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Re: Yellowspike - Dr. Guichet, Internal Femurs, Late 2014
« Reply #837 on: April 20, 2016, 04:17:58 AM »

Interesting point. I'm in my very early 30s, and I'm on my third major job, but fourth overall (had a short-term gig right out of college). So maybe I could pull off what you just said. My only concern is that it's a lot easier to get a new job (and a better salary)if you have a job. There's the possibility of working from home and I think my current firm offers up to 6 months temporary disability...but I don't know. I don't know what I'd tell people (it's a smaller firm, so everyone kinda knows you, although that was sorta the case at my old firm), and my role is super important and busy. So I just don't know how I'm gonna pull it off.

In response to your question, even if I had more time, I don't think I'd go past 4cm (about 1.5 inches) because I have to worry about proportions. But if I were 5'9" now at least, I'd honestly be happy.

Thx! Appreciate response. It's tough to use a temporarily disabled option when one is integral to the firm. It certainly will bring up the questions of WHY/WHAT, which few want to answer. I can do that myself and probably will have to, but you brought up a GREAT point, the possibility of working from home. I work on a computer and have some calls throughout the day but telecommuting is what I usually do. How realistic is it to try to work at home or hotel while lengthening? Clearly time off for PT mid day needed, but that's only an hr plus transportation in West Palm. I feel like I could do say 9-5 computer work with 2 hours for stretching in the middle. Cooper did something like that when doing femurs, before the troubles in Spain, working at home during lengthening. Program.dude made it sound like it was too hard to concentrate to work, learn a language, etc. And if you go back to Dr G won't you have like 6 hours of tough daily PT making work really tough while there? Guess I'd like to be able to work but thinking it's really a case by case basis of how much pain you have...?
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« Reply #838 on: June 07, 2016, 05:47:38 PM »

Haven't logged in/checked this site in a while. Just wanted to share my thoughts on a few things, as time has been passing.

I've been getting more comfortable with being 5'8". It's of course still not ideal. I still wish I was taller. But...I've been opening myself up more to see other men that I've known (and knew before the surgery)...and I've been seeing that there are several men I know who are below 5'7" who are living great lives. All the things that I want, actually. Yeah, maybe their wives aren't 10s (some are attractive, though), and I know they take sh*t for their height...but they're living their lives and are happy.

I have always been a perfectionist. Unfortunately, perfection really doesn't exist. It is unattainable. And most people that we wished we looked like just won the genetic lottery and were born that way. Yeah, we can exercise and starve ourselves and do surgeries into oblivion...but we'll never be "perfect" like some of these people. It's just not possible. I'm lucky to be solidly above average in looks as well as intelligence and success. And I'm telling myself more and more that that's enough.

I have faith I will eventually recover 100% (including athletic abilities). I've recovered well so far. I may or may not need a bone graft on my left leg. I've upped my intake of Calcium supplements and now only smoke occasionally (although I was only having 1-2 per day, didn't think that'd make such a big difference). And I've been eating very healthy, and physically look the best I ever have. I've been trying to stretch every single day, and that seems to have almost gotten rid of the right knee pain I was having. As of about a month ago (maybe more), I can comfortably touch the floor with the palms of my hands. I had been lazy with stretching for a long time, but try to do it every day now.

I don't regret the surgery one bit. I think I needed to do it. I always hated my height with a passion. And getting through the ordeal I think made me stronger and more appreciative of the little things. But I will say...I feel sort of bamboozled by certain diaries (ShyShy comes to mind). Nothing on him in particular or anyone...but certain diaries that make it seems like you can do this surgery and recover overnight (including running/sports, etc.) I feel are kind of lying. Granted...I had to work right after I ended lengthening, and all that sitting I'm sure set me back (and I did make all the effort I could to re-learn walking and such). But this sh*t takes forever, and there is sort of a "Pandora's Box" element to LL. You can be as healthy as a young spring chicken...but that does not guarantee you a complication-free ride. Femurs are supposedly usually fine, and I might need a left bone graft (not sure if I do, yet, have to wait it out a bit). I stopped smoking before the surgery and went back to having 1-2 a day last summer. I don't believe that's what did it (Dr. Rozbruch said ratcheting rods are particularly rough on healing). But on all accounts, I was a healthy and relatively young guy when I did this.

