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[KrP1]

Hi Kilo

I am following your investigation with great interest and like you am eager to get LL soon but with minimal risk and lowest cost possible.  I am actively discussing with China and Syria right now with a view to flying to both countries to investigate in July/August.  Had disregarded india until I started reading your views.  I want to have my femurs lengthened  (already very short compared to people with shorter torso by 5-7 centre metres).  Would like LON or LTN and want to live in house/apartment during lengthening.

Who knows we might be in India together ?

Cheers

Liam

Minimal Risk and you think in syria?

[KiloKAHN]

hi kilokhan. i read your diary and found that you stayed in maharana hotel. did they ask u for any proof of visit or anything like thiat for long stay? if i take a hotel i do not want to tell the hotel people i want to do surgery to increase my height   

They did want an address when I checked in. I gave them the address of Mangal Anand Hospital and told them I was having surgery, but I never said it was for height increase. For all they knew I was just correcting a bone issue.

[alps]

Hey man. How's it going?

[KiloKAHN]

The front of my ankles still feel a bit knotted from the fasciotomy, but other than that I'm fine. Not much else to report although I hope to have a running video out at some point.

[Desperate4inches]

Hi kilo. I new here I didn't understand it clearly but is the recent correction surgery the fault of limb lengthening?

[KiloKAHN]

Hi kilo. I new here I didn't understand it clearly but is the recent correction surgery the fault of limb lengthening?

I don't think there have been any studies focused on leg lengthening's effect on risk for chronic exertional compartment syndrome, but both my trauma surgeon who removed my frames and the foot and ankle specialist who performed the fasciotomy told me that in theory leg lengthening puts you more at risk for developing CECS. They both think it's because the limb is made longer than it was supposed to be naturally and therefore the muscles have to work harder to move it than before, creating increased pressure in the compartments. The user Medium Drink of Water developed CECS after lengthening his tibiae 3 inches in Beijing, so I wouldn't be surprised if it's a relatively common CLL side-effect that for some reason doesn't get mentioned a whole lot.

[Iceman_07]

Kilo.

I had shortering in leg and had a surgery to increase by 5cms. But now when I have increased around 4. I see a lot of pain and due to which I am unable to do my excersises.
Which resulted in poor knee flextion dropping from around 50° to 10-15°.
Did you face any such issue and how did you come across the same? I am worried because it pains alot due to the pins

[KiloKAHN]

On the days where I had unbearable pain for a prolonged period I was usually advised to decrease the distraction rate. Have you talked to your surgeon about the pain you have?

Kilo.

I had shortering in leg and had a surgery to increase by 5cms. But now when I have increased around 4. I see a lot of pain and due to which I am unable to do my excersises.
Which resulted in poor knee flextion dropping from around 50° to 10-15°.
Did you face any such issue and how did you come across the same? I am worried because it pains alot due to the pins

[Iceman_07]

Yep. Had a word with my doctor. He told me to apply ice packs and massage.
But at times pins pain alot.
When I bend my knee by 5° the pain starts. Seems the knee has stiffness now.

[GeTs]

Hey, how's going I remember when you still were during lengthening phase and were ordering pizza and such 

Btw I see you did 6cm, did you do .3mm more or something like that to avoid loss ? Or you just stopped at 6 and didn't lose anything

[myloginacct]

Do you think it was worth it to get your LL done, after all this time?

[myloginacct]

By the way, I've read the main bulk of your diary now and it seems it was obviously worth it for you. Sorry about making that previous question without having had read enough. I had no idea CLL was a thing, and I made some hasty, stupid posts in diaries in my initial period after registering here.

[fokid]

how are you doing OP? have you got a running video? :-)

[KiloKAHN]

Been meaning to do a running video but keep getting side tracked. I'll try and get one made soon.

