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PRECICE UNYTE Cobalt Chrome (PRECICE v3.0)
« on: August 20, 2017, 03:40:52 PM »

The PRECICE UNYTE CoCr nail is not available for cosmetic lengthening patients. That will likely happen in 2018. Date unknown. This current version is only for medically necessary treatment.

For people who are unaware, an internal lengthening nail made of cobalt chrome would essentially allow all cosmetic lengthening patients to be fully weight bearing, with crutches, from day one of surgery. Combining all the advantages of the PRECICE nail over its current competitors, with the ability to move unrestricted throughout the lengthening and consolidation phases.

Click on the following links for more detailed information:

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/cdrh_docs/pdf16/K162927.pdf

http://www.innosurge.com/sites/default/files/uploads/product-documents/Precice%20Unyte%20Sales%20Sheet%20%26%20implant%20sizing%20card_1.pdf

http://www.innosurge.com/sites/default/files/uploads/product-documents/PRECICE%20UNYTE%20Humeral%20Nail%20Implant%20Offering%20Guide.pdf


Dr. Fragomen is a colleague of Dr. Rozbruch at HSS in New York.
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Re: PRECICE UNYTE Cobalt Chrome (PRECICE v3.0)
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2017, 07:43:35 PM »

Seems more like a non union nail. The doc in the webinar said that weight bearing for distraction is the same as Precice 2 and then he adds that for non union the nail is full weight bearing.
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Re: PRECICE UNYTE Cobalt Chrome (PRECICE v3.0)
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2017, 10:07:21 AM »

1. Does anybody know, or is there anyone who could take an educated guess as to how much of a price increase the new Precice will have?

2. Realistically speaking, since its a weightbearing nail, how much of a difference would it make to the time taken to recovery? I was estimating a 6-7 recovery period as I'm doing around 5-6 cms. How much time will I save if I do the surgery with the new Precice?

3. I'm asking this as my funds are going to be ready, and if the new nail doesn't make a material difference, I would rather just order the nails before the new ones are released in order to save on the costs (because I'm reasonably sure they will be at least SOME price increase)
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Re: PRECICE UNYTE Cobalt Chrome (PRECICE v3.0)
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2017, 09:36:39 PM »

The PRECICE UNYTE CoCr nail is not available for cosmetic lengthening patients. That will likely happen in 2018. Date unknown. This current version is only for medically necessary treatment.

For people who are unaware, an internal lengthening nail made of cobalt chrome would essentially allow all cosmetic lengthening patients to be fully weight bearing, with crutches, from day one of surgery. Combining all the advantages of the PRECICE nail over its current competitors, with the ability to move unrestricted throughout the lengthening and consolidation phases.

Click on the following links for more detailed information:

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/cdrh_docs/pdf16/K162927.pdf

http://www.innosurge.com/sites/default/files/uploads/product-documents/Precice%20Unyte%20Sales%20Sheet%20%26%20implant%20sizing%20card_1.pdf

http://www.innosurge.com/sites/default/files/uploads/product-documents/PRECICE%20UNYTE%20Humeral%20Nail%20Implant%20Offering%20Guide.pdf


Dr. Fragomen is a colleague of Dr. Rozbruch at HSS in New York.

Excellent, thanks a lot. Will this nail allow me to study (full time) and attend classes on regular basis while lengthening? How about work? will it allow people  to go to office and work?  With crutches of course.
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Re: PRECICE UNYTE Cobalt Chrome (PRECICE v3.0)
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2017, 09:27:48 AM »

Excellent, thanks a lot. Will this nail allow me to study (full time) and attend classes on regular basis while lengthening? How about work? will it allow people  to go to office and work?  With crutches of course.

Why don't you read a Guichet or Betz diary? Those nails are full weight bearing.

Think about the situation. You have broken legs, possibly in pain, and have to stretch your legs by 1mm everyday.

Going to class? Your gait will look so ugly, this will make you want to stay home. If you're crazy enough to go on campus, imagine the risk of someone bumping into you, causing you to fall and shattering your leg into multiple pieces because of the internal rod.
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Re: PRECICE UNYTE Cobalt Chrome (PRECICE v3.0)
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2017, 12:26:14 PM »

Why don't you read a Guichet or Betz diary? Those nails are full weight bearing.

Think about the situation. You have broken legs, possibly in pain, and have to stretch your legs by 1mm everyday.