Aside from the left screw pain (which will go away once I get the screws out - might tie this in with the bone graft, if I need it), the possibility of a left leg bone graft (remains to be seen) and just general muscle tightness (which has made great strides, my walking feels pretty much effortless and free now - jogging isn't bad either), I am totally fine. I have no real pain aside from the left screw, and my right knee pain is virtually gone now. I don't regret this. My proportions are fine (especially now that my quads are nice and muscular again), and no one has ever commented on them. Obviously my proportions are less than perfect (duh), but when you're below 5'7"...the pros of being a little taller I think do outweigh the cons.

Even though I am confident I'll eventually fully recover from this, I'm not sure tibias are in the cards for me. After the rods come out/possible bone graft, I want to be done with this sh*t. There comes a point where you just have to make efforts to choose to be happy. And I am working on that. I am getting more comfortable with 5'8" as my final height. It will likely continue to be a struggle, but it has been getting easier. There's more to life than this sh*t. I have to see how I feel when the rods come out and where I'm at with my life. But no longer am I in the mindset of "I'm definitely doing this" with tibs.

And let me tell you - no matter what the "successful" diaries tell you...recovery from this (while definitely possible) takes a lot longer than you are lead to believe. And while you're recovering...it's hard to live all facets of your life completely normally. LL and minor complications (like my left screw pain issue) become like these annoying mosquitos that won't leave you alone. You can live your life...but these things can weigh on you after a while.

I still think the world of Dr. G and recommend this surgery, especially if you're below 5'7" and do it with a great doctor. But do not expect a ShyShy-like recovery. I think he (and others who have supposedly recovered "overnight") just got really, really lucky. I know he worked very hard (I did too), but he is not the norm. Expect that you will likely not be completely normal for (flexibility, running, general pain/tightness, etc.) around 2 years out, if not more.

Sorry in advance if I don't respond to any PMs or posts. Trying to avoid this site as much as possible. Happened to see a few recent posts, and just thought I'd weigh in. Just my thoughts for now. If you do this, think very, very carefully about the recovery.

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Re: Yellowspike - Dr. Guichet, Internal Femurs, Late 2014
« Reply #839 on: June 07, 2016, 06:04:15 PM »

Hey Yellowspike,

good to see you're still posting! Although you want to avoid that forum for "us" it's extremely helpful to have someone stay around, at least occasionally.

And of course i have a question for you:
Did you have any longterm side effect from medication or the trauma of surgery? something like the loss of sxxual function or libido for example?
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Re: Yellowspike - Dr. Guichet, Internal Femurs, Late 2014
« Reply #840 on: June 07, 2016, 06:55:51 PM »

glad to hear you're doing well yellow!  If you can live a happy life without having to go through another LL on your tibias then that's great.  you've already accomplished so much.

completely agree on what you've said about recovery. the whole journey takes way longer than just a few months and most people underestimate how long it really takes (myself included).

If it's not too much trouble, could you elaborate on needing a bone graft?  Is it because the bone on your left leg is not fully fused all around or is it fused and the consolidation/density of the new bone isn't good enough?  Would really appreciate it just so I know what to look out for in my own xrays...
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« Reply #841 on: June 07, 2016, 09:06:16 PM »

Hi Yellowspike

Thank you very much for your diary. I am a similar starting height to you and am very excited about potentially being 5ft8(I've always wanted to be atleast 5ft7). Your diary has really given me a better idea of what to expect, Thank you.

