heal. Also it is a very serious surgery, I don't know if you will be able to work as planned when you will be mentally and physically exhausted from the whole process and even during recovery. Then you will have to go back and do it all over again.
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Re: Internal tibias - Dr Ito - 2017 - first PRECICE2 case in Japan
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2017, 09:57:09 PM »

Did doc recommended precice for Internal tibial lengthening or was only your choice?

PRECICE was my strong request.
In Japan, there was only ISKD as an internal-type in the past.
I worried about iskd's “run away nail” problem. 
For this reason I requested the doctor to import the precise.
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First surgery: December 17, 2017 / left tibia (PRECICE2)
The right operation is after the left consolidation.
Goal: +6cm

I'm not good at English, so I'm sorry if it is difficult for you to understand my English.

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« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2017, 10:10:16 PM »

How much will you have to pay for the whole surgery? Or yet what did they charge you for doing one leg at a time? I am just curious as I imagine Japan's living expenses are very high, for the majority, it is not cost effective nor wise to double the cost and time to heal. Also it is a very serious surgery, I don't know if you will be able to work as planned when you will be mentally and physically exhausted from the whole process and even during recovery. Then you will have to go back and do it all over again.

Since the price of both legs is over 100,000 dollars, I can not recommend it except for those who live in Japan.
I know the person who lengthened the leg while working in Japan. I think that it would be possible to do desk work.
I would like to progress this journey somehow.
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First surgery: December 17, 2017 / left tibia (PRECICE2)
The right operation is after the left consolidation.
Goal: +6cm

I'm not good at English, so I'm sorry if it is difficult for you to understand my English.

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Re: Internal tibias - Dr Ito - 2017 - first PRECICE2 case in Japan
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2017, 10:37:06 PM »

Thank you for sharing your experience here.

I wish you the best of luck with your lengthening. Very interesting to have someone from Japan and doing Precice.
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« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2017, 10:51:33 PM »

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Re: Internal tibias - Dr Ito - 2017 - first PRECICE2 case in Japan
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2017, 11:47:12 PM »

I wish you well in your journey regardless. Thankyou for answering my questions.
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Re: Internal tibias - Dr Ito - 2017 - first PRECICE2 case in Japan
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2017, 12:56:12 AM »

Thank you for sharing your experience here.

I wish you the best of luck with your lengthening. Very interesting to have someone from Japan and doing Precice.

Thank you for your encouragement!
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First surgery: December 17, 2017 / left tibia (PRECICE2)
The right operation is after the left consolidation.
Goal: +6cm

I'm not good at English, so I'm sorry if it is difficult for you to understand my English.

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Re: Internal tibias - Dr Ito - 2017 - first PRECICE2 case in Japan
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2017, 12:59:16 AM »

I wish you well in your journey regardless. Thankyou for answering my questions.

You are welcome. Thank you!
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First surgery: December 17, 2017 / left tibia (PRECICE2)
The right operation is after the left consolidation.
Goal: +6cm

I'm not good at English, so I'm sorry if it is difficult for you to understand my English.

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Re: Internal tibias - Dr Ito - 2017 - first PRECICE2 case in Japan
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2017, 07:00:21 AM »

POD1  16:00

I have post-dural puncture headache from today’s afternoon.

I have a headache at sitting or standing, so I can not practice walking enough.

I took caffeine and acetaminophen. And I am resting now.

My left leg do not hurt so much at rest, but it hurts when moved.

I have appetite, no need for drip, but I am worried how long this headache will last.
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First surgery: December 17, 2017 / left tibia (PRECICE2)
The right operation is after the left consolidation.
Goal: +6cm

I'm not good at English, so I'm sorry if it is difficult for you to understand my English.

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Re: Internal tibias - Dr Ito - 2017 - first PRECICE2 case in Japan
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2017, 09:59:44 AM »

I had a humongous headache when getting up, it did not pass after 7-10 days so I had to transform blood from my hand to where the needle was. This happens to a lot of pregnant women supposedly, so ask about that procedure. It was some insane 10 minutes where i had to stand up on the bed with a huge headache meanwhile a big needle entered my back.
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« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2017, 09:56:07 PM »

hi, InferiorityComplex!
your treatment is called blood patch therapy.
It is most effective thearapy for post dural puncture headache.

Today POD 3  6:20, I received Brad Patch therapy.  If this treatment is effective, I will be discharged from the hospital this evening.

