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Re: Femoral Lengthening with Dr. Paley
« Reply #310 on: March 16, 2019, 02:24:34 PM »

How difficult is to change your clothes? Or take a shower? Or make number 2?
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« Reply #311 on: March 16, 2019, 04:20:14 PM »

Right now? Or after surgery?

Right now it’s the same as before. My surgery for nail removal is this Friday. Hopefully not too difficult. I’ll let you know on Saturday.
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« Reply #312 on: March 16, 2019, 04:27:52 PM »

I'm so looking forward to your newest post of nails removal. Waiting online everyday. Hahaha...
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« Reply #313 on: March 16, 2019, 06:11:18 PM »

I'm so looking forward to your newest post of nails removal. Waiting online everyday. Hahaha...

I appreciate that man. I am pretty excited to be honest..

A dumb reason I'm looking forward to this is that broken bones consume a LOT of calories. As long as I keep working out my upper body, I'll look really cut for the summer :D

All joking aside, it will be awesome to see what running/kickboxing/sports will be like after. I want to start playing sports as soon as I can (probably will be May).
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Re: Femoral Lengthening with Dr. Paley
« Reply #314 on: March 17, 2019, 09:23:05 AM »

Right now? Or after surgery?

Right now it’s the same as before. My surgery for nail removal is this Friday. Hopefully not too difficult. I’ll let you know on Saturday.
During the lengthening phase.

Congrats to your nail removal.
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Re: Femoral Lengthening with Dr. Paley
« Reply #315 on: March 17, 2019, 09:24:40 AM »

After nail removal, how long you need to stay away from lifting weights (squats) or practicing sports like soccer?
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Re: Femoral Lengthening with Dr. Paley
« Reply #316 on: March 17, 2019, 03:38:36 PM »

Puru, do you think you could handle a quadrilateral lengthening with stryde in both femurs and tibias (4cm each) or only one segment is hard enough?
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« Reply #317 on: March 17, 2019, 05:04:30 PM »

How difficult is to change your clothes? Or take a shower? Or make number 2?

During the lengthening phase.

Pretty difficult. I wasn’t able to put my socks on. They give you a stick with a grabber that helps you out clothes on.

Taking a shower is hard too. You need a special shower chair. Sitting down is uncomfortable because of the leg 🦵 inflexibility. Same with going to the bathroom. The painkillers make constipation really bad.

After nail removal, how long you need to stay away from lifting weights (squats) or practicing sports like soccer?

The doctor said 6 weeks.

Puru, do you think you could handle a quadrilateral lengthening with stryde in both femurs and tibias (4cm each) or only one segment is hard enough?


No. One segment is enough. Quad patients have nerves that are being stretched twice as much. Thy shut hurts.


Congrats to your nail removal.

Thanks!
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« Reply #318 on: March 17, 2019, 06:12:22 PM »

https://paleyinstitute.org/centers-of-excellence/stature-lengthening/costs-financial-considerations/
I'm thinking about doing two stages quadrilateral lengthening because I want to gain something like 15cm, but I'm afraid it's too much.
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« Reply #319 on: March 17, 2019, 06:44:21 PM »

https://paleyinstitute.org/centers-of-excellence/stature-lengthening/costs-financial-considerations/
I'm thinking about doing two stages quadrilateral lengthening because I want to gain something like 15cm, but I'm afraid it's too much.

It is too much in my opinion. You can get 14.5cm in 2 separate surgeries. How do you plan on paying for this?
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« Reply #320 on: March 17, 2019, 06:50:02 PM »

It is too much in my opinion. You can get 14.5cm in 2 separate surgeries. How do you plan on paying for this?
I'm not very young anymore, so I want something that will make difference fast.
I have the money to pay for Paley, but I was thinking doing with Giotikas (it would be 120k euros the 8 surgeries).
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« Reply #321 on: March 17, 2019, 07:05:17 PM »

Why do you need 8 surgeries? I don't know about Giotikas but there seem to be several Giotikas diaries on this forum.
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« Reply #322 on: March 17, 2019, 07:08:44 PM »

Why do you need 8 surgeries? I don't know about Giotikas but there seem to be several Giotikas diaries on this forum.
It's how its done with two stage quadrilateral. You break two legs (lets say tibias) and 3 weeks later you break the femurs. You lengthen for 4cm each and consolidate. One year after you break your legs again ang lengthen for more 4cm (16cm at total) It's 4 bilateral surgeries actually. If Paley offers this option, I assume it's ok.
There are two diaries of Giotikas here. Both are not complete yet and they are external tibia. I had a web consultation with Giotikas and I liked him.
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« Reply #323 on: March 17, 2019, 07:14:24 PM »