Perfectionism is a serious a problems and is something I have suffered from.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Be-Imperfectionist-Self-Acceptance-Perfectionism/dp/0996435409/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1465333232&sr=1-1&keywords=how+to+be+an+imperfectionist

This book helped me a lot with understanding perfectionism and the potential issues that arise due to it. One thing it mentioned is sort of "number perfectionism" where people get obsessed with being a certain height or weight and how to deal with this.

Check it out :)

2 years of not getting back to normal doesn't sound great.

I am getting it in London like you, any London related advise for me?
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Re: Yellowspike - Dr. Guichet, Internal Femurs, Late 2014
« Reply #842 on: June 08, 2016, 12:59:00 AM »

I was fortunate to have been able to meet Yellowspike a couple months ago.  I can tell you that his walking looked perfectly normal.  His proportions were definitely in a normal range. 

YS, I am glad that you are getting close to accepting your current height.  But if not I'll be ready to do LL with you next year bro :)
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« Reply #843 on: June 08, 2016, 12:51:37 PM »

Hey Yellowspike,

good to see you're still posting! Although you want to avoid that forum for "us" it's extremely helpful to have someone stay around, at least occasionally.

And of course i have a question for you:
Did you have any longterm side effect from medication or the trauma of surgery? something like the loss of sxxual function or libido for example?

No. My libido is the same as it was before. The only person I know who has said that (off the top of my head) is DIFM, and I think he's currently just depressed with his current state. But I think he's still not even a year in after his surgery - he still has a ton of recovering to do. It's still early days for him (at least, when we talk about REAL recovery. Not ridiculously and almost unbelievably fast recoveries like ShyShy).


glad to hear you're doing well yellow!  If you can live a happy life without having to go through another LL on your tibias then that's great.  you've already accomplished so much.

completely agree on what you've said about recovery. the whole journey takes way longer than just a few months and most people underestimate how long it really takes (myself included).

If it's not too much trouble, could you elaborate on needing a bone graft?  Is it because the bone on your left leg is not fully fused all around or is it fused and the consolidation/density of the new bone isn't good enough?  Would really appreciate it just so I know what to look out for in my own xrays...

Yeah. I definitely don't regret this, but still feel bamboozled by certain diaries. True recovery takes much longer, especially if you have responsibilities and can't focus on stretching and exercising 24/7/365.

I don't know exactly. I think my left leg didn't fuse entirely all around. But I feel like I wasn't taking enough calcium and such. My left leg has actually been feeling stronger since Dr. R told me this in early March, so maybe it's improved a bit. I used to have pain in that leg but really don't anymore. I have to get new x-rays and see. Glad I stopped at 7cm now.

Hi Yellowspike

Thank you very much for your diary. I am a similar starting height to you and am very excited about potentially being 5ft8(I've always wanted to be atleast 5ft7). Your diary has really given me a better idea of what to expect, Thank you.

Perfectionism is a serious a problems and is something I have suffered from.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Be-Imperfectionist-Self-Acceptance-Perfectionism/dp/0996435409/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1465333232&sr=1-1&keywords=how+to+be+an+imperfectionist

This book helped me a lot with understanding perfectionism and the potential issues that arise due to it. One thing it mentioned is sort of "number perfectionism" where people get obsessed with being a certain height or weight and how to deal with this.

Check it out :)

2 years of not getting back to normal doesn't sound great.

I am getting it in London like you, any London related advise for me?

You have the exactly same starting height as me. I would do 7cm, if you can. Don't go over 7cm. That's just asking for trouble (I know that now).

London advice? Ugh...just be sure you have your finances in order. London is ultra, ultra expensive. You will be relying on uber a lot too, mostly likely (since you'll likely live fairly far from where daily PT takes place). That's about it.


I was fortunate to have been able to meet Yellowspike a couple months ago.  I can tell you that his walking looked perfectly normal.  His proportions were definitely in a normal range. 

