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[Kangaroo]

You never cared about your height until you immersed yourself in a toxic trolling culture that doesn't match reality.  There's your problem.  Crap like Tinder is 80% guys who swipe right on every girl.

Like the guy who didn't care about being muscular until he started watching pro wrestling, and starts thinking of himself as a puny wimp who had better dedicate his life to bodybuilding or he will never be good enough.

(That guy was me in the early 2000s by the way.  Getting LL and watching what happened to guys I idolized like Eddie Guerrero and Chris Benoit cured me of that form of body dysmorphia.)  Luckily for you at your height, all you need is a reality check to be cured of yours.

I am missing the days when we were opening the ways for various subjects in the last century huh? In that century people were caring way more about your aptitudes and achievements, substituted with obsessions into face build and height and similar bull s by the more and more intoxicating modern ideologies.

[AllinStryde]

OP keeps seeing lanklet zoomer phaggots with broccoli hair out and about in groups of 1 guy and 3 girls and gets the idea that all of them are tall as sheet and that feeds his height neurosis

relax OP, as height is on a bell curve, its a statistical fact that short young guys do exist in massive quantities, but they are more than likely at home pornhubmaxxing and videogamemaxxing as current generation of women have no filter when it comes to freely stating their true opinion of all vertically disadvantaged men so they see no point in playing a rigged game in a society that hates them

oh well.

no other way to fix height neurosis but with LL, therapy is a scam, and it'll never leave the back of your mind every time a tall guy passes by and towers over you

DO IT

please post a picture of that first part so we can get a visual reference, lol

[JJ299]

I am 173 (5' and I don't feel short just average. I think it's just you filtering out shorter people and focusing on " Oh that guy is taller than me ".

[Itsme]

Well, it's not just zoomers but their generation is a lot taller I have noticed.

Also,women even in my age group (I'm 37) have no issue in dating much younger men which leaves older shorter guys like me out in the dust.

I never cared much about my height till I immersed myself in Internet culture and dating. I had a sudden moment of clarity and realized something I never even thought about probably affected my life completely.

It was like a smack in the face and a hand around my neck.

I see from your signature you have had LL, has it improved your life a lot? I'm at the height you are now basic and still feel short. Seems like anything under 6ft will be looked at as short.

Sorry for the offense, it's a bit harsh, but you're telling yourself something that's not true in your case. I think you're just ugly with no other qualities women like to be honest. Height is a thing, yes but not at 5'9". I am a weak 5'10" and i get girls left and right, nearly zero rejection and never had a single girl or even person commenting about my height, i am from Germany btw.

If you have problems at 5'9" nothing will change, if you magically grow a few inches more overnight, you won't wake up a desirable man, that's an illusion. In my apartment complex live some single guys with clearly above average height. 5 are about 6'3" to 6'6" and I haven't seen them with a single woman let alone any social contact in years.

Height alone will not make you more attractive, but it can destroy you if you are too short (5'9" fo sure isn't). Height is a bonus to your overall attractiveness. I never see ugly or average looking but tall guys with very hot chicks here in Germany. But i see hot chicks with attractive 5'8"+ guys tons of times.

[SpeedDialer]

I really dont understand where this average of 5'9 came from here in America.

Every other man I see seems to be 6ft or more.

Every other guy is 6ft or taller

[sixfootandhalf]

At 182.88cm you would be taller than approximately 82% of men

At 183.5 that rises to 85% of men

At 185 that rises to 90% of men

If you're 6'0 you'd be taller than 82% of men
6'1 taller than 90% of men
Between the two, you're getting close to being in the top 10% of height

[Ballerman]

I am 5'7 and from germoney too. I do pull women with my confidence and
pretty face There is hope boys, dont give up and become depressed...
Hit the gym, get ur life together and women will give u a chance.
I have women show interest from time to time. Im a funny guy too
which helps to break the ice. Many people here have a bias towards height.
And thats mostly because u participate in the toxic internet culture.
You develop body dysmorphia...    Online Dating is for perfect looking men.
So what? You have other things going for u. I have a career as engineer and
women love the lifestyle i can provide with my money. It gives them status.
Taking her to Paris on the weekend, trust me, that pussy will be all over you,
Riding u like a rollercoaster. She wants to secure u...