The leg pain is 2/10(resting), 4/10(moving).
The painkiller is a fentanyl patch and Tramcet(Tramadol hydrochloride/Acetaminophen)4-6T/day.
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First surgery: December 17, 2017 / left tibia (PRECICE2)
The right operation is after the left consolidation.
Goal: +6cm

I'm not good at English, so I'm sorry if it is difficult for you to understand my English.

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Re: Internal tibias - Dr Ito - 2017 - first PRECICE2 case in Japan
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2017, 12:36:17 AM »

Not a lot of Japanese posters on here, glad that you're here on the forums and that you're doing well. Cosmetic surgery in general is still relatively taboo in Japan, and limb lengthening much more so, so it's very hard to find information about CLL.

I'm fluent in Japanese, so let me know if you ever need anything translated.

(Note to others, the below is pretty much the same thing as above.)

過去何名か日本人のメンバーが質問などをしていましたが、keyさんは当掲示板での初の日本人経験者なので、非常に貴重な日記になると思います。もし翻訳など必要があったら気軽に質問してください。
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Re: Internal tibias - Dr Ito - 2017 - first PRECICE2 case in Japan
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2017, 03:24:16 AM »

I didn't know Shirayuri started to use PRECICE though I also live in Japan. It's really interesting to see your experiences, keep it up mate!
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« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2017, 04:30:21 AM »

Hello android!

I also write this diary as a part of English study,
If I'm in trouble with English I'd like to ask for your help.

I think the first Japanese who underwent LL surgery at this forum is ocy.

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=3734.msg56843#msg56843

ocy is great LL veteran and very kind guy.

Android, do you plan to undergo surgery in the United States?
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First surgery: December 17, 2017 / left tibia (PRECICE2)
The right operation is after the left consolidation.
Goal: +6cm

I'm not good at English, so I'm sorry if it is difficult for you to understand my English.

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« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2017, 04:42:14 AM »

I didn't know Shirayuri started to use PRECICE though I also live in Japan. It's really interesting to see your experiences, keep it up mate!

Hello ketchum.  unexpectedly here are many Japanese.
The precice nail is not listed in the clinic web at the present time. Probably if my progress goes well, it will also be listed in the treatment menu.
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First surgery: December 17, 2017 / left tibia (PRECICE2)
The right operation is after the left consolidation.
Goal: +6cm

I'm not good at English, so I'm sorry if it is difficult for you to understand my English.

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« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2017, 06:38:39 PM »

Hello android!

I also write this diary as a part of English study,
If I'm in trouble with English I'd like to ask for your help.

I think the first Japanese who underwent LL surgery at this forum is ocy.

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=3734.msg56843#msg56843

ocy is great LL veteran and very kind guy.

Android, do you plan to undergo surgery in the United States?



Great idea, you'll learn English in no time as long as you have a need for it. For me, I really wanted friends I could talk to, so it only took a couple years to become fluent in English. Granted that was over 20 years ago...

Wow, I had no idea he posted on here, I remember reading his blog a while back! Interesting to know that he's a member here.

I'm still undecided on the doctor, but probably not in the US as it's quite expensive. I'm planning on taking a year off of work, so I don't need to be here either. Planning on surgery date around June/July 2018.
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Re: Internal tibias - Dr Ito - 2017 - first PRECICE2 case in Japan
« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2017, 12:44:10 AM »


Great idea, you'll learn English in no time as long as you have a need for it. For me, I really wanted friends I could talk to, so it only took a couple years to become fluent in English. Granted that was over 20 years ago...

Wow, I had no idea he posted on here, I remember reading his blog a while back! Interesting to know that he's a member here.

I'm still undecided on the doctor, but probably not in the US as it's quite expensive. I'm planning on taking a year off of work, so I don't need to be here either. Planning on surgery date around June/July 2018.

I really think that I can not study English without a necessity. It is splendid that your English became fluent in several years.

It is a good idea to take a year off of work while the leg lengthening. I thought that I could do desk work, but now I feel a little regret.


POD3(yesterday)
Pain level 
headacche: 5-6/10 → 1-2/10   
left leg: 3/10、swelling++

Blood patch therapy worked very quickly for my headache yesterday, and on the same day I was discharged from the hospital!
But living with one foot alone is more difficult than I expected. 
I am a bit tired today, I will post again later.
« Last Edit: December 21, 2017, 01:30:52 AM by key »
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First surgery: December 17, 2017 / left tibia (PRECICE2)
The right operation is after the left consolidation.
Goal: +6cm

I'm not good at English, so I'm sorry if it is difficult for you to understand my English.