YS, I am glad that you are getting close to accepting your current height.  But if not I'll be ready to do LL with you next year bro :)

Thanks bud. You've become a legit good friend of mine. I'm currently undecided about tibias. I have to see how things are in about a year's time. I feel much better now than I did last year, and feel like I'm going to keep getting better. I still might wanna do tibs someday. Another inch would get me to a really great height, and would improve my proportions (which look fine to me now - I only feel like I have long femurs when I stare at myself nked in a full length mirror, and who really does that anyway? lol no girls have commented on it, even seeing me nked). But tibias scare me, and now with my left leg possibly needing a bone graft, I have some concerns about tibia consolidation (though Dr. R said femurs are not really an indication of how tibias will go, especially because ratcheting rods are rougher on recovery than Precice).

If I do tibs, you'll be the first to know and we'll def do this together. It'll be like the crippled leading the crippled  8)
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Re: Yellowspike - Dr. Guichet, Internal Femurs, Late 2014
« Reply #844 on: June 21, 2016, 01:31:33 AM »

Yellow how it going?  hows the healing process?  Hows life?  Sent you a pm :p hope your doing well mate
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« Reply #845 on: June 21, 2016, 01:37:47 PM »

Yellow how it going?  hows the healing process?  Hows life?  Sent you a pm :p hope your doing well mate

I am doing quite well my friend. Aside from the pain caused by the left screw (which I'm just suk up for now, since I've been dealing with it for a year and a half now), I'm fine. I might need a bone graft in my left leg, but that remains to be seen.

This surgery is worth it - but it takes time to really enjoy your results. You will be walking terribly for a while and have side effects/pain for quite a while after the surgery. But if you're patient, and can just grin and bear it - it is worth it in the end. It just takes a lot of time. Much more than you are lead to believe. Many of the older diaries out there downplay this big time.
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« Reply #846 on: June 22, 2016, 07:30:31 PM »

Hi Yellowspike

How bad would you say the pain is? does it effect what you can and can't do? Is the bone graft to do with poor consolidation?

Also I am looking for a place in London with a couple of my friends, would you say I should try and avoid houses with stairs or do you think I could use stairs?

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« Reply #847 on: June 22, 2016, 08:49:57 PM »

also how possible do you think it would be to drive? maybe not straight away, but how about like a month into consolidation?
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« Reply #848 on: June 23, 2016, 12:33:12 PM »

Hi Yellowspike

How bad would you say the pain is? does it effect what you can and can't do? Is the bone graft to do with poor consolidation?

Also I am looking for a place in London with a couple of my friends, would you say I should try and avoid houses with stairs or do you think I could use stairs?

If you're asking about the left screw pain, its not that bad...just very very annoying. It tends to flare up if I sleep on my left side a lot (although lately that hasn't really happened), if I do certain movements, certain sxx positions...it's just really annoying at this point. As for the bone graft, yeah, it has to do with my less than perfect consolidation on my left leg. It's weird...I feel like the left leg has been the bane of many LL'ers' existences based on past diaries. There's a chance I might not need it. Going for more x-rays within the next two weeks to see what's up. If I do need a bone graft, I'll likely wait until around September or so to do it. I was told I'd only be in the hospital one night, and that my insurance should cover it, so hopefully it's not too big a deal.

It's just luck of the draw. Dr. G said he had a 17 year old girl do LL, and she had slow consolidation (which you wouldn't think she would, since she was so young). LL in many ways = Pandora's Box.

also how possible do you think it would be to drive? maybe not straight away, but how about like a month into consolidation?

Yeah I think if you have a strong rod like the Gnail, driving one month post-clicking should be possible. I remember doing it two months post clicking. I probably could've done it earlier, but can't remember if I actually did.
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« Reply #849 on: June 23, 2016, 02:43:08 PM »

Thanks Yellowspike

How did you find stairs during lengthening? You think I could manage them e.g. raising and lowering myself just using my arms, like dips?
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« Reply #850 on: June 23, 2016, 02:48:34 PM »

Thanks Yellowspike

How did you find stairs during lengthening? You think I could manage them e.g. raising and lowering myself just using my arms, like dips?