[Cr7]

Hello kilokahn
I finished reading your diary a few days ago. Details you provided in your diary is extremely helpful. Do you think the compartment syndrome caused was due to surgery? I researched a bit about compartment syndrome and it seems that one can lose the affected limb because of it. How are you now? Have you fully recovered i.e athletic abilities and do you feel any after effects of the surgery. I intend to get this surgery done. Unsure of the doctor  parihar vs catagani ( external tibias). Money is not an issue as of now only limited because of time constraints. Could u throw some light on how much time realistically it would take to return to work.
About me 
Ethnicity- Indian 
Sex- male
Age- 28
Current height- 170.5 cm
Desired height- 175 after first surgery
Ideal would be to reach 180

[Johnson1111]

Well I would hope you'd be able to run 4 years post op.

[RaaX]

@kiloKAHN

Did you lose any CM of height overtime?

[totallyred]

Anyone reading this diary or this forum,be aware kilo and penguin are paid advertisers of Parihar. Be aware be cautious, be informed while taking any major decision. Read how they have intentionally made their signatures(the msg at the end) to promote their doctors. Don't be naive. Who on the earth has time to waste to answer queries years after their surgeries. Total non-sense and time waster paid advertisements are what these posts are. Stop fooling yourself.

[IwannaBeTaller]

Why would someone not have time to answer questions about LL after his surgery? Does having LL mean you will never have free time ever again?

[totallyred]

I feel 100% normal when walking and people I've asked who know what I did don't think my walking looks weird at all. Here's a quick vid of what it looks like. Not really good for seeing my proportions though because I fished out my old pants from when I was a lot heavier and they're way too big for me now.

Another fake video fake person with no CLL done. Folks this is all a big trap to fool naive people unhappy with f their heights. Be brave. Don't be foolish to fall in these laid traps.

[totallyred]

Why would someone not have time to answer questions about LL after his surgery? Does having LL mean you will never have free time ever again?

Yes not 3 years after I had the surgery. I have other things to do.

[th]

totally red - i think now you have lost it...

[KiloKAHN]

Another fake video fake person with no CLL done. Folks this is all a big trap to fool naive people unhappy with f their heights. Be brave. Don't be foolish to fall in these laid traps.

You must be that same user who accused me of being a fake a while back. I'll just direct you back to this post I made on the subject:
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=634.msg60909#msg60909

[totallyred]

You must be that same user who accused me of being a fake a while back. I'll just direct you back to this post I made on the subject:
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=634.msg60909#msg60909

-These emails and the letter can easily be forged.
-Also, in the video, what exactly are you proving, Is not it a random person walking up and down, How do you prove that the person has gone through ilizarov?
-If you still believe you are a person full of conscience, then it is your supreme moral responsibility to clear the air by giving some solid proof that you are really a person who has gone through CLL or else accept the post to be fake. Believe in the law of Karma, by misguiding/harming thousands of innocent people, no one can escape unharmed.

[KiloKAHN]

-These emails and the letter can easily be forged.
-Also, in the video, what exactly are you proving, Is not it a random person walking up and down, How do you prove that the person has gone through ilizarov?
-If you still believe you are a person full of conscience, then it is your supreme moral responsibility to clear the air by giving some solid proof that you are really a person who has gone through CLL or else accept the post to be fake. Believe in the law of Karma, by misguiding/harming thousands of innocent people, no one can escape unharmed.

Ah yes, the photos, hospital seal, e-mails, all forged  Same with the videos where I put fake Ilizarov frames on my legs and walked around slowly for lols

If you believed in the law of karma, you wouldn't be trying to convince people that a legitimate CLL patient is a fake and try to stir up controversy. It's unoriginal trolling dude, someone else did it before you.

I don't care if someone decides to go to Dr Parihar or not. He has his own qualifications as to who he accepts as a patient anyways and has denied people the procedure before. If you don't like the way he operates, go to someone else. Simple?

[totallyred]

Ah yes, the photos, hospital seal, e-mails, all forged  Same with the videos where I put fake Ilizarov frames on my legs and walked around slowly for lols

If you believed in the law of karma, you wouldn't be trying to convince people that a legitimate CLL patient is a fake and try to stir up controversy. It's unoriginal trolling dude, someone else did it before you.

I don't care if someone decides to go to Dr Parihar or not. He has his own qualifications as to who he accepts as a patient anyways and has denied people the procedure before. If you don't like the way he operates, go to someone else. Simple?

