Limb Lengthening Forum
Community Hangout => Off Topic => Topic started by: Descreteuser on November 17, 2014, 04:23:50 AM
-
Being happy is the most important thing in life.. If someone said to you that you can choose either 1. To be happy but have little money or 2. Be extremely unhappy and insecure with a lot of money.. What would you pick.. I know I'd pick happiness every time.. If being happy means investing your hard earned money to make you your wanted height and get rid of those insecurities than I say go for it 100%. You can't put a price on happiness.. I'm getting lengthening done soon.. And I tell ya I haven't been happy for a long time.. But once I finish my surgery you won't be able to wipe the smile of my face.. I will be happy and more confident and my insecurities will be gone.. So whether you short, average or tall if doing this surgery will bring you happiness than go for it.. Don't let anyone else's oppinion stop you..
-
How tall is your idle height, And how much will you lengthen?
-
Currently 181cm going to 185/186cm.. I'm also out of proportion which I'm insecure about.. I have short legs and long body.. Having short legs also makes you appear shorter than you are
-
It's just hilarious that there are more above average to tall people on this forum who want to get taller than actual short people.
-
Currently 181cm going to 185/186cm.. I'm also out of proportion which I'm insecure about.. I have short legs and long body.. Having short legs also makes you appear shorter than you are
Whats your sitting height and wingspan?
I am not trying to discriminate against taller people or judge anyone, But i swear... This forum now has more 179cm+ members rather than short people by each passing day ;D ;D ;D
Furthermore i wish you the best of luck on your journey, Remember to keep us updated!
-
Seriously though if you're average to tall and are so unhappy then chances are you're not going to be happy after lengthening because you're just being a wuss in life. It's not like you have to deal with any actual discrimination or drawbacks with your height. It's just whining that you're not getting the easy pass that noticeably tall people get.
-
My wingspan is 181cm.. My sitting height is 94cm which means my legs are at 87cm.. An extra 4 or 5cm to my legs will put me close to proportion and at the same time to my ideal height..
-
I've been called short plenty of times.. Even girls who are slot shorter than me will say it.. If your insecure about it than it lingers with you every hour of every day.. So unless you have suffered from this than u can't judge.. It's just like telling a depressed person not to be depressed.. Girls get boob jobs all the time.. It makes them feel better.. Why is that not frowned upon as much.. Limb lengthening should be the same.. If a boob job makes a girl happy about themselves than good for them.. Same should go for limb lengthening..
-
You're 5'11.5 and trying to convince yourself and everyone here that you're short and need leg lengthening. That's just facepalm worthy. The fact that you compare leg lengthening with a boob job means you haven't even researched the procedure seriously enough. Boob jobs won't potentially give you permanent problems like nerve damage, chronic pain, potentially make you need to amputate a limb or two, etc. Why not work on other aspects of your personality instead of possibly destroying your life for something that will barely make a difference.
-
I've been called short plenty of times.. Even girls who are slot shorter than me will say it.. If your insecure about it than it lingers with you every hour of every day.. So unless you have suffered from this than u can't judge.. It's just like telling a depressed person not to be depressed.. Girls get boob jobs all the time.. It makes them feel better.. Why is that not frowned upon as much.. Limb lengthening should be the same.. If a boob job makes a girl happy about themselves than good for them.. Same should go for limb lengthening..
Yes, But imagine being 165-170 and aiming for your dream height at 180cm, And you've been discriminated against your whole life, People look down on you and say that you've got a Napoleon complex, And some guy at 181-182cm comes and complains of height discrimination, You get why they would be upset, No ?
Don't mind the short girls, They try to overcompensate for their own short height (which is sad) And it doesn't even work that way, If there is a great height difference between parents the children will end up short ;D
You should be fine adding 4-5cm, But i wouldn't go over it since your proportions are normal for your height. And you will have a negative ape index with your wingspan and most men have 3-4 inches higher wingspan than height.
-
And where is it that you encounter those cunts calling you short as a regularity at 5'11?
-
I've researched it for the past 2 years.. 4cm is a safe range to increase.. I'm aware of the risks and have spoken to my doctor and heard of past experiences with him.. It will change my life.. I will be happy.. And that's all that matters to me
-
I think the problem lies elsewhere. Not your height.
You are legitimately tall. I have no idea why you would let some people call you short and start to believe it yourself.
No one would call a 180+ guy short. You must be hearing things.
-
Whats your sitting height and wingspan?
I am not trying to discriminate against taller people or judge anyone, But i swear... This forum now has more 179cm+ members rather than short people by each passing day ;D ;D ;D
Furthermore i wish you the best of luck on your journey, Remember to keep us updated!
You have no right to disapprove of 179CM people wanting LL when you yourself are 177CM. That's really not a noticeable difference and a difference of 2CM will not be the difference between having height neurosis and not having it, in most cases.
-
My wingspan is 181cm.. My sitting height is 94cm which means my legs are at 87cm.. An extra 4 or 5cm to my legs will put me close to proportion and at the same time to my ideal height..
You don't have short legs. I am 179 CM with a 185-186CM wingspan and a 96-97CM sittin height and I look totally normal. At my natural height, I wear US 30 or 32 inseam pants. I still look pretty normal with lifts that make me 188CM and 34 US inseam pants, though.
People do call me tall once in a while at 179, especially girls. It's definitely nowhere near short. I would just really like to be taller for personal reasons that are detailed in other posts.
-
wow this guy has convinced some of u that girls are putting him down for his height!
This all lies. this guy and other guys who are 5'9+ can't face the fact that they are not as good as other average to tall people and start blaming it on their height.
I hope u guys go ahead with your LL (and with Paley) so u can blow away ur money or get your weak brains in debt.
let ace it average-tall boys, if you are still not succeeding at your current height then you need other forms of surgery (facial or penis :D) PLUS social skills.
that girl who said you were short must have thought it was better to tell you that than tell you the truth.
Most girls wont say you have small penis or that you don't have enough money to wine and date them but they will say other things like he is too skinny or is not tall enough. haaha ah aha h aha aha ha
sorry to break it down to you guys.
to say that you will be a far much better man going from 181cm to 185cm is the MOST STUPID thing I have ever heard.
I feel as equally ridiculous just responding to your topic and comments. What a waste of every1s time.
-
You have no right to disapprove of 179CM people wanting LL when you yourself are 177CM. That's really not a noticeable difference and a difference of 2CM will not be the difference between having height neurosis and not having it, in most cases.
And where the fak did i say that i disapprove of 179cm people wanting LL, I said that more and more people of higher average to relatively tall people (185.5cm) I count myself in this group, want to do LL. STOP TWISTING MY WORDS!
I have nothing against anyone, Regardless of current height wanting to do LL.
-
And where the fak did i say that i disapprove of 179cm people wanting LL, I said that more and more people of higher average to relatively tall people (185.5cm)
Sorry. I just though that there was strong disapproval implied through your post, otherwise you wouldn't have made your "cutoff" for tall members vs shorter members 179CM. I think 183 is a better arbitrary cutoff, since that height becomes average or above average everywhere, and meets the 6 foot mark that so many crave.
-
Wow thought there would be more supportive people out there.. I know it's not short but if I'm willing to pay and endure the pain than whys everyone putting me down.. It's a thing I've been planning for years and I've decided to do it.. Be supportive or don't say anything at all
-
wow this guy has convinced some of u that girls are putting him down for his height!
This all lies. this guy and other guys who are 5'9+ can't face the fact that they are not as good as other average to tall people and start blaming it on their height.
I hope u guys go ahead with your LL (and with Paley) so u can blow away ur money or get your weak brains in debt.
let ace it average-tall boys, if you are still not succeeding at your current height then you need other forms of surgery (facial or penis :D) PLUS social skills.
that girl who said you were short must have thought it was better to tell you that than tell you the truth.
Most girls wont say you have small penis or that you don't have enough money to wine and date them but they will say other things like he is too skinny or is not tall enough. haaha ah aha h aha aha ha
sorry to break it down to you guys.
to say that you will be a far much better man going from 181cm to 185cm is the MOST STUPID thing I have ever heard.
I feel as equally ridiculous just responding to your topic and comments. What a waste of every1s time.
And how about people like me, Wanting to be taller for self-image?
I couldn't care less what other people think about me and my proportions&height.
Like i have said before i value my own opinion the most, I feel sorry for people that do this for larger dating pool or whatever, I have experienced heightism 2-3 times in my adult life. I don't consider myself short, Maybe lower average.
And if someone doesn't like you b/c of you'r height, Then whats the f**king point in doing LL to be with someone so shallow?
No one wants your support, But its better to keep your mouth shut rather than spiting hate, You sound very bitter about this, Like he stole your height.
-
Having been around the world post-LL and then coming back to the west, I can state (which should be obvious) without doubt that your height will be relative to the masses of the country. In Mexico and India I felt absolutely giantess at 182-184cm that it felt grotesque to be that tall. Now that I've been back living and working in the states and Canada I feel downright average and still often feel small next to both men and women. At work I am still midrange height level at best. There are a ton of 188+cm people in these countries - not a lot you can do about that. It would be simpler to move to a different county than aspire to that realm of height, I suppose...
-
I'm suprised with the lack of support.. I was never asking for peoples negative oppinions.. I was simply giving a positive oppion to anyone else who was thinking of doing it.. I'm an average height guy wanting self confidence which will turn make me a very happy person despite what anyone else thinks of it
-
JUST DO IT. :)
Im average asian guy as 177 and also want 8 cm more
Whatever they said, keep in your mind and make yoir own decision .
Become taller = more happiness
Cheer
-
JUST DO IT. :)
Im average asian guy as 177 and also want 8 cm more
Whatever they said, keep in your mind and make yoir own decision .
Become taller = more happiness
Cheer
Since when is 177 average for asian?