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Re: Internal tibias - Dr Ito - 2017 - first PRECICE2 case in Japan
« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2017, 03:27:15 PM »

POD 4

Pain level:3/10、swelling++
(headache has compleely gone.)

I took 6 tablets of Tramcet a day

The swelling of left leg improved a bit better than yesterday.
Side effects of painkillers tended to constipate me, but I defecated for the first time after surgery :)
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First surgery: December 17, 2017 / left tibia (PRECICE2)
The right operation is after the left consolidation.
Goal: +6cm

I'm not good at English, so I'm sorry if it is difficult for you to understand my English.

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Re: Internal tibias - Dr Ito - 2017 - first PRECICE2 case in Japan
« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2017, 06:24:43 PM »

Glad to hear you're doing well key, good reminder about the constipation!

I hope that your pain and swelling will go down enough that you can concentrate on your work. It's going to be tough, but it'll be worth it.
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Re: Internal tibias - Dr Ito - 2017 - first PRECICE2 case in Japan
« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2017, 03:19:00 PM »

Hello Android!
I am encouraged by your comment.


POD5

pain level 4/10 
swelling++,left calf circumference 37cm. right is  only 33cm

I had some problems today.

When I received delivery, I was staggering and loading my left leg, so my pain worsened.

The load capacity of my device is about 22 kg.

The possibility that the Precice2 was broken by the load can not be said to be zero.

I would like to receive X-ray exams as soon as possible.

Today I took  Tramcet 8T a day.
The fentanyl patch which had been sticked was lost by peeling off unnoticed.

In other words, my pain killer is now just only tramcet.
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First surgery: December 17, 2017 / left tibia (PRECICE2)
The right operation is after the left consolidation.
Goal: +6cm

I'm not good at English, so I'm sorry if it is difficult for you to understand my English.

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Re: Internal tibias - Dr Ito - 2017 - first PRECICE2 case in Japan
« Reply #23 on: December 24, 2017, 05:01:50 AM »

Hello Key,

I'm a japanese woman living in tokyo.
I really appreciate your info on Precise2 in Japan!!
I have some questions, could you please answer them whenever you can.

1.  Is Dr Ito still working with the doctor Tobita who was working at Nishi-shinnjyuku clinic?
2.  Is Dr Ito the only choise at the shirayuri beauty clinic, or is it possible to choose of Dr Tobita, who is supposed to be more experienced in this operation?
3.  In which hospital are you staying at? I remember a several years ago Dr Ito's clinic did not have a facility to hospitalize patients.
4.  Is it true that after getting out the hospitalization, Dr Ito is only available very late at night since he so buzy with other facial cosmetic surgeries?

sorry asking so many, but I am too intimidated to ask this type of quiestion directly to Dr Ito...

 
 
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« Reply #24 on: December 24, 2017, 02:48:13 PM »

Hello Key,

I'm a japanese woman living in tokyo.
I really appreciate your info on Precise2 in Japan!!
I have some questions, could you please answer them whenever you can.

1.  Is Dr Ito still working with the doctor Tobita who was working at Nishi-shinnjyuku clinic?
2.  Is Dr Ito the only choise at the shirayuri beauty clinic, or is it possible to choose of Dr Tobita, who is supposed to be more experienced in this operation?
3.  In which hospital are you staying at? I remember a several years ago Dr Ito's clinic did not have a facility to hospitalize patients.
4.  Is it true that after getting out the hospitalization, Dr Ito is only available very late at night since he so buzy with other facial cosmetic surgeries?

sorry asking so many, but I am too intimidated to ask this type of quiestion directly to Dr Ito...

Hello, chibii!

I will answer your questions as far as I know.

1. Yes

2. I guess Dr Ito is only chief operator, Dr Tobita can operate you as assistant.  But I do not know well about this, so please ask Dr Ito directly.

3. Shirayuri Beauty Clinic has hospitalization facilities in the same building.

4. I thought so, but I still do not know well because I only had one consultation after discharge from the hospital.
That time was not midnight.

If you pm to me, I may reply a little bit more in Japanese.