Oh I see. I think Paley offers that option too but its extremely expensive (I think in the $300k+ range). What is your starting height? This is a very extreme variation of LL.
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« Reply #324 on: March 17, 2019, 07:28:18 PM »

Oh I see. I think Paley offers that option too but its extremely expensive (I think in the $300k+ range). What is your starting height? This is a very extreme variation of LL.
It's US$280k.
I'm 1,65m.
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« Reply #325 on: March 20, 2019, 02:46:29 AM »

Update

I decided to be a little crazy and tried an intense 1 hour workout conditioning class. I was surprisingly able to keep up with the rest of the class (even with leg workouts and flexibility). I was even able to do front kicks better than some of the other participants (not as good as I was able to do before though. I used to do martial arts and had trained myself to kick pretty high).
Other than getting tired after running, I was in pretty good condition. This makes me think I've been 'playing it safe' for way too long and need to be more aggressive in my workouts. Once my 8 weeks pass, I want to get back into my groove.

I've been stretching aggressively for the past month. My flexibility is back to 100% for everything other than my quads. I'm able to bend my knees all the way (until my heel touches my butt), but I can't bend it by using leg muscles alone (I have to use my hands to pull it up). I'm going to be aggressive on that. Other than that, my flexibility seems to be back 100%. I can even do a proper 'heel sit' with both legs. This is a huge win for me as my quads were the last muscle group to remain inflexible.

https://goo.gl/images/xrSdjN

I think by summer (May) I should be pretty close to 100% (maybe not with leg strength). I'll go to the gym on Thursday (before nail removal surgery) and try to record my running stats to get a good benchmark for where I need to get to after the surgery.
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« Reply #326 on: March 20, 2019, 02:55:22 AM »

You are my inspiration ! Way to go Purush!
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« Reply #327 on: March 20, 2019, 03:08:37 AM »

You are my inspiration ! Way to go Purush!

Thanks man!!!
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« Reply #328 on: March 20, 2019, 06:14:47 PM »

All the best with the nail removal surgery!  I'm glad it worked well for you and I'm now considering this in the near future.
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« Reply #329 on: March 20, 2019, 06:28:34 PM »

All the best with the nail removal surgery!  I'm glad it worked well for you and I'm now considering this in the near future.

Thanks for your wishes! Good luck on your journey!

Update:

Yesterday’s workout was intense. My legs feel like rubber. I guess running up and down 20 stories wasn’t the best idea. On the bright side, I know what I need to do to recover my strength quickly:

Stop using elevators..
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« Reply #330 on: March 20, 2019, 06:51:46 PM »

Purushrottam,

I hope I'm at your condition once all of this settles. Impressive!

I know you have probably answered this questions many  times; so I'm sorry if you are repeating...

Am wondering at about what month post-op, were you able to:

Walk..
Jog..
Run..

Thank you again and in advance for any feedback.
« Last Edit: March 20, 2019, 07:12:00 PM by InFullStryde »
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« Reply #331 on: March 21, 2019, 03:39:25 AM »

Purushrottam,

I hope I'm at your condition once all of this settles. Impressive!

I know you have probably answered this questions many  times; so I'm sorry if you are repeating...

Am wondering at about what month post-op, were you able to:

Walk..
Jog..
Run..

Thank you again and in advance for any feedback.

Hey IFS,

I think you will be in a better conditioning because you will have faster consolidation and recovery.

This is the timeline of my progress compiled by OverrideYourGenetics:

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« Reply #332 on: March 21, 2019, 03:54:31 AM »

Hey IFS,

I think you will be in a better conditioning because you will have faster consolidation and recovery.

This is the timeline of my progress compiled by OverrideYourGenetics:


Excellent. Thank you
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« Reply #333 on: March 22, 2019, 04:23:17 PM »

Hey Paru - your diary is excellent and very enjoyable to read through.

I have experimented with elevator shoes and whilst at the beginning it was fine - I've started to feel the shame of wearing them.

My question to you is two things if you don't mind answering.

Could you give further detail on how dating is different from before to now - perhaps you have a comparable example in your head that you can share from recent times.

Secondly - do you agree that sometimes the height difference doesn't feel like a big deal when you are by yourself i.e. getting changed? For example, when I put my shoes on today I felt like - really am I going to spend all this money just to be this much taller - but then when I was around other people the difference was felt properly.