-
Since when is 177 average for asian?
there's a 6'0 Asian guy here who wants LL ;D
-
In capital city and
new generation maybe a little bit higher
Teenager with good family now 180
Not bias , but it upon region
In Asia , in big city (east and soutth east asia)
Average in capital city is higher than every part
Then other region bring average down
In Thailand now 17-20 years old guy are 174-181 (only capital)
In soeul now 17 - 20 year old guy 178-183
In Beijing now 17-20 years old guys are173-179
Do not look for whole country
To wittness ur eyes you can see them in university
Since my 177 is also small in capital society
but a lot bigger when compare with people from other province
But also in other part average can go down for 5 cm
-
In capital city and
new generation maybe a little bit higher
Teenager with good family now 180
Not bias , but it upon region
In Asia , in big city (east and soutth east asia)
Average in capital city is higher than every part
Then other region bring average down
In Thailand now 17-20 years old guy are 174-181 (only capital)
In soeul now 17 - 20 year old guy 178-183
In Beijing now 17-20 years old guys are173-179
Do not look for whole country
To wittness ur eyes you can see them in university
Since my 177 is also small in capital society
but a lot bigger when compare with people from other province
But also in other part average can go down for 5 cm
Strong english. Is that really true though I know south korea has a vast wealth divide but it seems strange that there should be that big a difference. If young koreans in an unrban environment grow to 180CM that would be about 6CM taller than the national average, perhaps you are refering to North Koreans when you speak of rural families?
@Descreteuser let's not inflate the height of various populations I understand how you might feel short at 181CM in a western nation but the idea that some people on this forum entertain is that 185-188CM is tall and yet that is only 4-7CM taller than your current height. Try standing on your toes, do you feel tall compared to other men? If the answer is yes then you are not short to begin with.
-
In capital city and
new generation maybe a little bit higher
Teenager with good family now 180
Not bias , but it upon region
In Asia , in big city (east and soutth east asia)
Average in capital city is higher than every part
Then other region bring average down
In Thailand now 17-20 years old guy are 174-181 (only capital)
In soeul now 17 - 20 year old guy 178-183
In Beijing now 17-20 years old guys are173-179
Do not look for whole country
To wittness ur eyes you can see them in university
Since my 177 is also small in capital society
but a lot bigger when compare with people from other province
But also in other part average can go down for 5 cm
Where do you get these statistics from? A quick google search gives me
China avg - 167
Korea avg - 173
Japan avg - 170
Thailand avg - 170
LOL. The new generation is taller no doubt, but it does not justify a 7-10cm average difference. I am in an Asian university and I can tell you 175 and above is still considered very safely above average. 180 is tall. 170-ish is average. Out of say maybe 100 asian males I know (who are around my age), only about 5-10% at most are 180 and above.
But yeah, if you suffer from height neurosis you're likely to think everyone is much taller than yourself so it's forgivable.
-
Where do you get these statistics from? A quick google search gives me
China avg - 167
Korea avg - 173
Japan avg - 170
Thailand avg - 170
LOL. The new generation is taller no doubt, but it does not justify a 7-10cm average difference. I am in an Asian university and I can tell you 175 and above is still considered very safely above average. 180 is tall. 170-ish is average. Out of say maybe 100 asian males I know (who are around my age), only about 5-10% at most are 180 and above.
But yeah, if you suffer from height neurosis you're likely to think everyone is much taller than yourself so it's forgivable.
The Japanese have enjoyed high living standards for the better part of a century isn't it strange they're still so short. I can only guess but I think height has a very strong genetic component. Why are the dutch so much taller than other europeans? Their health isnt that much better especially the french are very healthy. Nutrition and health only make a population reach their genetic potential, it might be that most asians just won't grow taller than europeans or africans purely out of genetic reasons.
-
He probably saw a couple guys who were taller than him and now his whole world is turned upside down.
-
If you really feel that the extra height will make you happy then go for LL. I see no benefit in trying to justify the reason to get LL, getting members approval and sympathy, it's just a waste of time. The fact is that you will be criticized and maybe regarded as a troll for complaining about your current height since a lot of members here are either considering or doing LL in order to escape discrimination for being objectively short(<170cm). A lot of us will never reach your current height but still be capable of living a happy, normal life after successful LL even if it means being below average. You should at least appreciate that you're not objectively short and don't face heightism on a daily basis. Unfortunately the sad reality is that height neurosis does tend to make people delusional by over exaggerating average height in different countries which is evident in this topic. I have many rich Asian friends with good upbringing in a first world country and I can say that their average height is around 170cm. But to a person suffering from severe height neurosis, they may appear 5'9 or 5'10.
Well accepting your current height would be the best solution, but then again it's easier said than done. If you feel that sacrificing your resources and wellbeing is worth the extra few cm, go for it since it's your life and you know best what makes you happy.
-
You don't have short legs. I am 179 CM with a 185-186CM wingspan and a 96-97CM sittin height and I look totally normal. At my natural height, I wear US 30 or 32 inseam pants. I still look pretty normal with lifts that make me 188CM and 34 US inseam pants, though.
People do call me tall once in a while at 179, especially girls. It's definitely nowhere near short. I would just really like to be taller for personal reasons that are detailed in other posts.
179 is exactly average for a Caucasian male in America. I think many people of varying heights in this world want to be taller. But in my short time on this forum, I think people should share their desires for wanting to be taller and getting info. I'm 185.5-186cm at night and want to aim for at least 188cm. It was never my intention to upset anyone when I wanted to talk about my ll but can understand now why some people here were hostile towards me considering ll.
-
There are so many things people don't understand. I've seen a few guys who posted pictures so we could see their proportions, some of them were average height some were short. Let's say they were all ugly and had awful bodys. Height wasn't the main problem.
I can imagine how you all look like, you are all just losers. LL won't change that.
And about feeling small at average: I'm now 175cm, 177cm with normal shoes, before that I was 163cm (at 15). I did LL and grew a few cm naturally because I'm still young. I was in Germany a few days ago, a tall country right? You know what? I felt tall, I was taller than 95% of the women, most of the guys were around my height, some were tall as hell and some even towered over me. But that was only a handful.
So what is your problem? Are you all gay? Because height is no problem at all with women at this height. I am one of you, I'm also average and wanting to do LL at this height is just dumb. You all need confidence not more cm.
-
Let's say they were all ugly and had awful bodys. Height wasn't the main problem.
I can imagine how you all look like, you are all just losers. LL won't change that.
AYyyyyLmaooo
If you really feel that the extra height will make you happy then go for LL. I see no benefit in trying to justify the reason to get LL, getting members approval and sympathy, it's just a waste of time. The fact is that you will be criticized and maybe regarded as a troll for complaining about your current height since a lot of members here are either considering or doing LL in order to escape discrimination for being objectively short(<170cm). A lot of us will never reach your current height but still be capable of living a happy, normal life after successful LL even if it means being below average. You should at least appreciate that you're not objectively short and don't face heightism on a daily basis. Unfortunately the sad reality is that height neurosis does tend to make people delusional by over exaggerating average height in different countries which is evident in this topic. I have many rich Asian friends with good upbringing in a first world country and I can say that their average height is around 170cm. But to a person suffering from severe height neurosis, they may appear 5'9 or 5'10.
Well accepting your current height would be the best solution, but then again it's easier said than done. If you feel that sacrificing your resources and wellbeing is worth the extra few cm, go for it since it's your life and you know best what makes you happy.
This is what I'd like to tell people everytime this discussion emerges, I just couldn't say it better myself.
-
Go for it .Wish u all for best result :D
-
There are so many things people don't understand. I've seen a few guys who posted pictures so we could see their proportions, some of them were average height some were short. Let's say they were all ugly and had awful bodys. Height wasn't the main problem.
I can imagine how you all look like, you are all just losers. LL won't change that.
And about feeling small at average: I'm now 175cm, 177cm with normal shoes, before that I was 163cm (at 15). I did LL and grew a few cm naturally because I'm still young. I was in Germany a few days ago, a tall country right? You know what? I felt tall, I was taller than 95% of the women, most of the guys were around my height, some were tall as hell and some even towered over me. But that was only a handful.
So what is your problem? Are you all gay? Because height is no problem at all with women at this height. I am one of you, I'm also average and wanting to do LL at this height is just dumb. You all need confidence not more cm.
Bloody hell, STOP THIS NONSENSE. Most of the higher average height guys like "taller" and "uppland" want to do it for self-image purposes, NOT FOR SOME RANDOM WOMEN They both want to be taller or the same height as their dads, They might have some daddy issues, But who are we to judge?
This is the best solution if you have height neurosis or/and can't accept your current height .
I don't feel short at 177cm by any means, But i don't want to be at this height either, There is no need for you to be this bitter, Like the taller users stole your height or something. I might not agree with everyone that wants LL, But i don't flame them for no good reason. I am sick of hearing about doing LL for women and what women like... It makes me wanna puke, Its what i want and not some random whores!
Calling people "gay" and "losers" is not very mature of you.
-
Oh come on 123 has a bit of a point really. We would all get much better returns if we invested our energy into gym workouts or studies. Also he's pretty hilarious.
-
Bloody hell, STOP THIS NONSENSE. Most of the higher average height guys like "taller" and "uppland" want to do it for self-image purposes, NOT FOR SOME RANDOM WOMEN They both want to be taller or the same height as their dads, They might have some daddy issues, But who are we to judge?
This is the best solution if you have height neurosis or/and can't accept your current height .
I don't feel short at 177cm by any means, But i don't want to be at this height either, There is no need for you to be this bitter, Like the taller users stole your height or something. I might not agree with everyone that wants LL, But i don't flame them for no good reason. I am sick of hearing about doing LL for women and what women like... It makes me wanna puke, Its what i want and not some random whores!
Calling people "gay" and "losers" is not very mature of you.
Don't take it too seriously, that's my way of talking. Don't want to offend anybody. I'm not bitter, I'm happy ;D
I just don't understand how someone is willing to go through this because they can't accept their perfectly fine height. But you don't understand me, how the hell should you? You haven't been in this 10 month painful procedure like me. But you will understand me if you do LL and complicatiosn arise, trust me.
-
Oh come on 123 has a bit of a point really. We would all get much better returns if we invested our energy into gym workouts or studies. Also he's pretty hilarious.
Well your 5'10" and aiming for 6'1.5" (187cms is 6'1".5") which is a desirable height. You'll be in the tall category. I'm aiming for 6'3" or 6'4" which is very tall in America and has a different effect than 6'0"-6'2" which is regular tall. Basically every height could be subdivided into 3" categories
Extremely short,Very short, short,average, tall, very tall, extremely tall
So basically, every height category could be divided by 3" ranges and will have a situation in a social setting. You'll be average to tall even in your country I think? Correct me if I'm wrong though.
-
if you're happy 123 why don't you leave this forum and enjoy your life?