I'm not sure how stairs would have work with a non-weight bearing rod...but with the Gnail, I was totally fine doing stairs with crutches. Obviously you have to go slowly and be super careful, but I had no problems with stairs throughout the lengthening process.
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« Reply #851 on: June 23, 2016, 08:28:06 PM »

I'm not sure how stairs would have work with a non-weight bearing rod...but with the Gnail, I was totally fine doing stairs with crutches. Obviously you have to go slowly and be super careful, but I had no problems with stairs throughout the lengthening process.

Gnail is the best for stairs. I'm not sure about Precise and I know Fitbone and Betzbone are very bad. The nails of many patients got broken. Some of them told the truth in their diaries and some of them didn't. I like Paley more but I think Gnail is better than Precise.
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« Reply #852 on: June 23, 2016, 08:41:59 PM »

Me and my friends have the betzbone and none of us has any problems climbing stairs from the beginning. It's just that we shouldn't take more than 1 stair going down while being in consolidation (that's what Betz said). But otherwise we'll be totally fine.
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« Reply #853 on: June 23, 2016, 10:21:00 PM »

All Monegal's patients report problems with stairs and some Betz patients too but nail bending and failure occured in both cases.
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« Reply #854 on: June 24, 2016, 12:45:52 PM »

Yeah the strength and weight-bearing capabilities were a huge reason of why I chose Dr. Guichet. Granted, I'm sure if you go with a non-weight bearing rod you can find accommodations to deal with it...but when I was starting to walk again unaided, drive my car again...just knowing I had the Gnail made me a lot more confident in what I was doing.
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« Reply #855 on: June 24, 2016, 06:41:26 PM »

Hey yellow,

Reading your various comments on the forum in the time I was gone, it seems like you've had a major mental shift for the positive.

I'm happy for you man!
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« Reply #856 on: June 27, 2016, 01:48:05 PM »

Hey yellow,

Reading your various comments on the forum in the time I was gone, it seems like you've had a major mental shift for the positive.

I'm happy for you man!

Thanks man. I'm just trying to accept it. The main thing...after you actually go and do LL...you really realize firsthand that height, while "tweak-able" is NOT fixable like acne, losing weight, getting braces, or even a nosejob. This sh*t takes a lot longer to really truly recover from. If you go with a good doctor and don't lengthen a crazy amount, you can and will recover...but it takes a LOT of time. And you will have a lot of annoying little things along the way that make it such that you're always aware of what you did. Or at least, aware a good amount of the time. I still don't know how certain people were able to recover so fast (or at least, as fast as we are lead to believe). But I think diaries like mine, DIFM and PD are a lot more realistic. You can and will recover...but not like ShyShy. No effin way.

The only real frustration I have with height now is online dating. I know plenty of guys that have great/pretty gfs that are below 5'9"...but they tended to have met their women in real life. So I've been trying to stay busy, expand my social circle, and try to meet women organically (while still doing online dating). I'm willing to make a lot of concessions on the height thing...but I stand by the fact that height is a big factor for online dating. Whether you want a hook-up or a wife, when we're talking online dating (which is where most if takes place now - even if you meet a girl in real life, you're still competing with her online world)...height counts a lot. Just the way it is.
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« Reply #857 on: June 27, 2016, 02:09:56 PM »

It's not easy to accept, trust me I know. (you're 1/2" taller than I)

Still, glad you're making progress.

Thanks for the crash course on online dating. If I ever end up divorced (likely), then it's good info to know. Especially since I think we are about the same age...I know what to expect.

No easy answers with the height thing, for sure.

I'm watching dream catchers diary closely, since that is probably the same route I would go if I did LL. So far? Kinda terrifying actually.
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« Reply #858 on: June 27, 2016, 02:28:40 PM »

It's not easy to accept, trust me I know. (you're 1/2" taller than I)

Still, glad you're making progress.