[dream173]

Where do you live in the States? The Latino male population brings down the average height a bit. White American males are 5'10 on average.

[LibGen]

It is just your Volontier

[oklama]

All the younger guys now are tall because we are finally seeing the repercussions of women's "6 feet or more" requirement for their partners.  It's producing a taller generation.  Pretty soon the narrative will be " 6'4" or nobody" from women.  And that will continue the trend.  Even middle school boys on average are like 5'8" - 5'10" now, no joke.

the truly height obsessed generation of women is just now starting to have kids, and because of the natural height distribution of men, the average can't be shifted that much in a single generation. we will see the American average move to 5'10 or 5'11 buts its not getting past that anytime soon

[Quintet]

the truly height obsessed generation of women is just now starting to have kids, and because of the natural height distribution of men, the average can't be shifted that much in a single generation. we will see the American average move to 5'10 or 5'11 buts its not getting past that anytime soon

That is true.

And 'If you do not reach their 6' threshold you can't have kids' per se is an incel ideology, otherwise we will see no men under 6' have kids and all of the men who have kids are 6' in the future which is obviously ridiculous(and who says 'If you don't reach the girl's standard you can't have a relationship with her? Of course only when you are too deviated from their stereotypes of an ideal partner and even in this case there are still some possbilities that you can date with them. Just think about it. Every girls want a 6'1, jacky, and rich guy to be her partner, so all of the guys out of line with this stereotype are phased out of the dating pool?), and dating =/= marriage. There are many toxic girls now who would like to have 30cm height difference which will of course disgust some tall men because they will take into account the 'contamination' of their genes.

So genetic selection will not increase the average height(the reason why Netherlands increased their average height that much by genetic selection was that the government imposed the policy that short men could not have kids onto Dutches brutally so of course the gene pool improved. But clearly in nowadays Democractic world, if the government replicated this policy it would invoke a protest. Even China and N.Korea would not like to enact such stupid policies.

And, the West is a massive venue of immigrations, which means the countries which are 'suffering from' the immigrations of races with lower genetic average heights are being detered from getting taller. 

[Bournelli]

180cm is not tall all over the world, its average or slightly above In most of the world, only tall in shorter countries. but at 180cm if you still have height dysphoria I think there is a deeper cause to your issues.

Dude, only very several counties have average heights over 180cm, or I can say even an average height over 170cm can warrant your country to be 'well above average' tier in the rank. You don't take into account a lot of African, Southern Asian countries, Southeastern Asian countries, and Middle-East Asian countries, etc.? Even 165-170cm is a respectable height there.

[oklama]

Dude, only very several counties have average heights over 180cm, or I can say even an average height over 170cm can warrant your country to be 'well above average' tier in the rank. You don't take into account a lot of African, Southern Asian countries, Southeastern Asian countries, and Middle-East Asian countries, etc.? Even 165-170cm is a respectable height there.

im not doubting this stat, it just doent give you the classification as "tall" just being above average doesn't make you tall, just like being below average doesn't make you short, you have to decently far in either direction

[Werewolf]

It is just you and your mental illness.

I agree.

[HappyDrunk]

I agree 1000%.

What's even more depressing is even girls' average height has increased quite dramatically. I am 5'6" and I wear 1.25 inch lifts in my shoes and yet I still see a lot of girls out in public that are at least 3-4 inches taller than me. Probably more often than I see girls that are 3-4 inches shorter than me. I frequently even see groups of of 3 or 4 teenage girls and the shortest one is my height or slightly taller. I guess that's the result of gen x women refusing to procreate with a man that is under 6'2". I live in the midwest.

[Bournelli]

I agree 1000%.

What's even more depressing is even girls' average height has increased quite dramatically. I am 5'6" and I wear 1.25 inch lifts in my shoes and yet I still see a lot of girls out in public that are at least 3-4 inches taller than me. Probably more often than I see girls that are 3-4 inches shorter than me. I frequently even see groups of of 3 or 4 teenage girls and the shortest one is my height or slightly taller. I guess that's the result of gen x women refusing to procreate with a man that is under 6'2". I live in the midwest.

When did all of the incels crowd into this forum?? gen x women refusing to procreate with a man that is under 6'2?? You can't be serious.