If i did ll, i would never come back here.
-
It's just hilarious that there are more above average to tall people on this forum who want to get taller than actual short people.
I know. It absolutely boggles my mind why anyone who is already 5'10 or something would even consider this. I understand that people of many different heights can experience height disphoria, but if you're already somewhere around average height, I can't imagine that they'd feel dwarfed everyday. Sorry, but I think many of these people are just incredibly insecure, lacking in other areas (looks, social/women skills, etc.), or are just extreme perfectionists. I mean, at 5'6 I'm basically a midget, but I've still always done pretty well with girls. I'm getting the surgery because at my height, it's almost a requirement lol. With my looks and everything else that I've got going for me, if I were at least 5'8 I don't think I'd ever consider this surgery.
-
And where is it that you encounter those cunts calling you short as a regularity at 5'11?
My thoughts exactly. I hate to use that word, but any woman calling a 5'11 guy short is well...let's just say I don't have anything nice to say about them.
Some women are truly disgusting these days. Feminism at its worst. I once had a FWB that was 5ft, and she called me short and I'm 5'6. Yes, that's very short for a guy, but I towered over her! She told me that she married her ex husband specifically because he was tall, and she wanted tall children. Well, the joke was on her, because all of her kids ended up short. Stupid b!tch lol
-
if you're happy 123 why don't you leave this forum and enjoy your life?
If i did ll, i would never come back here.
Boredom is a bitch, I'm on crutches still, as soon as I can walk without aid I'll leave. It seems like my help is not even wanted here but for me it's entertaining to read this stuff, some of you have serious mental problems.
-
Agree everyone should get it done, just don't tell me u feel short at 6'0
-
Well your 5'10" and aiming for 6'1.5" (187cms is 6'1".5") which is a desirable height. You'll be in the tall category. I'm aiming for 6'3" or 6'4" which is very tall in America and has a different effect than 6'0"-6'2" which is regular tall. Basically every height could be subdivided into 3" categories
Extremely short,Very short, short,average, tall, very tall, extremely tall
So basically, every height category could be divided by 3" ranges and will have a situation in a social setting. You'll be average to tall even in your country I think? Correct me if I'm wrong though.
No you're completely right, well how people percieve your height is very subjective but I'm inclined to agree.
-
A slight digress but have you guys ever thought that being too tall as a disadvantage. No idea what people are trying to achieve by being "very tall".
And so I have no idea why people still want to put on extra height after 185.
I know of many girls who said that they won't date people above a certain height because it intimidates them.
-
A slight digress but have you guys ever thought that being too tall as a disadvantage. No idea what people are trying to achieve by being "very tall".
And so I have no idea why people still want to put on extra height after 185.
I know of many girls who said that they won't date people above a certain height because it intimidates them.
Yeah, a good friend of mine is 195cm. He has a lot of problems because of his height.
-
Yeah, a good friend of mine is 195cm. He has a lot of problems because of his height.
That's funny, I happen to have a family member who is 195CM and he has a lot of advantages because of his height.
Never heard a girl say someone is "too tall" to be with.
-
Basically short is bad in this world and being short is a big negative in that regard. Because if we had 2 lifes 1 short one tall knowingly we would be much more kind to each other.
But one life and limited time to live it?, pff kid no way aint got no time for that.
So we latch on to superficial things to make us have a story to tell when we are old. But we are still struck with reality based anxiety for not living our darma and have been projecting a social mask for the majority of our life.
Being average makes you a beta/alpha in that you have a basic alpha by your height. But not full fledged like tall category. So you are still second place but since you are beta/alpha you get some benefits.
Tall is the category where adolecence, and adult dreams comes into fruition by unlimited access to the matrix outlets with minor interference. You could say these people are still in a trance of limited perception. Because they never had resistance thus never had to revalue their approach next time, limiting them from spiritual growth. Since spiritual breaktrough happens in some form of trauma. Be it childhood or just recent events.
Short people will go into beta/alpha phase after LL.
They will get the basic package no added bonuses.
Average will go into alpha mode at 6'0 or higher.
they can start to take life by the horns and either go their own path or become a leader of sorts.
Already tall guys that want to be taller. They dont understand that the perception tall goes for whatever height over that initiall "tall" treshold. 6'1 and higher.
-
That's funny, I happen to have a family member who is 195CM and he has a lot of advantages because of his height.
Never heard a girl say someone is "too tall" to be with.
Of course they have a lot of advantages, never said something else. But they also have disadvantages.
I heard that from a few girls to be honest, but they were short (155cm). This is of course only a personal preference.
-
It's true, some of the advantages of being tall has been proven to diminish the higher you get. This means that at some point the disadvantages will outweigh the advantages. For example I would personally be 195CM rather than 200CM but I would also prefer 190CM over 185CM
-
you have short legs? no , yo have short brain. Im 165 and 91cm sitting height and you 181 and 94cm
-
It's true, some of the advantages of being tall has been proven to diminish the higher you get. This means that at some point the disadvantages will outweigh the advantages. For example I would personally be 195CM rather than 200CM but I would also prefer 190CM over 185CM
I would prefer 185 over 195, manly because I have boyish features
-
It's true, some of the advantages of being tall has been proven to diminish the higher you get. This means that at some point the disadvantages will outweigh the advantages. For example I would personally be 195CM rather than 200CM but I would also prefer 190CM over 185CM
Amen brother. I wouldn't want to be 195cms ( which is just below 6'5") but I would rather be it then 187cms (6'1.5 or sometimes 6'1.75" depending how close you are to it) or below. I'm aware that anything more than 189cm or 6'2" is in America is gonna diminish returns from women.
I'm doing it for personal arbitrary.
-
Amen brother. I wouldn't want to be 195cms ( which is just below 6'5") but I would rather be it then 187cms (6'1.5 or sometimes 6'1.75" depending how close you are to it) or below. I'm aware that anything more than 189cm or 6'2" is in America is gonna diminish returns from women.
I'm doing it for personal arbitrary.
Weird man..just weird that you cant be happy with yourself at your current height. What adolecence trauma happened to you?
-
I agree that taller people should be able to get LL if they want to. A cost/benefit analysis should be done. It's alot of time and temporary disability for something that will provide minimal benefit as compared to a short guy becoming average who won't have to deal with heightism in the workplace, dating etc. However I you believe it's worth those risks then go for it.
-
I agree that taller people should be able to get LL if they want to. A cost/benefit analysis should be done. It's alot of time and temporary disability for something that will provide minimal benefit as compared to a short guy becoming average who won't have to deal with heightism in the workplace, dating etc. However I you believe it's worth those risks then go for it.
I think a valid point that most people bring up is that already tall people seeking LL are somehow deluded into thinking that they will be happy once they get that extra height and become "very tall". Some comments here are already screaming "height is not your problem", yet these people continue to still believe in butchering their legs for that extra cm (which will not yield much benefit) is the right way to go.
-
I think a valid point that most people bring up is that already tall people seeking LL are somehow deluded into thinking that they will be happy once they get that extra height and become "very tall". Some comments here are already screaming "height is not your problem", yet these people continue to still believe in butchering their legs for that extra cm (which will not yield much benefit) is the right way to go.
Believe me. There's a benefit from going to 6'0" to 6'5". People won't want to attack you at 6'5" but at 6'0" they might. It's like I said, every height category has 3" for a different social setting.
5'9-5'11" average, 6'0"- 6'2" tall , 6'3" and 6'4" very tall, 6'5" and above is extremely tall.
If you leave any height range of 3", the social Influence will change.
-
Believe me. There's a benefit from going to 6'0" to 6'5". People won't want to attack you at 6'5" but at 6'0" they might. It's like I said, every height category has 3" for a different social setting.
5'9-5'11" average, 6'0"- 6'2" tall , 6'3" and 6'4" very tall, 6'5" and above is extremely tall.
If you leave any height range of 3", the social Influence will change.
Quote of the day: Believe me. There's a benefit from going to 6'0" to 6'5". People won't want to attack you at 6'5" but at 6'0" they might.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I bet no one wanna mess with this scary 6'3" guy.
(http://prikachi.com/images/697/7729697f.jpg)
Don't think that you would be more "alpha" with your new height (whatever that might be).
This guy has the same sitting height as you, 94cm. If you do 4 inches that will put you to an unreasonable inseam. But on the bright side, I bet that no one would want to mess with slender man himself. You aim for 190cm minimum and 193cm idle, (3-4) inches will put you to a 36 inseam (insane) if you wear 32 inseam, And 38 inseam (straight up mental) if you wear 34 inseam currently. You have the same build as me, Long limbs and short torso, Keep that in mind.
-
Believe me. There's a benefit from going to 6'0" to 6'5". People won't want to attack you at 6'5" but at 6'0" they might. It's like I said, every height category has 3" for a different social setting.
5'9-5'11" average, 6'0"- 6'2" tall , 6'3" and 6'4" very tall, 6'5" and above is extremely tall.
If you leave any height range of 3", the social Influence will change.
You are just too caught up with your own theories on how society works and perceives height. You think that way, fine. Some people think that way, it's also fine. I don't deny that. but most people will not see the difference between 6'3 and 6'4. Just because you think that way it doesn't mean that the majority of the population does as well. You have to keep that in mind.
There are a lot other factors determining social influence. Height may or may not be one of them and it depends on who is judging. No offence but you appear to me like you just want to be as tall as possible to intimidate the fk out of everyone else in the room. If you're doing LL just to feel alpha, then it's kind of mentally sick TBH.
-
Well I'm aiming for 2" and my inseam is 32" so I'll be fine.
-
Well I'm aiming for 2" and my inseam is 32" so I'll be fine.
You will never be fine.
-
Well I'm aiming for 2" and my inseam is 32" so I'll be fine.
Hmmm, Tibia: 48 cms + Femurs:55cms = 103cm / 103cm = 40.94 inches, You must be wearing your pants really low 8)
94cm (sitting height) - 185.5 (total height) = 91.5cm/36 inches true inseam and maybe 33/34 inches pants inseam
-
Believe me. There's a benefit from going to 6'0" to 6'5". People won't want to attack you at 6'5" but at 6'0" they might. It's like I said, every height category has 3" for a different social setting.
5'9-5'11" average, 6'0"- 6'2" tall , 6'3" and 6'4" very tall, 6'5" and above is extremely tall.