Thanks for the crash course on online dating. If I ever end up divorced (likely), then it's good info to know. Especially since I think we are about the same age...I know what to expect.

No easy answers with the height thing, for sure.

I'm watching dream catchers diary closely, since that is probably the same route I would go if I did LL. So far? Kinda terrifying actually.

Yeah but aren't you rich? LOL if you have money, I'd say that is the one thing that can override height. Of course, you don't want women that want you JUST for your money...but it's a major positive (and especially the fact that you earned it on your own) that can help overcome the major negative of being short.

The only thing that makes me not want to do a second LL is how damn long it takes. And tibias from what I hear just take sooooo much longer. There's more to life than this sh*t. Whatever...I have an awesome body (that I've busted my ass for, I look better than I ever have, actually), great facial aesthetics, I make over 6 figures (nothing special for where I live, but hey), am educated with a pretty good career...if that's not enough for some of these b*tches, that's fine. Being 5'8" (evening height - still must say that ;)) shouldn't kill me with all this other stuff. I'm just kinda...done.
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« Reply #859 on: June 27, 2016, 02:42:06 PM »

Yeah but aren't you rich? LOL if you have money, I'd say that is the one thing that can override height. Of course, you don't want women that want you JUST for your money...but it's a major positive (and especially the fact that you earned it on your own) that can help overcome the major negative of being short.

The only thing that makes me not want to do a second LL is how damn long it takes. And tibias from what I hear just take sooooo much longer. There's more to life than this sh*t. Whatever...I have an awesome body (that I've busted my ass for, I look better than I ever have, actually), great facial aesthetics, I make over 6 figures (nothing special for where I live, but hey), am educated with a pretty good career...if that's not enough for some of these b*tches, that's fine. Being 5'8" (evening height - still must say that ;)) shouldn't kill me with all this other stuff. I'm just kinda...done.

5'8 is nothing to be distraught over for sure. (talking to myself more so than you lol)

Yeah, gold diggers. They are EVERYWHERE. And yeah, I earned it myself. Most my family is broke. Just bought my parents a house actually.

Women want the world though. Bleh. Whatever. Still, there are tons of good girls out there...tons.
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« Reply #860 on: June 27, 2016, 02:44:45 PM »

5'8 is nothing to be distraught over for sure. (talking to myself more so than you lol)

Yeah, gold diggers. They are EVERYWHERE. And yeah, I earned it myself. Most my family is broke. Just bought my parents a house actually.

Women want the world though. Bleh. Whatever. Still, there are tons of good girls out there...tons.


Yeah I respect guys such as yourself, DIFM and PD who made their own fortunes. Not people who were just born into it and are rich snobs. I detest those kinds of people.

There are good and attractive women out there...but finding them really is like finding a tiny needle in a giant haystack. Maybe even harder.
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Re: Yellowspike - Dr. Guichet, Internal Femurs, Late 2014
« Reply #861 on: August 22, 2016, 05:22:52 PM »

Getting more and more comfortable with my height. I really don't think I'm going to do tibias after all. I trust Dr. Guichet with my life...and he has warned me against tibias several times, even if I were to only do 3-4cm. He says that femurs are typically an indicator of how tibias will go...and my femur consolidation was slow-ish. I think that my slow-ish (especially in my left leg) consolidation had to do with me being a light smoker and also that I restricted my calories so as not to become morbidly obese during LL. I did gain weight...I have pictures of myself from last year...horrible duck ass and a huge belly. Due to my post LL confidence...feeling like being a strong 5'8" is decent enough for a guy...I've invested a lot more in myself in terms of my wardrobe and time at the gym. And I'm in the absolute best shape of my life right now. I've never looked better, ever. To the point where people are coming up to me at the gym and asking me workout/diet advice. And I got my ass back about 90%-95% of the way. Feelsgoodman.

