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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #310 on: June 25, 2017, 11:27:52 AM »

@Tibike
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #311 on: June 25, 2017, 11:32:55 AM »





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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #312 on: June 28, 2017, 03:59:11 PM »

Latest x-rays:
http://imgur.com/a/PZ5px

It seems like good consolidation.
Only a bit worried about the size of the bone, seems a bit too big. (5.6 cm in diameter)
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #313 on: June 28, 2017, 04:45:36 PM »

Wow. I don't know if this good or bad. Why don't you ask your doctor?

I guess all the weight training boosted bone growth?
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #314 on: June 28, 2017, 06:05:17 PM »

Dr. Monegal says I can be very happy.
Training: I actually train very little, only around 30 minutes per day. I think this is far less than average, right?
I hear most people train like 1-2 hours per day, right?
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #315 on: July 19, 2017, 10:47:49 AM »

Doing some jumps in Regent's Park, London:

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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #316 on: July 19, 2017, 10:58:03 AM »

good recovery but you just made 5cm
but I'm happy for you, enjoy
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #317 on: July 19, 2017, 04:52:13 PM »

Is it normal that the bone becomes so thick, and non-uniform after consolidation? It takes away space for the muscles, and the skin, doesn't it?
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #318 on: July 19, 2017, 05:06:54 PM »

Is it normal that the bone becomes so thick, and non-uniform after consolidation? It takes away space for the muscles, and the skin, doesn't it?

Yes this is normal even in non LL bone breaks. The body forms a callus to protect itself from future breaks.
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #319 on: July 19, 2017, 05:07:48 PM »

Doing some jumps in Regent's Park, London:


Is that how you jumped before LL? The form looks kind of funny. Did you change the way you jump to accommidate for comfort or new biomechanics?
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #320 on: July 20, 2017, 12:18:38 AM »

Don't do that Helloworld you could break the nail and they would throw all the   on you as it happened with other patients
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #321 on: July 20, 2017, 09:52:10 AM »

I do not think that it is normal but common that bone become thicker at the fracture site.
I was worried as well, but Dr. Monegal said it is not a problem.
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #322 on: July 20, 2017, 09:54:05 AM »

Is that how you jumped before LL? The form looks kind of funny. Did you change the way you jump to accommidate for comfort or new biomechanics?

Jumping feels normal. But I do not know.
That is why I would recommend to all future LL patients to take videos of their legs, their running and their jumping, so that they have something to compare it to afterwards.
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #323 on: July 20, 2017, 09:56:24 AM »

Don't do that Helloworld you could break the nail and they would throw all the crap on you as it happened with other patients
Dr. Monegal has told me that I can do anything.
I think my bone is much stronger than before LL.
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #324 on: July 21, 2017, 11:31:50 AM »

Timeline of my recovery
  • 1 December:   start lengthening
    15 December:   wheelchair but 100% self-sufficient (groceries, shower, toilet, etc.)
    20 December:    start go to gym every day (still no legs)
    1 January:           use stationary bike
    10 January:   swimm in pool
    20 January:   use walking frame to walk
    10 February:   go back to work in my Barcelona office
    15 February:   live in private apartment and go to private gym
    20 March:           start using crutches
    10 April:           stop lengthening
    20 April:           vacation in Tunisia, use no more crutches
    1 May:      use bike for daily commuting
    15 May:           starting to run slowly
    25 May:            play soccer, and walk normally, so my family does not notice the difference
    June-July:           everything almost 100% normal, but still working on running to get back to same speed

Time spend on exercise and stretching for quicker recovery
  • Pre LL:      25 minutes per day
    December-February:   2.5 hours
    February:      2 hours
    March:         1.5 hours
    April:         1.3 hours   
    May:          1 hour
    June:         45 minutes
    July:         35 minutes
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #325 on: July 21, 2017, 12:04:16 PM »

Good job man!I wanna try 6 cm femurs with fitbone,hopefully recovery will be same as yours
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #326 on: July 21, 2017, 07:32:52 PM »

Timeline of my recovery
  • 1 December:   start lengthening
    15 December:   wheelchair but 100% self-sufficient (groceries, shower, toilet, etc.)
    20 December:    start go to gym every day (still no legs)
    1 January:           use stationary bike
    10 January:   swimm in pool
    20 January:   use walking frame to walk
    10 February:   go back to work in my Barcelona office
    15 February:   live in private apartment and go to private gym
    20 March:           start using crutches
    10 April:           stop lengthening
    20 April:           vacation in Tunisia, use no more crutches
    1 May:      use bike for daily commuting
    15 May:           starting to run slowly
    25 May:            play soccer, and walk normally, so my family does not notice the difference
    June-July:           everything almost 100% normal, but still working on running to get back to same speed

Time spend on exercise and stretching for quicker recovery
  • Pre LL:      25 minutes per day
    December-February:   2.5 hours
    February:      2 hours
    March:         1.5 hours
    April:         1.3 hours   
    May:          1 hour
    June:         45 minutes
    July:         35 minutes