If you leave any height range of 3", the social Influence will change.
Who is attacking you? Do you mean physically or verbally?
If you mean physically there is a big difference between a guy who is naturally 6'5 and a 6' guy who lengthened to that height
in terms of looking intimidating.
-
Who is attacking you? Do you mean physically or verbally?
If you mean physically there is a big difference between a guy who is naturally 6'5 and a 6' guy who lengthened to that height
in terms of looking intimidating.
Both really. Any verbal fight will escalate to physical if both parties are in their reactive state.
Hmmm, Tibia: 48 cms + Femurs:55cms = 103cm / 103cm = 40.94 inches, You must be wearing your pants really low 8)
94cm (sitting height) - 185.5 (total height) = 91.5cm/36 inches true inseam and maybe 33/34 inches pants inseam
I should be fine. I don't think I'll exceed 36" inseam on a 2" gain. Oh wait, 123 said I'll never be fine lol.
-
Both really. Any verbal fight will escalate to physical if both parties are in their reactive state.
I should be fine. I don't think I'll exceed 36" inseam on a 2" gain. Oh wait, 123 said I'll never be fine lol.
Actually I'm not surprised that so many people want to beat you up such that you have to resort to LL to protect yourself. ;D
-
Actually I'm not surprised that so many people want to beat you up such that you have to resort to LL to protect yourself. ;D
Yeah well you'll never be 6'4" so shut up!
-
You're just pissing people off by saying you want LL at 185cm and feel unapologetic about it.
No one insulted you, I did not. You started it.
I'm not going to extend this into a flame war. Your own legs, your own problem.
-
You're just pissing people off by saying you want LL at 185cm and feel unapologetic about it.
No one insulted you, I did not. You started it.
I'm not going to extend this into a flame war. Your own legs, your own problem.
Yup exactly. Lol what are we 10? The "you started it" card is pre-pubescent.
Believe me. 6'0" is nothing special. There are guys at old forum who are getting ll at it and no
one acts hostile towards them regardless of Apothesis putting out false info for profit
-
I was just wondeirng if 5'11 in 1 inch shoes = 6'0. If that counts as real 6'0 lets say outside. Or will people still percieve you as 5'11 guy with 1 inch shoes. Im confused about this.
-
I was just wondeirng if 5'11 in 1 inch shoes = 6'0. If that counts as real 6'0 lets say outside. Or will people still percieve you as 5'11 guy with 1 inch shoes. Im confused about this.
It depends. Some will and others won't. You could probably persuade about %70 of the population your 6'0". But only the NBA counts that as your true height.
-
You will never be fine.
You're cheeky m8 keep it real tho'
But seriously 123 how tall are you? I understand you're lenghtening I hope everything is going okay.
Also everyone: why do you have to give Ajax a hard time? Sure I think he's got more than a healthy amount of height on his brain but isn't it time to just get over it.
I always feel jealous when I see 180+ people talking about lenghtening but I'm also kinda happy for them, they might actually reach the holy land (190+) with their health intact.
-
You're cheeky m8 keep it real tho'
But seriously 123 how tall are you? I understand you're lenghtening I hope everything is going okay.
Also everyone: why do you have to give Ajax a hard time? Sure I think he's got more than a healthy amount of height on his brain but isn't it time to just get over it.
I always feel jealous when I see 180+ people talking about lenghtening but I'm also kinda happy for them, they might actually reach the holy land (190+) with their health intact.
Thanks Upland. I think everyone should be allowed to lengthen and no one should get hostile for them as well. What country are you from? What is the most you can lengthen do you think?
-
Thanks Upland. I think everyone should be allowed to lengthen and no one should get hostile for them as well. What country are you from? What is the most you can lengthen do you think?
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=1173.0
Also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uppland
-
Read this whole thread. It reminds me of a concept I stumbled across.
Broke at another level.
When we live paycheck to paycheck , we are broke at that level. Once we save up or get a raise or whatnot we then are not broke anymore. However, we look to others who have a bit of money and invariably they invest in a retirement plan. So now we are broke on that level. So we save up all to find out we are broke compared to the guy who has a retirement plan plus a house. Hooboy.
Lots of guys on here who feel short at 5ft11 or 5ft 10. I think one day people will be afforded the luxury of attaining the perfect height. In my opinion its 6ft to 6ft 2 .
The reason I say afforded is because we are tempted to believe limb lengthening is like ordering off e-bay or having our wisdom teeth pulled. Hurts but is doable.
At this stage in its development, limb lengthening is barbaric , brutal and extremely painfull. Its expensive and time consuming. Most of the time we need two procedures to balance the femur /tibia length. The rehab is no picnic either.
So we who are truly short - as in 5ft8 or less , have an axe to grind. We have been treated unfairly. We have been prejudiced , picked on, laughed at by men and ignored by women.
That surely would keep me walking around on crutches for 4-6 months in sometimes awful pain. Remembering the prejudice would give me the motivation.
So for all of you who are 5ft9 or 5ft 10 or 11, you REALLY have to want this , as in NEED it like you cannot live without it. If that is you , great. However, I dont see someone 5ft 11 as having a height problem.
Let me remind you; This is breaking your bones. Its not an easy recovery.
If you decide to go for it, I will stand behind you ! This forum is for folks who are highly motivated to increase their height. :D
-
I don't come here as much as I used too , to be honest a lot of people here are mentally ill so I really don't belong here adios ;)
-
Read this whole thread. It reminds me of a concept I stumbled across.
Broke at another level.
When we live paycheck to paycheck , we are broke at that level. Once we save up or get a raise or whatnot we then are not broke anymore. However, we look to others who have a bit of money and invariably they invest in a retirement plan. So now we are broke on that level. So we save up all to find out we are broke compared to the guy who has a retirement plan plus a house. Hooboy.
Lots of guys on here who feel short at 5ft11 or 5ft 10. I think one day people will be afforded the luxury of attaining the perfect height. In my opinion its 6ft to 6ft 2 .
The reason I say afforded is because we are tempted to believe limb lengthening is like ordering off e-bay or having our wisdom teeth pulled. Hurts but is doable.
At this stage in its development, limb lengthening is barbaric , brutal and extremely painfull. Its expensive and time consuming. Most of the time we need two procedures to balance the femur /tibia length. The rehab is no picnic either.
So we who are truly short - as in 5ft8 or less , have an axe to grind. We have been treated unfairly. We have been prejudiced , picked on, laughed at by men and ignored by women.
That surely would keep me walking around on crutches for 4-6 months in sometimes awful pain. Remembering the prejudice would give me the motivation.
So for all of you who are 5ft9 or 5ft 10 or 11, you REALLY have to want this , as in NEED it like you cannot live without it. If that is you , great. However, I dont see someone 5ft 11 as having a height problem.
Let me remind you; This is breaking your bones. Its not an easy recovery.
If you decide to go for it, I will stand behind you ! This forum is for folks who are highly motivated to increase their height. :D
Women ignore me sometimes. It's not always due to your height really, sometimes it's the type of men they like. I've been dating with Asians and Mexicans but the highest on the hitness scale they were is 7. The 9s and 10s were with guys who looked completely different from me. I think either I'm not their type or they just ignore guys because they get hit on by them all the time. So even if you make it to the 6'0" + club, your gonna need social proof If you want to date quality or any woman in general.
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=1173.0
Also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uppland
Cool so your from Sweden. Average height there is only slightly higher than in America. But I'm also Germanic so I understand the competition coming from people of any ethnic group like that since they're the largest men in the world.
-
Yeah the average is maybe 3-4 cm higher.
-
You're cheeky m8 keep it real tho'
But seriously 123 how tall are you? I understand you're lenghtening I hope everything is going okay.
Also everyone: why do you have to give Ajax a hard time? Sure I think he's got more than a healthy amount of height on his brain but isn't it time to just get over it.
I always feel jealous when I see 180+ people talking about lenghtening but I'm also kinda happy for them, they might actually reach the holy land (190+) with their health intact.
I'm 175cm.
And this guy has some mental problems. I mean if he can't live with this height because he feels short, then he will get a mental breakdown and some panic attacks while doing LL. It's nothing for mentally weak people. This is like when a victoria secret model comed to you and cries to you because she feels ugly, everyone would tell her to stfu. Also I don't think any doctor will do LL on this guy once they talk to him at least I hope so because he will waste money and time. This guy is a 30+ year old virgin.
At 185cm you are tall, period. If you feel short at that height it's because you're a loser like this guy. The reason why we are telling him this is not jealousy or something like that it's because we are seeing sone guy doing some really stupid thing.
-
(http://timtamashiro.typepad.com/.a/6a0120a5962426970b012877a46f33970c-pi)
Ajax2thousand20 confirmed!
"6 foot 4 inches or gtfo" -Ajax
"my sister is 9 foot 7 inches" -Ajax
"I'll lenghten errythan', I'll lenghten mah dck -I don't give a fok" -Ajax
-
I'm 175cm.
And this guy has some mental problems. I mean if he can't live with this height because he feels short, then he will get a mental breakdown and some panic attacks while doing LL. It's nothing for mentally weak people. This is like when a victoria secret model comed to you and cries to you because she feels ugly, everyone would tell her to stfu. Also I don't think any doctor will do LL on this guy once they talk to him at least I hope so because he will waste money and time. This guy is a 30+ year old virgin.
At 185cm you are tall, period. If you feel short at that height it's because you're a loser like this guy. The reason why we are telling him this is not jealousy or something like that it's because we are seeing sone guy doing some really stupid thing.
I've never been institutionalizex due to my height so they should accept me. It's been my dream to be very tall since I was 12. I'm not short but definitely do consider myself slightly above average. They'll accept me and it'll be rainbows and sunshines for every 1" I gain! ;D ;D
Maybe just for the hell of it, I should ask some 6'2" + guys if they could understand a man being 6'0-6'1" wanting to be taller!
-
I'm 175cm.
And this guy has some mental problems. I mean if he can't live with this height because he feels short, then he will get a mental breakdown and some panic attacks while doing LL. It's nothing for mentally weak people. This is like when a victoria secret model comed to you and cries to you because she feels ugly, everyone would tell her to stfu. Also I don't think any doctor will do LL on this guy once they talk to him at least I hope so because he will waste money and time. This guy is a 30+ year old virgin.