Going to class? Your gait will look so ugly, this will make you want to stay home. If you're crazy enough to go on campus, imagine the risk of someone bumping into you, causing you to fall and shattering your leg into multiple pieces because of the internal rod.
Betz, Guichet and every other albizzia nail makes lengthening very painful, having an full weight precise nail will truly change the LL after surgery process.

1mm per day will be much better tolerated from the body if you walk everyday, even with crutches, and you cam go to office work from at max 2 weeks after surgery.
This is a revolution and I really look forward to this new nail to do my second LL with that because leaving 4-5 months from my work to do LL with precise 2 means that I should look for another job and I really don't want that.

But I hope that it will be used for cosmetic surgeries too. I can't find any reason why a so capable and modern nail won't be used for cosmetic purposes, as it wil make LL much more easier and safe compared to non weight bearing nails and the albizzia crap.
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Re: PRECICE UNYTE Cobalt Chrome (PRECICE v3.0)
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2017, 03:55:25 PM »

Betz, Guichet and every other albizzia nail makes lengthening very painful, having an full weight precise nail will truly change the LL after surgery process.

1mm per day will be much better tolerated from the body if you walk everyday, even with crutches, and you cam go to office work from at max 2 weeks after surgery.
This is a revolution and I really look forward to this new nail to do my second LL with that because leaving 4-5 months from my work to do LL with precise 2 means that I should look for another job and I really don't want that.

But I hope that it will be used for cosmetic surgeries too. I can't find any reason why a so capable and modern nail won't be used for cosmetic purposes, as it wil make LL much more easier and safe compared to non weight bearing nails and the albizzia crap.

The best therapy is walking everyday bearing weight, thus you move ankle, knee, hips and do not forget how to walk.
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Re: STRYDE (PRECICE v3.0)
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2018, 04:08:31 PM »

STRYDE

The cosmetic lengthening version of this new Cobalt Chrome nail by NuVasive will be marketed as the STRYDE. Release date will be in approximately 6 months. A true game changer in cosmetic lengthening. Full weight bearing with crutches from day one, complete freedom of mobility, possible continuation of employment with minimal downtime (office work), millimeter by millimeter accuracy with screen read out on ERC, reverse function to prevent runaway nail or treat complications.   
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Re: STRYDE (PRECICE v3.0)
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2018, 05:39:35 PM »

STRYDE

The cosmetic lengthening version of this new Cobalt Chrome nail by NuVasive will be marketed as the STRYDE. Release date will be in approximately 6 months. A true game changer in cosmetic lengthening. Full weight bearing with crutches from day one, complete freedom of mobility, possible continuation of employment with minimal downtime (office work), millimeter by millimeter accuracy with screen read out on ERC, reverse function to prevent runaway nail or treat complications.

Very excited for this especially with the ability to continue working, however if it's full weight bearing how come crutches are still required?  I don't know if I want to be in crutches at work for 4+ months. 
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Re: STRYDE (PRECICE v3.0)
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2018, 06:09:23 PM »

STRYDE

The cosmetic lengthening version of this new Cobalt Chrome nail by NuVasive will be marketed as the STRYDE. Release date will be in approximately 6 months. A true game changer in cosmetic lengthening. Full weight bearing with crutches from day one, complete freedom of mobility, possible continuation of employment with minimal downtime (office work), millimeter by millimeter accuracy with screen read out on ERC, reverse function to prevent runaway nail or treat complications.
This will be really gamechanging. I look forward to this hitech nail as it will be the one I'll use for my LL if prices are not much more than precise 2.

Thanx for the info Stadiometer!!
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Re: STRYDE (PRECICE v3.0)
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2018, 06:54:19 PM »

Very excited for this especially with the ability to continue working, however if it's full weight bearing how come crutches are still required?  I don't know if I want to be in crutches at work for 4+ months.

Crutches will be required for safety precautions, assist with balance, help prevent slipping, other various reasons. Don't forget that you will be walking with two broken legs, safety is the highest priority. For most people spending 3-4 months on crutches at the office is better than losing 3-4 months of income.

This will be really gamechanging. I look forward to this hitech nail as it will be the one I'll use for my LL if prices are not much more than precise 2.

Thanx for the info Stadiometer!!