You probably have one of the most successful stories regardless of doctor or method. Seems like you were extremely lucky!
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #327 on: July 23, 2017, 06:55:17 AM »

You probably have one of the most successful stories regardless of doctor or method. Seems like you were extremely lucky!
Thanks!
But actually I have met many patients here in Spain in all seem to follow a very similar recovery. Some maybe slightly slower, some slightly faster. Nobody is complaining about any more discomfort than I, but nobody seemed to have less discomfort than I. Everybody is getting to close to 100%, but I yet have to find one person who is able to run as fast after LL as before LL.
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #328 on: August 02, 2017, 12:35:54 PM »

I was in London for over 6 weeks.
That meant I could not follow my daily routine of going to the gym, and average exercise decrease from like 35 minutes to like 15.
But when I came back to the gym this week I found that my legs where actually stronger than before I left!
So it seems that time is more important than exercise for recovery.
Or it might be that 2 * 6 minutes of high intensity work out in nature is better than 35 minutes in the gym.
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #329 on: August 03, 2017, 11:53:30 AM »

One more video: I did 20 jumps but my friend did not record correctly so I just did a few more for the video.
This is routine try to use every day to increase my jumping power. (btw you see 50 cm but it is actually 75 cm vertically)
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #330 on: August 04, 2017, 07:18:34 AM »

What % of your athletic ability have you gotten back? Were you athletic before?

Right now it looks like that is about 50% of my athletic ability.
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #331 on: August 04, 2017, 08:44:11 AM »

In terms of weight I would say 120%. But I did not go to the gym before LL.
In terms of speed I would say 80%.
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #332 on: August 05, 2017, 12:03:45 AM »

Where can i find the success rate of Dr. Monegal?
And what do you think is a reasonable timeframe from surgery to walking semi-normal if i would do the same operation (5,5cm).
The risks scares the s... out of me, ive been contemplating this surgery for 4 years now.
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #333 on: August 05, 2017, 06:21:10 AM »

for me 5 month to walk almost normally:

1 December:   start lengthening
15 December:   wheelchair but 100% self-sufficient (groceries, shower, toilet, etc.)
20 December:    start go to gym every day (still no legs)
1 January:           use stationary bike
10 January:   swimm in pool
20 January:   use walking frame to walk
10 February:   go back to work in my Barcelona office
15 February:   live in private apartment and go to private gym
20 March:           start using crutches
10 April:           stop lengthening
20 April:           vacation in Tunisia, use no more crutches
1 May:      use bike for daily commuting
15 May:           starting to run slowly
25 May:            play soccer, and walk normally, so my family does not notice the difference
June-July:           everything almost 100% normal, but still working on running to get back to same speed

Dr. Monegal: I think 100% success rate, you can see it in many diaries on this forum.
Only bad cases I am aware off:
 - Cooper, where doctor was not able to finish since patient went back to his old doctor
- Musicmaker, where bone got fractured during surgery.
- one patient that lengthened at 2mm per day (twice as much as maximum allowed)  and know claims to have nerve damage.
Other than that I only know of small things like fitbone screw replacement or preconsolidation, which is not failure.
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #334 on: August 05, 2017, 06:54:13 AM »

Thank you very much for your fast reply. Theres one thing more, i know that you mentioned the price before but how much do you think everyone should budget for this operation.
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #335 on: August 05, 2017, 09:08:51 AM »

45,000 euro.
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #336 on: August 05, 2017, 10:49:57 AM »

Hey helloworld! You're looking good!

On va se voir bientot  ;)
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #337 on: August 05, 2017, 11:23:57 AM »

45,000 euro.
What this price contains?
I think than internal with Monegal cost 37.500 euros, what exactly the extra 7.500 are?
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #338 on: August 06, 2017, 07:57:48 AM »

What this price contains?
I think than internal with Monegal cost 37.500 euros, what exactly the extra 7.500 are?
I heared that Dr. Monegal will likely increase price, but believe it is still 37.500 euro for everything.
However, this does not include the flight to Barcelona, the stay at the recovery centre or hotel, nor your meals once you are out of the hospital, nor the lost earnings that you might have due to having to work less during recovery.
So if your bank account is 0 after you spent money on surgery you might have problem.
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #339 on: August 06, 2017, 11:47:38 AM »

I heared that Dr. Monegal will likely increase price, but believe it is still 37.500 euro for everything.
However, this does not include the flight to Barcelona, the stay at the recovery centre or hotel, nor your meals once you are out of the hospital, nor the lost earnings that you might have due to having to work less during recovery.
So if your bank account is 0 after you spent money on surgery you might have problem.
I only talked about surgical fees. Of course living there and tickets increase the cost.

Is there a reason for an increase in Monegal's fees? If money is not the reason he operates for LL, as some of his patients say, then I can't see why he wants to increase his prices.
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Re: Limb lengthening with Fitbone
« Reply #340 on: August 06, 2017, 12:18:00 PM »

If money is not the main reason he operates for LL
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