At 185cm you are tall, period. If you feel short at that height it's because you're a loser like this guy. The reason why we are telling him this is not jealousy or something like that it's because we are seeing sone guy doing some really stupid thing.
I've never been institutionalized due to my height so they should accept me. It's been my dream to be very tall since I was 12. I'm not short but definitely do consider myself slightly above average. They'll accept me and it'll be rainbows and sunshines for every 1" I gain! ;D ;D
Maybe just for the hell of it, I should ask some 6'2" + guys if they could understand a man being 6'0-6'1" wanting to be taller!
-
(http://timtamashiro.typepad.com/.a/6a0120a5962426970b012877a46f33970c-pi)
Ajax2thousand20 confirmed!
"6 foot 4 inches or gtfo" -Ajax
"my sister is 9 foot 7 inches" -Ajax
"I'll lenghten errythan', I'll lenghten mah dck -I don't give a fok" -Ajax
I thought you were on my side in this whole ll adventure? I guess I'll let the guys say whatever now. Oh well.
-
(http://timtamashiro.typepad.com/.a/6a0120a5962426970b012877a46f33970c-pi)
Ajax2thousand20 confirmed!
"6 foot 4 inches or gtfo" -Ajax
"my sister is 9 foot 7 inches" -Ajax
"I'll lenghten errythan', I'll lenghten mah dck -I don't give a fok" -Ajax
Ahahahahahahahaah ;D ;D ;D
But to get back to your point, I had a discussion with my dad yesterday about this. He is around your height (185cm) and he only shaked when I told him about this. I have a lot of friends who are your height, they would never suffer 1+ year for being 190cm I know that.
-
(http://waynestocks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/CrazyGuy.jpg)
"I've never been institutionalized" -Ajax
All jokes aside limb lenghtening is a brutal surgery and it's likely you'll never fully recover. Only consider it if you really can't live with your height as it is. Do the surgery if you really feel like you need to, don't do it if you just want it like you want a nice car. You sound like you might just really need the extra height to get over your neurosis, please stay safe and research the correct precasiouns.
-
I thought you were on my side in this whole ll adventure? I guess I'll let the guys say whatever now. Oh well.
I'm just having a laugh mate. Does it really matter what some guys on a forum thinks?
-
I'm just having a laugh mate. Does it really matter what some guys on a forum thinks?
if he's getting upset about this now I see why he wants to do LL at 6'1
-
I can live with my height. All vanities are gonna rot once your dead anyway. I believe we have 1 life and if you want something done then you better do it. Maybe we live again but there's no validation so I'm gonna aim for all the things I want!
-
I can live with my height. All vanities are gonna rot once your dead anyway. I believe we have 1 life and if you want something done then you better do it. Maybe we live again but there's no validation so I'm gonna aim for all the things I want!
this is the reason why i'm still hesitating, we will all be the same height btw, once buried.
-
You can do whatever you want, But claiming that you're "short" and experience "heightism" and that women call you short at 5'11"+ is not only retarded, But is disrespectful to other members that are 5'8" and under. I for once am glad to be at least 5'10", It could be much worse at only -2 inches, That would put me at 5'8". If you don't get why a few people here are upset with the idea of you doing LL...Then you should lengthen your brains, Not your legs. Its like you spit in their faces claiming that 6'0" and 6'1" isn't enough. This forum gets new members that are 5'11"+ by each passing day ;D ;D
-
You can do whatever you want, But claiming that you're "short" and experience "heightism" and that women call you short at 5'11"+ is not only retarded, But is disrespectful to other members that are 5'8" and under. I for once am glad to be at least 5'10", It could be much worse at only -2 inches, That would put me at 5'8". If you don't get why a few people here are upset with the idea of you doing LL...Then you should lengthen your brains, Not your legs. Its like you spit in their faces claiming that 6'0" and 6'1" isn't enough. This forum gets new members that are 5'11"+ by each passing day ;D ;D
how tall you will be after LL?
-
I hope for 185cm at best.
-
You can do whatever you want, But claiming that you're "short" and experience "heightism" and that women call you short at 5'11"+ is not only retarded, But is disrespectful to other members that are 5'8" and under. I for once am glad to be at least 5'10", It could be much worse at only -2 inches, That would put me at 5'8". If you don't get why a few people here are upset with the idea of you doing LL...Then you should lengthen your brains, Not your legs. Its like you spit in their faces claiming that 6'0" and 6'1" isn't enough. This forum gets new members that are 5'11"+ by each passing day ;D ;D
I'm same height as u, this forums seems to be divided in few categories: <5'8 guys wanting to do LL because they face discrimination, ~5'10 guys who say they don't face discrimination but still want to do LL because they want to reach the 6'0 mark, the 6'0 + who somehow say the feel short..
all I'm saying is get it done, but don't tell me u feel short at 6'0+
also if u do LL at 5'11+ why not aim foe good proportions and sacrifice that extra cm, so instead of doing 6cm do 4 and ur proportions will look good, remember lean body and hood proportions will make u appear taller than u are instead of weird or unnatural
-
I hope for 185cm at best.
u 177 at night?
-
u 177 at night?
Yes, But i am 178 tops. I had a few measuring errors before, I didn't sink to 175cm. My height doesn't vary that much, I once measured myself straight out of bed to see whats my max height, But i don
't know if i had a measuring error, because showed 179cm. I am 177cm (most of the time).
-
Yes, But i am 178 tops. I had a few measuring errors before, I didn't sink to 175cm. My height doesn't vary that much, I once measured myself straight out of bed to see whats my max height, But i don
't know if i had a measuring error, because showed 179cm. I am 177-177.5cm (most of the time).
same height as u, ~177 at night 178+ morning, 182,5 at night would be great
-
Wow folks im around 177.5 ,i will meet paley this december to add me to 183.5-185
Yeah guys around this height also want to aroun 6- 6'1
-
680, didn'y you say 175 cm ?
-
680, didn'y you say 175 cm ?
I thought i have sank to 175cm during the day, But i didn't.
Its hard to measure yourself without some errors.
-
You can do whatever you want, But claiming that you're "short" and experience "heightism" and that women call you short at 5'11"+ is not only retarded, But is disrespectful to other members that are 5'8" and under. I for once am glad to be at least 5'10", It could be much worse at only -2 inches, That would put me at 5'8". If you don't get why a few people here are upset with the idea of you doing LL...Then you should lengthen your brains, Not your legs. Its like you spit in their faces claiming that 6'0" and 6'1" isn't enough. This forum gets new members that are 5'11"+ by each passing day ;D ;D
It wasn't heightism to be honest. I said I feel average which I do. But in high school if was more " I'm taller than you so nah!!" which is annoying but I get it. You guys are lengthening to be average as for me its arbitrary.
-
Wow folks im around 177.5 ,i will meet paley this december to add me to 183.5-185
Yeah guys around this height also want to aroun 6- 6'1
Doctor paley is very expensive, and considering you live in an asian country, i would like to know how you were able to keep enough money aside to consider him.
I'm french and i earn more than 75 % of people,and i'm only 23 years old, i would have to earn for 10 years
I'm considering doctor salameh or a russian doctor to be 6'2", but paley or even guichet are too expensive
-
You can do whatever you want, But claiming that you're "short" and experience "heightism" and that women call you short at 5'11"+ is not only retarded, But is disrespectful to other members that are 5'8" and under. I for once am glad to be at least 5'10", It could be much worse at only -2 inches, That would put me at 5'8". If you don't get why a few people here are upset with the idea of you doing LL...Then you should lengthen your brains, Not your legs. Its like you spit in their faces claiming that 6'0" and 6'1" isn't enough. This forum gets new members that are 5'11"+ by each passing day ;D ;D
It's for this reason that I don't even wanna do a diary here anymore, even though I was excited to (and I'm going with arguably the best doctor). I'm all for helping people....but guys...I'm 5'5.5". I actually NEED this surgery. You think I WANT to be breaking my legs during the holidays?! I need to! Not you sick naturally 5'9"+ idiots. Y'all must be hideously ugly, fat, poor, incredibly insecure, have a flop ass career, or have zero women/social skills. I hate to judge and I am normally NOT a judgmental person, but GTFO. If I can score as many girls as I have at my height but you guys can't, this surgery will do N O T H I N G for you.
Go start a "I need to be 6'2" or I'll kill myself" forum.
-
It's for this reason that I don't even wanna do a diary here anymore, even though I was excited to (and I'm going with arguably the best doctor). I'm all for helping people....but guys...I'm 5'5.5". I actually NEED this surgery. Not you sick naturally 5'9"+ idiots. Y'all must be hideously ugly, fat, poor, or have zero women/social skills.
it will piss you off even more just because we're none of things u said, we re just greedy, the worst kind of human imaginable, we want to be even better then we currently are, its such an injustice I can only imagine for short people, and in a couple of months this forum will be full of us
also funny how I've seen recently on a forum a thread about people doing exercises to increase height and there were short people and tall people doing them but no one hated each other.
-
it will piss you off even more just because we're none of things u said, we re just greedy, the worst kind of human imaginable, we want to be even better then we currently are, its such an injustice I can only imagine for short people, and in a couple of months this forum will be full of us
also funny how I've seen recently on a forum a thread about people doing exercises to increase height and there were short people and tall people doing them but no one hated each other.
I don't hate any of you....I pity you. I'm ALL for self improvement and investing in oneself. But given the cost and severity of this surgery....if you're hovering around 5'9/5'10 and have other things going for (as you implied)...then you don't need this. You all must be truly insanely greedy (and yes, insecure).
Whatever. I wish you all well. Maybe it's time I leave this site. It got me the doctor I needed and I have to focus on me right now.
If I do a diary, do not expect me to reply to any questions (either in my diary or or inbox) if your starting height is such that you didn't need this surgery. Your friends and family are really gonna lose all respect for you once they see how selfish and insecure you people are.
-
It's for this reason that I don't even wanna do a diary here anymore, even though I was excited to (and I'm going with arguably the best doctor). I'm all for helping people....but guys...I'm 5'5.5". I actually NEED this surgery. You think I WANT to be breaking my legs during the holidays?! I need to! Not you sick naturally 5'9"+ idiots. Y'all must be hideously ugly, fat, poor, incredibly insecure, have a flop ass career, or have zero women/social skills. I hate to judge and I am normally NOT a judgmental person, but GTFO. If I can score as many girls as I have at my height but you guys can't, this surgery will do N O T H I N G for you.
