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Are short males slowly being phased out of hollywood?
« on: April 02, 2015, 10:29:20 AM »

The Tom Cruises, Depp's and Damon's of yesteryear are slowly being phased out by the 6'0"+ Tatums, Dicaprios, Smiths, etc of today, let alone the surge in popularity of legitimately tall actors like the Hemsworth brothers, The Rock, Affleck, etc. The sex symbols of today are both taller and bigger than their counterparts of a nearly bygone era. Tall males have always been in Hollywood, but most of the ones I remember usually played action movie roles and weren't placed in romance rolls to be swooned over. Now it seems like these roles are being flooded with taller guys, and the dream guy for many girls are one of the Hemsworths. Take the show True Blood for example. Just a cheesy(yet popular) show about vampires meant to tickle a woman's loins and nothing more. Two of the 3 main actors are over 6'5".




 It used to be easy to hide the weak height of popular actors with camera angles, lifts, careful choice of cast, and even cleverly-placed platforms, but with the introduction of legitimately tall actors this it's going to be difficult to continue this charade.

On a semi-related note, now we're even seeing giant athletes propelled into sex symbol status one way or another, like Kris Humphries. I don't remember hearing any giants being considered sex symbols years ago, but now that day is upon us.
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Re: Are short males slowly being phased out of hollywood?
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2015, 11:01:30 AM »

The Tom Cruises, Depp's and Damon's of yesteryear are slowly being phased out by the 6'0"+ Tatums, Dicaprios, Smiths, etc of today, let alone the surge in popularity of legitimately tall actors like the Hemsworth brothers, The Rock, Affleck, etc. The sex symbols of today are both taller and bigger than their counterparts of a nearly bygone era. Tall males have always been in Hollywood, but most of the ones I remember usually played action movie roles and weren't placed in romance rolls to be swooned over. Now it seems like these roles are being flooded with taller guys, and the dream guy for many girls are one of the Hemsworths. Take the show True Blood for example. Just a cheesy(yet popular) show about vampires meant to tickle a woman's loins and nothing more. Two of the 3 main actors are over 6'5".




 It used to be easy to hide the weak height of popular actors with camera angles, lifts, and even cleverly-placed platforms, but with the introduction of legitimately tall actors this it's going to be difficult to continue this charade.

On a semi-related note, now we're even seeing giant athletes propelled into sex symbol status one way or another, like Kris Humphries. I don't remember hearing any giants being considered sex symbols years ago, but now that day is upon us.

There is something going on in Hollywood, I agree. I've noticed that BY FAR the most popular height for male celebrities listen on Bing/Google is 6' (ryan gosling, jake Gyllenhaal, dicaprio, Christian bale, Chris pine are some that come to mind).

6' is the benchmark for height in Hollywood today, and if your under 6', you have a harder chance of being a male sex symbol in Hollywood. There has always been a mystique about the height of "6 foot", but it's now more prevalent than ever.
 
As for 6' 5", there are not many of those guys in Hollywood. Joey Maggs is the only famous one who comes to mind, but there are many actors in the 6' 1" to 6' 4" range.

In terms of women's preferences, most women (probably 70-80%) do not prefer a giant man, but since <1% of men are >6' 5", and there is a significant niche of women for these men, these men are the most desired. 6' 4" to 6' 5" is "Gods among men status" because of their rarity, imposing stature, and huge size. Women will always flock to them. 6' 6" and up is probably too tall

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Re: Are short males slowly being phased out of hollywood?
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2015, 11:30:30 AM »



Why them and not me? all I ever wanted was to be a white alpha male  :'(
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Re: Are short males slowly being phased out of hollywood?
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2015, 11:42:58 AM »

How tall is the guy in the middle?
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Re: Are short males slowly being phased out of hollywood?
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2015, 11:49:36 AM »

How tall is the guy in the middle?

It's Channing Tatum who's 6' 1"
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Re: Are short males slowly being phased out of hollywood?
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2015, 11:50:38 AM »

There is something going on in Hollywood, I agree. I've noticed that BY FAR the most popular height for male celebrities listen on Bing/Google is 6' (ryan gosling, jake Gyllenhaal, dicaprio, Christian bale, Chris pine are some that come to mind).

6' is the benchmark for height in Hollywood today, and if your under 6', you have a harder chance of being a male sex symbol in Hollywood. There has always been a mystique about the height of "6 foot", but it's now more prevalent than ever.
 
As for 6' 5", there are not many of those guys in Hollywood. Joey Maggs is the only famous one who comes to mind, but there are many actors in the 6' 1" to 6' 4" range.

