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Yau

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Re: Femurs & Tibias with Dr Paley
« Reply #682 on: April 23, 2023, 03:06:01 AM »

I am considering Dr Paley, so I really want to know the current status of My Evolution.
Hi! MyEvolution! Hope u can tell us your recovery after the rods removal. Your feedback helps us a lot.
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Re: Femurs & Tibias with Dr Paley
« Reply #683 on: May 15, 2023, 01:32:58 PM »

It would be great if you post your walking
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Re: Femurs & Tibias with Dr Paley
« Reply #684 on: May 16, 2023, 02:57:26 PM »

Any recent update?
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Re: Femurs & Tibias with Dr Paley
« Reply #685 on: May 20, 2023, 03:10:13 PM »

If you have recent imaging data please put it at this thread. Redact any information that could be used to dox you.
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Re: Femurs & Tibias with Dr Paley
« Reply #686 on: July 28, 2023, 07:15:09 PM »

I am considering Dr Paley, so I really want to know the current status of My Evolution.
Hi! MyEvolution! Hope u can tell us your recovery after the rods removal. Your feedback helps us a lot.

When are you thinking of having surgery with Paley?
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Re: Femurs & Tibias with Dr Paley
« Reply #687 on: October 07, 2023, 09:00:42 PM »

Sometimes I look back to this diary & It feels like a dream. I can’t believe I really went from 5’4 to around 5’11. I’ve ran into so many people, people my old height & just watch how hard life is for them. I cry inside wishing I could reach into their soul & offer a solution & tell them I know exactly how they feel. Ive gotten into arguments with many girls defending short guys as they try to ridicule them in my presence.

I am so glad I did this surgery & am even more glad I left a diary for everyone to refer to. My only regret is that I did not create a concise step by step program for everyone to follow. I have 1000’s of messages in my inbox so I am sorry to everyone I was not able to get back to, I hope you all hit your goals. I was having a convo today with my brother & he suggested I make an actual “course” on how to max out on your length goals safely. If I followed through with this, would you be interested in paying for it? If so, how much would it be worth to you? This will help me figure out how much time to spend on it, although I do plan on making it as simple as possible

Thanks, love you all
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Re: Femurs & Tibias with Dr Paley
« Reply #688 on: October 08, 2023, 02:25:34 AM »

I should post a video for you guys of my atheltic ability now to really wrap this up
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Re: Femurs & Tibias with Dr Paley
« Reply #689 on: October 08, 2023, 04:09:42 AM »

Hey @MyEvolution thanks for the diary. 2 questions:

(1) Did you do arms? If not how do you feel about the proportion? Any comments?

(2) If someone could rebreak at 5'8 to get to 5'10 would you recommend it to them? Is the whole downtime of the process x2 worth it?
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Re: Femurs & Tibias with Dr Paley
« Reply #690 on: October 11, 2023, 09:07:25 PM »

I was having a convo today with my brother & he suggested I make an actual “course” on how to max out on your length goals safely. If I followed through with this, would you be interested in paying for it? If so, how much would it be worth to you? This will help me figure out how much time to spend on it, although I do plan on making it as simple as possible

Thanks, love you all
absolutely no one will pay for your course, thanks. More than enough info on the forum and on the wider internet.
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Unilateral Quadrilateral Lengthening 2021/22 w/ Koehne
Pre-Surgery: 1.67 m
Post-Surgery: 1.76 m
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Re: Femurs & Tibias with Dr Paley
« Reply #691 on: January 01, 2024, 11:00:55 AM »

Does the quadrilateral, lengthen by 1mm / 0.75mm per day (femur/tibia)? or only 0.75 mm / 0.5 mm per day?
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Re: Femurs & Tibias with Dr Paley
« Reply #692 on: May 21, 2024, 07:39:55 AM »

Please do. It would be great to know about of you recovered to regular athletic ability and walking now. Thanks.
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Re: Femurs & Tibias with Dr Paley
« Reply #693 on: July 12, 2024, 03:08:42 PM »

Yes def worth it, you go from average to above average height
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Re: Femurs & Tibias with Dr Paley
« Reply #694 on: July 12, 2024, 03:10:34 PM »