God bless
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First surgery: December 17, 2017 / left tibia (PRECICE2)
The right operation is after the left consolidation.
Goal: +6cm

I'm not good at English, so I'm sorry if it is difficult for you to understand my English.

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« Reply #25 on: December 25, 2017, 06:33:17 AM »

Hello, chibii!

I will answer your questions as far as I know.

1. Yes

2. I guess Dr Ito is only chief operator, Dr Tobita can operate you as assistant.  But I do not know well about this, so please ask Dr Ito directly.

3. Shirayuri Beauty Clinic has hospitalization facilities in the same building.

4. I thought so, but I still do not know well because I only had one consultation after discharge from the hospital.
That time was not midnight.

If you pm to me, I may reply a little bit more in Japanese.

God bless

Hi Key,

I've tried to reply to your PM a few times but somehow they dont show up...
Did you receive them?
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« Reply #26 on: December 25, 2017, 06:58:46 AM »

Hi Key,

I've tried to reply to your PM a few times but somehow they dont show up...
Did you receive them?

Yes, I received them.
I sent last PM to you at 03:11:54 PM. Please re-check.
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First surgery: December 17, 2017 / left tibia (PRECICE2)
The right operation is after the left consolidation.
Goal: +6cm

I'm not good at English, so I'm sorry if it is difficult for you to understand my English.

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Re: Internal tibias - Dr Ito - 2017 - first PRECICE2 case in Japan
« Reply #27 on: December 26, 2017, 04:03:50 AM »

Dec 24
POD 7

Pain level 4/10

This day was the first consultation day after discharge.

I got X-ray examination, there was no problem with nail.

I have symptoms of pain and slight fever, but Doctor said that it is a general course range.
I was relieved.

I will consult the doctor again in a few days and lengthening will start.
I am a little anxious but I am looking forward to it.

God bless,
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First surgery: December 17, 2017 / left tibia (PRECICE2)
The right operation is after the left consolidation.
Goal: +6cm

I'm not good at English, so I'm sorry if it is difficult for you to understand my English.

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« Reply #28 on: December 27, 2017, 09:03:28 AM »

Dec 26
POD 9

I got the stitches in my leg removed.
Wound is small and clean, there are no signs of infection.

I had the first distraction session on that day!

ERC is heavy, I have a bit of pain from compression, but the lengthening itself does not hurt at all. Great!

I lengthened only 0.25mm.

After the next day I will lengthen the leg 0.25 mm 3 times a day (0.75mm/day).

I will report again after the next X-ray examination.

God bless,
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First surgery: December 17, 2017 / left tibia (PRECICE2)
The right operation is after the left consolidation.
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I'm not good at English, so I'm sorry if it is difficult for you to understand my English.

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Re: Internal tibias - Dr Ito - 2017 - first PRECICE2 case in Japan
« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2018, 10:42:58 AM »

Jan 7 , 2017   
POD 21

It was a re-examination day yesterday.
I took a x-ray examination.
The doctor said that the left tibia was lengthened exactly and its bone formation was also satisfactory.
I will continue distraction of 0.75 mm per day as well as the former.

I attained 1 cm of leg lengthening today ! It's a little milestone.

Although it is now almost favorable progress, I have a pain in a knee and cannot fully extend a knee.
I was instructed to perform a stretch enough by the doctor.
There are still no signs of a ballerina foot.

Is there any person who uses a knee brace at the time of leg lengthening here?

http://surgicalsolutionspr.com/store/post-op-knee-bracing/tri-panel-knee-immobilizer-brace/
This is useful for prevention of knee Contracture?


God bless,
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First surgery: December 17, 2017 / left tibia (PRECICE2)
The right operation is after the left consolidation.
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Re: Internal tibias - Dr Ito - 2017 - first PRECICE2 case in Japan
« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2018, 01:06:32 PM »

Hello

Congratulations on reaching 1cm. I live in Japan too and would love to support you if I can. I completed LL many years ago successfully so it's great to see a Precise patient operated on in Japan.

A few questions that immediately come to mind.

1. Were you flexible before the operation? If not, devote your time to stretching your calf muscle regularly.

2. Did you doctor recommend the knee brace for the link you posted? I'd think it's best to focus on stretching than restricting range of motion but follow your doctors instryctions.

3. Are you mobile? Are you using crutches to get to work etc. To the combi etc

4. Are you free for a chat via skype or even a meet face to face?

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