In terms of women's preferences, most women (probably 70-80%) do not prefer a giant man, but since <1% of men are >6' 5", and there is a significant niche of women for these men, these men are the most desired. 6' 4" to 6' 5" is "Gods among men status" because of their rarity, imposing stature, and huge size. Women will always flock to them. 6' 6" and up is probably too tall

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Very concise explanation here. I was just looking up celeb heights to find some of these actors. I haven't watched these vampire type shows, but I thought it was interesting to find out there were a bunch of tall guys in them.


It's just weird how the paradigm has shifted from Pitt's to Hemsworth's.


Could just be me but the Middle guy Tatum looks like he is using some noticeable lifts in that pic too.
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Re: Are short males slowly being phased out of hollywood?
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2015, 11:55:13 AM »

he is 184 Cm according to celebheights which seems to be an accurate guess
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Re: Are short males slowly being phased out of hollywood?
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2015, 12:02:50 PM »



Why them and not me? all I ever wanted was to be a white alpha male  :'(
middle guy is 185
others over 190 cm

When 1.85 cm stands between 19s cm guys just look like a small man
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Re: Are short males slowly being phased out of hollywood?
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2015, 04:34:27 PM »

Skarsgård is 194CM I believe, Mangianello has, in my opinion, prett much the perfect height and build.

There is no phasing in hollywood though, plenty of short actors.
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Re: Are short males slowly being phased out of hollywood?
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2015, 04:44:14 PM »

Hollywood actors are getting taller and most sex symbols are now altleast 185 cm .
185 cm is the new 183 cm I guess, it is the height you have to be to look good.

middle guy is 185
others over 190 cm

When 1.85 cm stands between 19s cm guys just look like a small man

I partially disagree, 185 cm still looks decent next to 190 cm
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Re: Are short males slowly being phased out of hollywood?
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2015, 05:05:31 PM »

I don't believe so. You've still got Pitt, Depp, DiCaprio (just under 6'0), Taylor Lautner (who is a Twilight pretty boy and slightly shorter than 5'9), Daniel Craig (the shortest bond yet), etc.

Taller men are harder to film as well. I don't think there's a phasing out of short male actors. People on this forum are probably just going to notice more if particular celebs are exceptionally tall, imo.
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Re: Are short males slowly being phased out of hollywood?
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2015, 05:07:53 PM »

Hollywood actors are getting taller and most sex symbols are now altleast 185 cm .
185 cm is the new 183 cm I guess, it is the height you have to be to look good.

I partially disagree, 185 cm still looks decent next to 190 cm


Even though your extreme generalization is dead wrong, your general premise is wrong as well. 5' 11" to 6' 2" is considered the ideal height range for physical attractiveness according to women's preferences.

If you were correct that 185 CM is the height you have to be to look good, than 10% of men just make it to the party. Then you have to consider physique, facial aesthetics, and style, and you are left with 2% of men looking good and 98% not looking good.

You are probably using the image of Hollywood good looks as a utopian ideology and aren't referring to "real life", but even in Hollywood, that number starts at 5' 11" (180 CM), or your brad pitts and George clooneys

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« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2015, 05:23:26 PM »

No. Are any of us as old as Daniel Craig, Leo, Pitt or Ryan gosling? In fact in a way you could say that the sex symbols are actually getting shorter by comparing younger actors to the older ones. Some of the most famous early to late 20's heartthrobs (for women) would be Justin Beiber, Dave Franco, Taylor Lautner, Zac Efron and the One Direction group — all are in the 5'7-5'11 range.

But I don't think hollywood really cares too much about height because it doesn't matter in movies, it's easy to make a 5'7" guy look the same height as a 5'11" by having lower camera angles, in fact it makes it easier to have similar heights when filming with women.
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Re: Are short males slowly being phased out of hollywood?
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2015, 05:49:34 PM »

Agree with w1998. I think in Hollywood, as long a guy is 5'7", if he's very good looking, you don't hear too much about his height. Tom Cruise is the exception to this (I think he's like between 5'7-5'8"), because he always dates women a lot taller than him. But we hardly hear about how Usher, Zac Efron, Robert Downey Jr and Mark Wahlberg are short (even if it is mentioned from time to time).

Guys that are under 5'6" like Daniel Radcliffe, Josh Hutcherson, Kevin Hart, the guy from Hawaii Five-0 (and more recently, Dave Franco)...you almost always hear about how short they are.
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« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2015, 06:22:29 PM »

No. Are any of us as old as Daniel Craig, Leo, Pitt or Ryan gosling? In fact in a way you could say that the sex symbols are actually getting shorter by comparing younger actors to the older ones. Some of the most famous early to late 20's heartthrobs (for women) would be Justin Beiber, Dave Franco, Taylor Lautner, Zac Efron and the One Direction group — all are in the 5'7-5'11 range.