Funny thing I went out on a date With a girl last night super hot, I casually asked her what’s the shortest guy you would go for and her reply was “5’11 if he checks ll the boxes cause i’m 5’5 & like to wear heels. “
“You’re like what, 6’0? “
Im like
“Yaaaaa……”
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Re: Femurs & Tibias with Dr Paley
« Reply #695 on: July 12, 2024, 06:49:43 PM »

They literally don't know the difference atp and just say 6'0 for the number.  You should've told her you were 5'8 or something and see her reaction
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Re: Femurs & Tibias with Dr Paley
« Reply #696 on: July 12, 2024, 07:36:41 PM »

MyEvolution, what was your reach before AL and how long is it now?

How much you lengthened your legs in total and what is your average daily height you stand at currently?
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Re: Femurs & Tibias with Dr Paley
« Reply #697 on: July 13, 2024, 01:59:51 PM »

This was an incredible story, but it does make me wonder if the reason we never got MyEv's athleticism video is because he's debilitated.

Clearly it was worth it for him in any case, but it'd be nice to have full disclosure to help people make an informed decision.
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Re: Femurs & Tibias with Dr Paley
« Reply #698 on: September 09, 2024, 09:38:28 AM »

Yeah, I agree. it's a bit suspicious to have no closure statement, and he did have many complications. I think whatever people on diaries might claim to do, we should just stick to the safe guidelines of 7 + 5 cm. Even 6 + 4cm isn't too bad to get the best results. I'd rather be an inch shorter and not have to suffer from leg pain my whole life.
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Re: Femurs & Tibias with Dr Paley
« Reply #699 on: March 17, 2025, 01:35:11 PM »

😂😂😂 thats funny , I’m actually very athletic. I play sports with normal people be it basketball, boxing, pickleball & no one can tell I did LL. I’ve done a full recovery

I’m just scared to post myself because the risk of getting exposed far outweighs any benefits of showing the community.

The only real “con” out of all this has been my expectations

When i was 5’4 i really thought becoming 5’11 would make me a cheat code. In all honesty, it definitely has increased my dating circle like crazy. But i dont get the benefits of being “tall”

I go out with my buddy who’s 6’3 & granted, women at bars are super hypergamous, but they will literally throw themselves at him. Thats what I was expecting being 5’11 but it’s not true. At 5’11 you’re more or less normal, not tall by any means. Even when wearing lifts


But that being said i am grateful to have gone through this. I wish my starting height was 5’8 so I could be like 6’3 rn so i can feel a reward in proportion to the pain i went through to get here. But i am healthy, i’m fit, & being an athletic 5’11 for the rest of my life is way better than being 5’4 so i’ll take it

Maybe once day i’ll post my fitness but i just dont see the pros, only risks of getting exposed lol
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Re: Femurs & Tibias with Dr Paley
« Reply #700 on: March 17, 2025, 01:37:16 PM »

Hey @MyEvolution thanks for the diary. 2 questions:

(1) Did you do arms? If not how do you feel about the proportion? Any comments?
No, but my reach could use some
(2) If someone could rebreak at 5'8 to get to 5'10 would you recommend it to them? Is the whole downtime of the process x2 worth it?
Def worth it, i would go for 6’2 6’3 as long as you are an athletic person low bodyfat %
It’s transformative

Heck i’m even debating going for a 3rd round to get to 6’3 but idk if it’s worth it anymore cause my turso wouldnt be good
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MyEvolution

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Re: Femurs & Tibias with Dr Paley
« Reply #701 on: March 17, 2025, 01:40:51 PM »

Yeah, I agree. it's a bit suspicious to have no closure statement, and he did have many complications. I think whatever people on diaries might claim to do, we should just stick to the safe guidelines of 7 + 5 cm. Even 6 + 4cm isn't too bad to get the best results. I'd rather be an inch shorter and not have to suffer from leg pain my whole life.

Bro the guidelines are there because people are lazy. You’ll see. Once you start you’ll notice most people do not stretch!!! Even when they are told to.