Go start a "I need to be 6'2" or I'll kill myself" forum.
Your post made me laugh my pants off, Everybody has different reasons to want to do LL. Some people need it, some want it. In the end everybody is different, some of us want to be as tall or taller than their fathers, Some just can't accept being their height and some just want to be taller for the kicks of it, Even if they are taller than the average in their countries and try to convince themselves otherwise and even claiming that they've experienced heightism, Some do it for a larger dating pool (sad).
There is no point in judging most of the people here, Imagine if a dwarf came to the site and saw people over 150cm wanting to do LL and started insulting them.
-
Your post made me laugh my pants off, Everybody has different reasons to want to do LL. Some people need it, some want it. In the end everybody is different, some of us want to be as tall or taller than their fathers, Some just can't accept being their height and some just want to be taller for the kicks of it, Even if they are taller than the average in their countries and try to convince themselves otherwise and even claiming that they've experienced heightism, Some do it for a larger dating pool (sad).
There is no point in judging most of the people here, Imagine if a dwarf came to the site and saw people over 150cm wanting to do LL and started insulting them.
I agree with you regarding the dwarf comment.
But guys...c'mon...what women are really gonna turn down a 5'10 guy that is awesome all around? I've only ever heard guys below 5'8 get called short, and the biggest players I know are 5'7 and 5'8!
Whatever...I'll just never understand the way you guys feel. But it's not for me to understand, I guess.
-
I agree with you regarding the dwarf comment.
But guys...c'mon...what women are really gonna turn down a 5'10 guy that is awesome all around? I've only ever heard guys below 5'8 get called short, and the biggest players I know are 5'7 and 5'8!
Whatever...I'll just never understand the way you guys feel. But it's not for me to understand, I guess.
probably no women, but the man itself will not consider himself perfect
-
probably no women, but the man itself will not consider himself perfect
No one is perfect.
But if you guys are gonna attempt perfection, I sincerely wish you luck. Don't end up like Michael Jackson.
-
I agree with you regarding the dwarf comment.
But guys...c'mon...what women are really gonna turn down a 5'10 guy that is awesome all around? I've only ever heard guys below 5'8 get called short, and the biggest players I know are 5'7 and 5'8!
Whatever...I'll just never understand the way you guys feel. But it's not for me to understand, I guess.
AWWWH, Stop talking about women. Every time there is a topic, Women come to play. I don't give two cents about what people think of my height (especially women). I've got a self-image problem, I cannot accept being 5'10", I just can't.
-
AWWWH, Stop talking about women. Every time there is a topic, Women come to play. I don't give two cents about what people think of my height (especially women). I've got a self-image problem, I cannot accept being 5'10", I just can't.
Agreed. I'm doing LL because I'm below 5'8". And for me, while 5'8 is still short, you rarely hear guys that height get called short. I get girls plenty now.
Wow for not being able to accept 5'10.....but more power to ya I guess.
-
Agreed. I'm doing LL because I'm below 5'8". And for me, while 5'8 is still short, you rarely hear guys that height get called short. I get girls plenty now.
Wow for not being able to accept 5'10.....but more power to ya I guess.
Well, Most of us can't get to their idle height. The next best thing to do is to get close to it. I would like to be in the "tall" category, But i can't reach the 6'2" - 6'4" range. You might see 6'0" as idle, But you couldn't reach it and stay within proportions and will settle for less. Most of us are like this, There is even a 6'1" guy here that wants to be 6'4" and even claims 6'5" as his idle ;D
-
Well most of us can't get to their idle height, The next best thing to do is to get close to it. I would like to be in the "tall" category, But i can't reach the 6'2" - 6'4" range. You might see 6'0" as idle, But you couldn't reach it and stay within proportions and will settle for less. Most of us are like this, There is even a 6'1" guy here that wants to be 6'4" ;D
See for me, I'm ok with 5'8 bc I have everything else....great facial aesthetics, great body, career, women skills....that's why I hope you "short" 5'10 guys have at least tried ( or have) succeeded in other areas first.
I think it's pretty well known that below 5'8 is where things start getting really bad.
-
I know what you guys are thinking, taller is better. I understand this and your desire for it. But this is a medical procedure which takes 1+ year to recover, it's not a joke. I had a -ton of discussions with my doc, LL for cosmetic reasons is unethical. That's why only a few of thousands of orthopaedics do this. You are willing to put yourself in a wheelchair for months because you don't like your self-image. Sorry, this is sick. Also you take this so easily, like it's a holiday but it's not, it's more like getting gangraped ;D
But everyone is like this pre-LL, heck even I was. My plan was to do 6 tibia than 6 femur because why not? Can't be that hard. I guessed wrong.
I only want to help you guys and also I got ty internet, so I can't do anything else, but to get back to my point. You are doing this for the wrong reasons and it won't help you.
-
Doctor paley is very expensive, and considering you live in an asian country, i would like to know how you were able to keep enough money aside to consider him.
I'm french and i earn more than 75 % of people,and i'm only 23 years old, i would have to earn for 10 years
I'm considering doctor salameh or a russian doctor to be 6'2", but paley or even guichet are too expensive
For me Paley also expensive but i have own business that i can do it with out financial problem,but i have time problem(out of business for 5 months )
All my reason is not for woman
Im pretty handsome for Asian guy and also have girl already
One reason in my life is this ll is must do process to fùlfil my needs .i cant escape from height dsyphoria
i want to be taller .and i m so jealous 183 ,185 and 188guys
Like 168 jealous 175
Like 150 jealous 160
This is also effect some 185 jealous to 192
Everyone also have right to do
And every one is a greedy man,isnt it?
By the wat,this greedy never harm any people,it harm only themselves
Then this forum establish for given safe knowledge to every people to do ll
Hope luck with every people here
-
It's interesting that so many people on here consider themselves handsome.
-
It's interesting that so many people on here consider themselves handsome.
Haha .Its depend on who is realistic .I just happy with my face and experinced with many girls .LL is only for myself goal.
-
They lack a good face and good social dynamics thus try to change the perception of themselves by getting taller as they think this will give them what they never had.
5'10 and above not out and enjoying life to the fullest is a joke. Its like a fat girl complaining she cant loose weigt because because my dady didnt pay attention to me
-
It's interesting that so many people on here consider themselves handsome.
would be even more interesting if it was true
-
would be even more interesting if it was true
I'm extremely handsome. Have been compared to many male celebs and I've had many women call me hot, sexy etc over the years. And gay guys regularly check me out lol
Maybe that's why 5'8" will be no sweat for me.
-
I met Yellowspike in New York City a couple months ago. He IS extremely handsome, I can attest to that lol.
-
haha dude what happen to you?
Relax
Are you gay?
-
haha dude what happen to you?
Relax
Are you gay?
ChrisIsaak (also a good looking fella!) is most assuredly not gay. He has a smoking HOT gf that he had when he was 5'5". Something you guys can't even pull off at 5'10" Lololol.
And ChrisIsaak is definitely much more confident, intelligent, logical, and most importantly LUCID than all of you people (and I'm holding myself back right now)!
-
haha dude what happen to you?
Relax
Are you gay?
Nope bro, I'm straight. But I've got two eyes. I can tell if a guy is handsome or not :D
-
I think RGKEY is pretty good looking too, I wonder if there is something about being handsome and short that doesn't add up.
-
Lol, please stop it guys ;D
-
Honestly I don't see anything wrong with saying another guy is handsome. It doesn't make someone gay. (And I don't think being gay is a negative thing either). It's an aesthetic remark, not a sexual one. It's more common among women (to praise each other), not so much among men, but it doesn't bother me. South American, Middle Eastern and Italian men kiss each other from the cheek as a greeting. It isn't considered gay either. And these are, mind you, more homophobic cultures than North America. I think your idea of "gay" is a caricature, not a real one. I've met many gay people when I lived in the US as I did theater - some were stereotypical gay, I admit, but many weren't. It's an interesting topic so I wanted to add my two cents. Some of my best friends tease and call me "bi" when I make aesthetic remarks about other men, so I'm used to the response I got and I was expecting it too. It's hilarious.
-
Ill try to speak for the guys here who are 5'10" and +.
We aren't doing this for the same reasons that you do it, Getting height for women is sad and pathetic.
Don't think that you're better looking than everyone else who is 5'10" and + on the forum that's straight up idiotic :D I consider myself very handsome too. And saying that you don't understand the 5'10" and up guys for wanting more height is just plain stupid, What if Peter Dinklage (135cm) came here and started to call you losers for wanting more height at 150cm and that you lack something that he doesn't and how popular and successful he is at his height (135cm). We have different reasons to do it, Some of us are more successful than you are and this has nothing to do with height, There are plenty of short and successful people but taller people are more successful on average. No need to show you superiority complex.
The superiority complex is an exaggerated striving for superiority in which the individual hides their feelings of inferiority. The inferiority complex, in contrast, is an exaggerated feeling of inferiority in which the individual hides their striving for superiority. While everyone has feelings of inferiority and strive to overcome them, to be called a complex, the feeling or striving must be pathological in nature. In the case of superiority complex, the individual would deny any feelings of inferiority, any attempt to uncover it would likely be met with resistance, or violence. While a patient may exhibit one complex or the other, Adler believed that if one complex was present, then the other can be found hidden in the patient's actions. Also, Adler believed that in every case of mental illness, an exaggerated feeling of inferiority will be found. Patients are defined not by whether or not they have an inferiority complex or superiority complex, but how it manifests itself in the patient's actions.[citation needed]
"We should not be astonished if in the cases where we see an inferiority [feeling] complex we find a superiority complex more or less hidden. On the other hand, if we inquire into a superiority complex and study its continuity, we can always find a more or less hidden inferiority [feeling] complex."[2]
"If a person is a show-off it is only because she or he feels inferior, because she or he does not feel strong enough to compete with others on the useful side of life. That is why she or he stays on the useless side. She or he is not in harmony with society. It seems to be a trait of human nature that when individuals - both children and adults - feel weak, they want to solve the problems of life in such a way as to obtain personal superiority without any admixture of social interest. A superiority complex is a second phase. It is a compensation for the inferiority [feeling] complex."[3]
"The superiority complex is one of the ways that a person with an inferiority complex may use as a method of escape from her or his difficulties. She or he assumes that she or he is superior when she or he is not, and this false success compensates her or him for the state of inferiority which she or he cannot bear. The normal person does not have a superiority complex, she or he does not even have a sense of superiority. She or he has the striving to be superior in the sense that we all have ambition to be successful; but so long as this striving is expressed in work it does not lead to false valuations, which are at the root of mental disease."[4]
From Alfred Adler's point of view, an individual faced with a task wants to overcome or master the task. This is known as striving for superiority. For a well adapted individual, this striving is not for personal superiority over others, but an overcoming of the task, or finding useful answers to questions in life. When faced with the task, the individual will experience a feeling of inferiority or a sense that the current situation is not as good as it could be. This feeling is similar to stress. If the individual has not been properly trained, the task may seem too much to overcome and lead to an exaggerated feeling of inferiority, or intense anxiety. The individual may, after several unsuccessful attempts to accomplish the task, give up on mastering the task, experiencing the inferiority complex, or a depressed state. The individual may also make several attempts at solving the problem and find a solution to the problem that causes problems in other areas. An individual who answers the question "How can I be thin?" by not eating will become thin, but at the cost over their overall health.