But I don't think hollywood really cares too much about height because it doesn't matter in movies, it's easy to make a 5'7" guy look the same height as a 5'11" by having lower camera angles, in fact it makes it easier to have similar heights when filming with women.

I hate to break it to you, but the guys you mentioned are sex symbols for young girls, not older girls and women
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Re: Are short males slowly being phased out of hollywood?
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2015, 01:15:09 AM »

Absolutely, without question. The new guard of Hollywood studs- Channing Tatum, the Hemsworths, Bradley Cooper, Henry Cavill, Skarsgard, etc are all 6'+ males, and they are quickly replacing the older generation. I don't think we will be seeing any more Brad Pitts or Tom Cruises around anymore (in terms of height), not as big protagonists in blockbuster movies with extreme levels of fame like Pitt and Cruise had anyway. The age of short actors is over. Today's action packed blockbusters are absolutely filled with tall, all-american high testosterone looking, square jawed males and their physical forms.

If you ask socially conscious young women who pay attention to celebrities and are aware of the latest trends (so 85+% of them) who the hottest actors are, they'll tell you Hemsworth, Decaprio, Channing Tatum, etc. No old little men past their primes who coping short males use as examples of desirable sex symbols, like Pitt or Cruise.
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« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2015, 01:23:50 AM »

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Re: Are short males slowly being phased out of hollywood?
« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2015, 03:52:41 AM »

There are always roles for short and tall actors. So I don't believe that short males are being phased out. Hollywood will require them in later movies. Just look at the movie, Lord of the Ring, what tall men can play the role of the hobbit? lol

But if we're just talking about sex symbol, I agree that height is attraction. And coming from a culture that idolize football and basketball stars, I wouldn't be surprised even more.

Movies is after-all a business and 50% of the movie-goers are women (I think this figure is higher b/c men are cheap). Women want to go see a movie that would workout their fantasy. Asking women what they want to see is like asking what is their sexual preference. A movie that comes to mind that is so crappy and every critic think it's suck but still become a blockbuster hit is 50 Shades of Grey. An average girl who got on with a tall, handsome, intellectual, billionaire, under 27 who speaks French and does charity work and who send her sexual texting constantly. I only know this movie because the book version is the best seller on amazon - it's like pornographic for female.

An equivalent movie for men is Austin Power, a short, unattractive but comic male who is the sex symbol and gets on with beautiful women and ends up saving the world. But I haven't seen this type of movie for a long time so maybe it's true that short male is being faze out of the sexual arena (jk)

In terms of hollywood trend, I'm really far behind, and it's worst that I only prefer horror genre. The only actor up there that I recognize is Chris Hemprey and that's only because Jay Leno made fun about it in the late night show.
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Re: Are short males slowly being phased out of hollywood?
« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2015, 07:48:08 PM »

Many of the Hollywood role models and sex symbols decades ago were also much taller than average.

As an example:

Clark Gable - 6'1
Burt Lancaster - 6'1
Cary Grant - 6'1.5
Sean Connery - 6'2
Victor Mature - 6'2.5
Johnny Weissmuller - 6'3
Gregory Peck - 6'3
Gary Cooper - 6'3
Charlton Heston - 6'3
Christopher Reeve - 6'4
Clint Eastwood - 6'4
John Wayne - 6'4

There are probably more short males getting leading roles now than there were before.
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« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2015, 08:26:10 PM »

Fun fact: naturally 6'4 (194CM) John Wayne often wore 3-4 inch shoe lifts!

He was already taller than over 99% of men. Who could he possibly have been trying to be taller than? Lol.

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« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2015, 08:36:50 PM »

Maybe he had "tall-man syndrome"?
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« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2015, 10:29:08 PM »

Many of the Hollywood role models and sex symbols decades ago were also much taller than average.

As an example:

Clark Gable - 6'1
Burt Lancaster - 6'1
Cary Grant - 6'1.5
Sean Connery - 6'2
Victor Mature - 6'2.5
Johnny Weissmuller - 6'3
Gregory Peck - 6'3
Gary Cooper - 6'3
Charlton Heston - 6'3
Christopher Reeve - 6'4
Clint Eastwood - 6'4
John Wayne - 6'4

There are probably more short males getting leading roles now than there were before.

I think you also have to understand that some of it had to do with filming.

You want the leading man to be one of the taller or the tallest people in the shot so that he stands out. It makes filming a lot easier if the lead actor is tall, so that they don't have to worry about the heights of the other actors, and don't have to use weird camera angles to make the lead actor appear taller.
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« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2021, 09:33:51 PM »

There is something going on in Hollywood, I agree. I've noticed that BY FAR the most popular height for male celebrities listen on Bing/Google is 6' (ryan gosling, jake Gyllenhaal, dicaprio, Christian bale, Chris pine are some that come to mind).