Look forward to hearing from you.
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« Reply #334 on: March 22, 2019, 11:59:44 PM »

SimonFuller,

I’ll get back to you

Update:

I had my nails removed today. I’ll give a more detailed update when I’m rested.

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« Reply #335 on: Today at 03:02:54 AM »

Update: Nail Removal March 22 2019:

I finally got the Precice nail removed. The surgery was pretty straight forward. I arrived there at 8:30 to be processed (paper work, consent forms, etc). They thoroughly check that you are you and what the procedure is (so that you don't get the wrong operation.. ). While I was waiting for my operation room to be prepped, I was given IV.

The experience was completely different because I knew I wouldn't be crippled for the next 4 months. I was pretty calm last time, but still a little worried about how my life was permanently going to change. Now I was just waiting there bored, like I was at the DMV.

I also literally walked into the operating theater (last time my entire bed was rolled into it, and I was sedated before I was moved there). Consequently I met the entire team that would be operating on me. My first thought was DAMN a lot of people are involved in this surgery. TV shows make it look like its just 1 or 2 surgeons. In reality it was several surgeons, an anesthesiologist, therapists, and nurses (7-8 people total). No wonder these things are expensive if done carefully and thoroughly.

I was out of the OR in 2 hours. When I woke up, there was a little bit of pain at the hip sites (and none at the femur screw sites). I would rate it at 1-2 out of 10. Barely noticeable. Its like when you are playing tag as a kid, trip and scrape your hip. That level. I think that could be because the anesthesia was still in effect.

I still had to wait there for 4 more hours because they wanted the anesthesia to completely wear out (so that I don't accidentally fall). I was given an extra dose of anesthetic because my operation had a risk of going longer than the alotted time. So I was just laying there in bed for 4 hours. As the anesthesia was wearing off, I did notice some pain at the nail sites. The best comparison would be when you work out a muscle really hard after a long time of not working out. The sore muscle feels painful to move for the next few days. Thats what I'd compare it to. Nothing to bad.

After 4 hours I was wheeled to the Uber (even though I had clearance to walk). My walking was a bit wobbly when I got out of that bed so there was a risk of me falling. So the nurse gave me crutches. Now that I am home, my walking balance is fine. I am walking like a duck now. My left leg doesn't hurt at all. My right leg is still painful when I bend it (or walk with it). I've been told that the surgical site pain mostly goes away in 3-4 days.

EDIT: I forgot to mention:
I've been prescribed pain killers but I haven't taken any (other than Tylenol). I haven't really felt the need for it yet (and I don't think I will). I do have medication to reduce the surgical swelling though. (My thighs are really swollen.. just like last time).
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« Reply #336 on: Today at 03:20:13 AM »

Hey Paru - your diary is excellent and very enjoyable to read through.

I'm happy to hear that!

I have experimented with elevator shoes and whilst at the beginning it was fine - I've started to feel the shame of wearing them.

I've tried the same. They were very uncomfortable and didn't seem natural to me. Honestly think the long term effects of wearing them are probably worse than actually getting CLL. They just didn't look normal on me. I actually threw them away (they were pricey as hell too)


Could you give further detail on how dating is different from before to now - perhaps you have a comparable example in your head that you can share from recent times.


Well for once thing, I've literally been asked out by girls now. That almost never happened to me. I've literally never been in a situation where I had to politely reject someone. I get 'ghosted' a lot less. The women I meet actually make an effort to hang out/meet again. I used to think it was normal to always 'try hard' and that the onus was on the dude to make the effort. In reality, I just wasn't seen as that attractive so I was never priority number 1 these women. Now its a bit different. Its also fairly easy for me to hook up at clubs now. I never 'initiate' it (I'm a lot more buff now though, sort of on the chubby side though: 17% body fat... not sure how accurate). All those rejections sort of instilled a personality where I don't pursue women unless they clearly indicate that they are interested in me. I'm slowly trying to change that.


Secondly - do you agree that sometimes the height difference doesn't feel like a big deal when you are by yourself i.e. getting changed? For example, when I put my shoes on today I felt like - really am I going to spend all this money just to be this much taller - but then when I was around other people the difference was felt properly.
 

I dont know the answer to this. It mostly felt like a big deal when I would go clubbing or to a bar or a social event. Being short never bothered me when I was hanging out with my taller friends. Only when hearing about how easy it was for them to date. Height is definitely a social thing. Whether or not you are tall or short depends on the people around you. There was a 5'10" Dutch guy who got LL. He was probably the taller patient who got cosmetic LL with Paley.


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