An individual who is not properly trained to answer life's problems may turn from striving for superiority in useful ways to that of a personal superiority at all cost. If an individual cannot be better than another on their own merit, they will attempt to tear down another person or group to maintain their superior position.
-
Ill try to speak for the guys here who are 5'10" and +.
We aren't doing this for the same reasons that you do it, Getting height for women is sad and pathetic.
Don't think that you're better looking than everyone else who is 5'10" and + on the forum that's straight up idiotic :D I consider myself very handsome too. And saying that you don't understand the 5'10" and up guys for wanting more height is just plain stupid, What if Peter Dinklage (135cm) came here and started to call you losers for wanting more height at 150cm and that you lack something that he doesn't and how popular and successful he is at his height (135cm). We have different reasons to do it, Some of us are more successful than you are and this has nothing to do with height, There are plenty of short and successful people but taller people are more successful on average. No need to show you superiority complex.
I couldn't agree more.
-
i feel a lot of jealousy even from guys who are 178 cm.
-
Clearly the successful 5'10+ guys aren't on this forum because they are out getting laid and making money instead of obsessing over height.
-
Clearly the successful 5'10+ guys aren't on this forum because they are out getting laid and making money instead of obsessing over height.
This x1000. End of.
-
You're really pathetic in my eyes, But its your defense mechanisms that you where forced to build during your lives in order to achieve some sort of inner peace, But you still seek more height.
Why do this surgery if you are so successful\attractive\ and etc at your original heights?
People are greedy, We don't really appreciate what we have and want more.
If you had a chance to re-live your lives again at a new height, It wouldn't be 178cm for sure, Keep lying to your selves. Attacking people who are 5'10" and plus is just plain stupid, I might not agree with the guy that want's to be 193cm and is currently 185.5cm but i don't attack him verbally.
(http://ih2.redbubble.net/image.15548070.6557/cp,375x360,s,ffffff.jpg)
-
You're really pathetic in my eyes, But its your defense mechanisms that you've forced to build during your life's in order to achieve some sort of inner peace, But you still seek more height.
Why do this surgery if you are so successful\attractive\ and etc at your original heights?
Because you have real problems when you're short. Ever tried buying jeans while being 165cm? There are also some jobs which require a certain height. And many many more things...
-
Because you have real problems when you're short. Ever tried buying jeans while being 165cm? There are also some jobs which require a certain height. And many many more things...
I am aware and i sympathize you, I didn't say that i had problems with my height, Although there are a few delusional members who are 183-186cm that "feel short", And don't admit that they just want to be tall for the kicks of it.
I never said that i have experienced problems due to my height, There is a difference between wanting this and needing it, And i get it believe me.
Apparently it is true that most short people have complexes, I don't blame you tho.
-
Wouldn't it be better if we talked about LL, shared our experiences without giving our height and our social background?
-
I am aware and i sympathize you, I didn't say that i had problems with my height, Although there are a few delusional members who are 183-186cm that "feel short", And don't admit that they just want to be tall for the kicks of it.
I never said that i have experienced problems due to my height, There is a difference between wanting this and needing it, And i get it believe me.
Apparently it is true that most short people have complexes, I don't blame you tho.
I don't know about other people, but I'm not jealous, not even when I was shorter. For me it's more like wtf. Why would anyone do this voluntary, when you're short there is like a real need do this in a way, so I understand that a bit more, but it's still crazy.
Are you sure you know how what you're getting yourself into? It's a long and painful procedure, you will go nuts, 100%.
-
:o
I don't know about other people, but I'm not jealous, not even when I was shorter. For me it's more like wtf. Why would anyone do this voluntary, when you're short there is like a real need do this in a way, so I understand that a bit more, but it's still crazy.
Are you sure you know how what you're getting yourself into? It's a long and painful procedure, you will go nuts, 100%.
I get it, But this is a very vicious cycle, People who are much shorter than you might think the same that you think about us, and so on. This was originally meant for dwarfs and borderline dwarfs and people with leg discrepancy if i am not mistaking.
-
:o
I get it, But this is a very vicious cycle, People who are much shorter than you might think the same that you think about us, and so on. This was originally meant for dwarfs and borderline dwarfs and people with leg discrepancy if i am not mistaking.
Ok, you don't get it. Good luck on your LL then!
-
:o
I get it, But this is a very vicious cycle, People who are much shorter than you might think the same that you think about us, and so on. This was originally meant for dwarfs and borderline dwarfs and people with leg discrepancy if i am not mistaking.
You're 100% right.
Dwarves can do the surgery, and while they'll still either be dwarves or very short (but no longer a dwarf) after the surgery, it will still improve both their outlook on life and the practicality of their lives (being able to actually reach things). But yes, they'll still face discrimination.
Men who aren't dwarves but are very short can hope to reach 5'8/5'9 and hope to end MOST height discrimination.
If you're 5'10 or over, you aren't handicapped and you are 99.9% not gonna experience external discrimination, no matter how horrible being this oh-so-terribly-short-height makes you feel.
But we can agree to disagree. If being 5'10 is torturous to some of you, I simply don't know what to say. You're entitled to your feelings, and my heart goes out to you...but not for reasons you may believe.
Anywho, I'm done. Live and let live I guess!
-
(http://tvguru.cz/gameofthrones/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/520120924135444001_t607.jpg)
-
(http://tvguru.cz/gameofthrones/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/520120924135444001_t607.jpg)
That's doesn't count. Peter Dinklage is a famous Hollywood actor.
-
Lol y u mad tho?
-
I'm not. Im just stating that a celeb is not a good example of someone who could get a perfect 10 woman. Most men like that will never ever get a woman that looks that good.
-
What about RGKEY? He seems to be a proper man-whore and he's about 173CM.
-
What about RGKEY? He seems to be a proper man-whore and he's about 173CM.
173cm or 5'8" is probably not too bad actually. If you have a toned body and good things happening to you, you could get a 9 or a 10. It's usually 5'6" or below when it turns women off allthough Mexican women often date Mexican men around those heights rather than caucasian men 6'0" and up.
-
173cm or 5'8" is probably not too bad actually. If you have a toned body and good things happening to you, you could get a 9 or a 10. It's usually 5'6" or below when it turns women off allthough Mexican women often date Mexican men around those heights rather than caucasian men 6'0" and up.
What about RGKEY? He seems to be a proper man-whore and he's about 173CM.
Before doing LL, perhaps you guys should pay RGKEY a visit, spend a month with him and learn the art of picking up women. This may probably save your legs, time, money and general wellbeing ;)
-
Before doing LL, perhaps you guys should pay RGKEY a visit, spend a month with him and learn the art of picking up women. This may probably save your legs, time, money and general wellbeing ;)
You don't honestly believe in that PUA crap do you? If that be the case, your better off getting ll as for ll will make you taller and pick up lines will only alienate women unless they are brain dead women.
-
What about RGKEY? He seems to be a proper man-whore and he's about 173CM.
I've had hot women at 167cm, no PUA required. And I know plenty of 173/5'8" guys who have smokehouses for gfs. Height or lack thereof does not necessarily preclude getting quality women, though more height of course helps. I'm doing LL to get to at least 5'8 to feel somewhat average-ish and blend in more. Simple as that.
-
Not sure what "PUA" is ("Pick-Up Attraction"?) but if you are charming and mature you'll get your women trust me.
-
Don't take my above comment seriously. But I agree with the members that height or any PUA stuff isn't really necessary to ensure quality women.
-
I've had hot women at 167cm, no PUA s**t required. And I know plenty of 173/5'8" guys who have smokehouses for gfs. Height or lack thereof does not necessarily preclude getting quality women, though more height of course helps. I'm doing LL to get to at least 5'8 to feel somewhat average-ish and blend in more. Simple as that.
Yeah of course not. PUA is fraud. They recruit gorgeous women pay them next to nothing and claim that their method is what got them those women. From my almost 28 years on this planet would say join a recreation activity in your area with guys of a similar interest (Martial Arts, Basketball, Music etc.) and you'll usually meet smoking hot women there. And college is also a great place to meet quality women.
Not sure what "PUA" is ("Pick-Up Attraction"?) but if you are charming and mature you'll get your women trust me.
It's Pick Up Arts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickup_artist
You are correct but best way is get social proof or stand out. Go to a club/bar with a girl or a guy who's good with girls and getting women will be easier. You can also stand out just don't do the usual "Hi My name is John" or whatever your name is patter cause she'll blow you off.
But basically What I said above is the best way to get women. Make friends with some guys and get into their social circle and they'll usually have women connected to them and they'll talk to you unless you are extremely disrespectful to them.
Don't take my above comment seriously. But I agree with the members that height or any PUA stuff isn't really necessary to ensure quality women.
Yeah It's always hard to tell who's being serious or not when you type but I had a feeling you were joking. PUA is all the same patter, I sucked with women so I did this and that and you can see that it yielded results cause gorgeous women are following me around or, I am not a PUA and being an alpha male is what all women want. It's all a marketing scheme. I have seen plenty of gorgeous women who could care less who's the alpha male or not.