I've seen some pictures of myself recently...and I'm quite taller than I realized. I now tower over my 5'5" dad, and taller than my (formerly?) 5'8" uncle, and about as tall as my other two uncles who are between 5'8" and 5'9" (based on pictures of us all standing together). It's taken some time...but my confidence with women has skyrocketed. I may not be tall, and may even still be considered short...but I'm at least taller than most women. And that's priceless and worth everything I put on the line for this sh*t. Going from the average height of a woman to taller than most women (even if high heels still pose an issue here) really does make a huge difference. The other night, a 5'8" girl I hadn't seen in a while looked at me and said "did you get taller Yellowspike?" I said "yeah, I tacked on a few inches after college," since I hadn't seen her in like a decade. She then wouldn't stop bugging me to dance with her all night. Too bad I'm not attracted to her...lol

I think I underestimated the recovery aspect of LL. This sh*t changes your life, and takes a lot longer to fully recover from than you can imagine. Yeah, if you go with Guichet and have a weight bearing rod, you'll be walking soon enough. But it took me over a year and a half to be able to run well (my running is just fine now), and I still have to stretch every day to maintain my flexibility, but I think as the years go on, the soft tissue will recover more such that I won't need to do this as much.

I'm thinking of doing what ShyShy did and leave the rods in. My understanding is that when you take the rods out, you can't do weight training on your legs for like 3-4 months. I'm not sure I wanna deal with the hassle of that. So I think I might just have the screws taken out in the hip area (both sides, even though only the left side still bothers me), then have plastic surgery to remove the scars near my ass, and then call it a day. Still have to think about it.

Definitely do not regret doing LL, and definitely happy I did with with Dr. G. You really get what you pay for with him. I sometimes still can't believe I did this. I sometimes still can't believe I literally went through hell, in a foreign country, crippled and on my own. I feel bad for the others with complications. I'm lucky to have (so far) escaped relatively unscathed from those (knock on wood).

I think I'm now done with voluntarily breaking bones.
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« Reply #862 on: August 22, 2016, 06:01:52 PM »

And that's why i said few days ago money is worth it if you will be satisfied with results.

Glad you are doing well considering your mood about LL earlier.
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« Reply #863 on: August 22, 2016, 07:02:54 PM »

Feelsgoodman.

Definitely do not regret doing LL, and definitely happy I did with with Dr. G. You really get what you pay for with him. I sometimes still can't believe I did this. I sometimes still can't believe I literally went through hell, in a foreign country, crippled and on my own.

Excellent summary Yellowspike!  Inspirational to me, esp since I've to do a second surgery Sep 1st :'( :'( :'(

Can't wait to cross the finishing line with a shiny trophy like you!  You truly deserve an 'INSANITY' t-shirt ;D
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Re: Yellowspike - Dr. Guichet, Internal Femurs, Late 2014
« Reply #864 on: August 22, 2016, 07:16:17 PM »

Getting more and more comfortable with my height. I really don't think I'm going to do tibias after all. I trust Dr. Guichet with my life...and he has warned me against tibias several times, even if I were to only do 3-4cm. He says that femurs are typically an indicator of how tibias will go...and my femur consolidation was slow-ish. I think that my slow-ish (especially in my left leg) consolidation had to do with me being a light smoker and also that I restricted my calories so as not to become morbidly obese during LL. I did gain weight...I have pictures of myself from last year...horrible duck ass and a huge belly. Due to my post LL confidence...feeling like being a strong 5'8" is decent enough for a guy...I've invested a lot more in myself in terms of my wardrobe and time at the gym. And I'm in the absolute best shape of my life right now. I've never looked better, ever. To the point where people are coming up to me at the gym and asking me workout/diet advice. And I got my ass back about 90%-95% of the way. Feelsgoodman.