Thank you for the information! Internal lengthening with full weight bearing nail is long-awaited dream of all LLers...

You're welcome! Prices have not been decided, but it seems that more and more affordable options for PRECICE/STRYDE specialists are coming along every year. Case in point is Dr. Dimitrios Giotikas in Athens, Greece. That makes close to half a dozen doctors who now offer this surgery with PRECICE at or below $50,000 U.S. Dollars. That bodes well for keeping prices more affordable when the STRYDE is eventually released.
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Re: STRYDE (PRECICE v3.0)
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2018, 07:00:43 PM »

STRYDE

The cosmetic lengthening version of this new Cobalt Chrome nail by NuVasive will be marketed as the STRYDE. Release date will be in approximately 6 months. A true game changer in cosmetic lengthening. Full weight bearing with crutches from day one, complete freedom of mobility, possible continuation of employment with minimal downtime (office work), millimeter by millimeter accuracy with screen read out on ERC, reverse function to prevent runaway nail or treat complications.

Thank you for the information! Internal lengthening with full weight bearing nail is long-awaited dream of all LLers... I'm doing 5-6cm on tibia externally this year and then waiting for this nail, which I think is the best strategy.
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Re: PRECICE UNYTE Cobalt Chrome (PRECICE v3.0)
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2018, 11:11:09 PM »

STRYDE

The cosmetic lengthening version of this new Cobalt Chrome nail by NuVasive will be marketed as the STRYDE. Release date will be in approximately 6 months. A true game changer in cosmetic lengthening. Full weight bearing with crutches from day one, complete freedom of mobility, possible continuation of employment with minimal downtime (office work), millimeter by millimeter accuracy with screen read out on ERC, reverse function to prevent runaway nail or treat complications.   

Hey Stadiometers, where can I find more information about Stryde? Can't seem to find anything.
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Re: PRECICE UNYTE Cobalt Chrome (PRECICE v3.0)
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2018, 11:48:12 AM »

I doubt it can be weightbearing for lengthening, as the weak part is not the nail itself, but the screws. When the screws support all your weight, bone is remodeled around the screws and the eventually get loose.
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Re: PRECICE UNYTE Cobalt Chrome (PRECICE v3.0)
« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2018, 01:15:14 PM »

I doubt it can be weightbearing for lengthening, as the weak part is not the nail itself, but the screws. When the screws support all your weight, bone is remodeled around the screws and the eventually get loose.
You have a point.
But guichetnail, betznail and albizzia generally are full weightbearing so I can't understand why that "stryder" can't be.
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STRYDE Cobalt Chrome (PRECICE v3.0)
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2018, 06:06:43 PM »

I doubt it can be weightbearing for lengthening, as the weak part is not the nail itself, but the screws. When the screws support all your weight, bone is remodeled around the screws and the eventually get loose.

Your statement is incorrect. If you consult with any of the surgeons assisting with the research and development of the STRYDE they will educated you further.
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STRYDE Cobalt Chrome (PRECICE v3.0)
« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2018, 06:15:18 PM »

Hey Stadiometers, where can I find more information about Stryde? Can't seem to find anything.

You can contact NuVasive who will be manufacturing and marketing the STRYDE, you can contact the surgeons who are assisting with the research and development. There are many entities who have been aware of this nail for sometime now. 
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Re: STRYDE Cobalt Chrome (PRECICE v3.0)
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2018, 07:10:01 PM »

You can contact NuVasive who will be manufacturing and marketing the STRYDE, you can contact the surgeons who are assisting with the research and development. There are many entities who have been aware of this nail for sometime now.
I want to ask if you and your other profile are working for Nuvasive ?
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Re: PRECICE UNYTE Cobalt Chrome (PRECICE v3.0)
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2018, 07:12:42 PM »

You can contact NuVasive who will be manufacturing and marketing the STRYDE, you can contact the surgeons who are assisting with the research and development. There are many entities who have been aware of this nail for sometime now. 

Gotcha. I did manage to find one Stryde reference on Glassdoor, unfortunately the post has been deleted. This is a screenshot of the cached page.
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Re: STRYDE Cobalt Chrome (PRECICE v3.0)
« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2018, 08:40:02 PM »

I want to ask if you and your other profile are working for Nuvasive ?