There is nothing wrong with going for the full 8 x 8
The only reason i couldnt hit the full 8cm in tibs is because my right leg kept healing way too fast, & in order to continue I would have had to rebreak a 3rd time. I wish i did it, woulda gained an extra 1cm. But if you put in the work 8 x 8 is safe and possible

Don’t sell yourself short
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Re: Femurs & Tibias with Dr Paley
« Reply #702 on: April 22, 2025, 01:55:33 PM »

After much consideration, I have decided that I will be going for another 8 cm in my femurs to reach a final height of 6 foot one (street height of 6’2). I am currently on the waitlist, awaiting the precise, max, weight-bearing nail.

Am i not already happy?
I am very happy with my current height. The goals I saw after when I was 5’5 have been achieved: I no longer suffer from depression, life has completely changed. I live a happy healthy normal life

Why do it?
The same reasons we all do it, to gain the benefits of being taller. Believe it or not, the benefits of getting taller continue up until you hit 6’4, after which there isnt anymore real benefit for being taller.

Dating life:
All things being equal by dating life has transformed from when I was 5’5 until now 5’10
Every 3 inches that I grew, my dating pool, increased dramatically. It is sad to say, but the world we live in today, I know that another 3 inches will also dramatically increase my dating pool. No question that a 6’2 athletic male will attract a higher tier dating pool then his equivalent 510 athletic male

Is this a responsible choice or am I being greedy?
I’ll say there are two main things to consider here
1. Finances, am I going into debt in order to do this?
2. Proportions, does my wingspan allow for it?

I am thankful that when i was 5’5 i was so driven to fix this issue that i started a successful business of which, to this day is still paying me. I have more than enough saved, I have a big investment portfolio + a bunch of real estate investments + more than enough cash to fund this & some.

Proportions: My wingspan is 5’10, my legs current make up 57% of my total height. My wingspan being 5’10 is the main reason i am able to do this again. After much research, i discovered that before doing LL, my ape index was +6 (5’10 reach, at 5’4 & 1/2) which made me look even shorter than I was!! I had gorilla arms, which if you scroll back to the start of my diary, you will see this is evident in the video.
According to my research:
•   Starting Height: 5’10” (178 cm)
   •   Wingspan: 5’10” (178 cm)
   •   Ape Index: 0
   •   Legs (currently): 57% of your height
   •   Lengthening Plan: +8cm to femurs



After Lengthening:
   •   New Height: 6’1” (185.5 cm)
   •   Wingspan: Still 5’10” (178 cm)
   •   New Ape Index: -3.5 inches (a negative ape index)
   •   New Leg-to-Height Ratio: ~58.85%



Does This Look Weird?
   •   A -3.5” ape index is rare but not unheard of — especially in non-athletes.
People with ape indices from -2 to -4 inches do exist and can look totally normal depending on body type and proportions.
   •   Your arms will not look “T-Rex” unless other proportions (like shoulder width or upper arm length) are very short — which in your case, they are average, based on your photos.
   •   58.85% leg ratio is still within normal human variation, especially for someone tall — and well below the 60%+ range, which is where things begin to look off.



Summary Judgment:
   •   Visually Normal? Yes — you’ll still look balanced and normal, especially fully clothed.
   •   Ape Index Noticeable? Maybe to extremely trained eyes or shirtless in a very specific pose, but almost no one will consciously notice.
   •   Camera Friendly? Yes — you’ll look totally fine on TV or social media.

Here is a photo of my current physique

https://imgur.com/a/kJc0RpS

I will keep you guys updated with a mobility & athletics video before I do round 3 to show you guys my full recovery

Thanks
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Re: Femurs & Tibias with Dr Paley
« Reply #703 on: April 22, 2025, 11:59:47 PM »

Good luck - your journal was a big inspiration for me to go through with the procedure. I remember I first started following way back in 2018. I went from 5'7 to slightly over 5'10 1/2. Keep us updated.
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Re: Femurs & Tibias with Dr Paley
« Reply #704 on: April 25, 2025, 02:17:59 AM »

Hello all

I will be making my video soon. If you have any questions feel free to ask so i can answer them in the video

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