I've seen some pictures of myself recently...and I'm quite taller than I realized. I now tower over my 5'5" dad, and taller than my (formerly?) 5'8" uncle, and about as tall as my other two uncles who are between 5'8" and 5'9" (based on pictures of us all standing together). It's taken some time...but my confidence with women has skyrocketed. I may not be tall, and may even still be considered short...but I'm at least taller than most women. And that's priceless and worth everything I put on the line for this sh*t. Going from the average height of a woman to taller than most women (even if high heels still pose an issue here) really does make a huge difference. The other night, a 5'8" girl I hadn't seen in a while looked at me and said "did you get taller Yellowspike?" I said "yeah, I tacked on a few inches after college," since I hadn't seen her in like a decade. She then wouldn't stop bugging me to dance with her all night. Too bad I'm not attracted to her...lol

I think I underestimated the recovery aspect of LL. This sh*t changes your life, and takes a lot longer to fully recover from than you can imagine. Yeah, if you go with Guichet and have a weight bearing rod, you'll be walking soon enough. But it took me over a year and a half to be able to run well (my running is just fine now), and I still have to stretch every day to maintain my flexibility, but I think as the years go on, the soft tissue will recover more such that I won't need to do this as much.

I'm thinking of doing what ShyShy did and leave the rods in. My understanding is that when you take the rods out, you can't do weight training on your legs for like 3-4 months. I'm not sure I wanna deal with the hassle of that. So I think I might just have the screws taken out in the hip area (both sides, even though only the left side still bothers me), then have plastic surgery to remove the scars near my ass, and then call it a day. Still have to think about it.

Definitely do not regret doing LL, and definitely happy I did with with Dr. G. You really get what you pay for with him. I sometimes still can't believe I did this. I sometimes still can't believe I literally went through hell, in a foreign country, crippled and on my own. I feel bad for the others with complications. I'm lucky to have (so far) escaped relatively unscathed from those (knock on wood).

I think I'm now done with voluntarily breaking bones.

Yellow, that was the most satisfying post I've read in a long time on here. 5"8 is a solid height. It may not be 5"9/10 but it closes the gap hugely between you and the taller fella's.. And you're right. It is hard to find girls taller than 5"8... And even if you do meet a 5"9/10 woman, there won't be much difference in height between the two of you. Not enough to be overly noticeable anyway. My gf is 174, I'm 169 and it isn't hugely noticable to me.... So in terms of women, you can pretty much pick anyone you want without height being a limiting factor. In a group of guys, you'll blend in better, even if you are the shortest of the group (unless they're all 6"2 haha, but don't worry about that s**t)... The next step for you (unless there are more updates to give on your recovery) is to get off this forum and continue to develop your positive mindset, because that's what is truely attractive.

Good work man. You are an inspiration.
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« Reply #865 on: August 22, 2016, 07:35:28 PM »

Dear IML, I am also in Singapore and have strongly intent to do LL, can I contact u personally?
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« Reply #866 on: August 23, 2016, 06:55:49 PM »

Excellent summary Yellowspike!  Inspirational to me, esp since I've to do a second surgery Sep 1st :'( :'( :'(

Can't wait to cross the finishing line with a shiny trophy like you!  You truly deserve an 'INSANITY' t-shirt ;D

lol thanks Unicorn :) I saw your diary and read about your complication. I'm really sorry to hear that. If it makes you feel any better, even though I've technically been complication free, I had slow consolidation and have had my fair share of issues. My right leg acts up from time to time due to a congenital contracture I had before the surgery, and I've had the left screw pain on my hip. No one really escapes from this unscathed.

All I can say is that you're in the best hands possible with Dr. G. He will follow through and make sure you end up ok and get your height goal. He really is the real deal. You will be ok.
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Re: Yellowspike - Dr. Guichet, Internal Femurs, Late 2014
« Reply #867 on: August 23, 2016, 08:14:37 PM »

how many cm's did you do with guichet?. is 8 cm doable. or even 10?
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