No, i've been on this forum since the very beginning and was on the old forum before it turned into a scam. I can't log in with my other profile so I created a replica to maintain consistency.
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« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2018, 08:45:15 PM »

Gotcha. I did manage to find one Stryde reference on Glassdoor, unfortunately the post has been deleted. This is a screenshot of the cached page.

Good work Android. I'd expect there to be a lot more information coming out shortly as it gets closer to the release date.

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Re: STRYDE Cobalt Chrome (PRECICE v3.0)
« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2018, 08:49:29 PM »

No, i've been on this forum since the very beginning and was on the old forum before it turned into a scam. I can't log in with my other profile so I created a replica to maintain consistency.
Fine.I was asking because I was wondering how were you getting so accurate information about a nail that is still in development
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« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2018, 08:57:52 PM »

Fine.I was asking because I was wondering how were you getting so accurate information about a nail that is still in development

The same way anyone else can. By contacting the parties involved.
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Re: PRECICE UNYTE Cobalt Chrome (PRECICE v3.0)
« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2018, 08:59:04 PM »

Little beside the point guys, but how much weight does the bone gain for each cm? Literally couldn't find info on this anywhere.
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Re: STRYDE Cobalt Chrome (PRECICE v3.0)
« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2018, 09:00:50 PM »

but how much weight does the bone gain for each cm?

No idea what your question is seeking to answer?
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Re: PRECICE UNYTE Cobalt Chrome (PRECICE v3.0)
« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2018, 10:18:36 PM »

I'm not talking about weight loss or weight gain due to the surgery but surely after you lengthened X amount of cm your weight will increase, no? The longer bones surely have some weight added to them, I'm wondering how much.
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Re: PRECICE UNYTE Cobalt Chrome (PRECICE v3.0)
« Reply #27 on: January 09, 2018, 06:47:32 PM »

Thank for the updates, Stadiometer.

I've been waiting for something like this for a long time. Something that would allow me to go back to the office in two weeks max would be amazing.

Do you know if the new nail will cause any improvement in the lenghtening process orit's just that it is full weight bearing?
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« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2018, 10:22:23 PM »

Thank for the updates, Stadiometer.

I've been waiting for something like this for a long time. Something that would allow me to go back to the office in two weeks max would be amazing.

Do you know if the new nail will cause any improvement in the lenghtening process orit's just that it is full weight bearing?

You're welcome! The expectation is that being able to legitimately weight bear will make the physical therapy sessions smoother, soft tissue soreness and joint stiffness will be reduced, maintaining employment during the lengthening will reduce the overall cost by removing the loss of income factor.

In addition to all of the above expected improvements, the psychological benefit that comes with living a more normal life during lengthening can not be over stated. If you choose one of the top surgeons, who has a proven track record of your health's best interest in mind, then limb lengthening is almost entirely mental. Replace being mostly confined to a couch or bed with freedom of mobility, and you make an order of magnitude improvement to the process.
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« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2018, 11:40:21 PM »

Crutches will be required for safety precautions, assist with balance, help prevent slipping, other various reasons. Don't forget that you will be walking with two broken legs, safety is the highest priority. For most people spending 3-4 months on crutches at the office is better than losing 3-4 months of income.

You're welcome! Prices have not been decided, but it seems that more and more affordable options for PRECICE/STRYDE specialists are coming along every year. Case in point is Dr. Dimitrios Giotikas in Athens, Greece. That makes close to half a dozen doctors who now offer this surgery with PRECICE at or below $50,000 U.S. Dollars. That bodes well for keeping prices more affordable when the STRYDE is eventually released.

Stadio, i need your advise one 2-3 qustions I have, may I PM you? thanks
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Re: STRYDE Cobalt Chrome (PRECICE v3.0)
« Reply #30 on: January 15, 2018, 11:02:07 AM »

You're welcome! The expectation is that being able to legitimately weight bear will make the physical therapy sessions smoother, soft tissue soreness and joint stiffness will be reduced, maintaining employment during the lengthening will reduce the overall cost by removing the loss of income factor.

In addition to all of the above expected improvements, the psychological benefit that comes with living a more normal life during lengthening can not be over stated. If you choose one of the top surgeons, who has a proven track record of your health's best interest in mind, then limb lengthening is almost entirely mental. Replace being mostly confined to a couch or bed with freedom of mobility, and you make an order of magnitude improvement to the process.

So the current nails which are advertised as full weight bearing are misleading?

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