6' is the benchmark for height in Hollywood today, and if your under 6', you have a harder chance of being a male sxx symbol in Hollywood. There has always been a mystique about the height of "6 foot", but it's now more prevalent than ever.
 
As for 6' 5", there are not many of those guys in Hollywood. Joey Maggs is the only famous one who comes to mind, but there are many actors in the 6' 1" to 6' 4" range.

In terms of women's preferences, most women (probably 70-80%) do not prefer a giant man, but since <1% of men are >6' 5", and there is a significant niche of women for these men, these men are the most desired. 6' 4" to 6' 5" is "Gods among men status" because of their rarity, imposing stature, and huge size. Women will always flock to them. 6' 6" and up is probably too tall

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« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2021, 09:36:16 PM »



Why them and not me? all I ever wanted was to be a white alpha male  :'(

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« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2021, 09:37:10 PM »

It's Channing Tatum who's 6' 1"
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« Reply #25 on: April 16, 2021, 09:41:32 PM »

And coincidentally Hollywood Movies and Series are getting  tier from year to year... basically remake after remake. Lot's of Marvel- and DC-Comics-Crap for not grown up men.
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« Reply #26 on: April 16, 2021, 09:44:31 PM »


Even though your extreme generalization is dead wrong, your general premise is wrong as well. 5' 11" to 6' 2" is considered the ideal height range for physical attractiveness according to women's preferences.

If you were correct that 185 CM is the height you have to be to look good, than 10% of men just make it to the party. Then you have to consider physique, facial aesthetics, and style, and you are left with 2% of men looking good and 98% not looking good.

You are probably using the image of Hollywood good looks as a utopian ideology and aren't referring to "real life", but even in Hollywood, that number starts at 5' 11" (180 CM), or your brad pitts and George clooneys

According to OKCupid stats this is probably true. Only 20% of men are considered attractive, whereas men assess women according to a symmetrical bell-shaped curve...
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« Reply #27 on: April 16, 2021, 09:57:45 PM »

And coincidentally Hollywood Movies and Series are getting  tier from year to year... basically remake after remake. Lot's of Marvel- and DC-Comics-Crap for not grown up men.

Yep.  They've got nothing to market the movies with except "Look!  The star is tall and handsome!  Buy a ticket!".
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« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2021, 12:17:50 PM »

Agree with w1998. I think in Hollywood, as long a guy is 5'7", if he's very good looking, you don't hear too much about his height. Tom Cruise is the exception to this (I think he's like between 5'7-5'8"), because he always dates women a lot taller than him. But we hardly hear about how Usher, Zac Efron, Robert Downey Jr and Mark Wahlberg are short (even if it is mentioned from time to time).

Guys that are under 5'6" like Daniel Radcliffe, Josh Hutcherson, Kevin Hart, the guy from Hawaii Five-0 (and more recently, Dave Franco)...you almost always hear about how short they are.
Radcliffe is a poor soul. He has a nice looking face, but height has ruined his career...
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« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2021, 03:33:51 PM »

The Tom Cruises, Depp's and Damon's of yesteryear are slowly being phased out by the 6'0"+ Tatums, Dicaprios, Smiths, etc of today, let alone the surge in popularity of legitimately tall actors like the Hemsworth brothers, The Rock, Affleck, etc. The sxx symbols of today are both taller and bigger than their counterparts of a nearly bygone era. Tall males have always been in Hollywood, but most of the ones I remember usually played action movie roles and weren't placed in romance rolls to be swooned over. Now it seems like these roles are being flooded with taller guys, and the dream guy for many girls are one of the Hemsworths. Take the show True Blood for example. Just a cheesy(yet popular) show about vampires meant to tickle a woman's loins and nothing more. Two of the 3 main actors are over 6'5".




 It used to be easy to hide the weak height of popular actors with camera angles, lifts, careful choice of cast, and even cleverly-placed platforms, but with the introduction of legitimately tall actors this it's going to be difficult to continue this charade.

On a semi-related note, now we're even seeing giant athletes propelled into sxx symbol status one way or another, like Kris Humphries. I don't remember hearing any giants being considered sxx symbols years ago, but now that day is upon us.

Movies are getting  ter and  ter.
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« Reply #30 on: April 17, 2021, 04:08:49 PM »

Yep.  They've got nothing to market the movies with except "Look!  The star is tall and handsome!  Buy a ticket!".
Exactly! And CGI... but CGI overflow gets annoying with time.
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