-
Before doing LL, perhaps you guys should pay RGKEY a visit, spend a month with him and learn the art of picking up women. This may probably save your legs, time, money and general wellbeing ;)
Yup , I will learn form Master Rgkey ,hahaha .He is very good with woman ,Master Rgkey :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
-
Yeah It's always hard to tell who's being serious or not when you type but I had a feeling you were joking. PUA is all the same patter, I sucked with women so I did this and that and you can see that it yielded results cause gorgeous women are following me around or, I am not a PUA and being an alpha male is what all women want. It's all a marketing scheme. I have seen plenty of gorgeous women who could care less who's the alpha male or not.
Yeah it's all pretty much a marketing scheme along with all the self help books. Even the alpha male idea is pretty much overrated. If you're confident regardless how you look then you're already alpha imo.
Anyways, I don't judge or envy taller guys getting LL, I never envied taller guys even when I was 162cm. 185cm is a perfect height for a guy and should not be a hindrance when it comes to women since you're considered tall. Believe it or not but a lot of the women I know have called guys tall when they're merely 5'10 or 5'11. Only guys who have severe height neurosis hold on to the belief that a person has to be of _cm tall in order to be successful with women and in life. Perhaps, you can improve in other areas to improve your self esteem and avoid the arduous, painful and barbaric LL journey :-\ But even if you do decide and undergo LL, I will respect your decision and support you. At the end of the day, you know best what makes you happy.
Also, I'm curious to know whether you have consulted any LL doctors and which doctors are you considering? I believe that some doctors are pretty strict with height restrictions. Will you start a diary?
-
Yeah it's all pretty much a marketing scheme along with all the self help books. Even the alpha male idea is pretty much overrated. If you're confident regardless how you look then you're already alpha imo.
Anyways, I don't judge or envy taller guys getting LL, I never envied taller guys even when I was 162cm. 185cm is a perfect height for a guy and should not be a hindrance when it comes to women since you're considered tall. Believe it or not but a lot of the women I know have called guys tall when they're merely 5'10 or 5'11. Only guys who have severe height neurosis hold on to the belief that a person has to be of _cm tall in order to be successful with women and in life. Perhaps, you can improve in other areas to improve your self esteem and avoid the arduous, painful and barbaric LL journey :-\ But even if you do decide and undergo LL, I will respect your decision and support you. At the end of the day, you know best what makes you happy.
Also, I'm curious to know whether you have consulted any LL doctors and which doctors are you considering? I believe that some doctors are pretty strict with height restrictions. Will you start a diary?
Im going to plan a consultation with Salameh in 2015 as soon as I've paid my credit card debt.
I'm hoping it works out so I can do CLL in 2016 because for a low price and the least amount of pain, he's probably #1 if not close to it. I will probably have to finance for it realistically cause I only make 20k per year.
-
Im going to plan a consultation with Salameh in 2015 as soon as I've paid my credit card debt.
I'm hoping it works out so I can do CLL in 2016 because for a low price and the least amount of pain, he's probably #1 if not close to it. I will probably have to finance for it realistically cause I only make 20k per year.
I was trying not to judge you but if you have a credit card debt, only make 20k per year and will be spending that entire amount on a surgery you don't even need (although you want it) I'll be doubting the soundness of your judgements in general. Sure, it's your life, do what you want do with it and do what makes you happy, but it's such a tragic waste of time and resources. I've spoken with way shorter guys who wanted to do this surgery and were considering going under serious debt for it, I also told them not to. As long as one has the financial stability and freedom to do LL, heck, shoot for 2 meters if you want. I don't know you personally, I just don't want you making a decision you'll regret later. Other than that, Salameh is a good choice considering your budget, but you'll have to lengthen in Frankfurt, Germany - in which case the surgery will get a tad more expensive. Surely you won't go to Syria under these conditions.
-
I was trying not to judge you but if you have a credit card debt, only make 20k per year and will be spending that entire amount on a surgery you don't even need (although you want it) I'll be doubting the soundness of your judgements in general. Sure, it's your life, do what you want do with it and do what makes you happy, but it's such a tragic waste of time and resources. I've spoken with way shorter guys who wanted to do this surgery and were considering going under serious debt for it, I also told them not to. As long as one has the financial stability and freedom to do LL, heck, shoot for 2 meters if you want. I don't know you personally, I just don't want you making a decision you'll regret later. Other than that, Salameh is a good choice considering your budget, but you'll have to lengthen in Frankfurt, Germany - in which case the surgery will get a tad more expensive. Surely you won't go to Syria under these conditions.
No. Syria is too dangerous. That may change when I lengthen but not counting on it. It may be longer than I expect since I financed a car in 2012 and have student loans I need to pay. I know this situation isn't permanent but it will change in the future but the near future is what I want. I think doing 2"-3" probably won't be regretful however, I do have to consider this surgery through a consultation because I know I'm human and that sometimes the things we want most could harm us. As much as some of these guys say and I don't want to admit it, I may just have Mommy/Daddy issues and I think altering my body would be a way to resolve it. I would suggest for myself though to invest in some activities and start an internship and enjoy life in the meantime because it could be a while before I can afford this surgery and even then I may reconsider one day.
-
Personally I just want to stop feeling short but for some reason I can't do that. If I get to 186CM I'll meet plenty of taller men but I will take confidence in knowing I'm not objectively smaller than my friends any more. It'll be great to blend in -heightwise of course, hopefully people wll notice me on my merits.
-A question: I've heard businessmen in general are very tall (to give a upper hand in negotiations and so) is that true?
-
If you read certain studies, you'll learn that most North American CEOs are many inches above average height, on average. This makes sense, since much of that realm is based on showboating and presence. Taller men would naturally be more comfortable asserting themselves in a physical fashion and to act overbearing when they feel it would be advantageous to their intent. Most people probably feel intimidated by this ability, and thus, the taller men are the most commonly found top dogs in executive roles.
-
How tall are we talking? I think I read somewhere that the average swedish ceo was 186CM would you say that is a respectable height in the world of international business?
-
How tall are we talking? I think I read somewhere that the average swedish ceo was 186CM would you say that is a respectable height in the world of international business?
The average american CEO is 6'3" and 6'4" (190.5-193cms) and sometimes taller. I'm doing ll to be a CEO of some corporation! lol jk.
-
Personally I just want to stop feeling short but for some reason I can't do that. If I get to 186CM I'll meet plenty of taller men but I will take confidence in knowing I'm not objectively smaller than my friends any more. It'll be great to blend in -heightwise of course, hopefully people wll notice me on my merits.
-A question: I've heard businessmen in general are very tall (to give a upper hand in negotiations and so) is that true?
You want to do it for the wrong reasons. At 175cm my group of friends tower still all over (they are around 195cm) over me, imagine how it looked like when I was 165cm ;D. But I just don't care and so should you, I know it's easy to say that, but trust me even at 186cm there will a lot of people who will be a lot taller than you. Buy some Nike Airmax and you'll be 183cm around your friends which is fine. Compare yourself to small women, you will feel huge, well at least I do ;D
And about being tall in the buisness world, it is just more common, there are a lot if reasons why, but being short won't hinder you at all when you have a good education and are good in what you do. Probably CEO's are tall because they are a representative for a company, so ofc they take someone who looks good, which tall people tend to do in suits. But as I said, being short if you're good won't hinder you.
-
You want to do it for the wrong reasons. At 175cm my group of friends tower still all over (they are around 195cm) over me, imagine how it looked like when I was 165cm ;D. But I just don't care and so should you, I know it's easy to say that, but trust me even at 186cm there will a lot of people who will be a lot taller than you. Buy some Nike Airmax and you'll be 183cm around your friends which is fine. Compare yourself to small women, you will feel huge, well at least I do ;D
And about being tall in the buisness world, it is just more common, there are a lot if reasons why, but being short won't hinder you at all when you have a good education and are good in what you do. Probably CEO's are tall because they are a representative for a company, so ofc they take someone who looks good, which tall people tend to do in suits. But as I said, being short if you're good won't hinder you.
Thanks man I understand you're trying to help -and you are but let me put it this way:
I could probably go on and live a good life at 179CM. I would be pretty short by north european standards and I would feel bad about it from time to time but it wouldn't ruin my life or keep from doing anything that I want to. However I feel bad enough about this (and it hasn't gotten better in almost a year) that I'm afraid I'll never be as happy as if I had done the surgey -that's all there is.
Leg lenghtening is something I don't want to do but I really believe -I'm sure of it actually- that in the long run I will be happier if I suck it up for a year and deal with pain, loss of time/money, temporal disability and more or less disproportion. After that I'll be able to move on and live a happier life afterwards. For me I think it's a worthwhile tradeoff overall.
-
Thanks man I understand you're trying to help -and you are but let me put it this way:
I could probably go on and live a good life at 179CM. I would be pretty short by north european standards and I would feel bad about it from time to time but it wouldn't ruin my life or keep from doing anything that I want to. However I feel bad enough about this (and it hasn't gotten better in almost a year) that I'm afraid I'll never be as happy as if I had done the surgey -that's all there is.
Leg lenghtening is something I don't want to do but I really believe -I'm sure of it actually- that in the long run I will be happier if I suck it up for a year and deal with pain, loss of time/money, temporal disability and more or less disproportion. After that I'll be able to move on and live a happier life afterwards. For me I think it's a worthwhile tradeoff overall.
You know better what you need. Good luck then!!
-
Thanks man I understand you're trying to help -and you are but let me put it this way:
I could probably go on and live a good life at 179CM. I would be pretty short by north european standards and I would feel bad about it from time to time but it wouldn't ruin my life or keep from doing anything that I want to. However I feel bad enough about this (and it hasn't gotten better in almost a year) that I'm afraid I'll never be as happy as if I had done the surgey -that's all there is.
Leg lenghtening is something I don't want to do but I really believe -I'm sure of it actually- that in the long run I will be happier if I suck it up for a year and deal with pain, loss of time/money, temporal disability and more or less disproportion. After that I'll be able to move on and live a happier life afterwards. For me I think it's a worthwhile tradeoff overall.
Hey man I'm gonna be honest with you. You should be happy now even before CLL because it's an expensive overpriced operation and also being happy now is always an option. I understand that this is something you really want and I do to but I'm not sure what your financial situation is but it could be several years before you get this surgery and waiting for it to be complete and then be happy could be discomforting.