Dude, to be honest, I can't comment on the veracity of your diary neither positive nor negative. In fact, your diary was first thing, which had ignited spark to bring an end to my plight. Then there was Penguin's diary, which is no doubt dubious, read it once if you have not already. You supporting him and then both supporting a certain dr. would have led anyone to doubt veracity of your diary as well. I can give you benefit of doubt, just a request would it be possible for you to put a photo of you before and after surgery, standing at the same place and same posture. I did't want to sound offensive or harsh, and I apologize if I have unintentionally done it. Thanks for the reply.

[AR]

I've just read this amazing diary - and i hope you the best kilokhan. i think your doctor is a very good surgeon.
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I have just these comments

1 - Using Hexapods for correction is one of the best in your diary. i think your doctor did a great job correcting the misalignment of your tibia from side view but from front view i have no information - because you need to have a long film x ray or standing x ray so he can draw the perfect mechanical axis and correct your tibia.

2 - LATN or LON ensures that the bone is completely straight but to make it clear the bone shaft is straight for a simple reason it's hard to insert a nail in non straight bone. so people who insert nails tend to have deformities (Not perfectly aligned mechanical axis).

3 - when lengthening for example the lower leg the bone tend to bend to the direction with lower resist. for example you are lengthening your tibia if you look at the x ray from the side your bone will bend to the opposite direction of the calf muscle. and this means that your lengthening doesn't mean at all that the muscle is stretched the same distance. and the faster the lengthening the more misalignment. so imagine that your doing 1.5 mm per day the muscle can for example only grow less than 1mm your bone have the ability to bend in a free resistance direction so it will go in this direction.

4 - so when doing correction you may feel a very good tension in your muscles - now it's time to correct the bent bone by the external fixation manipulation so the muscle will be stretched - if you are for example ignoring the training and you muscles are tight you will lose a lot of flexibility during correction.

5 - straight bone shaft doesn't mean at all perfect mechanical axis. so good doctors tends to correct for the mechanical axis and not for the straight bone shaft. i may make your bone straight but you will have x - legs or bow legs. that's why it's ok that your tibia is curved or bend and this doesn't mean a bad thing at all. and that's why it's really hard job to correct the front view without x ray of the patient being standing with straight legs so the doctor can draw the mechanical axis and do the correction. and this type of frame manipulation is done only by hexapods or TFS. other than that is not accurate. so guess what most of the patients of the external fixators don't have perfect mechanical axis. and this is why the external methods are still exist - so if you are ready to accept the scars - and lengthening a small amount ( not exciding 5 cms in tibia ) so you will be of the frame very quick . go for externals but make sure to chose a doctor who do TSF or have the hexapods correction otherwise you will end with deformity

Again good luck in your life KILOKHAN and enjoy your new height

[Sanity]

I wanna know if doing tibias with external fixators and using ilazarov frames is ok? what will be the pros and cons?

[raku]

hi dear friend, congratulation for your 6cm get! Could I ask you about your current condition? Do You feel good without pain and could you run?
Kind regards

[KiloKAHN]

hi dear friend, congratulation for your 6cm get! Could I ask you about your current condition? Do You feel good without pain and could you run?
Kind regards

Physically, the lasting changes are the numbing sensation in my legs when sitting certain angles, and my scars are weaker than the surrounding skin so they tend to bleed more easily when scratched. Also my running stamina isn't quite to where I used to be, but I've never been much of a runner anyways.

Psychologically, I feel much better about myself and am currently in a relationship with a woman who's 6'0 tall. I never would have bothered approaching her pre-CLL and that's for certain.

[Adward]

Physically, the lasting changes are the numbing sensation in my legs when sitting certain angles, and my scars are weaker than the surrounding skin so they tend to bleed more easily when scratched. Also my running stamina isn't quite to where I used to be, but I've never been much of a runner anyways.

Psychologically, I feel much better about myself and am currently in a relationship with a woman who's 6'0 tall. I never would have bothered approaching her pre-CLL and that's for certain.

Hi Kilokahn, if you don't mind could you please share your accurate age at the time of starting your LL journey. It would be helpful for us to learn from your case regarding ant. compartment syndrome.